Historia ya Uhuru isimuliwavyo na Mohammed Said yakosolewa

[Mohamed Said]

Nikusahihishe kwanza. Historia haina mwenza. Kuna historia kamili au isiyokamilika. Historia 'rasmi' siyo lazima isiwe historia sahihi kwani rasmi yaweza kuwa ni historia sahihi lakini haijakamilika. Mtu akisema kuwa alipotoka Ubungo kwenda Kariakoo alipata maeneo ya Urafiki, Manzese na Magomeni halafu akaenda zake hadi Kariakoo anaweza kuwa ameelezea kitu sahihi kabisa na mtu wa kumwelewa atakuwa amemwelewa. Lakini akisema kuwa ndio ametaja sehemu zote alizopitia kwa hakiki siyo kamili kwani kuna maeneo mengine ambayo ameyaruka na hajatuelezea kama wakati anafanya hivyo alichepukia pembeni. Lakini kwamba ametuambia njia aliyoipitia kutoka Ubungo basi kwa kiasi kikubwa tutamwelewa.

Historia ambayo wengi wetu tumejifunza imetaja watu wengi sana na kinyume na unavyodai hakuna kitabu chochota kinachotumika katika shule za Tanzania (iwe msingi, sekondari au vyuo vikuu) ambayo inatumia kitabu 'rasmi' ambacho kinaelezea historia kuwa ya kupigania uhuru ilianzia na Nyerere mwaka 1954. HAKUNA KITABU HICHO.

Sasa uzuri wa historia ni kuwa ni somo ambalo linaweza kuongezewa taarifa zaidi ili kulifanya kuwa kamili zaidi na kuwasaidia watu kujua zaidi na zaidi. Nilipoagiza kitabu chako nilitaarajia kusoma historia yetu ya wazee wetu na mchango wa wale ambao walikuwa wamesahauliwa. Nilipokisoma taratibu nilianza kuona pattern ya ajabu ukitokea.

a. Kila mwenye jina la Kiislamu ulimuita Muislamu bila ya kujali kama alikuwa anaamini yale yale au hata kama alikuwa anashika dini. Wengine ambao unawataja kuwa ni "waislamu" kwa kweli kabisa walikuwa ni wenye imani za jadi zilichanganywa na Uislamu ndani yake na hata wengine wanaweza kabisa kuwa walikuwa ni washirikina! Lakini hili kwako si hoja kwani hoja kwako ilikuwa ni 'majina ya kiislamu".

b. Baada ya muda 'Waislamu' wakawa ni wale tu waliokuwa kwenye jumuiya fulani fulani watu wenye majina ya Kiislamu lakini hawakuwa kwenye jumuiya hiyo hawa ukaanza kuwapa makundi mengine lakini ukaanza kuwatofautisha kwa kuwataja kwa mahali wanakotoka.

c. Unapofika mwaka 1963 unaanza kuwagawa "Waislamu" siyo kwa imani zao au la bali kwa kuangalia waliokuwa ndani ya TANU na wale waliokuwa nje ya TANU. Waliokuwa ndani ya TANU wakaanza kuangaliwa kwa shuku na ilipofika wakati wa kuvunjwa EAMWS Waislamu wakawa ni wale tu waliohusiana na EAMWS lakini wale waliobakia ndani ya TANU na wakaunda BAKWATA hawakuwa WAislamu japo HAKUNA USHAHIDI hata mmoja kuwa waliopiga kura kule Iringa kulikuwepo na Wakristu, Maaskofu au Wachungaji. Kama kigezo chako cha kwanza cha "majina" kuwa ndio Uislamu ingetosha kabisa kufanya BAKWATA ni halali kwani wote walioanzisha walikuwa ni wenye majina ya Kiislamu!

d. Lakini kwa vile lengo lako lilikuwa kuandika habari za "Waislamu" ambao walikuwa wanakubaliana na wazee wako au ambao waliamini wameonewa basi ikabidi uhakikishe kabisa kuwa huandiki habari za Watu wengine ambao hawakuwa Waislamu japo michango yao labda ililinga na wengine hata ilizidi ya wale uliowaita 'wazee wako'. Lakini hukufanya hivi tu. Ukaamua pia kuwafuta Waislamu wengine wote ambao walikuwa hawakubaliana na wazee wako na kuwaweka kwenye footnotes za Kitabu au mwisho wa kitabu.

Sasa kumbe wakati unawatuhumu wengine kuwa wanafundisha historia "rasmi" ambayo imepotosha watu walitarajia kuwa na wewe ungeendika a more comprehensive history of Tanzania's early days. La hasha. Na wewe ukaenda kuandika historia yako 'rasmi' ambayo haikuwa na lengo jingine lolote bali kuonesha ukuu wa Waislamu katika harakati za kupigania uhuru na kuonesha kuwa wao ndio walitaka kuwa huru zaidi kuliko jamii nyingine. Kumbuka ukajikuta unatukuza watu fulani fulani tu na siyo ukweli wa historia. Wakati unamtuhumu Nyerere kupindisha historia kuwa alijipendelea na wewe mwenyewe ukafanya kile kile cha kupindisha historia na kuwapendelea Wazee wako. Wakati unamlaumu Nyerere kuandika historia ambayo imewaweka watu wengine pembeni - japo hakuna ushahidi wa Nyerere kuhusika kuandika historia - wewe mwenyewe ukaandika historia ukiwaacha watu wengine pembeni.

Kama vile wale wengine unadai walidai kuwa historia yao ilikuwa rasmi lakini haijakamilika wewe mwenyewe unadai sasa historia hii ya kwako ni 'kweli tupu' wakati nayo haijakamilika. Kubali yafuatayo kwanza:

a. HIstoria yako si kamili na haiwezi kuwa historia rasmi
b. Historia yako imeandikwa kwa ajili ya kuenzi wazee wako lakini siyo kwa ajili ya kuonesha ukweli wa historia
c. Historia yako imetokana zaidi na hisia kuliko historia.
d. Historia yako imelengwa katika kupotosha mchango wa Wazee wetu ili kuonesha upande mmoja wa wazee wetu (Waislamu wa Gerezani) walikuwa ndio magwiji wa uhuru wa Tanganyika na watu wengine wote wakiwa ni watu walionufaika na hao wazee wa Gerezani.
e. Historia yako ina lengo la kukana nafasi ya pekee (unique role) ya Nyerere kama Baba wa Taifa (hili jina hakuanza kuitwa baada ya kustaafu, upo ushahidi wa Kambona kumuita Nyerere "baba wa Taifa" katikati ya 1960s). Wazee wa Dar-es-Salaam walitambua nafasi hiyo ya Nyerere, waliiheshimu na waliishi naye katika uhusiano wa kuamianiana (patnership of trust).
f. HIstoria yako haitaki kukubali ukweli kwamba Nyerere kama Rais alikuwa na wajibu kwa Watanganyika wote na asingeweza katika dhamira safi kutoa upendeleo wa pekee kwa wazee fulani kana kwamba wazee wengine hawakushiriki. Kikundi cha wazee wanaomlalamikia Nyerere leo hii ni wale ambao walitarajia kuwa wangepata nafasi fulani au upendeleo fulani (Nyerere aliligusia hili katika hotuba yake ile ya 1962).

