Government to spend Sh65b in electrifying SGR by 2021

[joto la jiwe]

Dude, why do you like with your own invented figures and assumptions. When you man up, get the right stats come back and talk like a man. Not telling us that BRT is more viable than SGR, a billion dollar project. What makes you think experts would spend that amount for such a project besides, i thought BRT is supposed to be a non-profitable system put in place to ease city traffic. No2 you're here comparing it's profitability to Kenya's SGR. You're being insane.

Cool down man, cool down my young brother, I have given you my figures, if you have different figures please let's us look at them. Yes BRT is suppose not to make profit, but it must be sustainable and not making loses too, by charging Tshs 650 which is about Ksh 30 is far cheap than many private own of such standard, but because it carries big number of people per day, it makes alot of money per day.

 

[BabaRizy]

kwani they dont pay those storage charges at Mombasa??? my friend, Ugandan traders still pay storage charges at the Mombasa port....but after the launch of the cargo trains, they wont have to pay it in Mombasa since goods will be taken to Nairobi immediately they are offloaded from the ship....in fact this will make it easier for them since they will come from UG to find the goods have already arrived at Nairobi...

How about the cost of offloading and loading in Mombasa and Nairobi.... Who is going to pay?

 

[IamLee]

Cool down man, cool down my young brother, I have given you my figures, if you have different figures please let's us look at them. Yes BRT is suppose not to make profit, but it must be sustainable and not making loses too, by charging Tshs 650 which is about Ksh 30 is far cheap than many private own of such standard, but because it carries big number of people per day, it makes alot of money per day.

considering that the Kenya SGR is even more economically viable as compared to your yet to be built SGR, im sorry but i cant start playing along, ill be a moron if i start comparing a mere BRT to a mega SGR project which is work on progress too.Ngong to Naivasha we are talking more than 50% done at the moment...

 

[Kafrican]

Kama utakumbuka, hoja yangu ilikuwa ni kutokana na mipango mibovu wakati wa kupanga hiyo miradi huko kwenu, mingi inakuwa au haikamiliki au ikikamilika basi inakuwa ni hasara haileti value for money, hiyo miradi niliyokutajia, Uhuru Kenyatta mwenyewe alikiri kwamba hakuna sababu yoyote ya kujenga green field kwa sasa ni bora kuongeza njia ya pili ya kurukia ndege ambalo ndilo linalofanyika kwa sasa, unaweza kujiuliza, hivi ilikuwaje nchi haikulijua hilo mapema hadi ikafikia hatua ya ujenzi umeanza baada ya sherehe kubwa ya kuzindua mradi iliyoudhuriwa na rais yule yule ambaye miezi michache baadae anafuta huo mradi?, kwa kweli Kenya ukiifikiria kwa undani sana ni vichekesho vitupu. Miradi ya kukurupuka kama hiyo ni mingi sana, hiyo laptop for child, ni vichekesho tupu, ukiuliza nchi inataka kufikia lengo gani, utasikia hot air from mouths of politicians, no substance at all. Ukiuliza kwanini Kenya haikupanga Kujenga SGR ya umeme kutokea mwanzo, na kwanini hata miaka 3 haijaisha wanataka kuweka umeme, kwanini hilo hawakuliona mapema, utasikia blaaah blaah nyingi tu.

He! Kujifanya kujua kwingi wakati you don't know what you are talking about ndo shida inayokusumbua..

Greenfield project was a project well thout out long time ago during Raila/Kibaki regime, the initial meeting,design and price tag was done then, back in 2010-2011.

Problems started when tendering kept on changing as you can see below this is a 2011 news article , where Raila was telling arliament to keep off the project.

The problem continued until it reached a point the tendering process was cancelled and a new tender issued, by then Uhuru was in power 2013, at the time the airport was ver congested. In the same 2013, part of the airport caught fire fording jkia to build a temporary prefabricated terminal then renovate the burnt terminal to what is now known as terminal 1A these temporary measures significantly increased the capacity of jkia so the govt realised that the $600m greenfield wasn't that much of a priority, at he time there were other things that were more important to the jubilee govt lle.g the sgr,msa port, roads,...etc also some people believe some power rokers within the jubelee govt are the nes who cancelled the project because they didn't benefit anything during tendering... Those are some of he events that happened b4 final cancellation. But there are those like me o believe the project shouldn't have been cancelled, if we want to cement our position as an aviation hub then we need an airport that makes statement to the world, an airport that withing its compound will have a 7star hotel, level 5 hospital among other amenities, the greenfield project was all of that and we wasted it.

