Hamza Mwapachu, Abdulwahid Sykes na Chief Michael Lukumbuzya

[Uncle Jei Jei]

Uncle...
Inawezekana ukaona kosa kuandika historia ya Waislam wa Tanganyika.
Ndiyo ubinadamu ulivyo, ''one man's meat is another man's poison.''

Mimi kwangu si kosa na ndiyo maana nikakujibu kuwa soma anuani ya
kitabu changu.

Inawezekana wewe hujui lakini kuna vitabu vingi tu vilivyoandika historia
na mengi ya Waislam wa Tanganyika.

Katika vitabu maarufu ni hiki cha Augustus Nimitz: Islam and Politics in
East Africa.

Kipo pia kitabu cha P van Bergen: Religion and Development in Tanzania.
Kipo kitabu kinachoeleza habari za Kanisa Katoliki cha John Sivalon: Kanisa
Katoliki na Siasa ya Tanzania Bara 1953 Hadi 1985.

Hapana ubaya kuandika historia kama niliyoandika mimi kwani ni jambo la
kawaida katika usomi.

Asikutishe mtu.
Hayo mengine sitoyagusa kwa kuwa unaandika kitu usichokijua.

Muulize Dr. Mkanachi kuhusu historia hii.
Wakati alipokuwa anaandika tasnifu yake alikuja kujadiliana na mimi.

Mengine itapendeza yatoke kinywani kwake.

Hao uliowataja wameandika historia ya dini na wamejipambanua hivyo, tofauti yako wewe umeandika historia ya dini Kisha unataka kutuaminisha kuwa ni historia ya kweli ya Tanganyika.

 

[Uncle Jei Jei]

Uncle...
Nashukuru umeileta Maji Maji hapa.

Sasa msome Mohamed Said anavyoandika kuhusu Maji Maji katika
kitabu cha Abdul Sykes:
''...many scholars before and after have either by omission or
commission ignored the Islamic factor in the political development
of colonial Tanganyika; beginning with Maji Maji War in 1905
during the German period, the labour movement in the late 1930s
and the struggle in 1950s during British colonialism...''

Mohamed Said anaendelea katika kitabu hicho:
''...when the Maji Maji War began in 1905 to try to oust Germans from
Tanganyika, the predominantly Christian areas in the south refused
to join the movement and actually fought alongside German forces
against the patriots.

This was because the uprising had begun in Muslim dominated areas
and had within it Muslim characteristics. Missionaries, being collaborators,
were taken as legitimate targets by Maji Maji fighters. As a result, African
Christians saw Maji Maji War as an uprising against Christianity. Maji Maji
movement was defeated and Germans committed atrocities against the
people and their leaders. This left a big scar in the minds of Muslims in
the south and the people in general, and hence the apolitical behaviour
of Christians in the south.''

Tunaweza kuanza mjadala wetu kutokea hapa.

Huo ni mtazamo wako na ndio maana unafanya rejea ya kitabu chako mwenyewe. Nikuhakikishie tu kwamba yeyeto mwenye mtazamo flani hawezi kushindwa kuandika na akawafurahisha kundi alilokusudia limsikilize hasa kundi la itikadi yako ambalo hupenda kumeza pasipo kuchambua japo kwa kutumia ulimi tu.

Hata wewe umetumia mbinu hiyo na kweli umewakamata hapo! Sababu wengi tunawafahamu walivyokuwa na uvivu wa kusoma hasa mambo yasiyo husu dini yao na watu wao. Ni wagumu sana kujifunza mambo pasipo kuhusisha dini.

 

[Mohamed Said]

Huo ni mtazamo wako na ndio maana unafanya rejea ya kitabu chako mwenyewe. Nikuhakikishie tu kwamba yeyeto mwenye mtazamo flani hawezi kushindwa kuandika na akawafurahisha kundi alilokusudia limsikilize hasa kundi la itikadi yako ambalo hupenda kumeza pasipo kuchambua japo kwa kutumia ulimi tu.

