CREATION was only for israelites not for all human races, EVOLUTION still holds its truth !

[Ishmael]

Which tree couldn't Adam and Eve eat from?

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So we must ask, which tree couldn't Adam and Eve eat from? Because both trees should have been banned from consumption! Not just the tree of good and evil.

UTATA KATIKA KORAN: ADAM ALIUMBWAJE?

Binadamu aliumbwa kutoka nini? Tone la Damu? Maji? Udongo? Vumbi?

Jamani huu nao ni Msiba Mkubwa katika taifa la Allah. Hivi, Allah alikuwa msanii au alikuwa nani/ Maana anapenda sana kuchanganya madawa. Leo ALLAH AMELETA UTATA Katika uumbaji wa Binadamu. Sasa tuanze kwa kusoma kitabu chake kilicho shushwa na Jibril msaidi wake.

Je, Adam aliumbwa kwa tone la Damu?
Quran 96 1-2
1. Soma kwa jina la Mola wako Mlezi aliye umba, ***2. Amemuumba binaadamu kwa tone la damu, ***

Allah anasema kuwa, Binadamu aliumbwa kwa tone la damu. Endela kupa ilmu ya Koran.

Je, Adam aliumbwa kutokana na Maji?
Quran 25:54. Naye ndiye aliye muumba mwanaadamu kutokana na maji, akamjaalia kuwa na nasaba na ushemeji. Na Mola wako Mlezi ni Muweza. ***

Allah anachanganya madawa. Sasa anaumba Mwanadamu kupitia MAJI. Tuendelee kusoma usanii wa Allah.

Je, Binadamu aliumbwa kutoka kwa Udongo?
Quran 15:26. Na tulimuumba mtu kwa udongo unao toa sauti, unao tokana na matope yaliyo tiwa sura. ***

Allah amebadilika tena, sasa anaumba Mwanadamu kupitia Udongo. Jamani huu si Msiba?

Endelea kupata Elimu.

Je, Binadamu aliumbwa kutoka VUMBI?
Quran 30:20. Na katika Ishara zake ni kuwa kakuumbeni kutoka Vumbi. Kisha mmekuwa watu mlio tawanyika kote kote. ***

Ndugu zanguni, hivi kweli Koran ilishushwa kutoka kwa Mungu? Mbona kuna UATAT kila sehemu?

Binadamu aliumbwa kutoka nini? Tone la Damu? Maji? Udongo? Vumbi?

Kweli Allah anafahamu yote, ingawa hajui alimuumbaje Adam.

Katika Huduma yake

Max Shimba Ministries Org.

 

[2013]

Which tree couldn't Adam and Eve eat from?

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So we now see what the tree of life is. The tree of life is a tree that if you eat from it, you will live forever! Can you believe that? What makes this more interesting is that Adam was free to eat from it! Remember earlier in Genesis we read:

Genesis


So note EVERY SINGLE TREE except the tree of good and evil is lawful to eat from, therefore this means Adam was allowed to go and eat from a tree that would have caused him to live forever! We only have to guess at what would have happened if Adam ate from that tree. We must always ask why would God allow Adam to eat from such a tree?

The problems don't end there, because notice at the ending of Genesis 3:


Notice the major problem. God now realizes the tree of life is something dangerous for Adam to eat from, and God realizes it is a huge risk to allow Adam to eat from the tree, so he goes to such lengths as placing a flaming sword to guard the tree of life to make sure that no one eats from the tree of life!

So note, it took a sin from Adam to make God realize this major problem! If Adam had not committed the sin of eating from the tree of good and evil, God would have never guarded the tree of life from Adam and other people, so it had to take a sin from Adam to make God realize of what a major mistake and problem he had by placing such a tree for Adam to be allowed to eat from!
why did not God know the problems of placing such a tree in the midst of Eden, and allowing Adam to eat from it? Why did God not prohibit both the tree of life and the tree of good and evil? Why did it take a sin from Adam to realize the problem of having such a tree in the midst of Eden and free to eat from? Didn't God already know? It seems he did not, and he needed Adam to sin for him to realize the risk of placing a tree of life free to eat from!
So God had to have a sin make him realize the problem of putting a tree of life in the garden of Eden free to eat from, and we ask why? Isn't God all knowing? Why didn't God protect the tree of life with a flaming sword from the beginning before Adam and Eve sinned? Secondly, why would God place such a tree in Eden? Why would God place a tree that if you ate from it, would make you live forever, and you were allowed to eat from it!

So we must ask, which tree couldn't Adam and Eve eat from? Because both trees should have been banned from consumption! Not just the tree of good and evil.

i can imagine, from what you are asking for. According to your faith you are not free to question anything regarding ALLAH and his messenger including the holy Koran lest you can loose faith.You have only one way, Submission. that's it!!!. Besides it is so easy for you to question the Almighty God who worshiped by Christians in order to win their souls!
anyway. You will be smart enough if you know exactly who your worshiping.


Let me give the answer according to my understanding:
first of all God never allows temptation which is far greater than your(human) ability to encounter.

information is knowledge
Based on that, God gave Adam and Eve the knowledge of not to eat that fruit of good and evil so that they can not die. Adam and Eve were knowledgeable enough with God orders. However they ignored the God knowledge and listened to the serpent knowledge which has ultimately fell into sin.


The serpent told Eve on the importance of the fruit i.e about becoming knowledgeable of good and evil and be like God. however the serpent hide part of information that, ..from eating that fruits, they will expose themselves at risk of dying.

it is something contrary to God which has already warned them.

They listened to the serpent, simply because they wished to become like God in knowing good and evil, which is something in particular was right. But they missed one piece of important information ..they will also die.
Overwhelmed by desire of being like God has led them ignored what God said and listened to serpent.

Once Adam and Eve seized knowledge, they can now embark in more complex matters
NB: (Here is place most Satanic religions put a blame God that he want Human to be like savage, but Satan helped them(human) to gain knowledge.)

Adam and Eve never repented after all that happened, especially at the most important moment where they had acquired knowledge of understanding both good and evil and became completely aware that Satan has deceived them.
In protesting Adam blamed God for gave him a woman(as if without a woman he may not fell into sin) and the woman blame serpent as a deceiver, it sound like no one want to apologize for the wrong act. Fair enough, they still become sinners even if they might have a chance to eat the tree of life and live forever.
So the consequence of their action is death as for all sinners should be.
God decided to take them away from the Eden so that they can decide on their fate. ''God who died''

two thing:
1. Adam and Eve did not repent
2. Adam accused God for a woman( Eve)
3. Eve accused Serpent

may be God would change his mind and allow them to eat a tree of life so that they can live forever knowledgeable. if they all would admit that the disobeyed God rules and made an apology. that's why i think God make decision accordingly.

penye Red: why serpent didn't let them eat the tree of life instead?