 

[joto la jiwe]

He! Kujifanya kujua kwingi wakati you don't know what you are talking about ndo shida inayokusumbua..

Greenfield project was a project well thout out long time ago during Raila/Kibaki regime, the initial meeting,design and price tag was done then, back in 2010-2011.

Problems started when tendering kept on changing as you can see below this is a 2011 news article , where Raila was telling arliament to keep off the project.

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The problem continued until it reached a point the tendering process was cancelled and a new tender issued, by then Uhuru was in power 2013, at the time the airport was ver congested. In the same 2013, part of the airport caught fire fording jkia to build a temporary prefabricated terminal then renovate the burnt terminal to what is now known as terminal 1A these temporary measures significantly increased the capacity of jkia so the govt realised that the $600m greenfield wasn't that much of a priority, at he time there were other things that were more important to the jubilee govt lle.g the sgr,msa port, roads,...etc also some people believe some power rokers within the jubelee govt are the nes who cancelled the project because they didn't benefit anything during tendering... Those are some of he events that happened b4 final cancellation. But there are those like me o believe the project shouldn't have been cancelled, if we want to cement our position as an aviation hub then we need an airport that makes statement to the world, an airport that withing its compound will have a 7star hotel, level 5 hospital among other amenities, the greenfield project was all of that and we wasted it.

My friend, kuhusu mambo ya Kenya ninauwezo mkubwa na ninayafuatilia sana kukuzidi wewe, mara nyingi wewe unajaribu kupeleka mambo au kujenga hoja ili kuficha au kuonyesha kwamba hali sio mbaya Kenya, wakati kiukweli viongozi wa Kenya wanafanya maamuzi ya hovyo katika miradi mikubwa ya nchi, wengi wenu mnasema inatokana na rushwa au maamuzi ya kisiasa, lakini mnasahau kwamba uwezo mdogo walionao katika kujenga hoja zenu pia ni tatizo sana, mara nyingi hamkubaliani na ukweli hasa ule ambao ni mchungu kwa upande wenu.

Soma historia ya uwanja wenu kuanzia phase ya kwanza iliyofunguliwa na mzee Jommo Kenyatta, uwezo wake ulikuwa ni 2.5M kwa mwaka, lakini uwanja ulizidiwa na idadi kubwa ya passengers ukawa unahudumia watu hadi 6M, ndipo utawala wa Kibaki na Raila wakafikiria kujenga greenfield ambayo itaongeza capacity hadi 20M, hapo katikati moto ulipotokea, ndiyo wakafanya ujenzi, ambao mwanzoni walipanga kuwa ni temporary, sehemu hiyo mpya iliongeza capacity ya 2M.

Pamoja na kujengwa kwa hii sehemu mpwa, bado mpango wa ujenzi wa greenfield uliendelea na mkandarasi alikuwa ameanza kufanya mobilization na alishaanza hatua zote za awali, kumbuka lengo la serikali ilikuwa ni kufikisha abiria 20M, sasa ilikuwaje ghafla tu waone kwamba ile sehemu mpya iliyojengwa baada ya ule moto inatosha wakati iliongeza uwezo wa abiria 2M pekee?, hiyo idadi ya watu 20M waliipataje na ni kwanini ghafla waone sio hiyo badala yake ni 2M?.

Kenya uwezo wenu wa kufikiria mambo unatia wasiwasi sana japo hamkubali kujifunza, Uhuru Kenyatta mwenyewe alitoa speech nzuri sana wakati wa kuweka jiwe la msingi na kuonyesha umuhimu wa greenfield kwa Kenya na Africa nzima, ghafla akageuza maneno kwamba sio muhimu kwa wakati huu baada ya kukosa pesach za ujenzi, na kudai kwamba kwa sasa hivi terminal 1A, ambayo kimsingi haukupangwa kabla, ilijengwa kama emergency tu baada ya ule moto, iwe inakuwa mbadala wa greenfield ambayo ilikuwa tayari imeanza kujengwa?, huko ni kukurupuka bila kujua nchi inahitaji nini.