Kubali haya kwanza ili tuweze kusonga mbele.

MM,

Hapo chini ni kutoka mada niliyotoa Zentrum Moderner Orient (ZMO), Berlin miezi michache iliyopita:

History in Revision​

Muslims are now organising nationwide mass rallies which openly and inlive broadcasts denounce the church, criticise the government and church agentswithin the ruling party Chama Cha Mapinduzi (CCM) and the Parliament for oppressingMuslims. Seemingly derogatory words like "pandikizi" (singular) and"mapandikizi" (plural) meaning "turncoats;" or the new coined word "MfumoKristo" roughly meaning "Christian dominance" are now part of the Muslim and Swahilivocabulary. These analogies are used freely in the Muslim media and amongMuslims in every day conversation. But what usually thrills Muslims and utterlysignificant showing that times have changed is when in the rallies and innormal discussion Muslims refer to Nyerere hitherto known respectfully as "Babawa Taifa" as "Baba wa Kanisa," meaning "Church Elder."[1] The moveby the Catholic Church to make him a saint has not helped matters. More so itproves all the allegations levelled against Nyerere that he never was anationalist but a Catholic zealot. Respect and love which Muslims once had forNyerere has been completely wiped out. The new generation of Muslims no longerbelieve in the official history of TANU and the propaganda that it was Nyererewho single handed defeated the British. Muslims instead are honouring theforgotten heroes of independence movement and in so doing invoking emotionsparticularly in the new generation to stand up against oppression as theirforefathers had done against Germans and the British. Muslim heroes of the MajiMaji War like Suleiman Mamba, Ali Songea Mbano,[2] andMuslim nationalists like Abdulwahid [3] and AllySykes,[4] DossaAziz, Sheikh Hassan bin Amir,[5] SheikhSuleiman Takadir, Sheikh Yusuf Badi, Bibi Titi Mohamed,[6] BibiTatu bint Mzee, Bilali Rehani Waikela,[7] AliMigeyo[8] andothers are now part of nationalist history which was suppressed for many years.[9] Muslimsare demanding the restoration of their history and honour as true liberators ofTanganyika. This is unprecedented. One can only speculate and wonder where thiswould lead to. Can we identify thisphenomenon as corrective and revision of history or is it a lesson of anarchyin recording history?[10] Theresult of all this is that the Church has been made to stand naked. That theChurch did not play any role during Maji Maji[11] orduring the struggle against the British or that it has worked hand in hand withthe government to sabotage Islam and Muslims is now common knowledge.

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[1] The late Prof. Haroub Othman after reading Sheikh Ali Muhsin's book Conflict and Harmony in Zanzibar and thewriter's book The Life and Times of Abdulwahid Sykes 1924 -1968 The Untold Story of the Muslim Struggle Against British Colonialismin Tanganyika, Minerva Press, London 1998 andhaving come across hitherto unknown information on Nyerere was devastatedbecause he was a great admirer of Nyerere as a patriot and a nationalist. Thetwo books had painted him differently. Prof. Haroub confronted Nyerere and toldhim that the allegations in those two works have tarnished his image and headvised him to respond to them. Nyerere never did. Christian lecturers at Dares Salaam University are discouraging students from making references to thosetwo books. Dr. Harith Ghassany's book KwaheriUkoloni Kwaheri Uhuru, has also come up with more information on Nyererehitherto unknown in the Zanzibar Revolution and the bloodbath which followed.
[2] In all historical references to Maji Maji War hero and Chief of WangoniAli Songea Mbano, his Muslim name "Ali" would be omitted and he would bereferred to as Songea Mbano.
[3] MohamedSaid, The Life and Times of AbdulwahidSykes (1924 –1968), The Untold Story of the Muslim StruggleAgainst British Colonialism in Tanganyika Minerva Publishers, London, 1998.
[4] Mohamed Said, Broken Dreams, TheLife of Ally Kleist Sykes, Phoenix Publishers, Nairobi 2011 (Forthcoming).
[5] Issa Ziddy, Sheikh Hassan bin Ameir (1880-1979). Also See Mohamed Said, "Sheikh Hassan bin Ameir -The Moving Spirit of Muslim Emancipation in Tanganyika (1950 – 1968)" (Paperpresented at Youth Camp Organised by Zanzibar University, World Assembly ofMuslim Youth (WAMY) and Tanzania Muslim Students Association (TAMSA) 27[SUP]th[/SUP]February – 4[SUP]th[/SUP] March 2004.
[6] Bibi Titi was recruited into TANU by Schneider Abdillah Plantan andbegan to mobilize people particularly women to join the party even before hecame to know Nyerere.
[7] Bilali Rehani Waikela one of the TANU founder members in WesternProvince in 1955 and Regional Secretary of the East African Muslim WelfareSociety (EAMWS) was detained by Nyerere in 1964 for "mixing religion andpolitics." His personal papers were of great help in understanding the EAMWScrisis of 1968 and the reasons why Nyerere detained prominent sheikhs andbanned the society in 1968. A documentary of his political life has been madeand although not officially recognized as a patriot Muslims now consider him asone of the heroes of the independence movement. For more information seeMohamed Said, "In Praise of Ancestors," AfricaEvents (London) March/April 1977.
[8] G. Mutahaba, Portrait of aNationalist: The Life of Ali Migeyo, East African Publishing House, 1969.
[9]Maji Maji Museum in Songea which has been greatlydesecrated removing all signs of Muslim symbols during the Maji Maji War withGermans. The Maji Maji Museum at Peramiho under the Catholic Church has closedits doors to young Muslims for fear of criticism for distorting history. AllMuslim symbols in Maji Maji War against Germans have been obliterated in theMaji Maji Museum.
[10] A children's bookauthored by the current writer, Torch onKilimanjaro, Oxford University Press, Nairobi, 2007 has been blacklistedand cannot be included as a reader in schools because it contravenes the officialhistory.
[11] Yusuf Halimoja, Historia ya Masasi,East African Literature Bureau, Nairobi, 1977 pp 163 175 gives a narration howChristians fought alongside Gerrmans during Maji Maji. Also see P. GeroldRupper, OSB, Pugu Hadi Peramiho: Miaka100 wa Wamishionari Wabenediktini Katika Tanzania, BenedictinePublications, Ndanda Peramiho, 1980, pp 31- 42.