 

[Gavana]

i can imagine, from what you are asking for. According to your faith you are not free to question anything regarding allah and his messenger including the holy koran lest you can loose faith.you have only one way, submission. That's it!!!. Besides it is so easy for you to question the almighty god who worshiped by christians in order to win their souls!
Anyway. You will be smart enough if you know exactly who your worshiping.


let me give the answer according to my understanding:
first of all god never allows temptation which is far greater than your(human) ability to encounter.

information is knowledge
based on that, god gave adam and eve the knowledge of not to eat that fruit of good and evil so that they can not die. Adam and eve were knowledgeable enough with god orders. However they ignored the god knowledge and listened to the serpent knowledge which has ultimately fell into sin.


The serpent told eve on the importance of the fruit i.e about becoming knowledgeable of good and evil and be like god. However the serpent hide part of information that, ..from eating that fruits, they will expose themselves at risk of dying.

it is something contrary to god which has already warned them.

They listened to the serpent, simply because they wished to become like god in knowing good and evil, which is something in particular was right. But they missed one piece of important information ..they will also die.
Overwhelmed by desire of being like god has led them ignored what god said and listened to serpent.

Once adam and eve seized knowledge, they can now embark in more complex matters
nb: (here is place most satanic religions put a blame god that he want human to be like savage, but satan helped them(human) to gain knowledge.)

adam and eve never repented after all that happened, especially at the most important moment where they had acquired knowledge of understanding both good and evil and became completely aware that satan has deceived them.
In protesting adam blamed god for gave him a woman(as if without a woman he may not fell into sin) and the woman blame serpent as a deceiver, it sound like no one want to apologize for the wrong act. Fair enough, they still become sinners even if they might have a chance to eat the tree of life and live forever.
So the consequence of their action is death as for all sinners should be.
God decided to take them away from the eden so that they can decide on their fate. ''god who died''

two thing:
1. Adam and eve did not repent
2. Adam accused god for a woman( eve)
3. Eve accused serpent

may be god would change his mind and allow them to eat a tree of life so that they can live forever knowledgeable. If they all would admit that the disobeyed god rules and made an apology. That's why i think god make decision accordingly.

Penye red: Why serpent didn't let them eat the tree of life instead?

no references no proofs , please give us references from the bible or any book

 

[Ishmael]

no references no proofs , please give us references from the bible or any book

UTATA MKUMBWA NDANI YA KORAN
Nini kitaingia PEPONI: Roho/Nafsi au Mwili au zote mbili?

Somo letu la leo ni la swali kwa Allah ambaye ameshindwa kujieleza, kuwa ni kipi kinaingia Peponi kati ya Roho/Nafsi au Mwili?

Koran inadai kuwa, baada ya ufufuo, ni mwili (baada ya kuungana na roho?) Ambayo inaingia peponi. Haya madai yamewekewa mkazo katika Koran. Angalia mistari ifuatayo 13:05, 17:98-99, 20:55, 34:7, 75:3-4.

Hata hivyo mistari ya 27-30 kwenye Sura 89 ipinga aya zilizo pita kwa kusema kuwa ni nafsi (Nafs) tu ambayo inaingia Peponi!

Quran 17:99. Kwani hawakuona ya kwamba Mwenyezi Mungu aliye umba mbingu na ardhi ni Mwenye kuweza kuumba mfano wao? Na Yeye amewawekea muda usio na shaka yoyote. Lakini madhaalimu hawataki ila ukafiri.

Quran 75:3. Anadhani mtu kuwa Sisi hatutaikusanya mifupa yake? 4. Kwani! Sisi tunaweza hata kuziweka sawa sawa ncha za vidole vyake!

Aya hizo hapo juu, zinadai kuwa Nafsi na Mwili vitaungana na kuingia Peponi, hayo ni maneno ya Allah kama alivyo yashusha kupitia Quran yake. Lakini Allah huyohuyo anabadilika na kusema kuwa Nafsi ndio itaingia Peponi. Hebu soma aya zifuatazo.


Quran 89 27. Ewe nafsi iliyo tua! 28. Rejea kwa Mola wako Mlezi umeridhika, na umemridhisha.

Katika aya hapo juu, Allah anaiamuru Nafsi irejee kwake. Sasa ni ipi kati ya Nafsi na Mwili vitaingia Peponi? Utata huu ni Msiba Mkubwa kwa Allah ambaye hafamu nini kati ya Nafsi na Mwili vitaingia Peponi.

Quran 31:28. Hakukuwa kuumbwa kwenu, wala kufufuliwa kwenu ila ni kama nafsi moja tu. Hakika Mwenyezi Mungu ni Mwenye kusikia Mwenye kuona.

Allah anaendelea kusema kuwa ni Nafsi ndio itaingia Peponi. Aya hizi zinapingana na maneno yake ya kwanza kuwa ni Nafsi pamoja na Mwili vinaingia Peponi. Hivi Allah ni kweli aliumba Binadamu? Mbona hafahamu nini kati ya Nafsi na Mwili itaingia Peponi?

Katika Uislamu, neema ya peponi haikamiliki bila raha ya pamoja ya Mwili na akili, maana Allah katoa ahadi ya wake 72 kwa wale wote watakao ingia Peponi. Vinginevyo, mtu atawezaje kunywa Zanzabil (76:17), na kuifurahia hicho kinywaji (76:13), kufurahia wanawali (55:56) na kunywa asali na maziwa (47:16-17) bila ya kuwa na Mwili?
Yousuf Ali (Nakala 6128 kwa aya 89:27-30) pia anasema kwamba ni roho ambayo inaingia mbinguni, na si mwili ambao utaharibika (Maoni yake ni kupingana na aya 75:3-4 zinavyo sema!). Soma aya 31:28 pia. Inasema kuundwa kwa mtu au ufufuo ni katika nafsi.

Ndugu wasomaji, Allah anaendelea kutoa utata katika uumbaji wake. Allah kwa mara nyingine tena ameshindwa kuufahamisha umma wake kuwa, ni nini kati ya Nafsir na Mwili vitaingia Peponi.

Koran si kitabu cha Mungu bali ni maneno ya Muham-mad ambayo alindika ili kukuza maono yake ya kisiasa. Kama Allah ni mungu, basi ifahamike leo kuwa Allah si Mungu aliye umba Mbingu na Nchi. Si Mungu aliye muumba Adamu na Hawa, bali ni Mpinga Mungu.

Katika huduma Yake.

