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End of the World: Nostradamus 2012, December 21 - Mayan Prophecy
End of the World: Nostradamus 2012, December 21 - Mayan Prophecy
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21 December 2012 Last updated at 01:56 GMT
Mayan prophecies: Life after the (non) end of the world
By Jon Kelly
BBC News Magazine, Washington DC
Despite all the predictions of Mayan apocalypse, the world will probably not end by Saturday morning. How will the believers cope when life carries on?
The clock strikes midnight, the hallowed date arrives and, once again, the apocalypse fails to turn up on schedule.
For such a cataclysmic event, the projected end of the world has come around with surprising regularity throughout history.
Each time a group of believers has been left bewildered at the absence of all-consuming death and devastation.
If they've taking the warnings seriously enough, they will have sold their homes, abandoned earthly civilisation's material trappings and braced themselves for the arrival of a new era.
The latest date to herald widespread alarm is 21 December, which marks the conclusion of the 5,125-year "Long Count" Mayan calendar.
Around the world, precautions are being taken.
Survival pods built for 21 December in Hebei province, China
Panic-buying of candles has been reported in China's Sichuan province. In Russia, where sales of tinned goods and matches have surged, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has urged his countryfolk to remain calm.
End of days glitch?
Dr Geoffrey Braswell
University of California, San Diego
The 2012 phenomenon is essentially an accounting problem; a misinterpretation of some very ancient book keeping.
It is based on the Maya calendar, which counts the days since a date in the mythical past. This count reset after the last creation (on or about 11 August, 3114BC). On 21 December, we will reach that same number of days once again, and many now are concerned that a calendrical reset the following day will mean the end of the world.
But it is not even clear that the Maya themselves agreed on this book-keeping issue. Two ancient inscriptions emphasise the importance of the date. But a third focuses on 13 October 4772, the end of an even bigger cycle that cannot happen if a reset occurs in 2012.
This more detailed text predicts that, at an even later date, the great king K'inich Janaab' Pakal will return to Palenque to rule. If this Maya prophesy is true, then the world will not end in 2012 or even 4772, no matter how the ancient calendar functioned.
Authorities in the French Pyrenees are preparing for an influx of believers to the mountain Pic de Bugarach, where rumours have spread that UFOs will rescue human gatherers.
And one doesn't have to belong to a sect to find these predictions compelling. Humankind's ongoing fascination with the apocalypse is evident in mainstream popular culture.
Films like 2012, Armageddon and The Day After Tomorrow all packed out multiplexes by depicting threats of global catastrophe. The Left Behind novels about a "post-rapture" world have reportedly sold more than 70 million copies.
If precedent is any guide, however, 21 December is likely to prove an anti-climax. Since the dawn of civilisation, humans have often been gripped by certainty that the world was about to end.
The Romans panicked at predictions their city would be destroyed in 634 BC. Millennial fears gripped Europe ahead of the year 1000 AD. During the English Civil War, groups like the Fifth Monarchists believed the end was nigh.
More recent apocalypses have panned out in much the same way. Followers of Nostradamus braced themselves for the arrival of the "King of Terror" in "1999 and seven months". US television evangelist Pat Robertson forecast that "something like" a nuclear attack would occur in late 2007.
The California radio preacher Harold Camping set a date for the end of the world no fewer than six times, settling on 22 October 2011 - a day which, historians may recall, was distinguished by an absence of fire and brimstone.
Harold Camping revised his predicted date for Judgement Day numerous times
For those who paid heed to their dire warnings, learning that life will in fact carry on as normal might be expected to be a deeply traumatic experience.
Surprisingly, however, groups which predict the end of the world have quite a good record of carrying on after the world is supposed to have ended, says Lorne Dawson, an expert in the sociology of religion at the University of Waterloo.
"The vast majority seem to shrug off the failure of prophecy fairly well," he says.
Of 75 groups identified by Dawson which predicted the apocalypse, all but six remained intact after catastrophe failed to materialise.
Indeed, many have gone on to flourish. Jehovah's Witnesses are viewed as having predicted some form of end several times and yet still have more than seven million followers.
