If our President has more than one wife: The question of human rights

[Nyani Ngabu]

Sasa muwapokee kama walivyo hao wenye high self esteem. Msiwabeze iwe wanaself esteem kutokana na mazingira au hata kama ni inborn.

Oh yeah ila wakizidi nyodo tunawaweka kwenye mstari, au vipi Mama? Lol

Notice leo sijakutukana....aren't you proud of me?

 

[Koba]

..hakuna excuse yeyote ya kuvumilia mtu kupigwa au kuwa abused kwa namna yeyote kwenye relationship,sana sana vipigo...thats no no,abusive nyingine kama mind game,cheating hizo zina namna ya kudeal nazo na ni case by case maana hazifanani,ila usipige mwanamke ndugu yangu maana naturally nita react!

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

..hakuna excuse yeyote ya kuvumilia mtu kupigwa au kuwa abused kwa namna yeyote kwenye relationship,sana sana vipigo...thats no no,abusive nyingine kama mind game,cheating hizo zina namna ya kudeal nazo na ni case by case maana hazifanani,ila usipige mwanamke ndugu yangu maana naturally nita react!

Vipi yule dada yako, yuko single? Nipigie pande basi....Lol

 

[Yo Yo]

...nakumbuka kuna mme wa cousin yetu alikuwa na tabia ya kumdunda cousin wetu,tukampa warning mara kibao bila kusikia,one day cousin wetu katupigia simu kapigwa,tulimfuata huko huko kwake na tulimpa kipigo ambacho hatasahau maishani mwake,tukabeba na cousin wetu...alikuja kumpata mke wake baada ya vikao kama 10 hivi na message akimpiga tuu atapata kibano alichopata mara 100 na jela ataiona,siku hizi kawa baba mzuri sana...dawa ukiona dada yako,cousin etc wanapigwa na wanaume zao dawa ni kuwageuzia kibao na kuwatandika kisawasawa na unahakikisha unavunja mkono au mguu!

Khaa! shemeji yako nae hamnazo utampigaje mwanamke bana....labda sijaelewa alimpigaje maana kuna vipigo vingi.....

Mwanamke ni kiumbe dhaifu hapaswi kupigwa ni wa kubembeleza na kuliwazana.......sipigi mwanamke kwa kipigo cha ngumi na mateke wana vipigo vyao....labda sijaelewa kipigo gani mkuu Koba cousin wako alipigwa

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Khaa! shemeji yako nae hamnazo utampigaje mwanamke bana....labda sijaelewa alimpigaje maana kuna vipigo vingi.....

Mwanamke ni kiumbe dhaifu hapaswi kupigwa ni wa kubembeleza na kuliwazana.......sipigi mwanamke kwa kipigo cha ngumi na mateke wana vipigo vyao....labda sijaelewa kipigo gani mkuu Koba cousin wako alipigwa

Wewe wewe wewe...ngoja JF Inspector General of Morality aka Kuhani au msaidizi wake aka Mama (The Professor) aione hiyo...utakoma ubishi....

 

[Yo Yo]

Wewe wewe wewe...ngoja JF Inspector General of Morality aka Kuhani au msaidizi wake aka Mama (The Professor) aione hiyo...utakoma ubishi....

Kuhani nae ni genge la TGNP? watanisamehe

 

[Mama]

Sikujua kama mimi ni Professor, nani alinitunuku ? Mbona sikujulishwa ? Duh...kwangu hii ni kali ya mwaka 2008!!

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Sikujua kama mimi ni Professor, nani alinitunuku ? Mbona sikujulishwa ? Duh...kwangu hii ni kali ya mwaka 2008!!

Kwani unajua kila kitu Mama? Halafu mbona umereact kwa shock hivyo Mama? Halafu mbona ni sifa nzuri tu hiyo Mama? Na kwani una tatizo na kutiwa hivyo Mama? Aaah Mama wewe nawe wakati mwingine bana....

 

[Mama]

Sijui chochote achia mbali kila kitu, hata namba ya simu ya mezani ya mkuu wangu wa wilaya siijui. Sio sifa nzuri hiyo kwani sitaki sifa za uongo kama kina maji marefu na wazee fulani wa .....Usinipake mafuta kwa mgongo wa chupa.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Sijui chochote avhia mbali kila kitu, hata namba ya simu ya mezani ya mkuu wangu wa wilaya siijui. Sio sifa nzuri hiyo kwani sitaki sifa za uongo kama kina maji marefu na wazee fulani wa .....Usinipake mafuta kwa mgongo wa chupa.