Hata wewe umetumia mbinu hiyo na kweli umewakamata hapo! Sababu wengi tunawafahamu walivyokuwa na uvivu wa kusoma hasa mambo yasiyo husu dini yao na watu wao. Ni wagumu sana kujifunza mambo pasipo kuhusisha dini.

Uncle...
Inaelekea huijui historia ya Maji Maji hiyo info niliyoweka ni
info ''common'' inafahamika na kila mtafiti.

Hebu soma hapo chini:
''...one needs only to read the letter written by Chief Songea bin Ruuf at the time when he was mobilising his people for war while at the same time trying to cement alliances with other chiefs in Southern Tanganyika and across River Ruvuma in Mozambique. This letter written to Sheikh and Sultan Mataka bin Hamin Massaninga reads:

''Sultan Songea bin Ruuf writes: To the Shaykh and Sultan Mataka bin Hamis Massaninga. Greetings, etc. I am sending you a letter through Kazembe. We have received an order from God that the Europeans must leave the country. We are in the process of fighting them here. I believe that we have long since been reconciled,[so] send me your children, so that we may make an alliance. I had wanted to send you some cattle as a gift, but am not able to do so, as the war which God desired is continuing. Send me a hundred riflemen, and support me in storming the Boma (Songea).

I am also sending you a flask of the Prophet Muhammad, which contains the means for conquering the Europeans. Have no doubt about it, it possessed great power. And when we have taken the Boma (Songea), we shall go on the stations on the Nyasa together, you and I. Now, let us forget our old quarrels.

This bottle, with a da’wa, has been sent by Chinyalanyala himself, the war leader. He also sends the container (kombe), and sends you many greetings.

If your men will come, then Chinyalanyala himself will come and will give you many of the holy things.

Hassan bin Isma’il greets you.
Many salutations,

Sultan Songea bin Ruuf.” [1]

Hii ndiyo hali ya kusini ilivyokuwa wakati wa Maji Maji.

[1] C.H. Becker, ‘Material for the Understanding Islam in German East Africa’, Tanzania Notes and Records, No. 68, February, 1968, p.58.

 

[Nguruvi3]

Nguruvi3,
Una hii kasoro ya kutengeneza kauli ukasema nimesema.
Naona vibaya sisi kusutana.

Mimi nilichokuambia ni kuwa ninakuweka katika blog yangu
ili watu wengine wakusome.

Sikusema kuwa nitaleta watu.
Mimi peke yangu nakumudu sihitaji usaidizi wa mtu yeyote.

Lakini ikiwa mtu kakusoma katika blog yangu na yeye akaja
kwenye mjadala na kujadili kiungwana mimi sioni kama upo
ubaya.

La ikiwa wewe hupendezewi unaweza ukaeleza hapa na hao
watokao kwangu wataacha In Shaallah.

Napendezwa sana , barza ni watu. Watumie lugha za stara tu hilo ndilo ombi.

Nilisharidhia mbona nikakuambia waje wageni tukae kitako tuyazungumze

 

[Mohamed Said]

Napendezwa sana , barza ni watu. Watumie lugha za stara tu hilo ndilo ombi.

Nilisharidhia mbona nikakuambia waje wageni tukae kitako tuyazungumze

Nguruvu3,
Kheri.

 

[THE BIG SHOW]

Mudeer...

Uwanja huu ni wako mudeer...

Manta hofuuu...sisi tupo tunazid fyonza ilm....

Rumble Mudeer Rumble...!

Float like a butterfly Sting like a bee...

Kwako wewe tunacho cha kujivuniaa...Wallahi thuma wallahi tunachoo...

Uncle...
Inawezekana ukaona kosa kuandika historia ya Waislam wa Tanganyika.
Ndiyo ubinadamu ulivyo, ''one man's meat is another man's poison.''

Mimi kwangu si kosa na ndiyo maana nikakujibu kuwa soma anuani ya
kitabu changu.

