Is non theism mindless?

[Ishmael]

2000 years ago there was no separation between knowledge and belief. And to a large degree the same trend has continued to these days. That's why some people here despise science, but they don't stop using the internet.

Both are critically important, "knowledge and belief". Any oafish can know of something. It takes real intelligence to form sound beliefs.

 

[MALCOM LUMUMBA]

Mzuvendi;2000 years ago there was no separation between knowledge and belief. And to a large degree the same trend has continued to these days. That's why some people here despise science, but they don't stop using the internet.

2000 years ago people were very smart knowledge and belief are the inherent features of a 100% functioning brain.

 

[Ishmael]

I think stupidity is reflected in what you have written above. Instead of indicating the problem with my post, you just erupt like a fool.

Atheists = Satan worshiper.

HAIL SATAN! THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS WILL GIVE YOU ULTIMATE BLISS! LET HIS INFLUENCE TAINT YOUR SOUL!

That's comforting and would certainly instill confidence in me alright. (excuse my sarcasm please)

 

[MALCOM LUMUMBA]

Ishmael;Both are critically important, "knowledge and belief". Any oafish can know of something. It takes real intelligence to form sound beliefs.

[h=1]A Mad Man's Weep[/h]A world of suspicion,
Freedom for sale with expiry date,
A world of vampires,
Prosperity through sucking lives,
We have become cannibals,
Everlastingly giving birth to animals.

Sex, drugs and homosexuality,
A modern teenagers balanced diet,
Abortions and baby killings,
A major epidemic to raise hospital funds,
Religion only a sedative,
Perfectly for removing weekend's guilty,
Fear of God remains a question,
Only we mad people can answer.

Marriages with warranty,
Divorce their recycling place,
Alcoholism puts families in jeopardy,
Orphans and widows are crucial like house windows,
Devaluation of marriages' dignity,
Love is for sale and church a supermarket,
Polygamy abuse women's right,
Husband's love is seasonal like the snow.

Wars for glory,
The world's national anthem,
While peace a fugitive, convicted for an attempt to unite us all.
I'm tortured because i host a criminal in my heart,
I'm stupid because i live in the grave yard, along with my ancestors humanity, reason and wisdom,
Hoping for a miracle of resurrection,
God bring them for only for seconds,
That they become witnesses for the criminal peace,
From which the world curses and condemns,
Hear me dear lord save this world from extinction.

 

[Ishmael]

Why Brother?

Cant tell if you are a Marxist Commie or just a dumbed down mindless atheist slave.

 

[Uso wa nyoka]

Atheists = Satan worshiper.

HAIL SATAN! THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS WILL GIVE YOU ULTIMATE BLISS! LET HIS INFLUENCE TAINT YOUR SOUL!

That's comforting and would certainly instill confidence in me alright. (excuse my sarcasm please)

You are just a fool who knows little. Can you show how all this cra..p you wrote contributes some sense to this thread?

 

[Uso wa nyoka]

Cant tell if you are a Marxist Commie or just a dumbed down mindless atheist slave.

Do I feel like I wan't to know you? I don't think so! Do I need to be known by you? Again, not really!
And, Am I a slave? No! Infact, The last time I checked, Im a master! Now who are you fool? Some lonely prostitute, still looking for company?

 

[Ishmael]

Ishmael;Both are critically important, "knowledge and belief". Any oafish can know of something. It takes real intelligence to form sound beliefs.

A Mad Man's Weep

A world of suspicion,
Freedom for sale with expiry date,
A world of vampires,
Prosperity through sucking lives,
We have become cannibals,
Everlastingly giving birth to animals.

.

According to non theists, we are just chemicals and animals with no purpose. Non theists don't follow science. There is nothing scientific about non theism.

Science and belief in God are perfectly compatible. Non theism is incompatible with reason.

 

[Ishmael]

You are a faggot and your god is a homo.

Now go suck his little dick.

Did the chemicals cause that delusion in that bone between your ears?