Max Shimba

Copyright © Max Shimba Ministries 2013

 

[crabat]

UTATA KATIKA KORAN: ADAM ALIUMBWAJE?

Binadamu aliumbwa kutoka nini? Tone la Damu? Maji? Udongo? Vumbi?

Jamani huu nao ni Msiba Mkubwa katika taifa la Allah. Hivi, Allah alikuwa msanii au alikuwa nani/ Maana anapenda sana kuchanganya madawa. Leo ALLAH AMELETA UTATA Katika uumbaji wa Binadamu. Sasa tuanze kwa kusoma kitabu chake kilicho shushwa na Jibril msaidi wake.

Je, Adam aliumbwa kwa tone la Damu?
Quran 96 1-2
1. Soma kwa jina la Mola wako Mlezi aliye umba, ***2. Amemuumba binaadamu kwa tone la damu, ***

Allah anasema kuwa, Binadamu aliumbwa kwa tone la damu. Endela kupa ilmu ya Koran.

Je, Adam aliumbwa kutokana na Maji?
Quran 25:54. Naye ndiye aliye muumba mwanaadamu kutokana na maji, akamjaalia kuwa na nasaba na ushemeji. Na Mola wako Mlezi ni Muweza. ***

Allah anachanganya madawa. Sasa anaumba Mwanadamu kupitia MAJI. Tuendelee kusoma usanii wa Allah.

Je, Binadamu aliumbwa kutoka kwa Udongo?
Quran 15:26. Na tulimuumba mtu kwa udongo unao toa sauti, unao tokana na matope yaliyo tiwa sura. ***

Allah amebadilika tena, sasa anaumba Mwanadamu kupitia Udongo. Jamani huu si Msiba?

Endelea kupata Elimu.

Je, Binadamu aliumbwa kutoka VUMBI?
Quran 30:20. Na katika Ishara zake ni kuwa kakuumbeni kutoka Vumbi. Kisha mmekuwa watu mlio tawanyika kote kote. ***

Ndugu zanguni, hivi kweli Koran ilishushwa kutoka kwa Mungu? Mbona kuna UATAT kila sehemu?

Binadamu aliumbwa kutoka nini? Tone la Damu? Maji? Udongo? Vumbi?

Kweli Allah anafahamu yote, ingawa hajui alimuumbaje Adam.

Katika Huduma yake

Max Shimba Ministries Org.

Unajifurahisha kupotosha lakini ukweli upo wazi kuhusu uumbaji ndani ya Quran.
Kila kitu kuumbwa binaadam na ulimwengu uppo na wana science wame prove naddharia ya elimu ya uumbaji imeyajwa ndani ya Quran kabla ya uvumbuzi wa sasa.
Ni wakristo wenzako ndio walio prove miujiza hii ya QURAN.
wewe unajifurahisha tu .
Sasa yule mtoto wa mungu wenu na babake sijui ndio yupi na roho takatifu sijuo ndio nani walidhindwa hata kmlinda mtoto wao dhidi ya majambazi mpaka wakamtundika kama mshikaki wa muchacho.hakua uwezo huo mdogo tu ndio hakika alikua dhaifu

 

[Ishmael]

Unajifurahisha kupotosha lakini ukweli upo wazi kuhusu uumbaji ndani ya Quran.
Kila kitu kuumbwa binaadam na ulimwengu uppo na wana science wame prove naddharia ya elimu ya uumbaji imeyajwa ndani ya Quran kabla ya uvumbuzi wa sasa.
Ni wakristo wenzako ndio walio prove miujiza hii ya QURAN.
wewe unajifurahisha tu .
Sasa yule mtoto wa mungu wenu na babake sijui ndio yupi na roho takatifu sijuo ndio nani walidhindwa hata kmlinda mtoto wao dhidi ya majambazi mpaka wakamtundika kama mshikaki wa muchacho.hakua uwezo huo mdogo tu ndio hakika alikua dhaifu

Naona unapinga na Koran ya Jibril. Hakika kuna Msiba MKUBWA SANA Nyumbani kwa Allah.

 

[2013]

Unajifurahisha kupotosha lakini ukweli upo wazi kuhusu uumbaji ndani ya Quran.
Kila kitu kuumbwa binaadam na ulimwengu uppo na wana science wame prove naddharia ya elimu ya uumbaji imeyajwa ndani ya Quran kabla ya uvumbuzi wa sasa.

Lakini gavana , we ni gavana gani unaongea huna hata makabrasha ya data. na ndiye wakwanza kuomba upewe reference. kuongea maneno mazuri mazuri, every one can do, sasa shusha yaliyoshushwa na uyaweke vizuri.

mkuu kuran inashirika moja na majini ni wazi kuamini kuwa wanasayansi wanaamini katika ancient alliens wanawapa binadamu knowlegde, sasa ikiwa majini wakitoa maelezo sawa na wanasayansi utashangaa vipi?

unaposema wakristo unamaanisha vatican kuna wanasayansi wa anga. kama wapo kinachowafanya wao watetee kuran wakati ni wakristo kimetoka wapi na walijua lini kuisoma kuran yako isiyoeleweka ambayo ukianza tu unachoka kuendelea.? anyway mi ningeomba uende kule kwa kwanza kwenye uumbaji wa binadamu kwa pande la damu sijui mara udongo, utajua, tujuze. haya mengine si muhimu ukiyajibu, manake yakikushinda haya hata yale muhimu utagoma kujibu pia. na mimi sitaki mapovu leo.

 

[2013]

no references no proofs , please give us references from the bible or any book

Gavana sasa hapa unanichekesha, kwani ulipouliza swali hukuweka reference? nimeshajua huelewi bibilia unachofanya ni ku-bash tu, tena inawezekana unasosi yako inayokashifu bibilia ndipo unaamini wanasema vitu vya kweli. mbona reference zipo kwako. rejea uzi wako utajua yafuatayo.
genesis2:[SUP]16 [/SUP]And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
hapa wote walijua katazo la mungu.

genesis3: [SUP]11 [/SUP]And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? [SUP]12 [/SUP]And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat. [SUP]
[/SUP][SUP]13 [/SUP]And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
hapa adam anamlaumu mungu, eva anamlaumu nyoka, hakuna aliyeomba msamaha kati yao.Japo wanajua walikosa.

. Pengine mungu alipoona hawaombi msamaha na wanamtupia lawama, akaamua awaondoe moja kwa moja wasile mti wa uzima wakaishi, kwani hawakutubu.
soma hapa
Genesis: [SUP]22 [/SUP]And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: [SUP]23 [/SUP]Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

ushauri wangu kwako jitahidi kuandikauzi kwa ufupi ili kila mtu asome na wewe mwenyewe uelewe, usimchoshe mtu kwa maneno kumbe hata wewe hukuelewa swali.