Inawezekana wewe hujui lakini kuna vitabu vingi tu vilivyoandika historia
na mengi ya Waislam wa Tanganyika.

Katika vitabu maarufu ni hiki cha Augustus Nimitz: Islam and Politics in
East Africa.

Kipo pia kitabu cha P van Bergen: Religion and Development in Tanzania.
Kipo kitabu kinachoeleza habari za Kanisa Katoliki cha John Sivalon: Kanisa
Katoliki na Siasa ya Tanzania Bara 1953 Hadi 1985.

Hapana ubaya kuandika historia kama niliyoandika mimi kwani ni jambo la
kawaida katika usomi.

Asikutishe mtu.
Hayo mengine sitoyagusa kwa kuwa unaandika kitu usichokijua.

Muulize Dr. Mkanachi kuhusu historia hii.
Wakati alipokuwa anaandika tasnifu yake alikuja kujadiliana na mimi.

Mengine itapendeza yatoke kinywani kwake.

 

[THE BIG SHOW]

Napendezwa sana , barza ni watu. Watumie lugha za stara tu hilo ndilo ombi.

Nilisharidhia mbona nikakuambia waje wageni tukae kitako tuyazungumze

Sisi waislam lugha za stara kwetu ni ibadaa...

Tukiingea lugha za stara tunapata thawabu kwa Allah haza wa jallah...

Nguruvi3 kukumbushia kuhusu ile adhma yako ya kuandika kitabu kuzungumzia historia hii ambayo wew unasema inapotoshwa siyo kukukebehi na kukupa maneno ya kejeli...hata siku moja..!

Kukumbusha utimize ahad iwe nongwa?...aaah wacha bana mambo yako banaaa...

We namna gan wewe....

Its three years now comrade...twakuuliza what happened?...unashindwa hata na checkbob yericko?teh teh teh...

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Harakati za ukombozi hazikuanzishwa na hao wazee wa Dar es Salaam, harakati za kudai uhuru zilianza tangu mkoloni anaingia Tanganyika!

Hapo ndo watu kama nyie mnao mshabikia mzee Mohammed mnaposhindwa kutumia utashi wenu!

Mapambano baina ya machifu na watemi wa kiafrika si ya kubeza! Kina Mkwawa, Abushiri, Bwana Heri, Chief Mirambo na wengine wengi wote hao ni wanaharakati wa kudai uhuru wa kujitawala!

Hakuna mwanahistoria yeyeto hapa Tanganyika anayebeza vita vya maji maji! Huko ndiko harakati zilikoanzia! Hivyo hao wazee wa Dar es Salam anaowazungumza Mzee watu si kwamba ndio waanzilishi wa kudai uhuru! Hapana, hilo hata Mohammed nadhani atakukatilia.

Nnahisi kama umekisoma kitabu cha Abdul Wahid Sykes. Maana unapita mulemule, kama hujakisoma basi utashangazwa kwa kuyakuta hayo uliyoyasema humo.

Nimekuja ku edit hii post, maana nnaona Alama Mohamed Said ameanza kukupa elimu bila khiyana kuhusu majimaji.

 

[Mwandwanga]

Nimekuja natoka Ulaya tena msomi, msomi ninakuja, nimetoka Ulaya nimesoma muda mfupi tu, jamaa hawa wa mjini Dar es Salaam kwa kweli
sijapata kuishi mjini, lakini jamaa hawa mara wakaniamini haraka
haraka sana. Wakaniamini haraka sana.

Katika muda wa miezi mitatu wakanichagua President wa African Association. Tanganyika African Association... Ndipo tukaanza sasa shughuli za kujaribu kuandika katiba mpya ya TAA kusudi tuipe madhumuni ya shahaba ya kuleta uhuru.

Mwaka uliofuata 1954 ndio tuka, kwa kweli mimi nilidhani tutachukua katiba tu wenzangu wakasema hapana, tukibadili katiba tubadili na jina

Tukahaingaika sana kupata jina na hao hao kina Abdul Sykes, jina lile hatukuligundua. Wao walikuwa wamelifikiria zamani wakina Abdul Sykes
hao. Walikuwa Burma alikuwa askari na kule waliwahi kufikiria
kuanzisha chama...