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

MM,

Hapo chini ni kutoka mada niliyotoa Zentrum Moderner Orient (ZMO), Berlin miezi michache iliyopita:

History in Revision​

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Muslims are now organising nationwide mass rallies which openly and inlive broadcasts denounce the church, criticise the government and church agents within the ruling party Chama Cha Mapinduzi (CCM) and the Parliament for oppressingMuslims.

Kwa kweli mnawaonea wenzenu tu kwa kuwalisha masimulizi ya Uongo. Waislamu wako ndani ya serikali, wako Bungeni, wako wanafurahia maisha katika kila nafasi nchini. Hakuna nafasi yoyote ya ajira ambayo Waislamu huwezi kuwakuta wakiendelea kuijenga nchi yao kwa amani na ushirikiano na ndugu zao. Wapo ma CEO, Majenerali, Makamishna, Maprofesa, n.k Wanaweza kusihi popote na wakifanya kazi zao bila kujihisi kuwa wako oppressed. Mnaowapata ambao hawajui ndio wanaoamini lakini Watanzania hawako oppressed na Kanisa wala na Wakristu. Waislamu wa Tanzania kama walivyo Wapagani na Wakristu wanakandamizwa na mfumo wa Ufisadi ambao umejengwa na ambao watumishi wake ni watu wenye imani mbalimbali hata wenye kumuamini shetani!

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eemingly derogatory words like “pandikizi” (singular) and“mapandikizi” (plural) meaning “turncoats;” or the new coined word “MfumoKristo” roughly meaning “Christian dominance” are now part of the Muslim and Swahilivocabulary. These analogies are used freely in the Muslim media and amongMuslims in every day conversation.

Yeah of course mtu akitaka hadithi yake inoge lazima uweke na manjonjo humo ndani. Kuna watu walikuwa wakisimulia hadithi hadi watu wanashikwa na midadi. Na nakuambia hujakaa na wazee wakakupigia hadithi utashangaa inavyonogeshwa na hakuna hadithi tamu kama ambayo imewekwa wimbo wa kibwagizo mle ndani. Ndivyo mnavyowafanyia wenzenu hivyo. Mmewapa kibwagizo cha "mfumo Kristu" na wao wanadakia kama watu wanaodakia wimbo ule wa utotoni "Watoto wangu eh!?"...

But what usually thrills Muslims and utterlysignificant showing that times have changed is when in the rallies and innormal discussion Muslims refer to Nyerere hitherto known respectfully as “Babawa Taifa” as “Baba wa Kanisa,” meaning “Church Elder.”

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https://www.jamiiforums.com/#_ftn1

Hao wanaomuita Nyerere Baba wa Kanisa hawajui tu kuwa wanampa hadhi kubwa sana katika historia ya Kanisa Katoliki. Vyeo vya Baba wa Kanisa hakuna mtu yeyote ambaye amepewa kwa karibu miaka 1500 ya Historia ya Kanisa. Kwa hiyo Waislamu wanaomuita Nyerere Baba wa Kanisa wanamkuza kuliko anavyostahili.

The moveby the Catholic Church to make him a saint has not helped matters. More so itproves all the allegations levelled against Nyerere that he never was anationalist but a Catholic zealot.

Hili nalo ni yale yale ambayo kama watu hawajui ni bora wajifunze kidogo. Nyerere kupewa Uanaheri na baadaye kutangazwa Mtakatifu hakuhusiani na yeye kuwa Rais. Siyo zawadi ambayo mtu anapewa na Kanisa kwa utumishi wake kwa Kanisa! Hili nalo kwa wasomi wangejifunza tu na uzuri wa google siku hizi ipo. Unaweza kuandika neno "canonization process" halafu uone kama huo mchakato unajali kama mtu ni Rais, maskini, tajiri, msomi au nini.

Respect and love which Muslims once had forNyerere has been completely wiped out.

Tukisema lengo lako ni kumdunisha Nyerere hutaki. Unathutu kusema in a hyperbole kuwa heshima na mapenzi ambayo Waislamu walikuwa nayo 'yameondolewa kabisa". Hii ina maana hata ya kwako! Huna heshima wala mapenzi ya aina yoyote kwa Nyerere na unataka Waislamu wengine waamini hivyo. Bahati nzuri Wapo Waislamu kwa mamilioni ambao wanampenda Nyerere na kumheshimu na wamezidi kumpenda sana sasa hivi kwa sababu wamejua ni kwa namna gani walijaliwa kuwa naye kama kiongozi wa Taifa lao. Kikundi kidogo cha Waislamu waliokuwa na udini na waliomchukia Nyerere tangu miaka ya mwanzo ya 1950s ambao sasa wamewaachia wajukuu wao hiyo chuki bado kipo na sidhani kama kitaisha hivi hivi kwani bila ya chuki dhidi ya Nyerere kizazi hicho kitasimamia wapi au nini?

The new generation of Muslims no longerbelieve in the official history of TANU and the propaganda that it was Nyererewho single handed defeated the British.

Once again, HAKUNA kitabu chochote cha historia rasmi ambacho kinafundisha au hata kinaweza kuthubutu kufundisha kuwa Nyerere ndiye "single handedly defeated the British". Nyerere mwenyewe hakuwahi kudai hivyo, hakuna kitabu chenye kauli hiyo na ushahidi wa historia unaonesha wazi kuwa Nyerere hakuongoza harakati za kuwang'oa Waingereza peke yake. HAKUNA KITABU KAMA HICHO.