 

[2013]

UTATA KATIKA KORAN: ADAM ALIUMBWAJE?

Binadamu aliumbwa kutoka nini? Tone la Damu? Maji? Udongo? Vumbi?

Jamani huu nao ni Msiba Mkubwa katika taifa la Allah. Hivi, Allah alikuwa msanii au alikuwa nani/ Maana anapenda sana kuchanganya madawa. Leo ALLAH AMELETA UTATA Katika uumbaji wa Binadamu. Sasa tuanze kwa kusoma kitabu chake kilicho shushwa na Jibril msaidi wake.

Je, Adam aliumbwa kwa tone la Damu?
Quran 96 1-2
1. Soma kwa jina la Mola wako Mlezi aliye umba, ***2. Amemuumba binaadamu kwa tone la damu, ***

Allah anasema kuwa, Binadamu aliumbwa kwa tone la damu. Endela kupa ilmu ya Koran.

Je, Adam aliumbwa kutokana na Maji?
Quran 25:54. Naye ndiye aliye muumba mwanaadamu kutokana na maji, akamjaalia kuwa na nasaba na ushemeji. Na Mola wako Mlezi ni Muweza. ***

Allah anachanganya madawa. Sasa anaumba Mwanadamu kupitia MAJI. Tuendelee kusoma usanii wa Allah.

Je, Binadamu aliumbwa kutoka kwa Udongo?
Quran 15:26. Na tulimuumba mtu kwa udongo unao toa sauti, unao tokana na matope yaliyo tiwa sura. ***

Allah amebadilika tena, sasa anaumba Mwanadamu kupitia Udongo. Jamani huu si Msiba?

Endelea kupata Elimu.

Je, Binadamu aliumbwa kutoka VUMBI?
Quran 30:20. Na katika Ishara zake ni kuwa kakuumbeni kutoka Vumbi. Kisha mmekuwa watu mlio tawanyika kote kote. ***

Ndugu zanguni, hivi kweli Koran ilishushwa kutoka kwa Mungu? Mbona kuna UATAT kila sehemu?

Binadamu aliumbwa kutoka nini? Tone la Damu? Maji? Udongo? Vumbi?

Kweli Allah anafahamu yote, ingawa hajui alimuumbaje Adam.

Katika Huduma yake

Max Shimba Ministries Org.

nilikuwa sijui haya mavitu ai see!!!

 

[2013]

Naona unapinga na Koran ya Jibril. Hakika kuna Msiba MKUBWA SANA Nyumbani kwa Allah.

swadakta, tupia data. tuko pamoja. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!. Ila hapo penye sumu ni kiashiria mesenja alikuaje nyumbni kwa meneja. inaonekana kulikuwa na chaos sana.kumbe hatma ya mesenja ilikuwa hivi. tutasemaje kama haya sio malipo yake hapa duniani kwa matendo yake?!! gosh
gavana atatufafanulia zaidi

 

[Gavana]

utata katika koran: Adam aliumbwaje?

binadamu aliumbwa kutoka nini? Tone la damu? Maji? Udongo? Vumbi?

Jamani huu nao ni msiba mkubwa katika taifa la allah. Hivi, allah alikuwa msanii au alikuwa nani/ maana anapenda sana kuchanganya madawa. Leo allah ameleta utata katika uumbaji wa binadamu. Sasa tuanze kwa kusoma kitabu chake kilicho shushwa na jibril msaidi wake.

je, adam aliumbwa kwa tone la damu?
quran 96 1-2
1. Soma kwa jina la mola wako mlezi aliye umba, ***2. Amemuumba binaadamu kwa tone la damu, ***

allah anasema kuwa, binadamu aliumbwa kwa tone la damu. Endela kupa ilmu ya koran.

je, adam aliumbwa kutokana na maji?
quran 25:54. Naye ndiye aliye muumba mwanaadamu kutokana na maji, akamjaalia kuwa na nasaba na ushemeji. Na mola wako mlezi ni muweza. ***

allah anachanganya madawa. Sasa anaumba mwanadamu kupitia maji. Tuendelee kusoma usanii wa allah.

je, binadamu aliumbwa kutoka kwa udongo?
quran 15:26. Na tulimuumba mtu kwa udongo unao toa sauti, unao tokana na matope yaliyo tiwa sura. ***

allah amebadilika tena, sasa anaumba mwanadamu kupitia udongo. Jamani huu si msiba?

Endelea kupata elimu.

je, binadamu aliumbwa kutoka vumbi?
quran 30:20. Na katika ishara zake ni kuwa kakuumbeni kutoka vumbi. Kisha mmekuwa watu mlio tawanyika kote kote. ***

ndugu zanguni, hivi kweli koran ilishushwa kutoka kwa mungu? Mbona kuna uatat kila sehemu?

Binadamu aliumbwa kutoka nini? Tone la damu? Maji? Udongo? Vumbi?

Kweli allah anafahamu yote, ingawa hajui alimuumbaje adam.

Katika huduma yake

max shimba ministries org.

hizo aya umezitoa kwenye quran iliyotengenezwa na kanisa lako ????

 

[Gavana]

swadakta, tupia data. tuko pamoja. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!. Ila hapo penye sumu ni kiashiria mesenja alikuaje nyumbni kwa meneja. inaonekana kulikuwa na chaos sana.kumbe hatma ya mesenja ilikuwa hivi. tutasemaje kama haya sio malipo yake hapa duniani kwa matendo yake?!! gosh
gavana atatufafanulia zaidi

Let us first show the story as mentioned in the Bible:

[SUP]8 [/SUP]And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

[SUP]10 [/SUP]And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.

[SUP]11 [/SUP]The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;

[SUP]12[/SUP] And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.

[SUP]13 [/SUP]And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.

[SUP]14 [/SUP]And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

[SUP]15 [/SUP]And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

[SUP]16 [/SUP]And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: [SUP]17 [/SUP]But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

[SUP]18 [/SUP]And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. [SUP]19 [/SUP]And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

[SUP]20 [/SUP]And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

[SUP]21 [/SUP]And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof

[SUP]22 [/SUP]And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

[SUP]23 [/SUP]And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

[SUP]24 [/SUP]Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. [SUP]25 [/SUP]And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.


