If God knows the future (omniscient), can you change your destiny?

[Eiyer]

Prove kwamba mungu yupo.

Prove kwamba hayupo!

 

[Eiyer]

ha ha ha hivi hii mijadala bado IPO? Kiranga.. Ishmael na Eiyer hapa mtakesha Kama hamjaamua hii discussion IPO ktk ujuzi au imani?


Kama ni IMANI ni sawa na kubeba maji kwenye pakacha kwasababu kuamini kila MTU aweza amini chochote na asiamini chochote kwakuwa tu ni mambo yasiyoonekana...

Kama ni UJUZI hapo unaweza pata mshindi maana ujuzi Una kipimo na uthibitisho...

sasa je mpo kiimani au ujuzi?

Wameshadai humu kuwa kujua ni nyumba ya ujinga

Sasa kama wanataka kujua inakuwa na maana kuwa wanataka kuwa wajinga ....!!

 

[1701]

hawa watu ndio shida yao hiyo nawaona wengi sana humu wanajiona wana akili sana, kuna mmoja anaitwa 1701 alisema kabisa watu wanaoamini Mungu hawana akili kwenye ile mada yake ya who create god? Lakini ukiangalia uwezo wake ni mdogo hata katika kujenga hoja, sasa hiyo kudharau watu wanaoamini Mungu ni msingi wa Imani yao ya Atheism!?

it is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge

 

[2013]

Prove kwamba mungu yupo.

Ni wazi kuwa hakuna mtu anayeweza ku-prove kwamba Mungu yupo na kama yupo hawezi kuaminika kwa asilimia 100% hata akienda mahakama ipi.

Naweza kusema watu huwa wanatoa evidences tu zenye kuelezea uwezekano wa uwepo wa Mungu.kwani Ku-prove(kuthibitisha) ni jambo linalotegemea imani husika ya individual.

japo Bibilia na vitabu vingine vinatumika kama evidence ya uwepo wa Mungu -pia tusisahau kwamba watu wanaweza wasikubaliane na viashiria vya aina yoyote vilivyoainishwa huko kama ni dalili za uwepo wa Mungu na hii ni kutegemeana na thinking perspective ya mtu.

Hivyo basi Kwakuwa jambo la ku-prove lina -rely zaidi kwa watu kuonyeshwa mahala mungu alipo na watu wamwone kwa macho na sio kutumia viashiria tu.

vilevile inaweza kutokea watu wakaonyeshwa huyo Mungu na wakatafsiri ni Alliens, ama ghost ama fiction tu.kwani umbile halisi la mungu ni wazi halijulikani.


Wakristo wamekuwa wakichora picha ya yesu - ku-portray Mungu na ni wazi inawezekana kwakuwa angalau yesu walimwona kwakuwa alikuwa binadamu. (Hali ni tofauti kwa Mungu Baba).

Yesu kristo aliwahi kukataa kuwaonyesha watu ishara isipokuwa ya kufa na kufufuka msalabani tu, na Muammad alisema hawezi kufanya miujiza, yoyote..All in all viashiria ndio vinavyotetea zaidi uwepo wa Mungu.

 

[Mkuu wa chuo]

it is always more difficult to fight against faith than against knowledge

Yeah, kama ilivyo virahisi katika kupinga bila ya kuleta ushahidi wa madai ya upingaji wako...

 

[Eiyer]

Yeah, kama ilivyo virahisi katika kupinga bila ya kuleta ushahidi wa madai ya upingaji wako...

Mkuu hawa watu ni wa ajabu sana

Wao wanapinga bila kuleta ushahidi halafu wanasema kuwa wao hawahitajiki kutoa ushahidi

Kupinga tu bila kutoa ushahidi ni raisi sana!

 

[Mkuu wa chuo]

Mkuu hawa watu ni wa ajabu sana

Wao wanapinga bila kuleta ushahidi halafu wanasema kuwa wao hawahitajiki kutoa ushahidi

Kupinga tu bila kutoa ushahidi ni raisi sana!

kuna kazi sana mkuu... yaani ni kazi kwelikweli!

 

[July Fourth]

I thought you said destiny is STATIC! hiyo milango ya nini sasa kama you can not change your destiny!

Maybe kuna exceptions

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Prove kwamba hayupo!

Ambacho hakipo kinathibitishikaje kwamba hakipo?

 

[Ishmael]

ha ha ha hivi hii mijadala bado IPO? Kiranga.. Ishmael na Eiyer hapa mtakesha Kama hamjaamua hii discussion IPO ktk ujuzi au imani?


Kama ni IMANI ni sawa na kubeba maji kwenye pakacha kwasababu kuamini kila MTU aweza amini chochote na asiamini chochote kwakuwa tu ni mambo yasiyoonekana...

Kama ni UJUZI hapo unaweza pata mshindi maana ujuzi Una kipimo na uthibitisho...

sasa je mpo kiimani au ujuzi?

Nice to see you here once again.

Tatizo kubwa ni hili: God is not a "scientific" person with "biological" attributes that can be proven in the lab or using logical findings which are based on assumptions. God said in the Bible that "He is the Spirit".