 

[Ishmael]

Your thread.!!! kwanini umeileta huku sasa,you have to accept changamoto..
it is dishonest to claim that this is the worst objection to theism, just because you define God as uncaused. You have no evidence and logical reason to presume that a being could exist at all never mind be eternal.

Mods did it and not me.

 

[Ishmael]

Do I feel like I wan't to know you? I don't think so! Do I need to be known by you? Again, not really!
And, Am I a slave? No! Infact, The last time I checked, Im a master! Now who are you fool? Some lonely prostitute, still looking for company?

I don't need to know weird people who can't even explain themselves.

 

[Nkwesa Makambo]

2000 years ago there was no separation between knowledge and belief. And to a large degree the same trend has continued to these days. That's why some people here despise science, but they don't stop using the internet.

How do you Separate belief from knowledge ?

Is using internet part of science ?

Earth being no longer a center of universe and rotating , are the two; beliefs or Knowledge ?

 

[Ishmael]

How do you Separate belief from knowledge ?

Is using internet part of science ?

Earth being no longer a center of universe and rotating , are the two; beliefs or Knowledge ?

I don't think said person will be able to answer you. Let us wait and see.

 

[Uso wa nyoka]

I don't need to know weird people who can't even explain themselves.

So funny,from what I see, its you who has failed to explain yourself, I dont even understand your arguement because you dont have a clear objective .You are just a confused troll who has mental issues, find a shrink, or find something to write, otherwise just keep quiet!

 

[AustinNdyetabula]

As far as i've noticed, all evidence of a deity provided by theists is circumstantial e.g the argument that the universe must have been created by a bearded man in the clouds. Galileo was originally persecuted because his heliocentric beliefs did not align with the geocentric beliefs of the church(an institution that wielded more power than the monarchy). What theists so successfully do is base their arguments of a deity's existence on things that are not yet well understood(some even attribute the easiest to explain things to a god), and what this does is give them support for an argument that is otherwise unfounded. Just because nobody can argue that a god did not create universe, does not make it true.
Faith in a deity means making a virtue out of not thinking. It's nothing to brag about. And those who preach faith, and enable and elevate it are intellectual slaveholders, keeping mankind in a bondage to fantasy and nonsense that has spawned and justified so much lunacy and destruction. The only appropriate attitude for man to have about the big questions is doubt. Doubt is humble.
Therefore, in my humble opinion, it is the theists who are mindless, and not the other way as suggested the the original poster. To be a non-theist takes a lot of thought, and involves divorcing the widely held belief in a deity(or several, if that's your thing). I guarantee it is very difficult to come across an uneducated anti-theist.
We should accept the unpredictably random nature of the universe, and live our lives the best ways we can.
There is NO evidence of a god(s)!:A S crown-2:😛oa:nerd:

 

[Ishmael]

As far as i've noticed, all evidence of a deity provided by theists is circumstantial e.g the argument that the universe must have been created by a bearded man in the clouds. Galileo was originally persecuted because his heliocentric beliefs did not align with the geocentric beliefs of the church(an institution that wielded more power than the monarchy). What theists so successfully do is base their arguments of a deity's existence on things that are not yet well understood(some even attribute the easiest to explain things to a god), and what this does is give them support for an argument that is otherwise unfounded. Just because nobody can argue that a god did not create universe, does not make it true.

We've already refuted these silly non theist talking points AustinNdyetabula. Many times.

I've given evidences for no Unicorns, FSM etc. You cannot give evidence for No God.

Most truth cannot be proven. Reasonable people give evidences. I provided massive evidences you cannot refute.
You non theists provide no evidences, just excuses for why you shouldn't have to justify your position of 'No God exists'.
Intellectual laziness is not evidence.

That's why you non theists are a marginal group
You expect physical evidence of a non-physical being?
That's like expecting to find water with your metal detector.

Faith in a deity means making a virtue out of not thinking. It's nothing to brag about. And those who preach faith, and enable and elevate it are intellectual slaveholders, keeping mankind in a bondage to fantasy and nonsense that has spawned and justified so much lunacy and destruction. The only appropriate attitude for man to have about the big questions is doubt. Doubt is humble.