Muslims instead are honouring theforgotten heroes of independence movement and in so doing invoking emotionsparticularly in the new generation to stand up against oppression as theirforefathers had done against Germans and the British.

Here we go again! Hujaandika kuhusu "the forgotten heroes of Indepence Movement". Umeandika kuhusu wanaharakati Waislamu na wengine wote ukawaacha (you also forgot them!). How can one trying to remember the 'forgotten' choose so purposely to forget some of which he vowed to remember?

Muslim heroes of the MajiMaji War like Suleiman Mamba, Ali Songea Mbano,

[2] andMuslim nationalists like Abdulwahid [3] and AllySykes,[4] DossaAziz, Sheikh Hassan bin Amir,[5] SheikhSuleiman Takadir, Sheikh Yusuf Badi, Bibi Titi Mohamed,[6] BibiTatu bint Mzee, Bilali Rehani Waikela,[7] AliMigeyo[8] andothers are now part of nationalist history which was suppressed for many years.[9]

Muslimsare demanding the restoration of their history and honour as true liberators ofTanganyika. This is unprecedented.

Ndio tatizo hilo.. ukawaangalia wale Waislamu tu huku ukidai ni "the forgotten heroes". Na Uislamu hapa unaangalia kwa majina tu.

One can only speculate and wonder where thiswould lead to. Can we identify thisphenomenon as corrective and revision of history or is it a lesson of anarchyin recording history?

[10] Theresult of all this is that the Church has been made to stand naked.

Probably right.. but are you sure it stood naked. Je swali hili linaulizwa kuhusu taasisi nyingine za kidini wakati wa kukomesha utumwa tuone kama nazo zinaweza kuachwa watupu? Uzuri mmoja wa Kanisa Katoliki kwenye haya mambo ya historia ni kuwa halina hofu ya historia yake. Kwa miaka 2000 historia ya Kanisa Katoliki imejaa mazuri na maovu mengi tu. Lakini ni historia ambayo haitaji kurembewa.

That theChurch did not play any role during Maji Maji

[11] orduring the struggle against the British or that it has worked hand in hand withthe government to sabotage Islam and Muslims is now common knowledge.

Japo hili linaweza kuonekana ni jambo la kina sanalakini ukiliangalia kwa karibu halina kina hicho. Ni lazima ujue mafundisho ya Kanisa ya wakati ule yalikuwaje kwenye suala la mambo ya vita. Lakini vile vile unashindwa kukiri nafasi ya kanisa katika kuponya maeneo ambayo yalikuwa yameharibiwa na Wajerumani na kutoa huduma kwa majeruhi ya vita. Ni kweli yawezekana Kanisa halikufanya mengi (sijui lingefanya nini hasa sijui maana kule Ulaya nako Kanisa linalaumiwa kwa hivi hivi) lakini kwa hakika limefanya mengi mara baada ya vita hiyo na ile ya kwanza ya dunia na ya pili ya dunia.

 

[Mag3]

Mwanakijiji, huyo Mohamed Said hana tofauti na huyu hapa kwa jina Khatib M. Rajab al-Zinjibari, naye adai alifanya utafiti na anatoa historia ya kweli.

It is known that with the exception of the lates Sheikh Sulayman bin Takadir, Sheikh Hassan bin Ameir al-Shirazy and Sheikh Zubeir Mtemvu, the Muslims in Tanganyika overwhelmingly rejected their own All-Muslim National Union of Tanganyika (AMNUT) to defend national unity under TANU whose president was Nyerere.

These Islamists tried to impress their fellow Muslims that Christians, even though they were their fellow Tanganyikans, had a deep-seated hatred and enmity towards Muslims and that they would never treat Muslims with fairness and justice once they control political power. They insisted that after independence, educational imbalance would never be redressed and the positions of Muslims in education and other social areas would not improve significantly.

Because of their stand, Sheikh Sulayman bin Takadir was expelled from his then Chairmanship of Elders' Council of TANU, while Sheikh Zubeir bin Mtevu formed the African National Union (ANC), in opposition to TANU under a Christian leadership of Nyerere.
Ironically, the Churches in Tanganyika rejected TANU, twice in 1958 at Sumbawanga and in 1965 at Mbulu. They were scheming hand in glove with the British colonial government which groomed Nyerere to be the first president in Tanganyika after British.
After independence under Nyerere, Tanzanian Christians are reaping what they did not plant but are enjoying the benefits of every sector cemented by Christian Church Movement (CCM) supported by the Western nations.

Nyerere ruled his country for the betterment of clandestine Catholic Church Movement (CCM), in Tanzania and Muslims in this country were the first in the world who contributed money to the Catholic secessionist state of Biafra in Nigeria to fight against their fellow Muslims in Nigeria, the most populous Muslim nation in Africa. The Catholic Church Movement in Biafra demanded to secede to rid themselves in what they called "a calamitous slavery in an ocean of Muslims."

In contrary, a number of Muslim troops from Zanzibar were disproportionately killed during the Nyerere's invasion of Uganda in 1979 which toppled a Muslim ruler, Iddi Amin and re-installed Nyerere's old friend, Milton Obote, a Christian who supported Nyerere for the creation of Tanzania in collaboration with the Central Inteligence Agency (CIA) whose director was George Bush, later the former US President.

Their huge Christian Churches as well as many seminaries and proliferation of foreign priests and sisters in Tanzanian Churches, is a firm evidence that Christian organizations in Tanzania are affiliated with and used by foreign countries, because they can not through their local donation alone to carry out such activities and finance the lavish-style of their Church leaders.
All the Churches and monasteries in Tanzania are the property of the Western nations, from where they receive their orders and budgets for evangelism. For instance;

• The Tanzanian Catholic Church is the property of Italians, Portuguese, Spaniards, Belgians and French, the Lutheran Church is the property of Germans and Dutch, the architect of the apartheid in South Africa.
• The Anglican Church is the property of the British, the Moravian Church is the property of the Nordic countries,
• The Church of Pentecostal Assemblies of God, Seventh Day Adventists and African Inland Mission, among others are the properties of the United States.