Hivyobasi, ili kumwelewa Mungu inabidi utumie Vitabu vyake na sio otherwise, kama ilivyo, ili kuelewa Hisabati inabiti utumie vitabu vya Hisabati na sio otherwise. Lakini inashangaza kuwa wanaojiita kuwa na elimu wana kubali kuwa, huwezi soma Psychology kwa kutumia kitabu cha somo la kujifunza Kiswahili, lakini wanataka kusoma kuhusu Mungu kwakutumia kitabu kinacho husu Fizikia. Je, Kitabu cha Fizikia kinaweza kukufundisha lugha ya Kiswahili?

Hivyo basi:
1. Ujuzi hauwezi kumtambua Mungu wala kumpinga Mungu maana hauna uwezo wa kuelewa nini maana ya Roho.
2. Faith "Imani" ambayo ni evidence of things not seen ndio pekee ina hold watertight.
3. Yesu ni Mungu

Watakabahu

 

[Ishmael]

Ambacho hakipo kinathibitishikaje kwamba hakipo?

Nani kakwambia kuwa hakipo na umejuaje kuwa hakipo?

Ambacho hakipo na hakijawai kuwepo, kivipi kiwe na jina?

 

[Lusungo]

Nice to see you here once again.

Tatizo kubwa ni hili: God is not a "scientific" person with "biological" attributes that can be proven in the lab or using logical findings which are based on assumptions. God said in the Bible that "He is the Spirit".

Hivyobasi, ili kumwelewa Mungu inabidi utumie Vitabu vyake na sio otherwise, kama ilivyo, ili kuelewa Hisabati inabiti utumie vitabu vya Hisabati na sio otherwise. Lakini inashangaza kuwa wanaojiita kuwa na elimu wana kubali kuwa, huwezi soma Psychology kwa kutumia kitabu cha somo la kujifunza Kiswahili, lakini wanataka kusoma kuhusu Mungu kwakutumia kitabu kinacho husu Fizikia. Je, Kitabu cha Fizikia kinaweza kukufundisha lugha ya Kiswahili?

Hivyo basi:
1. Ujuzi hauwezi kumtambua Mungu wala kumpinga Mungu maana hauna uwezo wa kuelewa nini maana ya Roho.
2. Faith "Imani" ambayo ni evidence of things not seen ndio pekee ina hold watertight.
3. Yesu ni Mungu

Watakabahu

Imani haina mipaka waweza amini chochote....

 

[Ishmael]

Imani haina mipaka waweza amini chochote....

Kuna imani za "UONGO" ambazo hata non theism is part of it na kuna imani ya kweli "BELIEVING IN JESUS".

Hivyo, basi, kuna imani moja tu ambayo ni ya kweli ambayo ni kupitia Yesu. Zinginze zote ni bayana.

 

[Lusungo]

Kuna imani za "UONGO" ambazo hata non theism is part of it na kuna imani ya kweli "BELIEVING IN JESUS".

Hivyo, basi, kuna imani moja tu ambayo ni ya kweli ambayo ni kupitia Yesu. Zinginze zote ni bayana.

Ha ha ha sawa mkuu

Naona wamekua kimya hawakujibu

 

[Mwadunda]

you can not change your destiny at all, but stop being heartless, challenge your limitation.

What if i challenge my limitation and win it....! Actualy i beliave that i can make my own destiny and even God bless what i plant.

 

[2013]

What if i challenge my limitation and win it....!

Do you know your limitation yet?.......what benchmark did God set forth to you? . then what strategies have you 'created to surpass the God's Benchmark destiny?

Actually i beliave that i can make my own destiny and even God bless what i plant.

that's right..Your destiny is in your hands

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Nani kakwambia kuwa hakipo na umejuaje kuwa hakipo?

Kama kipo nionyeshe basi.

Ambacho hakipo na hakijawai kuwepo, kivipi kiwe na jina?

Si kila kilicho na jina kipo! We vipi wewe?

Ushawahi kumwona Bigfoot wewe? Au Loch Ness monster?

 

[Ishmael]

Kama kipo nionyeshe basi.

Wewe ndie ulie sema hakipo, halafu unataka mimi nikuonyeshe?

Si kila kilicho na jina kipo! We vipi wewe?

I don't have time with blahing blahing, support your notions.

Ushawahi kumwona Bigfoot wewe? Au Loch Ness monster?

In the movies, yes, I did.

Sasa jibu maswali yangu kwa scientific evidence

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Wewe ndie ulie sema hakipo, halafu unataka mimi nikuonyeshe?



I don't have time with blahing blahing, support your notions.

In the movies, yes, I did.

Sasa jibu maswali yangu kwa scientific evidence

It's impossible to have a respectful and intelligent discussion with you.

I'm out.

 

[Ishmael]

It's impossible to have a respectful and intelligent discussion with you.

I'm out.

You are not the first one to run, mwenzako kaniweka kwenye IGNORE LIST, you can do the same. Chao