 

[Kafrican]

My friend, kuhusu mambo ya Kenya ninauwezo mkubwa na ninayafuatilia sana kukuzidi wewe, mara nyingi wewe unajaribu kupeleka mambo au kujenga hoja ili kuficha au kuonyesha kwamba hali sio mbaya Kenya, wakati kiukweli viongozi wa Kenya wanafanya maamuzi ya hovyo katika miradi mikubwa ya nchi, wengi wenu mnasema inatokana na rushwa au maamuzi ya kisiasa, lakini mnasahau kwamba uwezo mdogo walionao katika kujenga hoja zenu pia ni tatizo sana, mara nyingi hamkubaliani na ukweli hasa ule ambao ni mchungu kwa upande wenu.

Soma historia ya uwanja wenu kuanzia phase ya kwanza iliyofunguliwa na mzee Jommo Kenyatta, uwezo wake ulikuwa ni 2.5M kwa mwaka, lakini uwanja ulizidiwa na idadi kubwa ya passengers ukawa unahudumia watu hadi 6M, ndipo utawala wa Kibaki na Raila wakafikiria kujenga greenfield ambayo itaongeza capacity hadi 20M, hapo katikati moto ulipotokea, ndiyo wakafanya ujenzi, ambao mwanzoni walipanga kuwa ni temporary, sehemu hiyo mpya iliongeza capacity ya 2M.

Pamoja na kujengwa kwa hii sehemu mpwa, bado mpango wa ujenzi wa greenfield uliendelea na mkandarasi alikuwa ameanza kufanya mobilization na alishaanza hatua zote za awali, kumbuka lengo la serikali ilikuwa ni kufikisha abiria 20M, sasa ilikuwaje ghafla tu waone kwamba ile sehemu mpya iliyojengwa baada ya ule moto inatosha wakati iliongeza uwezo wa abiria 2M pekee?, hiyo idadi ya watu 20M waliipataje na ni kwanini ghafla waone sio hiyo badala yake ni 2M?.

Kenya uwezo wenu wa kufikiria mambo unatia wasiwasi sana japo hamkubali kujifunza, Uhuru Kenyatta mwenyewe alitoa speech nzuri sana wakati wa kuweka jiwe la msingi na kuonyesha umuhimu wa greenfield kwa Kenya na Africa nzima, ghafla akageuza maneno kwamba sio muhimu kwa wakati huu baada ya kukosa pesach za ujenzi, na kudai kwamba kwa sasa hivi terminal 1A, ambayo kimsingi haukupangwa kabla, ilijengwa kama emergency tu baada ya ule moto, iwe inakuwa mbadala wa greenfield ambayo ilikuwa tayari imeanza kujengwa?, huko ni kukurupuka bila kujua nchi inahitaji nini.

Angalia unaweka wazi sasa vile haujui kila kith.
Ile prefabricated terminal (terminal 2) pekee iliongeza capacity ya 2.5Million mbali na marekebisho ya terminal 1A, hii ilifanya capacity ya jkia kupnda hadi 7.5Million!
Greenfield terminal ilikua inajengwa in phases na sio kwa mpigo mmoja. Phase 1 iliyokua iishe 2017-18 ilikua iongeze capacity hadi 8million lakini ukiangalia tayari jkia ilikua inakaribia 7.5mil ... Wakaamua kwamba yale arekebisho yanatosheleza in short-term prediction.

Unasema wezo wetu wkufikiria unatia wasiwasi, Tatizo la Watz ni kwamba mnafikiria sana, kila kitu hata kiwe kidogo vipi ni lazima mketi chini mkiongelee hadi vichoshe , mwishowe kielewana mnarudi kesho yake na hoja mpya nyengine, mwisho wa siku hakuna jmbo litafamywa.
Ndio maana hata baada ya kusema hayo yote eti tunashida ya kufikiria ikija kwa mapato mko nyuma kila siku, biashara ya ndege-nyuma, Bhandari - nyuma, uchukuzi, elimu bora --nyuma nyuma

 

[joto la jiwe]