[SUP]

1 [/SUP]Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

[SUP]2 [/SUP]And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:

[SUP]3 [/SUP]But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

[SUP]5 [/SUP]For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

[SUP]6 [/SUP]And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

[SUP]8 [/SUP]And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

[SUP]10 [/SUP]And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

[SUP]11 [/SUP]And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

[SUP]12 [/SUP]And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

[SUP]13 [/SUP]And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

[SUP]14 [/SUP]And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

[SUP]15 [/SUP]And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

[SUP]16 [/SUP]Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

[SUP]17 [/SUP]And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

[SUP]18 [/SUP]Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

[SUP]19 [/SUP]In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

[SUP]20 [/SUP]And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

[SUP]21 [/SUP]Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

[SUP]22 [/SUP]And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

[SUP]23 [/SUP]Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

[SUP]24 [/SUP]So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life. (Genesis 2: 1-25, 3:1-23)



This is how the Bible mentions Adam and Eve's downfall. However so, there are several problems with this story. Let us discuss each one one by one.


1- All blame is laid upon Eve


As one reads the story, one will not fail to notice that the downfall was all due to Eve being tempted by the serpent. We see that the serpent manages to fool Eve, which in turn results in Eve fooling Adam, all blame squarely going back to Eve, since it was her who fell at the serpents temptation, and it was her who tempted Adam.


Also note, when God finds out about this sin, Adam blames Eve saying it was her fault, that she made him eat the tree. Even later on God tells Adam BECAUSE YOU HAVE LISTENED TO YOUR WIFE, this completely puts the blame on Eve for their sins.



So this is the first problem with the story, all the blame goes on Eve, Adam seems to just be a victim of Eve!




2- God's bad advice



Another problem we see from the story is that God doesn't really give Adam and Eve very good advice, in fact the advice he gives them makes things worst, note what he tells them:


[SUP]16 [/SUP]And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: [SUP]17 [/SUP]But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.


Note, all God tells Adam is to not eat from the tree, he is free to roam the Garden as much as wants, even pass along this forbidden tree, yet the only advice he is given is to not eat from it, better advice would have been to not just eat from the tree, but to not APPROACH it either to eliminate all temptations since humans are too weak by nature even if they know the Truth; something God fails to do here.



3- God is portrayed as a weak person



One big problem with the story in the Bible is that it shows God to be weak, and incapable of looking after his own people, who are just 2 human beings being Adam and Eve!


[SUP]8 [/SUP]And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

[SUP]10 [/SUP]And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.



This incident here portrays God as being very weak, note he has to call out for Adam to find him, what kind of message does this send to God's creation? Not a very good message if you ask me.

 

[Gavana]

Let us now turn our attention to the Noble Quran’s version of how things really happened, and without a doubt, the Quran gets the story straight:

From Surah Al-Araf:

"O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden, and enjoy (its good things) as ye wish: but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression." Then began Satan to whisper suggestions to them, bringing openly before their minds all their shame that was hidden from them (before): he said: "Your Lord only forbade you this tree, lest ye should become angels or such beings as live for ever." And he swore to them both, that he was their sincere adviser. So by deceit he brought about their fall: when they tasted of the tree, their shame became manifest to them, and they began to sew together the leaves of the garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them: "Did I not forbid you that tree, and tell you that Satan was an avowed enemy unto you?" They said: "Our Lord! We have wronged our own souls: If thou forgive us not and bestow not upon us Thy Mercy, we shall certainly be lost." (Allah) said: "Get ye down. With enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling-place and your means of livelihood,- for a time." (7:19-24)

A mere simple 6 verses from the Noble Quran completely supersedes the Biblical version of the same story which took two chapters to cover! This alone shows how superior the Quran is to the Bible, the Quran does not to write 2 or 10 chapters on one incident, but can discuss a major story in a couple of verses and can completely put the former version to shame.




As we see, the Quranic version of Adam and Eve’s downfall completely corrects the Biblical mistakes to the true events of what really happened. Let us see how the Quran correctly corrects the Bible and getting the story right:





1- Allah’s better advice



We see in the Noble Quran that Allah gives Adam and Eve the correct and better advice, which is to not APPROACH the tree. This is far better than simply allowing Adam and Eve to roam around freely with the tree in their midst with the simply advice of not eating from the tree. The better advice is to tell someone to avoid something bad, and not approach it, exactly as the Quran tells us.



2- BOTH Adam and Eve are EQUALLY guilty



Unlike the Bible where all the blame is mainly put on Eve, here we see that both Adam and Eve were deceived, and that they both together ate from the tree, not Eve alone being deceived and then deceiving Adam to join in her sin. No, satan went to them both and deceived them both into eating from the tree, and they were both equally guilty.




3- God is not portrayed as being weak



In the Quranic account we don’t see Allah being weak, roaming around trying to find a hiding Adam like a game of hide and seek. Allah is immidietly aware of both Adam and Eve’s sin as they commit it:



So by deceit he brought about their fall: when they tasted of the tree, their shame became manifest to them, and they began to sew together the leaves of the garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them: "Did I not forbid you that tree, and tell you that Satan was an avowed enemy unto you?"



Notice the second they eat from the tree, and realize that they are naked and try to clothe themselves, God immediately calls out telling them of their sin, unlike the Bible where he is walking around looking around trying to find Adam!

CONCLUSION​

We have clearly seen that the Quran’s version is vastly superior to the Bible’s wrong version of how things really happened, no one can deny this unless they are simply biased, but that is their choice, the facts speak for themselves.

What I also still find amazing is that it took the Quran a mere 6 verses to discuss such a major story unlike the Bible.

We must thank Allah for sending down the Quran, for it has opened our eyes and showed us how things really did happen, correcting the Bible’s errors and bad mis-information. Praise Allah! AMEEN!

 

[nhuguti]

Tatizo lipo jombaa endelea kupotosha

 

[Gavana]

Lakini gavana , we ni gavana gani unaongea huna hata makabrasha ya data. na ndiye wakwanza kuomba upewe reference. kuongea maneno mazuri mazuri, every one can do, sasa shusha yaliyoshushwa na uyaweke vizuri.

mkuu kuran inashirika moja na majini ni wazi kuamini kuwa wanasayansi wanaamini katika ancient alliens wanawapa binadamu knowlegde, sasa ikiwa majini wakitoa maelezo sawa na wanasayansi utashangaa vipi?

unaposema wakristo unamaanisha vatican kuna wanasayansi wa anga. kama wapo kinachowafanya wao watetee kuran wakati ni wakristo kimetoka wapi na walijua lini kuisoma kuran yako isiyoeleweka ambayo ukianza tu unachoka kuendelea.? anyway mi ningeomba uende kule kwa kwanza kwenye uumbaji wa binadamu kwa pande la damu sijui mara udongo, utajua, tujuze. haya mengine si muhimu ukiyajibu, manake yakikushinda haya hata yale muhimu utagoma kujibu pia. na mimi sitaki mapovu leo.