Further evidence of their affiliation is that all the Churches in developing countries, including Tanzania are referred to as "provinces" meaning that they are a sort of institutional chapters, and that their highest leadership is from the Western countries instead of host countries.
The proliferation of Western Churches in Tanzania, led to the formation of many organizations such as;

• The Tanzania Episcopal Conference (TEC), the Catholic Secretariat representing the largest Christian denomination;
• The Evangelical Lutheran Church in Tanzania (ELCT), representing the non-Catholic denomination;
• The Christian Council of Tanzania (CCT), comprising of Protestant Missionary Societies, the Office of the Anglican Archbishops, the Office of the Archbishop of the Greek Orthodox Church and the National Spiritual Assembly of the Bahais, among others.

The Tanzanian Churches are affiliated either with World Council of Churches or Lutheran World Federation. In contrast, the Muslims in Tanzania are marginalized and they are not allowed to be affiliated with any global Muslim organization, whether the Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC) or the Islamic Organization of Africa (IOA), in the gist that Tanzania is a secular state, despite the fact that secularism is a Christian ethos of governance (Matthew 22:21) and mimicked from the Western nations like the Unites States.

Ironically, that Tanzania is a member of the Commonwealth, whose chief should always be the head of the Anglican Church of England, the former colonial ruler before the ascendancy of Nyerere in Zanzibar and Tanganyika.

Mchochezi Mohamed Said hayuko peke yake, wako wengi kama huyo hapo juu na wimbo wao ni huo huo Nyerere, Kanisa na MfumoKristo. Ukitaka kusoma zaidi tembelea hapa;

Muslim Population

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Hawa watu ni hatari kweli kweli kwa usalama wa nchi na kuna watu wanawasikiliza na kuamini hizo mada zao za kichochezi !

 

[WildCard]

Wakristo wa Marekani na Ulaya wanampenda sana Mzee Mohamed. Wanamsoma sana. Wanamwalika kwenye makongamano na warsha mbalimbali. Wakristo hawa wa ughaibuni wanafurahia jinsi Mzee Mohamed anavyombananga Mwalimu, mkristo mwenzao. Histohisia hii ya Mzee Mohamed iendelee kukubalika huko Marekani na kwingineko. Wazungu wako mbali sana kwa "haki" za binadamu.

 

[WildCard]

Mag3,
Huyo naye kaandika kitabu? Nilichokuwa sikifahamu ni kuwa watu wanaweza kuthubutu kuandika historia ya nchi kwa kuongozwa na hisia tu.

 

[Mag3]

Mag3,
Huyo naye kaandika kitabu? Nilichokuwa sikifahamu ni kuwa watu wanaweza kuthubutu kuandika historia ya nchi kwa kuongozwa na hisia tu.

WildCard, hawa watu nia yao hasa si kuandika historia kwa sababu historia ya kweli haitetereki na inatakiwa ijitetee yenyewe inapokosolewa kwa facts na si uwongo na porojo kama za huyu jamaa Mohamed Said. Binafsi kwa upande mwingine nashukuru sana huu mnakasha umeletwa JF kwani hapa pumba na mchele huchambuliwa kinyume na vijiwe walivyovizoea hawa wachochezi. Huu umbeya wao wamekuwa wakiueneza sehemu mbali mbali bila kuwekwa kiti moto na sasa ona anavyojichanganya Mohamed Said kila anapobanwa, mara aje na hadithi ndeefu ya mjomba, baba mdogo, baba mkubwa...yaani mradi apate pa kutokea.

Nina hakika mtu yeyote akipitia huu mnakasha toka mwanzo na kutafakari yaliyomo bila kuingiza hisia za kidini, hatapata taabu kutambua nia ya Mohamed Said ya kupandikiza mbegu ya chuki miongoni mwa Watanzania kwa mgongo wa dini. Mimi namhakikishia tu jambo moja akae akijua kuwa hayo malengo yake machafu hayatafanikiwa na histohisia yake itabaki hivyo hivyo kama ilivyo, hadithi na simulizi za wazee wake wa Gerezani.

 

[Barubaru]

WildCard, hawa watu nia yao hasa si kuandika historia kwa sababu historia ya kweli haitetereki na inatakiwa ijitetee yenyewe inapokosolewa kwa facts na si uwongo na porojo kama za huyu jamaa Mohamed Said. Binafsi kwa upande mwingine nashukuru sana huu mnakasha umeletwa JF kwani hapa pumba na mchele huchambuliwa kinyume na vijiwe walivyovizoea hawa wachochezi. Huu umbeya wao wamekuwa wakiueneza sehemu mbali mbali bila kuwekwa kiti moto na sasa ona anavyojichanganya Mohamed Said kila anapobanwa, mara aje na hadithi ndeefu ya mjomba, baba mdogo, baba mkubwa...yaani mradi apate pa kutokea.

Nina hakika mtu yeyote akipitia huu mnakasha toka mwanzo na kutafakari yaliyomo bila kuingiza hisia za kidini, hatapata taabu kutambua nia ya Mohamed Said ya kupandikiza mbegu ya chuki miongoni mwa Watanzania kwa mgongo wa dini. Mimi namhakikishia tu jambo moja akae akijua kuwa hayo malengo yake machafu hayatafanikiwa na histohisia yake itabaki hivyo hivyo kama ilivyo, hadithi na simulizi za wazee wake wa Gerezani.

Nakumbuka maneno ya Mkapa kuwa wengi ya wa Tz ni wavivu wa kufikiri na wazembe wa kuandika.

Sasa kama mnapinga alichoandika Mohamed Said kwenye kitabu au hata papers zake kwanini nanyi msitoe paper maalum ya kupingana nae than kuandika mistari michache ndani ya JF.

Mnashindwa kuelewa kuwa Kazi za kitafiti ni kazi za kitaaluma zaidi nazo siku zote zinajibiwa kitaaluma na kitafiti na si vinginevyo.

Tunasubiri kwa hamu sana paper au hata kitabu chenu kinachoonyesha historia sahihi nje ya hii aliyoweka Mohamed said ya wazee wake.