Angalia unaweka wazi sasa vile haujui kila kith.
Ile prefabricated terminal (terminal 2) pekee iliongeza capacity ya 2.5Million mbali na marekebisho ya terminal 1A, hii ilifanya capacity ya jkia kupnda hadi 7.5Million!
Greenfield terminal ilikua inajengwa in phase io kwa mpigo mmoja na

Wewe nikikuambia akili yako ni ndogo unabisha, mimi nimetaja 2M, wewe umetaja 2.5M tatizo liko wapi?, wakati mimi point yangu ni kwamba, itakuwaje ongezeko la 2M au hao 2.5M liwe ni substitute ya 20M?, kama serikali ilikuwa makini ilipofikia hiyo idadi ya 20M hadi wakapitisha ujenzi wake, sasa ilikuwaje walipoongeza hiyo 2.5M waone hakuna sababu tena kujenga greenfield terminal?, au hiyo idadi ilifikiwa kisiasa na rushwa kama kawaida yenu?, nchi gani hiyo ambayo inafikia maamuzi makubwa kiasi hicho, then ghafla inayapindua?

 

[joto la jiwe]

considering that the Kenya SGR is even more economically viable as compared to your yet to be built SGR, im sorry but i cant start playing along, ill be a moron if i start comparing a mere BRT to a mega SGR project which is work on progress too.Ngong to Naivasha we are talking more than 50% done at the moment...

Interms of capital investment yes, Kenya SGR is a giant compare to BRT, but interms of revenue collection, Kenya SGR, will never compete with BRT, remember that when is complete BRT will carry 1M people per day, @650Tshs this give $250,000 per day, there is no any SGR, can make that money per day, even Tanzanian one which its capacity is more than twice that of Kenya, can't.

 

[Kafrican]

Wewe nikikuambia akili yako ni ndogo unabisha, mimi nimetaja 2M, wewe umetaja 2.5M tatizo liko wapi?, wakati mimi point yangu ni kwamba, itakuwaje ongezeko la 2M au hao 2.5M liwe ni substitute ya 20M?, kama serikali ilikuwa makini ilipofikia hiyo idadi ya 20M hadi wakapitisha ujenzi wake, sasa ilikuwaje walipoongeza hiyo 2.5M waone hakuna sababu tena kujenga greenfield terminal?, au hiyo idadi ilifikiwa kisiasa na rushwa kama kawaida yenu?, nchi gani hiyo ambayo inafikia maamuzi makubwa kiasi hicho, then ghafla inayapindua?

Soma vizuri wacha kukurupukwa, long term goal ya greenfield ilikua 20miliion, lakini short term goal ilikua ni 8. Million by 2018. Hio ilikua ni 2010, sababu ya ule moto wa 2013 na mengineyo ilisababisha capacity ya terminal 1a, 2 kufikisha capacity hadi 7.5million (capacity ambayo ilikua inafaa ijazwe na greenfield)
Demand ya 2015 ilikua ni 6.5m persengers ambao walikua tayari wameshatoshelezwa na ile terminal 1a upgrade na T2, 2016 bado capacity ya 7.5m ilikua inatosheleza demand, So it was realised that the upgrades were enough to meet the demands, and thus the greenfield was cancelled, it was then decided the old terminals 1c,1c,1d,1e should all be upgraded like 1a, this would increase jkia capacity to 18million by 2020 which is close to the 20million greenfield terminal but at a lesser cost.
But upgrading old things and making then look like they are new always come at a price, eventually you will need to replace it with a new one, that's why the land where the greenfield terminal was supposed to be will be left untouched, at some point in future we will go back to that project. Remember our current SGR was first mentioned in 1980 by Moi's government, the Lamu port too was mentioned in 1978 but it was decided then that upgrading mombasa port and the meter gauge rail was enough to serve kenya and the region, today both the Lamu port and SGR are back on the table again.
The jkia second runway too was to be done in 2006 somehow it didn't happen, now its necessary and its happening

 

[joto la jiwe]

KAA terminates Greenfield Terminal construction project at the JKIA

Mimi ninakuambia, ninyi wakenya ndiyo sababu hamuachi kupigana, hiyo ndiyo sababu iliyotolewa na authority ya Kenya kwanini waliachana na huo ujenzi, wewe unazungumza mengine, Raila alipokuja juu kutaka kujua kwanini serikali iliamua kusimamisha ujenzi, ndiyo Uhuru akawa anapaka rangi hii sababu iliyotolewa na mamlaka husika, lakini sababu ni hiyo hapo.