Let us now turn our attention to the Noble Quran's version of how things really happened, and without a doubt, the Quran gets the story straight:


From Surah Al-Araf:

"O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden, and enjoy (its good things) as ye wish: but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression." Then began Satan to whisper suggestions to them, bringing openly before their minds all their shame that was hidden from them (before): he said: "Your Lord only forbade you this tree, lest ye should become angels or such beings as live for ever." And he swore to them both, that he was their sincere adviser. So by deceit he brought about their fall: when they tasted of the tree, their shame became manifest to them, and they began to sew together the leaves of the garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them: "Did I not forbid you that tree, and tell you that Satan was an avowed enemy unto you?" They said: "Our Lord! We have wronged our own souls: If thou forgive us not and bestow not upon us Thy Mercy, we shall certainly be lost." (Allah) said: "Get ye down. With enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling-place and your means of livelihood,- for a time." (7:19-24)

A mere simple 6 verses from the Noble Quran completely supersedes the Biblical version of the same story which took two chapters to cover! This alone shows how superior the Quran is to the Bible, the Quran does not to write 2 or 10 chapters on one incident, but can discuss a major story in a couple of verses and can completely put the former version to shame.

As we see, the Quranic version of Adam and Eve's downfall completely corrects the Biblical mistakes to the true events of what really happened. Let us see how the Quran correctly corrects the Bible and getting the story right:

1- Allah's better advice

We see in the Noble Quran that Allah gives Adam and Eve the correct and better advice, which is to not APPROACH the tree. This is far better than simply allowing Adam and Eve to roam around freely with the tree in their midst with the simply advice of not eating from the tree. The better advice is to tell someone to avoid something bad, and not approach it, exactly as the Quran tells us.

2- BOTH Adam and Eve are EQUALLY guilty

Unlike the Bible where all the blame is mainly put on Eve, here we see that both Adam and Eve were deceived, and that they both together ate from the tree, not Eve alone being deceived and then deceiving Adam to join in her sin. No, satan went to them both and deceived them both into eating from the tree, and they were both equally guilty.


3- God is not portrayed as being weak

In the Quranic account we don't see Allah being weak, roaming around trying to find a hiding Adam like a game of hide and seek. Allah is immidietly aware of both Adam and Eve's sin as they commit it:

So by deceit he brought about their fall: when they tasted of the tree, their shame became manifest to them, and they began to sew together the leaves of the garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them: "Did I not forbid you that tree, and tell you that Satan was an avowed enemy unto you?"

Notice the second they eat from the tree, and realize that they are naked and try to clothe themselves, God immediately calls out telling them of their sin, unlike the Bible where he is walking around looking around trying to find Adam!

CONCLUSION



​

We have clearly seen that the Quran's version is vastly superior to the Bible's wrong version of how things really happened, no one can deny this unless they are simply biased, but that is their choice, the facts speak for themselves.

What I also still find amazing is that it took the Quran a mere 6 verses to discuss such a major story unlike the Bible.

We must thank Allah for sending down the Quran, for it has opened our eyes and showed us how things really did happen, correcting the Bible's errors and bad mis-information. Praise Allah! AMEEN!

 

[Gavana]

swadakta, tupia data. tuko pamoja. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!. Ila hapo penye sumu ni kiashiria mesenja alikuaje nyumbni kwa meneja. inaonekana kulikuwa na chaos sana.kumbe hatma ya mesenja ilikuwa hivi. tutasemaje kama haya sio malipo yake hapa duniani kwa matendo yake?!! gosh
gavana atatufafanulia zaidi

[FONT=Arial, Arial, Helvetica][h=4][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica] ORIGINS OF THE BIBLE[/FONT][/h] Before it became a collection of books, it was a folk tradition that relied entirely upon human memory, originally the only means of passing on ideas. This tradition was sung.
"At an elementary stage, writes E. Jacob, every people sings; in Israel, as elsewhere, poetry preceded prose. Israel sang long and well; led by circumstances of his history to the heights of joy and the depths of despair, taking part with intense feeling in all that happened to it, for everything in their eyes had a sense, Israel gave its song a wide variety of expression". They sang for the most diverse reasons and E. Jacob mentions a number of them to which we find the accompanying songs in the Bible: eating songs, harvest songs, songs connected with work, like the famous Well Song (Numbers 21, 17), wedding songs, as in the Song of Songs, and mourning songs. In the Bible there are numerous songs of war and among these we find the Song of Deborah (Judges 5, 1-32) exalting Israel's victory desired and led by Yahweh Himself, (Numbers 10, 35); "And whenever the ark (of alliance) set out, Moses said, 'Arise, oh Yahweh, and let thy enemies be scattered; and let them that hate thee nee before thee".
There are also the Maxims and Proverbs (Book of Proverbs, Proverbs and Maxims of the Historic Books), words of blessing and curse, and the laws decreed to man by the Prophets on reception of their Divine mandate.
E. Jacobs notes that these words were either passed down from family to family or channelled through the sanctuaries in the form of an account of the history of God's chosen people. History quickly turned into fable, as in the Fable of Jotham (Judges 9, 7-21), where "the trees went forth to anoint a king over them; and they asked in turn the olive tree, the fig tree, the vine and the bramble", which allows E. Jacob to note "animated by the need to tell a good story, the narration was not perturbed by subjects or times whose history was not well known", from which he concludes:



"It is probable that what the Old Testament narrates about Moses and the patriarchs only roughly corresponds to the succession of historic facts. The narrators however, even at the stage of oral transmission, were able to bring into play such grace and imagination to blend between them highly varied episodes, that when all is said and done, they were able to present as a history that was fairly credible to critical thinkers what happened at the beginning of humanity and the world".



There is good reason to believe that after the Jewish people settled in Canaan, at the end of the Thirteenth century B.C., writing was used to preserve and hand down the tradition. There was not however complete accuracy, even in what to men seems to demand the greatest durability, i.e. the laws. Among these, the laws which are supposed to have been written by God's own hand, the Ten Commandments, were transmitted in the Old Testament in two versions; Exodus (20,1-21) and Deuteronomy (5, 1-30). They are the same in spirit, but the variations are obvious.

There is also a concern to keep a large written record of contracts, letters, lists of personalities (Judges, high city officials, genealogical tables), lists of offerings and plunder. In this way, archives were created which provided documentation for the later editing of definitive works resulting in the books we have today. Thus in each book there is a mixture of different literary genres: it can be left to the specialists to find the reasons for this odd assortment of documents.