Non theism is absolute madness if taken seriously. No Free-will, No moral truth or duties, 100% Chemically determined thoughts and behaviors, No purpose, no meaning, no significance to human life, etc......absolute madness.

Non theism = mindless madness. An non theist must keep his head in the sand to avoid thinking through the implications of non theism.

Therefore, in my humble opinion, it is the theists who are mindless, and not the other way as suggested the the original poster. To be a non-theist takes a lot of thought, and involves divorcing the widely held belief in a deity(or several, if that's your thing). I guarantee it is very difficult to come across an uneducated anti-theist.
We should accept the unpredictably random nature of the universe, and live our lives the best ways we can.
There is NO evidence of a god(s)!:A S crown-2:😛oa:nerd:

You still have no answers, no refutations, no arguments, no reason. - just blind mindless non theism.

 

[Ishmael]

So funny,from what I see, its you who has failed to explain yourself, I dont even understand your arguement because you dont have a clear objective .You are just a confused troll who has mental issues, find a shrink, or find something to write, otherwise just keep quiet!

BS You have provided no objective basis (true irrespective of individual belief) whatsoever. Even child rape cannot be objectively wrong if non theism is true. If we are just chemical animals, chemicals causally determine everything. There is no free-will or choice. Why is a child rapist wrong if he has no choice? Why is one chemical illusion of morality the 'right' illusion? Why does your chemical illusion constitute a moral duty upon another chemical animal who has a different illusion of raping children as 'good' for him?


Non theism is oafish blind mindless.

 

[Mzuvendi]

How do you Separate belief from knowledge ?

Is using internet part of science ?

Earth being no longer a center of universe and rotating , are the two; beliefs or Knowledge ?

Unbiased learning and reasoning could help one separate beliefs that don't hold water in modern days from knowledge. Now with regard to the internet, using it isn't science but the process that used to create it is a pure product of scientific endeavor. So if one thinks that scientific reasoning impair his or her religion convictions, he or she should as well stop becoming the beneficiary of scientific discoveries.

With respect to your last inquiry, beliefs are concepts you choose to believe based on what you know or based on the prevalent wisdom you decide not to ignore. For example, based on my knowledge I believe that earth isn't the center of the universe and it's indeed rotating.

 

[Ishmael]

Unbiased learning and reasoning could help one separate beliefs that don't hold water in modern days from knowledge. Now with regard to the internet, using it isn't science but the process that used to create it is a pure product of scientific endeavor. So if one thinks that scientific reasoning impair his or her religion convictions, he or she should as well stop becoming the beneficiary of scientific discoveries.

With respect to your last inquiry, beliefs are concepts you choose to believe based on what you know or based on the prevalent wisdom you decide not to ignore. For example, based on my knowledge I believe that earth isn't the center of the universe and it's indeed rotating.

Your logic IS flawed. Deeply and critically flawed.

You offer empty words. You have demonstrated no such thing.

I demonstrated exactly why you were wrong. As predicted, You have no answers or apologies - just empty words trying to cover your prideful non theist notions.

 

[AustinNdyetabula]

Ishmael, I find it funny how you claim that non-theist have no basis for their beliefs, yet do not provide me with conclusive evidence of a god. There is no way you are going to claim that "most truths cannot be proven". A truth is, by definition, a verifiable fact. How do you suggest a fact is verified other than it being proven?
And anyway, why should non-theists provide evidence rebutting a god? Surely you must realise that that is an exercise in futility. You cannot prove that something doesn't exist, the only thing that can be proven it that it does. Therefore it is up to the theists to support their claims with evidence, and not the other way around.

Non theism is absolute madness if taken seriously. No Free-will, No moral truth or duties, 100% Chemically determined thoughts and behaviors, No purpose, no meaning, no significance to human life, etc......absolute madness. "

This idea that humans, without belief in god, are just lustful murderous creatures is incredibly ignorant.