 

[Mohamed Said]

WildCard, hawa watu nia yao hasa si kuandika historia kwa sababu historia ya kweli haitetereki na inatakiwa ijitetee yenyewe inapokosolewa kwa facts na si uwongo na porojo kama za huyu jamaa Mohamed Said. Binafsi kwa upande mwingine nashukuru sana huu mnakasha umeletwa JF kwani hapa pumba na mchele huchambuliwa kinyume na vijiwe walivyovizoea hawa wachochezi. Huu umbeya wao wamekuwa wakiueneza sehemu mbali mbali bila kuwekwa kiti moto na sasa ona anavyojichanganya Mohamed Said kila anapobanwa, mara aje na hadithi ndeefu ya mjomba, baba mdogo, baba mkubwa...yaani mradi apate pa kutokea.
Nina hakika mtu yeyote akipitia huu mnakasha toka mwanzo na kutafakari yaliyomo bila kuingiza hisia za kidini, hatapata taabu kutambua nia ya Mohamed Said ya kupandikiza mbegu ya chuki miongoni mwa Watanzania kwa mgongo wa dini. Mimi namhakikishia tu jambo moja akae akijua kuwa hayo malengo yake machafu hayatafanikiwa na histohisia yake itabaki hivyo hivyo kama ilivyo, hadithi na simulizi za wazee wake wa Gerezani.

Mag3,

Historia yangu maarufu si hapa Tanzania bali dunia nzima.

Kitabu tunakwenda toleo la tatu.
Na mialiko inakuja.

Mohamed

 

[Kigarama]

Mchochezi Mohamed Said hayuko peke yake, wako wengi kama huyo hapo juu na wimbo wao ni huo huo Nyerere, Kanisa na MfumoKristo. Ukitaka kusoma zaidi tembelea hapa;

Sikujua kama tumefikia pabaya hivi!!

 

[WildCard]

WildCard, hawa watu nia yao hasa si kuandika historia kwa sababu historia ya kweli haitetereki na inatakiwa ijitetee yenyewe inapokosolewa kwa facts na si uwongo na porojo kama za huyu jamaa Mohamed Said. Binafsi kwa upande mwingine nashukuru sana huu mnakasha umeletwa JF kwani hapa pumba na mchele huchambuliwa kinyume na vijiwe walivyovizoea hawa wachochezi. Huu umbeya wao wamekuwa wakiueneza sehemu mbali mbali bila kuwekwa kiti moto na sasa ona anavyojichanganya Mohamed Said kila anapobanwa, mara aje na hadithi ndeefu ya mjomba, baba mdogo, baba mkubwa...yaani mradi apate pa kutokea.

Nina hakika mtu yeyote akipitia huu mnakasha toka mwanzo na kutafakari yaliyomo bila kuingiza hisia za kidini, hatapata taabu kutambua nia ya Mohamed Said ya kupandikiza mbegu ya chuki miongoni mwa Watanzania kwa mgongo wa dini. Mimi namhakikishia tu jambo moja akae akijua kuwa hayo malengo yake machafu hayatafanikiwa na histohisia yake itabaki hivyo hivyo kama ilivyo, hadithi na simulizi za wazee wake wa Gerezani.

Mag3,
Hofu yangu ni kundi na jamii anayoitumia kueneza hisia zake. Sio siri. WAISLAMU wengi unapogusa DINI yao kwa ubaya hawakawii kuhamaki na kuchukua maamuzi ambayo sio salama kwao na kwa jamii nyingine. Tusijidanganye kuwa WAISLAMU wa TANZANIA ni tofauti na hao wengine duniani. Alichokifanya Mohamed kuweka hisia zake na za anaowaita wazee wake katika maandishi sio cha kupuuza sana. Tukikemee sana tu. Mwalimu hakuwa na mchezo na upuuzi wowote ulioonekana kuhatarisha AMANI, UMOJA na UTAIFA wetu.
Athari za maandishi haya ya Mohamed zimeanza kujitokeza hata kwenye chaguzi, teuzi na hata uongozi wa vyama, uongozi wa taasisi na asasi za UMMA. Wapo watu wanayafanyia kazi haya kimyakimya kila wanapopata nafasi au fursa ya kufanya hivo. Ndio maana utasikia Mzee Mohamed anawasifia baadhi yao. Nimemwona Ramadhani Dau leo asubuhi TBC1, kavaa kiDINI kabisa huku akizungumza kikazi!

 

[Mohamed Said]

Mag3,
Hofu yangu ni kundi na jamii anayoitumia kueneza hisia zake. Sio siri. WAISLAMU wengi unapogusa DINI yao kwa ubaya hawakawii kuhamaki na kuchukua maamuzi ambayo sio salama kwao na kwa jamii nyingine. Tusijidanganye kuwa WAISLAMU wa TANZANIA ni tofauti na hao wengine duniani. Alichokifanya Mohamed kuweka hisia zake na za anaowaita wazee wake katika maandishi sio cha kupuuza sana. Tukikemee sana tu. Mwalimu hakuwa na mchezo na upuuzi wowote ulioonekana kuhatarisha AMANI, UMOJA na UTAIFA wetu.
Athari za maandishi haya ya Mohamed zimeanza kujitokeza hata kwenye chaguzi, teuzi na hata uongozi wa vyama, uongozi wa taasisi na asasi za UMMA. Wapo watu wanayafanyia kazi haya kimyakimya kila wanapopata nafasi au fursa ya kufanya hivo. Ndio maana utasikia Mzee Mohamed anawasifia baadhi yao. Nimemwona Ramadhani Dau leo asubuhi TBC1, kavaa kiDINI kabisa huku akizungumza kikazi!

Mag3,

Koti, kanzu na kofia ipo katika "dress code" ya Tanzania na ni kivazi cha watu wa pwani na watu wa pwani wengi ni Waislam. Isikuudhi hiyo uliza utaelezwa.

Sikuanza kuandika leo.

Dhulma ndiyo chokochoko.

Mohamed

 

[Mohamed Said]

Sikujua kama tumefikia pabaya hivi!!

Kigarama,

Kama mie mchochezi mbona sijakamatwa na kupelekwa mahakamani?

Mohamed

 

[Barubaru]

Hizi ndio tunaita porojo ambazo watu wamepigiana hadi wakaziamini. Nitajie watu watano tu waliopotezwa na Nyerere.
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Wasomi aliutofautiana nao JK Nyerere na kuwapa adhabu kali wapo wengi sana na Mohamed said ameshawabainisha na kuwataja wengi katika maasi ya 1964. lakini wengine ni hawa hapa
1. Tuntemeke Sanga
2. Mwalimu Kazibure (Huyu ni aliyekuwa Eng wa mawasiliano (Telecom Eng) na alizuiliwa kibaha na baada kuombewa alikuwa akifundisha kibaha Sec) mtafute

3. Eng Abdullah Salem Al Harthy ( Huyu ni first Tanganyika Electrical& Telecom Eng aligraduate London 1961) Kwa sasa yupo Oman.

na wengine wengi ambao alikorofishana nao katika kazi za kitaaluma na hao wote walishikiria ethics za taaluma zao matokeo yake aliwazuilia wasifaidike na kile walichosomea.