The Old Testament is a disparate whole based upon an initially oral tradition. It is interesting therefore to compare the process by which it was constituted with what could happen in another period and another place at the time when a primitive literature was born.
Let us take, for example, the birth of French literature at the time of the Frankish Royalty. The same oral tradition presided over the preservation of important deeds: wars, often in the defense of Christianity, various sensational events, where heroes distinguished themselves, that were destined centuries later to inspire court poets, chroniclers and authors of various 'cycles'. In this way, from the Eleventh century A.D. onwards, these narrative poems, in which reality is mixed with legend, were to appear and constitute the first monument in epic poetry.

The most famous of all is the Song of Roland (La Chanson de Roland) a biographical chant about a feat of arms in which Roland was the commander of Emperor Charlemagne's rearguard on its way home from an expedition in Spain. The sacrifice of Roland is not just an episode invented to meet the needs of the story. It took place on 15th August, 778. In actual fact it was an attack by Basques living in the mountains. This literary work is not just legend ; it has a historical basis, but no historian would take it literally.


This parallel between the birth of the Bible and a secular literature seems to correspond exactly with reality. It is in no way meant to relegate the whole Biblical text as we know it today to the store of mythological collections, as do so many of those who systematically negate the idea of God. It is perfectly possible to believe in the reality of the Creation, God's transmission to Moses of the Ten Commandments, Divine intercession in human affairs, e.g. at the time of Solomon.

This does not stop us, at the same time, from considering that what has been conveyed to us is the gist of these facts, and that the detail in the description should be subjected to rigorous criticism, the reason for this being that the element of human participation in the transcription of originally oral traditions is so great.

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[Ishmael]

hizo aya umezitoa kwenye quran iliyotengenezwa na kanisa lako ????

Qurani 81:19-21 Suratul At-Takwyr( Kukunja/jua litakapokunjwa)

Kwa hakika hii (Qurani ) ni kauli (aliyokuja nayo) mjumbe mtukufu (Jibrili) Mwenye nguvu,mwenye cheo cha hishima kwa mwenyenzi Mungu. Anayetiiwa huko (mbinguni na malaika wenziwe) kisha muaminifu.

LINGANISHA NA HII

QURAN 2. SURA AL- BAQARA

97. Sema: Aliye kuwa ni adui wa Jibril, basi huyo ndiye aliye iteremsha Qur'ani
moyoni mwako kwa idhini ya Mwenyezi Mungu, inayo thibitisha yaliyo kuwa kabla
yake, na ni uwongofu na bishara njema kwa Waumini.

SASA HAPA TUFUATE HIPI AU TUFUTE HIPI HAPA?

 

[2013]

Let us now turn our attention to the Noble Quran's version of how things really happened, and without a doubt, the Quran gets the story straight:


From Surah Al-Araf:

"O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden, and enjoy (its good things) as ye wish: but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression." Then began Satan to whisper suggestions to them, bringing openly before their minds all their shame that was hidden from them (before): he said: "Your Lord only forbade you this tree, lest ye should become angels or such beings as live for ever." And he swore to them both, that he was their sincere adviser. So by deceit he brought about their fall: when they tasted of the tree, their shame became manifest to them, and they began to sew together the leaves of the garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them: "Did I not forbid you that tree, and tell you that Satan was an avowed enemy unto you?" They said: "Our Lord! We have wronged our own souls: If thou forgive us not and bestow not upon us Thy Mercy, we shall certainly be lost." (Allah) said: "Get ye down. With enmity between yourselves. On earth will be your dwelling-place and your means of livelihood,- for a time." (7:19-24)

A mere simple 6 verses from the Noble Quran completely supersedes the Biblical version of the same story which took two chapters to cover! This alone shows how superior the Quran is to the Bible, the Quran does not to write 2 or 10 chapters on one incident, but can discuss a major story in a couple of verses and can completely put the former version to shame.

As we see, the Quranic version of Adam and Eve's downfall completely corrects the Biblical mistakes to the true events of what really happened. Let us see how the Quran correctly corrects the Bible and getting the story right:

1- Allah's better advice

We see in the Noble Quran that Allah gives Adam and Eve the correct and better advice, which is to not APPROACH the tree. This is far better than simply allowing Adam and Eve to roam around freely with the tree in their midst with the simply advice of not eating from the tree. The better advice is to tell someone to avoid something bad, and not approach it, exactly as the Quran tells us.

2- BOTH Adam and Eve are EQUALLY guilty

Unlike the Bible where all the blame is mainly put on Eve, here we see that both Adam and Eve were deceived, and that they both together ate from the tree, not Eve alone being deceived and then deceiving Adam to join in her sin. No, satan went to them both and deceived them both into eating from the tree, and they were both equally guilty.


3- God is not portrayed as being weak

In the Quranic account we don't see Allah being weak, roaming around trying to find a hiding Adam like a game of hide and seek. Allah is immidietly aware of both Adam and Eve's sin as they commit it:

So by deceit he brought about their fall: when they tasted of the tree, their shame became manifest to them, and they began to sew together the leaves of the garden over their bodies. And their Lord called unto them: "Did I not forbid you that tree, and tell you that Satan was an avowed enemy unto you?"

Notice the second they eat from the tree, and realize that they are naked and try to clothe themselves, God immediately calls out telling them of their sin, unlike the Bible where he is walking around looking around trying to find Adam!

CONCLUSION



​

We have clearly seen that the Quran's version is vastly superior to the Bible's wrong version of how things really happened, no one can deny this unless they are simply biased, but that is their choice, the facts speak for themselves.

What I also still find amazing is that it took the Quran a mere 6 verses to discuss such a major story unlike the Bible.

We must thank Allah for sending down the Quran, for it has opened our eyes and showed us how things really did happen, correcting the Bible's errors and bad mis-information. Praise Allah! AMEEN!

you provided to me only 6 verses of your quran, if i get time i will provide to you the very early translated source of quran and make comparing with your internet biased source.
anyway i still have issues. that i need to quench my curiosity...

6 verses lack important details, including on how Adam and Eve get in and out the Eden garden, How Human(adam and EVE) created and who was the first and where eve came from. it lacks lots. what are they doing in the Eden gardern? How Satan involved?
6 few verses are more of reporting form rather than how it happened. why?so this is what the late messenger provided to you, presumably after heard some clue of the people of the book?!
but also it is like a poems it does not sound like very important incidence has occurred. simply because of how story narrated, with just a few and more reporting verses rather than how all were happened(dramatic way of explanation)

i wonder the GOD that killed people today did not kill anyone there for being sinned, ironically he sounds happy and very diplomatic to both Satan and human as well. i think to day we are more populated that why he kills people.will you explain this too?
why aren't we live in the Garden until to date? you diplomatic God may give as an explanation.what eliminated us from the Garden?

