Ishmael
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- Oct 18, 2011
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Non theists mindlessly BELIEVE that no God exists.Atheism isn't a faith. You can't have faith in nothing. I do on the other hand have faith in humanity.
Non theists don't lack a belief. Rocks lack a belief. Do you seriously mean to tell me non theists lack a belief position in whether or not God exists?
God is a construction of our imaginations, something theists hope is true, so that their lives have purpose, so that they have something to look forward to. It's a safety blanket for those who can't face the idea of death's finality. When you die, there's nothing, your body degrades, and that's all that happens. Ishmael, that scares you, and its why you are so passionately defending a sinking ship.
I already answered this. Because God has no beginning to His existence.
Only that which BEGINS to exist requires a cause.
Your failure to distinguish belief in God (ontology) from a zillion differing views ABOUT God (epistemology) or god (mythology) is your failure, not mine.
Do multiple different views of a car accident multiply the number of car accidents?
Nope, logic demands that anything that BEGINS to exist requires a cause to explain it's existence. Something cannot come from nothing.God is a concept because, as i've said, all evidence towards him/she/it/them is circumstantial; it can all be explained by something else.
My logic is perfect.
Just because QM is not easily explained does not mean that its because its god! QM is the one and only aspect of science and mathematics that even indirectly suggests a god. The only one! Yet you come here with your overly inflated head, simply because you watched a few youtube videos on the matter, and act like a superior! I strongly doubt that you are a physicist, yet you lord the QM topic as though you had a vital part in its conception!
Nope. Your failure to engage evidence is not a failure of the evidence.
Your non theist belief that no God exists is not justified by your intellectual laziness.
Further, you have utterly failed to demonstrate a logical flaw in any of the many arguments and evidence I have presented. Your claim is hollow - and demonstrably false.
Unfortunately for you, science has ruled out that option. The Universe BEGAN to exist about 13.8 billion years ago. It cannot self-exist. This has been explained to you many times. Hopefully, the logic will stick this timePut yourself down a few pegs, we are clearly just as wise about the matters of the universe. Neither one of us can conclusively say the other is wrong. You don't know anything that i don't know. Therefore, don''t act like the authority on god. Learn to be a little open-minded, you learn more that way.
I understand you have great faith in your Naturalist dogma, but I'm sticking with science and reason. You have no case.
100% of the non theists claiming to have arguments and evidence (rather than being honest) have in fact failed to produce any such thing - including you.
There is a real problem with atheist intellectual foundations. I'm just providing the platform for you to expose yourselves.