Sasa kuna wengine aliwapeleka exile Kule kwenye visiwa vya Mafia.

Sijui kama una la ziada hapa.

 

[Zimmermann]

Sweke34,

Ni kwa kuwa hujui.

Ingekuwa hapa ni uwanja wangu ningekupa kisa cha Ubay bin Kaab.
Kwako wewe kumsifia Mkandara kuwa Muislam "hodari" umemmaliza.

Na ukisikia siku mimi nimesifiwa na watu kama nyinyi basi jua hamna kitu nishawageuka Waislam.
Hii ndiyo historia ya Uislam na ndiyo Qur'an yenyewe na ndiyo kauli yake Allah SW.

Kama Mkandara ni Muislam khasa jua kwake leo ni siku ya msiba mkubwa.
Mtafute Muislam yeyote akupe kisa cha Mtume SAW na Ubayy bin Kaab utaelewa haya nilokueleza.

Kutokujua nako hakika kuna raha yake.
"Ignorance is bliss."

Mohamed

Imenibidi nikimbilie kwenye shelf la vitabu baada ya kusoma ujumbe wako hapo juu.
Nadhani kama wewe ni ‘scholar ‘ unaweza ukawa umesoma historia ya waislam weusi(Black Muslims) huko Marekani katika harakati za kumkomboa mmarekani mweusi na dhulma za wazungu.
Hapa ninanukuu tu kipande kutoka kwenye Autobiography of Malcolm X (El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz).

Recalling the incident of the young white college girl who had come to the Black Muslim restaurant and asked ‘What can I do ?’ and he told her ‘Nothing ’, and she left in tears, Malcolm X told Gordon Parks , ‘Well , I’ve lived to regret that incident. In many parts of the African Continent I saw white students helping black people. Something like this kills a lot of argument. I did many things as a muslim that I’m sorry for now. I was a zombie then – like all Muslims – I was hypnotized, pointed in a certain direction and told to march’.

MS… hivi ukiwa muislam ni lazima uwe kama Zombie na ukubali kila kitu unachoambiwa na muislam mwenzio(mwenye kujipa ‘authoriy’ kama wewe) bila ya kujiuliza na kutafakari ?
Ukijaribu kutoa changamoto kwa muislam mwenzako na ukasifiwa na watu kama sisi ni kuwageuka waislam?
Mkandara amesifiwa kwa sababu ya mchango wake mzuri na siku zote anajulikana yupo open minded. Hata akina FaizaFoxy na Mdondoaji huwa wanasifiwa na watu kama sisi ….je , na wao tumewapelekea misiba au wamewageuka waislam?
Au unataka muislam asifiwe katika issues nyingine kabisa lakini siyo hizi ulizo zileta hapa za Histohisia ya Gerezani/Dhulma alizowanyia Nyerere waislam/ Mfumo Kristo nk?

 

[FaizaFoxy]

Mag3,
Hofu yangu ni kundi na jamii anayoitumia kueneza hisia zake. Sio siri. WAISLAMU wengi unapogusa DINI yao kwa ubaya hawakawii kuhamaki na kuchukua maamuzi ambayo sio salama kwao na kwa jamii nyingine. Tusijidanganye kuwa WAISLAMU wa TANZANIA ni tofauti na hao wengine duniani. Alichokifanya Mohamed kuweka hisia zake na za anaowaita wazee wake katika maandishi sio cha kupuuza sana. Tukikemee sana tu. Mwalimu hakuwa na mchezo na upuuzi wowote ulioonekana kuhatarisha AMANI, UMOJA na UTAIFA wetu.
Athari za maandishi haya ya Mohamed zimeanza kujitokeza hata kwenye chaguzi, teuzi na hata uongozi wa vyama, uongozi wa taasisi na asasi za UMMA. Wapo watu wanayafanyia kazi haya kimyakimya kila wanapopata nafasi au fursa ya kufanya hivo. Ndio maana utasikia Mzee Mohamed anawasifia baadhi yao. Nimemwona Ramadhani Dau leo asubuhi TBC1, kavaa kiDINI kabisa huku akizungumza kikazi!

Utajaza mwenyewe:

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[Kigarama]

Wakristo wa Marekani na Ulaya wanampenda sana Mzee Mohamed. Wanamsoma sana. Wanamwalika kwenye makongamano na warsha mbalimbali. Wakristo hawa wa ughaibuni wanafurahia jinsi Mzee Mohamed anavyombananga Mwalimu, mkristo mwenzao. Histohisia hii ya Mzee Mohamed iendelee kukubalika huko Marekani na kwingineko. Wazungu wako mbali sana kwa "haki" za binadamu.

Mwalimu hakuwahi kuwa "kipenzi" cha watu wa Magharibi, na hiyo inaeleweka ni kwa nini. Kennedy alikuwa ni rafiki binafsi wa Mwalimu tangu wakiwa chuoni na alipokuwa Rais wa Marekani alijitahidi kuwa karibu Mwalimu ili am - neutralize asiwe "radical" au kuegemea sana kwenye siasa za Kikomunisti kwa walijua kwa ushawishi wake itakuwa ni balaa kama jamaa moja kwa moja akiegemea kwenye Ukomunisti.

Wakristo wa ulaya sidhani kama wanafikia (Qualify) viwango vya kuwa wakristo huku kwetu Afrika. Wakristo wa ulaya maaskofu wake ndiyo wale mashoga, wanauza makanisa yao kwa sababu yanakosa waumini, wasagaji wanaoana kanisani na wakati mwingine makanisa hayo yanaendesha mpaka kamari (lotto) makanisani. Hata waislamu wa Nchi za magharibi zidhani kama Faizafoxy na Mohamed Saidi watawakubali kwamba ni waislamu.

Hoja yangu ni kwamba kutokana na kugandamizwa na mifumo mikongwe ya kanisa na utawala wa Kifalme watu wa Magharibi wameasi dhidi ya mfumo wowote ule unaoonekana kwamba unanyima uhuru wa watu. Kama maandiko yake yanavyoonekana MS amefanikiwa kuonyesha kwamba yeye anapigania "haki" na "uhru" wa waislamu walikokuwa wamegandamizwa na "mfumo kristo" kwa muda mrefu. Kama Nyerere alipokufa walidiriki kumuita Dikteta itakuwaje akitokea mtu kutoka kwenye nchi anayotoka "dikteta" kuthibitisha madai yao!!