 

[2013]

ORIGINS OF THE BIBLE

Before it became a collection of books, it was a folk tradition that relied entirely upon human memory, originally the only means of passing on ideas. This tradition was sung.
"At an elementary stage, writes E. Jacob, every people sings; in Israel, as elsewhere, poetry preceded prose. Israel sang long and well; led by circumstances of his history to the heights of joy and the depths of despair, taking part with intense feeling in all that happened to it, for everything in their eyes had a sense, Israel gave its song a wide variety of expression". They sang for the most diverse reasons and E. Jacob mentions a number of them to which we find the accompanying songs in the Bible: eating songs, harvest songs, songs connected with work, like the famous Well Song (Numbers 21, 17), wedding songs, as in the Song of Songs, and mourning songs. In the Bible there are numerous songs of war and among these we find the Song of Deborah (Judges 5, 1-32) exalting Israel's victory desired and led by Yahweh Himself, (Numbers 10, 35); "And whenever the ark (of alliance) set out, Moses said, 'Arise, oh Yahweh, and let thy enemies be scattered; and let them that hate thee nee before thee".
There are also the Maxims and Proverbs (Book of Proverbs, Proverbs and Maxims of the Historic Books), words of blessing and curse, and the laws decreed to man by the Prophets on reception of their Divine mandate.
E. Jacobs notes that these words were either passed down from family to family or channelled through the sanctuaries in the form of an account of the history of God's chosen people. History quickly turned into fable, as in the Fable of Jotham (Judges 9, 7-21), where "the trees went forth to anoint a king over them; and they asked in turn the olive tree, the fig tree, the vine and the bramble", which allows E. Jacob to note "animated by the need to tell a good story, the narration was not perturbed by subjects or times whose history was not well known", from which he concludes:



"It is probable that what the Old Testament narrates about Moses and the patriarchs only roughly corresponds to the succession of historic facts. The narrators however, even at the stage of oral transmission, were able to bring into play such grace and imagination to blend between them highly varied episodes, that when all is said and done, they were able to present as a history that was fairly credible to critical thinkers what happened at the beginning of humanity and the world".



There is good reason to believe that after the Jewish people settled in Canaan, at the end of the Thirteenth century B.C., writing was used to preserve and hand down the tradition. There was not however complete accuracy, even in what to men seems to demand the greatest durability, i.e. the laws. Among these, the laws which are supposed to have been written by God's own hand, the Ten Commandments, were transmitted in the Old Testament in two versions; Exodus (20,1-21) and Deuteronomy (5, 1-30). They are the same in spirit, but the variations are obvious.

There is also a concern to keep a large written record of contracts, letters, lists of personalities (Judges, high city officials, genealogical tables), lists of offerings and plunder. In this way, archives were created which provided documentation for the later editing of definitive works resulting in the books we have today. Thus in each book there is a mixture of different literary genres: it can be left to the specialists to find the reasons for this odd assortment of documents.


The Old Testament is a disparate whole based upon an initially oral tradition. It is interesting therefore to compare the process by which it was constituted with what could happen in another period and another place at the time when a primitive literature was born.
Let us take, for example, the birth of French literature at the time of the Frankish Royalty. The same oral tradition presided over the preservation of important deeds: wars, often in the defense of Christianity, various sensational events, where heroes distinguished themselves, that were destined centuries later to inspire court poets, chroniclers and authors of various 'cycles'. In this way, from the Eleventh century A.D. onwards, these narrative poems, in which reality is mixed with legend, were to appear and constitute the first monument in epic poetry.

The most famous of all is the Song of Roland (La Chanson de Roland) a biographical chant about a feat of arms in which Roland was the commander of Emperor Charlemagne's rearguard on its way home from an expedition in Spain. The sacrifice of Roland is not just an episode invented to meet the needs of the story. It took place on 15th August, 778. In actual fact it was an attack by Basques living in the mountains. This literary work is not just legend ; it has a historical basis, but no historian would take it literally.


This parallel between the birth of the Bible and a secular literature seems to correspond exactly with reality. It is in no way meant to relegate the whole Biblical text as we know it today to the store of mythological collections, as do so many of those who systematically negate the idea of God. It is perfectly possible to believe in the reality of the Creation, God's transmission to Moses of the Ten Commandments, Divine intercession in human affairs, e.g. at the time of Solomon.

This does not stop us, at the same time, from considering that what has been conveyed to us is the gist of these facts, and that the detail in the description should be subjected to rigorous criticism, the reason for this being that the element of human participation in the transcription of originally oral traditions is so great.

origin of the bible ni source nyingi sana na vitabu vingi na maelezo hayafanani. na ujue wanaotumia hizi sources most ni atheists, ndio maana athiest hawaangaiki kukosoa quran kwani kila kitu kipo wazi, na verses are more superficial and disjointed and unthinkable!! kwenye mambo ya origin usije kabisa kwani tukianza kugusa quran kwenye haya maelezo imejieleza yenyewe inatokana na dini ya wapagani. tena kwenye kitabu mnaita kimeshushwa. ambapo kuna mahali quran hiyohiyo allah anakanusha kwa kusema hakijashushwa, yaani ukiachilia mbali mazingira yanayothibitisha wazi wazi kuwa muhamad hakutumwa na mungu bali jamaa zake na mkewe hadija.
Ni ngeshauri uweka hoja iendane na kinachoaminiwa na sio kurejea muundo. hautatusaidia. kwani data zinazowahusu mnaweza kurusha ngumi. kwani mnaweza kusema mnajaribiwa imani lakini ukweli ndio hivyo tena. unajua kwanini mbuzi alikula karatasi zilizoshushwa?umewahi kujiuliza zilikuwa na nini kama zingekuwepo leo? unajua kwanini muhamad alilishwa sumu? .
better not to try probe about that. cause it is damn real, your book is not Godly.

my take usipende sana kugusia origin kwani yenu haijatulia kabisa!!.hayo waachie wasioamini uwepo wa mungu.
origin of the bible hawaamini chochote hata hizo unaita adam na eva, sasa mwisho huwezi kuwathibitishia kupitia kuran kwani wanaona kile walichokipinga kwenye baibo ndicho mlichokichukua nyinyi.evidence ziko wazi sana peupee.

 

[2013]

hizo aya umezitoa kwenye quran iliyotengenezwa na kanisa lako ????

tupia ayati zako, ili tujue amekosea wapi? na mimi nipate moyo wa kuweka original hapa. nipo jiran na shekh mstahafu na msomi sana wa mambo ya dini bali amehasi imani yake kongwe. Amenidokeza ila hataki wengi wa jue anahofia watamdhuru. sijui kwanini hata hivyo wanataka kumdhuru. wakati kuna uhuru wa dini.Nita muuliza kwani vitabu anavyopia.