Lete ushahidi wowote ule unaothibitisha haya unayoyasema kwamba Capacity ya JKIA ni 8M. Ngoja nikufunze ili uachane na ujinga wako ulionao. JKIA kabla ya kuungua moto capacity yake ilikuwa ni 2.5M, lakini ilikuwa in overstretch hadi 6M, tofautisha capacity and over capacity, ni kama gari yenye ya 5tonnes kupakia mzigo wa 7tonnes, haibadilishi kusema hilo gari capacity yake ni 7tonnes, itabaki kuwa ni 5tonnes lakini inakuwa overstretch hadi 7tonnes. Baada ya moto kutokea, jengo lililojengwa lina uwezo wa 2.5M, ukijumlisha na ile capacity ya 2.5M it makes 5M. Real capacity ya JKIA hadi sasa ni 5M, ila ukijumlisha na hizo overstretch ndiyo utafika hiyo 7.5M, lakini internatinal hiyo overstretch kawaida haihesabiki, ni sawa na uwanja wa mpira wenye capacity ya 40,000 lakini watu wanaoingia wanazidi 45,000, juu utabadilisha capacity?.
Kama una ushahidi wowote wa kuonyesha kwamba capacity ya JKIA iliongezwa kabla ya kuungua moto, kww maana ya kuongeza uwezo wake, ninaomba unipe, ila neno overstretch halina maana ya kuongeza capacity, maana yake ni to work beyond its capacity.

 

[IamLee]

Interms of capital investment yes, Kenya SGR is a giant compare to BRT, but interms of revenue collection, Kenya SGR, will never compete with BRT, remember that when is complete BRT will carry 1M people per day, @650Tshs this give $250,000 per day, there is no any SGR, can make that money per day, even Tanzanian one which its capacity is more than twice that of Kenya, can't.

keep on dreaming

 

[joto la jiwe]

Soma vizuri wacha kukurupukwa, long term goal ya greenfield ilikua 20miliion, lakini short term goal ilikua ni 8. Million by 2018. Hio ilikua ni 2010, sababu ya ule moto wa 2013 na mengineyo ilisababisha capacity ya terminal 1a, 2 kufikisha capacity hadi 7.5million (capacity ambayo ilikua inafaa ijazwe na greenfield)
Demand ya 2015 ilikua ni 6.5m persengers ambao walikua tayari wameshatoshelezwa na ile terminal 1a upgrade na T2, 2016 bado capacity ya 7.5m ilikua inatosheleza demand, So it was realised that the upgrades were enough to meet the demands, and thus the greenfield was cancelled, it was then decided the old terminals 1c,1c,1d,1e should all be upgraded like 1a, this would increase jkia capacity to 18million by 2020 which is close to the 20million greenfield terminal but at a lesser cost.
But upgrading old things and making then look like they are new always come at a price, eventually you will need to replace it with a new one, that's why the land where the greenfield terminal was supposed to be will be left untouched, at some point in future we will go back to that project. Remember our current SGR was first mentioned in 1980 by Moi's government, the Lamu port too was mentioned in 1978 but it was decided then that upgrading mombasa port and the meter gauge rail was enough to serve kenya and the region, today both the Lamu port and SGR are back on the table again.
The jkia second runway too was to be done in 2006 somehow it didn't happen, now its necessary and its happening

Jomo Kenyatta International Airport - Wikipedia

Soma wikipedia uone jinsi inavyouchanganua kwa undani uwanja wenu na sababu za mradi wa greenfield terminal kushindikana, wewe unakuja na story za kijiweni tu

 

[joto la jiwe]

keep on dreaming

Muwe mnajifunza na kukubaliana na ukweli, numbers don't lie, you have to accept and move on, if you learn from your mistakes today, you will not make the same mistake tomorrow, unless you are a fool, but if you keep on denying the truth, expect the same mistake to occur next time

 

[Kafrican]

KAA terminates Greenfield Terminal construction project at the JKIA

Mimi ninakuambia, ninyi wakenya ndiyo sababu hamuachi kupigana, hiyo ndiyo sababu iliyotolewa na authority ya Kenya kwanini waliachana na huo ujenzi, wewe unazungumza mengine, Raila alipokuja juu kutaka kujua kwanini serikali iliamua kusimamisha ujenzi, ndiyo Uhuru akawa anapaka rangi hii sababu iliyotolewa na mamlaka husika, lakini sababu ni hiyo hapo.