 

[WildCard]

Mag3,

Historia yangu maarufu si hapa Tanzania bali dunia nzima.

Kitabu tunakwenda toleo la tatu.
Na mialiko inakuja.

Mohamed

Wakristo wa dunia nyingine unawaonaje? Unawakubali au wanakukubali? Naona una historia yako mwenzetu! Kwa lipi, UDINI huu?

 

[punainen-red]

[/FONT]Punainen,

Ikiwa lipo kosa nakutaka radhi ndiyo ubinadamu.

Mimi sisusi kujibu lakini tambua sie tumelelewa katika misingi ya nidhamu ya hali ya juu kuhusu adabu.
Tumefunzwa kutotukana.

Sasa mimi mtu akinitusi sirejeshi tusi.
Namuepuka kuepusha shari.

Mohamed

"Ikiwa lipo kosa" mzee, kwa heshima kabisa ni vizuri utambue kuwa asilimia kubwa ya watu ktk jamii wamelelewa vizuri tu, ni wachache ambao kwa bahati mbaya hawakulelewa vizuri. Na unaposema kila mara kuwa 'tumelelewa' au 'tumefunzwa' unajaribu kuelezea kundi gani?! Kwenye post yangu uliyoijibu nimekuwekea na maneno yako ambayo yamemtaja kwa sijui niseme dharau au kwa makosa mtu uliyemjibu huko nyuma, lkn pamoja na kukuwekea wazi na pamoja na kila mara kututangazia humu kuwa 'umelelewa' vizuri haujaonyesha angalau basi ustaarabu wa kuliona na kulikiri kosa lako hata kama ni la kiuandishi! Badala yake umekuja na sentensi kuwa 'ikiwa lipo kosa...!!!' Na si kuwa nawaunga mkono watukanaji, ktk posts zangu zote humu hakuna mahali utakuta nimetukana, lkn pia hiyo haiwezi kuwa sababu ya kujisifu kila mara kuwa... mimi nimelelewaaa, mimi nimelelewaaa...!!

 

[Barubaru]

Mag3,
Hofu yangu ni kundi na jamii anayoitumia kueneza hisia zake. Sio siri. WAISLAMU wengi unapogusa DINI yao kwa ubaya hawakawii kuhamaki na kuchukua maamuzi ambayo sio salama kwao na kwa jamii nyingine. Tusijidanganye kuwa WAISLAMU wa TANZANIA ni tofauti na hao wengine duniani. Alichokifanya Mohamed kuweka hisia zake na za anaowaita wazee wake katika maandishi sio cha kupuuza sana. Tukikemee sana tu. Mwalimu hakuwa na mchezo na upuuzi wowote ulioonekana kuhatarisha AMANI, UMOJA na UTAIFA wetu.
Athari za maandishi haya ya Mohamed zimeanza kujitokeza hata kwenye chaguzi, teuzi na hata uongozi wa vyama, uongozi wa taasisi na asasi za UMMA. Wapo watu wanayafanyia kazi haya kimyakimya kila wanapopata nafasi au fursa ya kufanya hivo. Ndio maana utasikia Mzee Mohamed anawasifia baadhi yao. Nimemwona Ramadhani Dau leo asubuhi TBC1, kavaa kiDINI kabisa huku akizungumza kikazi!

Labda naomba ufafanuzi kuvaa kidini ndio kuvaa namna gani? yaani kavaa kanzu na kofia? au kavaa kofia kama Augustono Mrema? Na vipi wale wale wanaovaa rosali shingoni au kuweka katika magari yao huko Tanganyika? au wale wanaupiga nyimbo za dini kwenye maofisi ya serikali? huo sio udini?

Vipi yale mapambo ya X-mas tree na mengine mengi wakti wa msimu wa sikukuu ya kuzaliwa yesu? sio udini.

Naomba ufafanuzi wako hapo.

Lakini pia nimekuwa nakueleza uongo wowote ukiachwa kwa muda mrefu basi unageuka kuwa kweli. Njia sahihi kwa msomi kama wewe ni kutoa paper au kitabu cha kukosoa yale aliyoandika Mohamed Said na sio kulalama na kuandika mistari miwili kwenye JF. Nafikiri Mohamed said ametoa kwenye moja ya magazeti yenu huko Tz la Mwananchi, je na wewe upo wapi kujibu hiyo makala?

Acha uvivu liokoe taifa lako kwa kulitendea haki kwa kuandika makala kupingana na Mohamed said badala ya kulalama.

 

[Kigarama]

Hizi ni nguzo za Uislamu na kwa uelewa wangu waislamu wa Tanzania hawazuiliwi kuzitimiza.
1. Kushahadia

2. Kuswali swala tano

3. Kufunga

4. Kutoa zaka

5. Kuhiji kwa mwenye uwezo

Kama waislamu wangekuwa wanagandamizwa katika hizo nguzo tano za uislamu ningeelewa hoja za MS. MS na wenzake watuambie ni wapi na ni lini waslamu walikatazwa kwenda kuhiji, kuswali. kufunga kwa Sunnah na Kufunga Ramadhani, kutoa zaka au kushahadia. Sijawahi kuona mfumo wa serikali ukikataza wakristo kusilimu au waislamu kujenga misikiti au kuadhini. Naijua misikiti ambayo iko katikati ya makazi ya watu kwenye mchanganyiko wa wakristo na waislamu na sijawahi kusikia serikali ikikataza waislamu kuadhini kwa sababu 'wanawasumbua" wasio waislamu kwa adhana zao.

Waislamu wanapotaka kwenda Mecca kuhiji hakuna siku walikatazwa kwenda badala yake serikali mara kadhaa imewahi kutoa fedha kusaidia waislamu kwenda kuhiji, sasa hapo waislamu wanakandamizwaje na huo mfumokristu na inakuwaje mfumokristu unashindwa kuzuia waislamu kuhiji, kusilimisha wakristo au kuadhini?

Hivi karibuni serikali si ilishawahi kutoa zaidi ya Shilingi Bilioni 2 kusafirisha mahujaji kwenda Mecca kuhiji? Kanisa lilikuwa wapi kuizuia serikali kutoa fedha hizo??