Oh no..wewe hauko katika league za kina maji marefu...wewe ni profesa wa mafizikia na kemia na mambo kama hayo. Ni sifa nzuri hiyo Mama, haki ya Mungu tena.

Na ningependa kweli kukupaka samli mgongoni..hehehehehee...kwa kutumia chupa....very enjoyable...u should try it one day..lol

 

[Kitila Mkumbo]

Oh no..wewe hauko katika league za kina maji marefu...wewe ni profesa wa mafizikia na kemia na mambo kama hayo. Ni sifa nzuri hiyo Mama, haki ya Mungu tena.

Na ningependa kweli kukupaka samli mgongoni..hehehehehee...kwa kutumia chupa....very enjoyable...u should try it one day..lol

Weye, hizo lugha zin wenyewe, wasikusikie watakushushua!

 

[Mkandara]

Nyani Ngabu,

Na ningependa kweli kukupaka samli mgongoni..hehehehehee...kwa kutumia chupa....very enjoyable...u should try it one day..lol

Duh hapa mkuu umenimaliza.. samli tena..ama kweli wewe mtaalam..
Kisha hawa wanawake ati wanajiuliza kwa nini watu kama Kikwete wana wake wawili..

 

[Mama]

Oh no..wewe hauko katika league za kina maji marefu...wewe ni profesa wa mafizikia na kemia na mambo kama hayo. Ni sifa nzuri hiyo Mama, haki ya Mungu tena.

Na ningependa kweli kukupaka samli mgongoni..hehehehehee...kwa kutumia chupa....very enjoyable...u should try it one day..lol

Okay, apia Miungu yote na majina pia utataja. Kula maganda tu wenyewe wala ndizi na ku-own mgomba wanakusare tu humu.

 

[under_age]

mada yetu ishageuka love story! lakini imenoga! koba kamdunda shemejiye .kha kha kha

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Okay, apia Miungu yote na majina pia utataja. Kula maganda tu wenyewe wala ndizi na ku-own mgomba wanakusare tu humu.

Mmmhh....kumbe wenye mali wamo humu ndani....haya Mama....

Mi ntaishia ku-visualize tu....mmmh...mmmmhhh...wewe Mama wewe

 

[Mkandara]

Nyani Ngabu,

Mi ntaishia ku-visualize tu....mmmh...mmmmhhh...wewe Mama wewe

Haaa! haaa! haaa!
Wenyewe husema - Utabakia kutazama kama kopo la chooni!..

 

[Augustine Moshi]

Kuna waliodhalilisha hii mada kwa kuingiza vitu visivyohusika na polygamy. Point za mwisho zinazohusu mada hii zilitolewa na Mkandara.

Mkandara anadai kwamba tunaoa wanawake wengi ili kuwasaidia wasiwe malaya. Kama hivyo ndivyo, si tungeoa malaya wenyewe kabisa ili kuwaondoa kwenye tatizo lao? Na wanawake watawasaidiaje wanaume malaya ? Waolewe na wengi wao au vipi?

Mkandara kawakosea sana heshima wanawake kwa point yake hii. Anataka kuwaambia wale walioolewa kama wake wa pili na kuendelea kwamba wao wangekuwa malaya kama hawangeonewa huruma na kuolewa na hao waume zao!

Point nyingine ya Mkandara eti ni kwamba ndoa ya mke mmoja inamdhalilisha mwanamke "kwani mume anaweza kutembea nje ya ndoa". Kwani wenye wake wawili hawatembei nje ya ndoa? Huoni wanavyofanya hao viongozi wako? Mkandara hajui kwamba "kutembea nje ya ndoa" kunafanywa sana na wanawake walio kwenye ndoa ya wake wengi (for obvious reaasons)?

Mkandara claims also that we cannot talk about the rights of women without talking about the rights of single women. Yes we can, and we did. We don’t have to talk about all rights when we talk about some right.

Let me end by recalling a criticism that I received, several posts earlier, that I may not equate the matter of a President marrying two wives with that of a man going around with a running nose. Perhaps I really shouldn’t do that because it is unfair to people who walk around with running noses.