Kusema kweli wao waliwahi kufikiria kabisa Tanganyika African National Union.

Kwa hiyo wakati tunahangaika hangaika pale tuchukuwe jina gani tuchukue Tanganyika African Union wakasema hali itafanana na Kenya African Union. Watadhani nao ni Maumau. Tunataka kuanzisha Maumau yetu. Ndio wakina Abdul Sykes wakakumbuka jina lao walilokuwa wameliunda walipokuwa Burma, wakasema tuite Tanganyika African
National Union, ndio tukaanzisha.....

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Nilipoweka bandiko hili hapa chini nilifahamu nini kinafuata.

Hata kabla ya kubaini, Mohamed Said kanidokezea kidogo kwa kusema ataleta watu kutoka katika blog yake. Nikamwambi hewala na waje

Tatizo la watu wa blog kuwa wakali limeanzia hapa kama alivyoonyesha mkuu Mwandwanga. Na wamefika, mwenyewe kapumua sasa!
Hili bandiko mimi huliita bao 6

Huwachi vituko wewe?

Leo umewasahau kina Ritz, THE BIG SHOW na Spike Lee? Au unam miss kahtaan?

 

[Ngongo]

Mzee wetu ms waweza jibu maswali ya Nguruvi3 kabla atujaendelea na mnakasha?

Sasa wewe hapa unatafuta ugomvi buree,Ustaadhi Mohamed Said hana uwezo wa kujibu hoja kazoea kulisha makinda wasokuwa na uwezo wa kuchagua au chakula wanachopewa ikifika mahali watu kahoji kwa hoja nzito juu ya maandishi yake yenye utata mwanzo mwisho utimua mbio na sababu kedekede mara nilidarasisha chuo kikuu cha Lagos, akigeuka kushoto atakwambia hata Msikiti wa Manyema wanatambua kipaji chake na Sheikh Chaurembo anamtambua haya sasa na sisi tunataka kutambua uwezo wako maswali kiduchu tena kwa maandishi aliyoyaleta mwenyewe anakimbilia kwa wajukuu wa wapigania uhuru ebo kumbe huyu Ustaadhi mwepesi sana halafu anataka kumshusha Baba wa Taifa Mwl Nyerere kumlinganisha na msimamizi wa soko.

 

[THE BIG SHOW]

F.F...

Salaaam aleykum...

Nguruvi3 hana hata soni...hana hayaa...

Kwani yeye hajui popote alipo mwalimu wetu sisi tunaweka kambi?...

Chambilecho tunamuuliza kile kitabu chake alichokaahid three years ago kiko wapi?..anarusha ngumi hewanii...

Always tunamuambia kuwa yeye ni wa hum hum tuh...

Mudeer. Mohamed Said siyo size yake...

Huwachi vituko wewe?

Leo umewasahau kina Ritz, THE BIG SHOW na Spike Lee? Au unam miss kahtaan?

 

[kolorama]

Na hilo ndo kosa lako lilipo, nashukuru sana umekubali.

Kwa hiyo inabidi usiite historia ya ukweli ya Tanganyika kwasababu na wewe umefanya kosa lile lile ambalo unasema watu wa Kivukoni walifanya.

Labda utakuwa sahihi kama unaandika historia ya dini katika Tanganyika wakati wa ukoloni.

Historia ya nchi yenye watu wa aina mbalimbali, dini nyingi, makabila mengi unawezaje kuandika historia kwa mlengo wa dini halafu useme ndio historia ya kweli ya uhuru wa Tanganyika!?