The Seventh Day Adventists, who have an estimated 17 million members, grew out of the Millerites, whose failed apocalyptic forecast in 1844 became known as the Great Disappointment.
The Great Disappointment
The seminal study into this phenomenon came in the 1956 text When Prophecy Fails, in which psychologist Leon Festinger recounted how he and his students infiltrated a group who believed the world was about to end with members being rescued by a flying saucer.
When both the apocalypse and the UFO failed to materialise, Festinger found, the leader declared that the small circle of believers had "spread so much light" that God had spared the planet. Her followers responded by proselytising the good news among non-believers in what Festinger saw as a classic case of cognitive dissonance.
In a similar exercise, psychiatrist Simon Dein spent time with a small community of Lubavitch Hassidic Jews in Stamford Hill, north London. For years many Lubavitchers had believed their spiritual leader Menechem Mendel Schneerson, known as the rebbe, was the messiah.
According to their theology, he would herald the end of civilisation and usher in a new age. Their faith was tested, however, when the rebbe passed away in New York in 1994.
"I was there at the time he died," says Dein. "They were crying. They were mourning. There was a great sense of denial - he couldn't die. Would he reveal himself?"
But, Dein says, these Lubavitchers did not give up their belief system. Very quickly, they took up the idea he was still alive and could not be seen, or that he would somehow rise from the dead.
"There are very heated tensions between those who believe he's alive and those who believe he's dead, but his death doesn't seem to have diminished the number of people in the group," Dein says.
A candle in memory of Menechem Mendel Schneerson
According to Dawson, the 200 Lubavitcher families in Stamford Hill had the most crucial trait necessary to keep a group together after a failed apocalypse - a strong sense of community.
"If the group itself has been pretty cohesive, it's been free of schism and dissent, they can get through," he says.
No apocalypse now
"In 1988 there was a really big apocalyptic scenario. I was 14 and in my freshman year at high school in Amarillo, Texas," says Jason Boylett, author of Pocket Guide to the Apocalypse.
"A former Nasa scientist and mathematician called Edgar Whisenant had predicted the world was going to end in September based on calculations from the Bible. He sent his pamphlets out to hundreds of thousands of churches. My Southern Baptist pastor talked about it from the pulpit.
"I spent that summer really pretty scared, because people who had authority our our lives said this is something that might happen in September. I was afraid this was going to be my last summer. When the dates came round I went to bed thinking this is going to be the last time I see my parents.
"Afterwards, obviously, I was relieved. But it really disillusioned me. I knew then I couldn't always trust my pastor.
"I'm still a practicing Christian and I'm not walking around psychologically wounded. But since then my religious belief has been marked with a lot of questioning, a lot of doubt and a lot of cynicism."
Also important, he believes, is the presence of a decisive leadership who can offer a swift explanation.
"If rationalisation comes quickly, the group can withstand ridicule from outside," he adds.
Some leaders, such as Camping on several occasions, simply offer a new date for the apocalypse. Others apologise to their members for getting the scheduling wrong.
Tragically, some take more drastic action. The bodies of 39 members of the Heaven's Gate cult were found in 1997. They had taken their own lives in the belief they would reach a UFO following the Hale-Bopp comet.
Most, however, find a peaceful way to adjust.
"When you have invested so much in a belief, you have a very strong interest in salvaging something from it," says Philip Jenkins, a historian of religion at Baylor University in Texas.
For Jenkins, the appeal of leaders preaching the impending apocalypse down the ages has always been about far more than the specifics of their prophecies.
"It's a kind of rejection of the order of the world as it is," he says. "It's to do with imagining something far better. After it becomes apparent that the new order isn't going to come, there are ways of adjusting the message."
For true believers, the saga is only just beginning when the clock hands reach 12.
Mayan prophecies: Life after the (non) end of the world
By Jon Kelly
BBC News Magazine, Washington DC
Despite all the predictions of Mayan apocalypse, the world will probably not end by Saturday morning. How will the believers cope when life carries on?