Lete ushahidi wowote ule unaothibitisha haya unayoyasema kwamba Capacity ya JKIA ni 8M. Ngoja nikufunze ili uachane na ujinga wako ulionao. JKIA kabla ya kuungua moto capacity yake ilikuwa ni 2.5M, lakini ilikuwa in overstretch hadi 6M, tofautisha capacity and over capacity, ni kama gari yenye ya 5tonnes kupakia mzigo wa 7tonnes, haibadilishi kusema hilo gari capacity yake ni 7tonnes, itabaki kuwa ni 5tonnes lakini inakuwa overstretch hadi 7tonnes. Baada ya moto kutokea, jengo lililojengwa lina uwezo wa 2.5M, ukijumlisha na ile capacity ya 2.5M it makes 5M. Real capacity ya JKIA hadi sasa ni 5M, ila ukijumlisha na hizo overstretch ndiyo utafika hiyo 7.5M, lakini internatinal hiyo overstretch kawaida haihesabiki, ni sawa na uwanja wa mpira wenye capacity ya 40,000 lakini watu wanaoingia wanazidi 45,000, juu utabadilisha capacity?.
Kama una ushahidi wowote wa kuonyesha kwamba capacity ya JKIA iliongezwa kabla ya kuungua moto, kww maana ya kuongeza uwezo wake, ninaomba unipe, ila neno overstretch halina maana ya kuongeza capacity, maana yake ni to work beyond its capacity.

Jomo Kenyatta International Airport - Wikipedia

Soma wikipedia uone jinsi inavyouchanganua kwa undani uwanja wenu na sababu za mradi wa greenfield terminal kushindikana, wewe unakuja na story za kijiweni tu

huwa unavuta nini lakini, your ability to make up stuff from nothing is on another level.
Pia umepitia Wikipedia na kuchagua sehemu flani bila hata kuangalia vizuri...


Tafuta hii habari hapa ujisomee vizuri. Baada ya kupiga story nyingi zilizo ndotoni akilini mwako, these are the are the facts

The correct terms we are talking about is Capacity vs PAX (persengers who go through the airport)

Fact1: Jkia capacity is at 7.5m
Fact2: Jkia pax in 2014 was 6.5m
Fact3: As per the wikipedia article you provided, pax at jkia in 2016 was 7,039,137

 

[joto la jiwe]

huwa unavuta nini lakini, your ability to make up stuff from nothing is on another level.
Pia umepitia Wikipedia na kuchagua sehemu flani bila hata kuangalia vizuri...

Tafuta hii habari hapa ujisomee vizuri. Baada ya kupiga story nyingi zilizo ndotoni akilini mwako, these are the are the facts

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Huna lolote unalojua, badala ya kuleta sources za uhakika unaleta screenshots, anyway, ni matumaini yangu kuwa ukweli umeujua
1)Sababu za greenfield terminal kutojengwa ni kukosekana kwa pesa,
2)Capacity ya JKIA ni 5M, japo mwaka jana ilihudumia 7.8M passengers,
3)Uwezo wa uwanja (capacity)inakuwa planned wakati wa ujenzi, lakini idadi ya abiria waliohudumiwa inajulikana wakati wa matumizi, hivi ni vitu tofauti usivichanganye, uwanja unaweza kuwa na capacity kubwa, lakini ikawa inahudumia abiria wachache kutokana na trafic flow, uwanja wa JKIA una capacity ndogo(5M), lakini unahudumia abiria wengi.

Uache kuzungumza vitu ambavyo huna uhakika navyo wala huvijui.