Hakuna anayekataa kwamba hao wazee wa kiislam walishiriki harakati za ukombozi wa Taifa letu japo kweli nikili (na nimeshakufahisha hilo) kwa mara ya kwa niliwafahamu nikiwa chuo kikuu kutoka kwa Dr. Mkanachi! Lakini badala ya wewe kufanya marekebisho, umefanya yale yale tena huenda wewe umefanya kosa kubwa sana kwa kuandika "story" zako kwa mtazamo wa dini zaidi.

Kuna wapigania uhuru wengi sana walikuwepo, wenye itikadi tofauti tofauti za kidini, kuna waliokuwa na dini na wasio na dini. Kwanini uegemee dini flani!?

Je, akija mwingine akaegemea wasio na dini au dini tofauti na uliyoegemea wewe!? Nini kitatokea kwa hao wafuasi wenu!? Watoto wa dini hizo tofauti washike ipi na waache ipi!?

Ndio maana nasisitiza kusema na uendelee kulifahamu kwamba, mashabiki wako wataendelea kubaki wa itikadi yako kitu ambacho hatakuwa umeisaidia Jamii!! Hilo ni kosa kubwa sana ambalo hutakiwi kuendelea kulihubiri kwa nguvu zote kama unavyofanya.

Uncle Jei Jei Mudeer kakuambia ukweli kuwa kaandika mchango wa waislam katika harakati za uhuru. Kumbuka kuwa kati ya wale watu walokuja kuweka watu sawa kwa ajili ya ukoloni walikuwepu missionaries so kwa akili ya kawaida tu ni kwamba waislam lazima wawe mbele kwa mambo makuu mawili, moja dini na nchi yao. Ndo maana walifanya harakati mpaka misikitini kwani waliona wanaonewa kama watanganyika na kwa upande mwingine kama waislam. Wakati huo wapo wakristo ambao wanaonya waumini wao wasijihusishe na harakati hizo kwani wakiona wao mambo yao yako sawa kama wakristo.

 

[kolorama]

Uncle...
Nashukuru umeileta Maji Maji hapa.

Sasa msome Mohamed Said anavyoandika kuhusu Maji Maji katika
kitabu cha Abdul Sykes:
''...many scholars before and after have either by omission or
commission ignored the Islamic factor in the political development
of colonial Tanganyika; beginning with Maji Maji War in 1905
during the German period, the labour movement in the late 1930s
and the struggle in 1950s during British colonialism...''

Mohamed Said anaendelea katika kitabu hicho:
''...when the Maji Maji War began in 1905 to try to oust Germans from
Tanganyika, the predominantly Christian areas in the south refused
to join the movement and actually fought alongside German forces
against the patriots.

This was because the uprising had begun in Muslim dominated areas
and had within it Muslim characteristics. Missionaries, being collaborators,
were taken as legitimate targets by Maji Maji fighters. As a result, African
Christians saw Maji Maji War as an uprising against Christianity. Maji Maji
movement was defeated and Germans committed atrocities against the
people and their leaders. This left a big scar in the minds of Muslims in
the south and the people in general, and hence the apolitical behaviour
of Christians in the south.''

Tunaweza kuanza mjadala wetu kutokea hapa.

Maalim Mohamed Said assalam alaykum. Naweza kupata wapi copy ya kizungu ya kitabu chako? Please nisaidie maana maandishi yako kwangu ni burdani sana.

 

[kolorama]

Nguruvi3, mbona tena unaanza kujihami mapema hamna watu wowote wanaotoka kwenye blog ya Mzee Mohamed, hawa ni members wa JF tena wa muda mrefu wana haki ya kuja kwenye huu mnakasha. Sijui kama kuna tatizo lolote watu kufuatilia na kujifunza kutoka kwenu wajuvi wa historia ya Tanganyika.