The clock strikes midnight, the hallowed date arrives and, once again, the apocalypse fails to turn up on schedule.
For such a cataclysmic event, the projected end of the world has come around with surprising regularity throughout history.
Each time a group of believers has been left bewildered at the absence of all-consuming death and devastation.
If they've taking the warnings seriously enough, they will have sold their homes, abandoned earthly civilisation's material trappings and braced themselves for the arrival of a new era.
The latest date to herald widespread alarm is 21 December, which marks the conclusion of the 5,125-year "Long Count" Mayan calendar.
Around the world, precautions are being taken.
Survival pods built for 21 December in Hebei province, China
Panic-buying of candles has been reported in China's Sichuan province. In Russia, where sales of tinned goods and matches have surged, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has urged his countryfolk to remain calm.
End of days glitch?
Dr Geoffrey Braswell
University of California, San Diego
The 2012 phenomenon is essentially an accounting problem; a misinterpretation of some very ancient book keeping.
It is based on the Maya calendar, which counts the days since a date in the mythical past. This count reset after the last creation (on or about 11 August, 3114BC). On 21 December, we will reach that same number of days once again, and many now are concerned that a calendrical reset the following day will mean the end of the world.
But it is not even clear that the Maya themselves agreed on this book-keeping issue. Two ancient inscriptions emphasise the importance of the date. But a third focuses on 13 October 4772, the end of an even bigger cycle that cannot happen if a reset occurs in 2012.
This more detailed text predicts that, at an even later date, the great king K'inich Janaab' Pakal will return to Palenque to rule. If this Maya prophesy is true, then the world will not end in 2012 or even 4772, no matter how the ancient calendar functioned.
- How this apocalyptic prophesy is one of many
- End of the world, or a new beginning?
- The Fall of the Mayan Civilisation
Authorities in the French Pyrenees are preparing for an influx of believers to the mountain Pic de Bugarach, where rumours have spread that UFOs will rescue human gatherers.
And one doesn't have to belong to a sect to find these predictions compelling. Humankind's ongoing fascination with the apocalypse is evident in mainstream popular culture.
Films like 2012, Armageddon and The Day After Tomorrow all packed out multiplexes by depicting threats of global catastrophe. The Left Behind novels about a "post-rapture" world have reportedly sold more than 70 million copies.
If precedent is any guide, however, 21 December is likely to prove an anti-climax. Since the dawn of civilisation, humans have often been gripped by certainty that the world was about to end.
The Romans panicked at predictions their city would be destroyed in 634 BC. Millennial fears gripped Europe ahead of the year 1000 AD. During the English Civil War, groups like the Fifth Monarchists believed the end was nigh.
More recent apocalypses have panned out in much the same way. Followers of Nostradamus braced themselves for the arrival of the "King of Terror" in "1999 and seven months". US television evangelist Pat Robertson forecast that "something like" a nuclear attack would occur in late 2007.
The California radio preacher Harold Camping set a date for the end of the world no fewer than six times, settling on 22 October 2011 - a day which, historians may recall, was distinguished by an absence of fire and brimstone.
Harold Camping revised his predicted date for Judgement Day numerous times
For those who paid heed to their dire warnings, learning that life will in fact carry on as normal might be expected to be a deeply traumatic experience.
Surprisingly, however, groups which predict the end of the world have quite a good record of carrying on after the world is supposed to have ended, says Lorne Dawson, an expert in the sociology of religion at the University of Waterloo.
"The vast majority seem to shrug off the failure of prophecy fairly well," he says.
Of 75 groups identified by Dawson which predicted the apocalypse, all but six remained intact after catastrophe failed to materialise.
Indeed, many have gone on to flourish. Jehovah's Witnesses are viewed as having predicted some form of end several times and yet still have more than seven million followers.
The Seventh Day Adventists, who have an estimated 17 million members, grew out of the Millerites, whose failed apocalyptic forecast in 1844 became known as the Great Disappointment.
