Kiranga
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Kwa.sababu tunahambua ukweli na hadithi zisizo na ukweli.
Kwa sababu wewe ndiye uliyejibuzana nami hapa kama mtetezi wa uwepo wa mungu.
If God knows the future (omniscient), can you change your destiny?
If God knows the future (omniscient), can you change your destiny?
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Kwa.sababu tunahambua ukweli na hadithi zisizo na ukweli.
Kwa sababu wewe ndiye uliyejibuzana nami hapa kama mtetezi wa uwepo wa mungu.
Ishmael
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Hato weza kukujibu kamwe. ZAID ya blah blah zisizo kuwa jibu
Kiranga
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Uthibitisho gani umetoa?
Hiyo copy paste yako ambayo haina kichwa wala mguu?
Unaniambia First and Second Laws ofThermodynamics zinathibitisha kuwepo kwa mungu.
Nikakuuliza kama unatumia Second Law of Thermodynamics, inasema kila kitu kitakongoroka baada ya muda.
Na mungu wako naye atakongoroka?
Sijaona jibu.
Huwezi kutumia Second Law of Thermodynamics inapo fit matakwa yako, lakini ukiulizwa maswali kuhusu law hiyo hiyo ukakataa kujibu.
Unacheza wewe.
Eiyer
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1;Unawezaje kutambua ukweli? Ni iweli gani unaoutambua wewe?
2;Ni lini nilikuambia kuwa Mungu ninaemjua mimi anahitaji nimtetee?
By the way;unapoandika punguza speed maana naona "unachapia" sana!
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Ngoja tumsubiri aje!
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you know what I think? anajua "Mungu yupo", he just doubt God's power, anachukizwa na vita na mauaji halafu anashangaa kuona bado tuna Imani thabit, bado tunaamini Yupo. Tunajua He is not the cause for all of this, but satan is.
Mungu hakuweka dhambi, Mungu aliweka "free will" kwa malaika hata binadamu, na hii ni kwa sababu Anataka tumwabudu kwa moyo mmoja bila kuwa forced. Kwani anashindwa kutu-force? au kutu-command tumwabudu automatically bila sisi kujua? Hapana, hashindwi, Yeye ni wa Haki, ndiyo maana kuna free will, ndiyo maana kuna watu wanadiriki hata kumtukana, lakini asiwafanye chochote. He can even End everything He created in a SINGLE SNAP of his fingers, but no He wont, because He loves us more than we can imagine.
kamwachia satan dunia hii, aitawale atakavyo. Ili sisi tupate kuona kwa macho yetu ni utawala wa nani unafaa? angalia jinsi malaika waishivyo kwa raha huko mbinguni chini ya utawala wa Mungu, tuangalie sisi tulio chini ya huyu nyoka.
Aliye na macho, na aone. Aliye na masikio na asikie.
sasa kaka, ukitaka kuona huyu God hater ni wa ajabu, atakuja kuni-quote na maswali yake wakati nilishasema simjibu. labda aache kwa kuwa nimesema hayo.
housegirl
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nahoji nature ya muumba....dont his creations reveal his nature?
pia nahoji hoja yenu ya kuwa mungu hakuumba kifo. lets no go in circles b'se nilishaelezea my side.
Eiyer
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Unanihoji mimi nature ya Mungu?
Tatizo linakujaje?
Mungu hakuumba kifo,sasa shida iko wapi bibie?
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Psalm 19:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handy work.
Since God is the one from whom glory comes, He will not let stand the assertion that glory comes from man or from the idols of man or from nature.
In short, God has attributes and not Natures.
Accordingly, His creations according to Psalm declare His Glory.
housegirl
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yes wewe. nilikuukiza how can an all loving God create death .
unasema Mungu hakuumba kifo wakati nimeshaonyesha kuwa ni yeye kaumba kifo. see? we have been through this. nilishamake my conclusions though so its ok dont bother
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Eiyer, umemfikisha pabaya huyu. Umemtega sasa ameingia kilaini kabisa.
Kumbe anao ushaidi kuwa hakuna Mungu!!!! LEO ATULETEE USHAIDI KUWA HAKUNA MUNGU. Hakuna kukimbia mtu hapa.
Tuletee Ukweli unao utambua!!! NATAKA NIWE NON THEIST KAMA WEWE.
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Inaona ndicho unachoweza kusema Hahaaaaaa!
Sasa kama hutaki nifanyeje kama , unapindisha maneno nifanyeje.
Uzuri sikunongoneza nimeandika na maandishi bado yapo for future reference. Kama hujaelewa au mbishi ama uko sahihi hiyo jukumu la watakao kuwa wanapitia thread.
Katika bandiko The First Law of Thermodynamics imetumika ku proof kuwepo kwa the creator, Second Law of Thermodynamics imetumika ku proof kuwa binadamu si matokeo ya evolution is just a myth.
Nime cite credible source ya habari unabeza copy and paste, unatakaje Intellectual Property lazima u acknowledge .Pili for more review nimeweka website.Tatu ni rahisi kutumia majibu mazuri yanayokubalika na wanazuoni kama nilivyofanya ..bado unabeza unasema na copy na ku paste nisivyojua.
Wewe unaye cite Wikipedia which anyone can edit unajiona mjanja ...kazi kweli kweli.
Kwa kifupi bado sijuhi unapindisha makusudi au ndo uelewa wako .
Jamani tubadilike forum ihusishe kujifunza vitu vipya not about ego au nani kashinda .
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Yes, Eiyer hajakosea alipo sema kuwa Mungu hakuumba Kifo. Yupo sahih na thabit katika jibu lake.
Je, Mungu aliumba Shetani? Ndio maana nilisema in one of my prior post kuwa: God did not create Adam and Eve so that one day they can die, inter-alia, God did not create Lucifer so that he can be Satan.
There is no verse in the infallible word that will support your argument of God creating death, in contrast, in the Quran Allah is creating death. May be you meant Allah and not Elohim.
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Eiyer
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Nithibitishie ni wapi Mungu aliumba kifo kisha tuendelee .....!!
housegirl
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Ishmael we have already seen that you have nothing to tell me about your Incomprehensible God.
Its up to the Christians who accept that logic is part of God, to explain to me his nature.
pls Dont bother
Eiyer
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Ametoweka ghafla sijui kaenda wapi .....!!
housegirl
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pale ambapo alimwambia Adam atakufa hakika kama angekula tunda
that and the concept itself. Death. Kama Mungu angeumba ulimwengu ambamo hamna kitu kama hichi, kisingekuwepo.
housegirl
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tushakubaliana na Mkuu wa chuo kwamba these type of statements are provoking statements and unnecessary
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Ishmael
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Hapo ndipo wengi wanashindwa elewa kuwa Mungu ametupa free will. Unachagua nini unataka na kama ni jambo baya, basi uwe teyari kukubali matokea ya uchaguzi wako. Wao wanachagua ubaya halafu mambo yanapotekea, wanaanza kumlilia Mungu, Oooh Mbona Mungu huji kuniokoa, Mbona Mungu unaniacha naumia, LAKINI, wakati wanafanya uchaguzi wa hayo mabaya, HAWAKUMUULIZA MUNGU, je , ni vema kufanya haya mabaya na wasikie ushauri wake ni upi.
Nashukuru Mkuu kwa ujumbe wako ambao, kama atausoma, basu utamfungua macho, lakini kwa kuwa ameamua kuwa kipofu, basi hapo tunamwachia Mungu mwenye Rehema afanye kazi yake. Hata Pharaoh was just like them, lakini siku moja, the Mighty Pharaoh alipiga magoti na kusema Hakika Kuna Mungu katika Israel.