Mkuu Carlos ulikuwepo mnakasha mmoja mrefu sana miaka mitatu nyuma. Mkuu Nguruvi3 na hao wote anaolalamikia walikuwepo kiukweli ulikuwa ni mtanange wa nguvu mpaka Yericko alikiri kuwa si mtoto wa Nyerere. Sasa hawa nawaita waarabu wa pemba sisi tupate darsa ndo muhim

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Sasa wewe hapa unatafuta ugomvi buree,Ustaadhi Mohamed Said hana uwezo wa kujibu hoja kazoea kulisha makinda wasokuwa na uwezo wa kuchagua au chakula wanachopewa ikifika mahali watu kahoji kwa hoja nzito juu ya maandishi yake yenye utata mwanzo mwisho utimua mbio na sababu kedekede mara nilidarasisha chuo kikuu cha Lagos, akigeuka kushoto atakwambia hata Msikiti wa Manyema wanatambua kipaji chake na Sheikh Chaurembo anamtambua haya sasa na sisi tunataka kutambua uwezo wako maswali kiduchu tena kwa maandishi aliyoyaleta mwenyewe anakimbilia kwa wajukuu wa wapigania uhuru ebo kumbe huyu Ustaadhi mwepesi sana halafu anataka kumshusha Baba wa Taifa Mwl Nyerere kumlinganisha na msimamizi wa soko.

Dah, umerudi bila aibu? Tunaomba tupe ilmu kuhusu Cecil Matola, sisi sote tukifikiri ni mwanamme tulipomsoma atajwapo, wewe jana ukatufahamisha kuwa ni "mwanamama". Nakusihi tupe ilmu kuhusu huyu mwanamama aliyekuwa mbele ya kamdanasi ya wanaume enzi hizo hadi kufikia kuwa Mwenyekiti.

Tunasubiri.

 

[Ngongo]

Dah, umerudi bila aibu? Tunaomba tupe ilmu kuhusu Cecil Matola, sisi sote tukifikiri ni mwanamme tulipomsoma atajwapo, wewe jana ukatufahamisha kuwa ni "mwanamama". Nakusihi tupe ilmu kuhusu huyu mwanamama aliyekuwa mbele ya kamdanasi ya wanaume enzi hizo hadi kufikia kuwa Mwenyekiti.

Tunasubiri.

Bibie FaizaFoxy nilitaka kuandika Mwalimu si mwanamama usikimbilie mambo madogo madogo ebo.

 

[wembeee]

Maalim Mohamed Said assalam alaykum. Naweza kupata wapi copy ya kizungu ya kitabu chako? Please nisaidie maana maandishi yako kwangu ni burdani sana.

Makinda wa maalim Mohamed mnatapatapa tu mzee wetu kashindwa kujibu hoja za mkuu Nguruvi3 hapo juu ya yye na mwapachu nani mrongo?

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Napendezwa sana , barza ni watu. Watumie lugha za stara tu hilo ndilo ombi.

Nilisharidhia mbona nikakuambia waje wageni tukae kitako tuyazungumze

Lugha za stara kama zile unazotumia wewe? Si ndiyo maana yake?

Naona juu huko ulianza kuomba poo na kuleta porojo eti za Alama Mohamed Said kuita watu!

Mimi nnakuitia hapa Mag3, Mzee Mwanakijiji, anaejiita Yericko Nyerere, Pasco and the likes, mkusanyane wote, mjadili hii historia na Alama Mohamed Said pekee, pia hamumuwezi hata chembe. Sana sana mtaanza lugha chafu tu.

Chambilecho, humu kwani tunapewa ilmu bila hiyana na nani mwengine zaidi ya Alama Mohamed Said?

Sisi tunafyonza ilmu tu, tofauti kubwa ni kuwa hao wanaotajwa ni wazee wetu tunaowajua amma wao amma watoto zao amma wajukuu zao.

Tunasoma na kupata ilmu na entertainment hususan pale unapokuja na maswali ya kebehi, huwa tunasubiri kwa hamu unavyofundwa bila khiyana na Alama Mohamed Said.

 

[Mohamed Said]

Maalim Mohamed Said assalam alaykum. Naweza kupata wapi copy ya kizungu ya kitabu chako? Please nisaidie maana maandishi yako kwangu ni burdani sana.

Kolorama,
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