 

[Augustine Moshi]

Now, let us suppose that a man has two wives, in two distinct houses, and that each wife has some children. Do we have here two families or one family? The answer depends much on what one means by "family". If "family" means father, mother and possibly children (as it does to most normal people), then you have more than a family when more than one mother is involved.

So, a man with several wives could be a "families man" but not a "family man". Polygamy distorts the modern concept of "family' in more fundamental ways. Think of the children. Do the groups of children, of the different wives, not feel loved and cared for, by the father, to different extents? Do jealousies not exist here?

We live in a changed world. Polygamy might have been harmless to the institution of the family in the past, but it now endangers it. We need to protect the rights of women and families by abolishing polygamy. It can be done, and it has been done in many countries.

 

[Mbu]

...ukishajiuliza kwanini watu wanaoana, utapata jibu kwanini watu wanaamua kuoa mke wa pili, wa tatu mpaka wa nne.

Ndoa maana yake nini?

inawezekana ikawa kuanzisha familia, kuimarisha familia, kuendeleza familia, kupata warithi, wasaidizi uzeeni, yawezekana pia ikawa ni kudumisha amani na upendo...

...Mafundisho ya dini yanatuongoza vipi?

kuna yanayotufundisha; kuoa ili kuwastiri, kuwasaidia ulezi wa familia, kuwaepusha na kutengwa na jamii, kuwapatia hifadhi na mapenzi, kuwaondoshea ukiwa, unyonge...

Ndoa yeyote, iwe ya kanisani, kiislamu, bomani au ya kimila, maagizo yake ni kuishi kwa amani, upendo na kuheshimiana. Lakini, kote huko kuna mipaka yake. mfano; Waislamu hawahalalishi ndoa baina ya wanandoa wenye jinsia moja, i.e Mwanaume kumuoa mwanaume mwenziwe au, mwanamke kuolewa na mwanamke mwenziwe. Utasema hilo ni kuvunja haki za binadamu hawa?

Kuna mgogoro mkubwa sasa katika kanisa la Anglikana kuhusiana na kanisa kuongozwa na mapadre 'mashoga',

The ordination of gay Bishop Gene Robinson divided Anglicans

, utasema anavunjiwa haki zake za ubinadamu ingawa kwa makusudi kabisa anachanganya ushoga na uongozi wa kanisa? au HAKI ndio 'maendeleo' haya mnayoyaita Civil partnership, ndoa baina ya watu wa jinsia moja?

Tusichanganye sana mambo. Haki za binadamu ni sheria za kidunia, zilizotungwa na binadamu. Mafundisho ya kiroho ni muongozo kamili kwa yeyote anayeamua kusoma, kuelewa, kuyazingatia na kuyasimamia yaliyomo. Kwa mwenye imani, basi haki zote za mwanamke zimo ndani ya vitabu vitakatifu, tangu Torah, Zaburi, Injili, mpaka Qur'aan.

Iwapo Elimu yako ni dunia, basi haki za mwanamke utazikuta katika makubaliano ya Beijing. Iweje basi uhoji haki za mwenzako ilhali wewe una imani yako, naye ana imani yake? si kila mtu ana HAKI YAKE YA MSINGI ya kufuata muongozo wa Imani yake?

 

[Augustine Moshi]

Mchongma anasema:

...ukishajiuliza kwanini watu wanaoana, utapata jibu kwanini watu wanaamua kuoa mke wa pili, wa tatu mpaka wa nne.

Nimejuiliza na sikupata jibu lake humo. Wewe ulipojiuliza ulipata jibu gani?

Ndoa maana yake nini? inawezekana ikawa kuanzisha familia, kuimarisha familia, kuendeleza familia, kupata warithi, wasaidizi uzeeni, yawezekana pia ikawa ni kudumisha amani na upendo...

Hayo yaweza kuwa matunda ya ndoa. lakini si maana a ndoa.

Haki za binadamu ni sheria za kidunia, zilizotungwa na binadamu

Hapana. Haki za binadamu zinatokana na HADHI yake ya kuumbwa kwa mfano wa Mungu. Hata kama hajui hilo, lakini bado hilo ndilo chimbuko la haki zake. Kwa mantiki hiyo basi, hakuna binadamu mwenye ruhusa ya kutunga sheria zinazomwondolea binadamu mwenziye haki zake.

Akidhalilishwa binadamu mmoja, basi ubinadamu wetu wote umedhalilishwa. Ndio maana haki za wanawake ni haki zinazotuhusu sisi sote, Mchongoma included.