The Great Disappointment
- William Miller, a Baptist preacher in the US, believed Jesus would return to Earth in 1844
- He drew on prophecies in the Book of Daniel (especially chapter 8:14 "Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed")
- Tens of thousands of followers waited in vain on 22 October 1844 - some having given away their money and possessions
- "It was a bitter disappointment that fell upon the little flock whose faith had been so strong and whose hope had been so high," wrote follower Ellen West, "but we were surprised that we felt so free in the Lord, and were so strongly sustained by His strength and grace"
The seminal study into this phenomenon came in the 1956 text When Prophecy Fails, in which psychologist Leon Festinger recounted how he and his students infiltrated a group who believed the world was about to end with members being rescued by a flying saucer.
When both the apocalypse and the UFO failed to materialise, Festinger found, the leader declared that the small circle of believers had "spread so much light" that God had spared the planet. Her followers responded by proselytising the good news among non-believers in what Festinger saw as a classic case of cognitive dissonance.
In a similar exercise, psychiatrist Simon Dein spent time with a small community of Lubavitch Hassidic Jews in Stamford Hill, north London. For years many Lubavitchers had believed their spiritual leader Menechem Mendel Schneerson, known as the rebbe, was the messiah.
According to their theology, he would herald the end of civilisation and usher in a new age. Their faith was tested, however, when the rebbe passed away in New York in 1994.
"I was there at the time he died," says Dein. "They were crying. They were mourning. There was a great sense of denial - he couldn't die. Would he reveal himself?"
But, Dein says, these Lubavitchers did not give up their belief system. Very quickly, they took up the idea he was still alive and could not be seen, or that he would somehow rise from the dead.
"There are very heated tensions between those who believe he's alive and those who believe he's dead, but his death doesn't seem to have diminished the number of people in the group," Dein says.
A candle in memory of Menechem Mendel Schneerson
According to Dawson, the 200 Lubavitcher families in Stamford Hill had the most crucial trait necessary to keep a group together after a failed apocalypse - a strong sense of community.
"If the group itself has been pretty cohesive, it's been free of schism and dissent, they can get through," he says.
No apocalypse now
"In 1988 there was a really big apocalyptic scenario. I was 14 and in my freshman year at high school in Amarillo, Texas," says Jason Boylett, author of Pocket Guide to the Apocalypse.
"A former Nasa scientist and mathematician called Edgar Whisenant had predicted the world was going to end in September based on calculations from the Bible. He sent his pamphlets out to hundreds of thousands of churches. My Southern Baptist pastor talked about it from the pulpit.
"I spent that summer really pretty scared, because people who had authority our our lives said this is something that might happen in September. I was afraid this was going to be my last summer. When the dates came round I went to bed thinking this is going to be the last time I see my parents.
"Afterwards, obviously, I was relieved. But it really disillusioned me. I knew then I couldn't always trust my pastor.
"I'm still a practicing Christian and I'm not walking around psychologically wounded. But since then my religious belief has been marked with a lot of questioning, a lot of doubt and a lot of cynicism."
Also important, he believes, is the presence of a decisive leadership who can offer a swift explanation.
"If rationalisation comes quickly, the group can withstand ridicule from outside," he adds.
Some leaders, such as Camping on several occasions, simply offer a new date for the apocalypse. Others apologise to their members for getting the scheduling wrong.
Tragically, some take more drastic action. The bodies of 39 members of the Heaven's Gate cult were found in 1997. They had taken their own lives in the belief they would reach a UFO following the Hale-Bopp comet.
Most, however, find a peaceful way to adjust.
"When you have invested so much in a belief, you have a very strong interest in salvaging something from it," says Philip Jenkins, a historian of religion at Baylor University in Texas.
For Jenkins, the appeal of leaders preaching the impending apocalypse down the ages has always been about far more than the specifics of their prophecies.
"It's a kind of rejection of the order of the world as it is," he says. "It's to do with imagining something far better. After it becomes apparent that the new order isn't going to come, there are ways of adjusting the message."
For true believers, the saga is only just beginning when the clock hands reach 12.