 

[Kafrican]

Huna lolote unalojua, badala ya kuleta sources za uhakika unaleta screenshots, anyway, ni matumaini yangu kuwa ukweli umeujua
1)Sababu za greenfield terminal kutojengwa ni kukosekana kwa pesa,
2)Capacity ya JKIA ni 5M, japo mwaka jana ilihudumia 7.8M passengers,
3)Uwezo wa uwanja (capacity)inakuwa planned wakati wa ujenzi, lakini idadi ya abiria waliohudumiwa inajulikana wakati wa matumizi, hivi ni vitu tofauti usivichanganye, uwanja unaweza kuwa na capacity kubwa, lakini ikawa inahudumia abiria wachache kutokana na trafic flow, uwanja wa JKIA una capacity ndogo(5M), lakini unahudumia abiria wengi.

Uache kuzungumza vitu ambavyo huna uhakika navyo wala huvijui.

Hehe when someone starts to argue with reality, that's when you know wazimu is real.
If you google the screenshot heading you can find the article. But of course for sm1 who doesn't want to be intouch with reality they will avoid facts at any cost.

You are now just repeating the same rubish you have been spewing all day, it doesn't matter how many times you say the same thing, it still doesn't make it real

Initial jkia capacity = 2.5m
T1A capacity = 2.5m
T2 capacity = 2.5m

Total jkia capacity 7.5m that is the reality, take it or meza wembe it still wont change

 

[joto la jiwe]

Hehe when someone starts to argue with reality, that's when you know wazimu is real.
If you google the screenshot heading you can find the article. But of course for sm1 who doesn't want to be intouch with reality they will avoid facts at any cost.

You are now just repeating the same rubish you have been spewing all day, it doesn't matter how many times you say the same thing, it still doesn't make it real

Nilikuambia ninyi wakenya hamtoacha kupigana kwa sababu akili zenu ni ndogo sana kama za samaki, lete ushahidi kuonyesha mwaka gani upanuzi ulifanywa kuongeza kapacity kufikia hiyo unayosema, major expansion are only two, the one which was done in 1978 which increased capacity to 2.5M, and the last one after fire which increased capacity again of 2.5M, lete ushahidi wa upanuzi uliofikisha hiyo 7.5M, huna unalojua, subiri tunafungua new terminal yenye capacity ya 9M next September utakuj kuona tofauti kati ya capacity of airpot and amount of passenger which are passing.

Julius Nyerere International Airpot will have bigger capacity, but shall handle few passengers per year, while Jommo Kenyatta International Airport with capacity of 5M, shall have small capacity but big number of passengers per year which is 7.6M for the year 2016

 

[eliakeem]

huwa unavuta nini lakini, your ability to make up stuff from nothing is on another level.
Pia umepitia Wikipedia na kuchagua sehemu flani bila hata kuangalia vizuri...


Tafuta hii habari hapa ujisomee vizuri. Baada ya kupiga story nyingi zilizo ndotoni akilini mwako, these are the are the facts

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The correct terms we are talking about is Capacity vs PAX (persengers who go through the airport)

Fact1: Jkia capacity is at 7.5m
Fact2: Jkia pax in 2014 was 6.5m
Fact3: As per the wikipedia article you provided, pax at jkia in 2016 was 7,039,137

please site the credible authority.

 

[joto la jiwe]

please site the credible authority.

Atapata wapi credible sources, yeye ni domo kubwa tu, hana analojua zaidi ya kutaka kujipa matumaini, anashangaa mambo ya Kenya tunamfundisha sisi, yeye mwenyewe hana analojua zaidi ya kutaka kupika data kama kawaida yao

 

[Kafrican]

please site the credible authority.

kesho, when I have access to a computer I will bring you a link from the horses mouth KAA (kenya airports authority)

But that's not even necessary. If you carefully go through the wikipedia link that your drunk friend brought you will see that 2.5m is mentioned more than once.

First one is terminal 1a, second one is terminal 2 that's already 5m... Add that to the initial capacity of the airport plus smaller upgrades since the airport was launched
This is from the wikipedia link

Terminal 1a = 2.5m
Terminal 2 = 2.5m
These 2 terminals were both finished in 2015 alone

The previous jkia in the 70s plus subsequent upgrades (especially upgrading of terminal 1E had 2.5m capacity

That's 2.5 + 2.5 + 2.5 = 7.5m capacity