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Sawa nimekuelewa dada yangu, sasa unaonaje tuwaombe mods wafute majukwaa mengine yote humu jf ili tubaki na jukwaa moja tula siasa, maana ukiingia kila jukwaa utagundua kuwa tunafanya siasa kwa jinsi nilivyokuelewa hapa au tena nipo wrong? Kama nipo wrong usisite kunielimisha mkuu
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Wazungu bwana! Kumbe sometimes uonekana kama mafala fulani hivi!
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nadhan hapa hatukuwaelewa!! mwisho wa dunia?? je ni dunia ipi?? kuna hawa ndugu zetu aka freemason wanaamini kwamba mwisho wa dunia ilikua jana (21/12/12) hiki kitu hata mkubwa einstain alitabiri lakini tujiulize wanaposema mwisho wa dunia wanamaanisha nini?? bila sahaka mtakua mnafaamu kitu kuhusu new worl order(N.W.O) sasa kwa imani zao ni kwamba imeanzishwa jana na hiki ni kipindi wanachoamini kwamba nimzunguko mpya au mzunguko wa pili na from jana wao wanaamini rais wa kwanza wa USA ni mr obama!!! sasa embu tujaribu kufikiri zaid hii NWO itakua na effects gani katika maisha yetu hasa sisi watu wa dunia ya tatu!! hatuna budi KUSHIKILIA NA KUAMINI,NA KUTUNZA IMANI ZETU,MUNGU YUPO NA YU AJA!
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Kwa mujibu wa Iron Lady ni kuwa majukwaa yote yanafanya siasa tofauti ni kuwa hiyo siasa inahusu nini.Hivyo kuna politics tofauti kulingana na majukwaa.Huko unakotaka pabaki kuna siasa zinazohusu serikali na vyama vya siasa,vipi kuhusu siasa za mahusiano,n.k?
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Acheni kupotosha watu kwa fikra zenu za ajabu ajabu. Weka source ya ulichokiongea freemasons na illuminate limekuwa janga la kitaifa tz kila mtu anajifanya anaijua sana
ndupa
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amini uaminicho...the end is near!
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Hakuna ajuaye siku wala saa mwana wa adam atakaporudi. (wakristo wameambiwa hivyo)
Kwa Waislamu mpaka aje huyo sijui wanamwita nani then aje nabii Issa kumwangamiza . So haijatokea hiyo we still have many years kwa hiyo.
Sa sijui wewe una amini katika imani gani
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Nimepata kucheki vi documentaries vyao na nikagundua wanapoteza muda tu,end of the world wapi tangu miaka ya 2000 hadi leo.Suala hapa ni kwamba nchi za wenzetu watu wana ideas nyingi na wanataka wafanye bizz na kujitangaza,so wanazusha zusha tu issue za ajabu na matokeo yake hajawahi kuonekana.Nostradamus yeye tangu miaka ile ya elfu moja mia saba na kitu hadi leo hama kitu,wakati wa cold war watu wakadhani ndio mwisho wa dunia lakini wapi?
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mkuu umenielewa vizuri na naamini waheed nae atakuwa amekuelewa.
kuhusu mahusiano yatabaki hukohuko katika mahusiano. tena mahusiano ndio yana siasa balaa.
ninachokataa mimi ni kule kuwaambia watu kuwa we hata hiki ni siasa? katika jukwaa la siasa. coz every thing is politics. walitakiwa mods waseme hapa tunadili na siasa za vyama na serikali. ili mtu akiweka tofauti na hicho basi wamshushue.
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hawana sababu ya kufuta majukwaa yote ila wangesema jukwaa wanaloliita la siasa ni la siasa zipi basi.
wengine wakipost kitu tofauti iwe sahihi kuwaambia hapa hapahusiki na ulichopost.
Acheni kusambaza uzushi. watu mnapeana vistori kwenye vijiwe huko halafu mnavieneza. tumieni sources za kueleweka. Lazima muwe wadadisi. bila hata kujiuliza maswali mnasambaza uvumi juu ya masons, nwo, nostradamus, nk. tuache kufanya mambo kibongobongo jamani. it's ridiculous and silly.
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hujashikiwa bakora...we amini uaminicho!!