Is non theism mindless?

[TanzaniaLaw]

I'm arguing against non theism. If non theism is true, we are nothing but chemicals machines. Chemical machines can have no morality because they have no free-willed choice.

Now:
If we are 100% chemical animals and our chemicals cause child rape, why is child rape morally wrong?
Why is the child rapist morally culpable when he has no free-will choice?

Answer the questions?

Where are non theists?

 

[Nkwesa Makambo]

Where are non theists?

Wapo! Wanakula chabo na kusepa. Hawakutegemea kukutana na ukweli...

 

[TanzaniaLaw]

Wapo! Wanakula chabo na kusepa. Hawakutegemea kukutana na ukweli...

Naona ukweli huu umewauma sana.

 

[Mr Chin]

I love the thread. Hao majaa hawanaga akili.

 

[Mr Chin]

They have mind; but are " nincompoop "

Lugha za watu hizi

 

[Ishmael]

Ishmael, I find it funny how you claim that non-theist have no basis for their beliefs, yet do not provide me with conclusive evidence of a god. There is no way you are going to claim that "most truths cannot be proven". A truth is, by definition, a verifiable fact. How do you suggest a fact is verified other than it being proven?
And anyway, why should non-theists provide evidence rebutting a god? Surely you must realise that that is an exercise in futility. You cannot prove that something doesn't exist, the only thing that can be proven it that it does. Therefore it is up to the theists to support their claims with evidence, and not the other way around.


This idea that humans, without belief in god, are just lustful murderous creatures is incredibly ignorant.

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[Kwedu Kwazu]

So you have found a teacher here. Haven't you?

Do you have a teacher?

 

[Ishmael]

You expect physical evidence of a non-physical being?

That's like expecting to find water with your metal detector.

You non theists provide no evidences, just excuses for why you shouldn't have to justify your position of 'No God exists'.

Intellectual laziness is not evidence.

Good.

So, what cause did God begin from?

He has no beginning.

 

[Ishmael]

You expect physical evidence of a non-physical being?

That's like expecting to find water with your metal detector.

You non theists provide no evidences, just excuses for why you shouldn't have to justify your position of 'No God exists'.

Intellectual laziness is not evidence.

Wapo! Wanakula chabo na kusepa. Hawakutegemea kukutana na ukweli...

Naona umewagundua akina Free ideas na Nonda

 

[Mr Chin]

Hmm, what is it about belief or unbelief in God that can produce such anger and cruel comments among believers and unbelievers?

Mmmh what anger?

 

[Mr Chin]

So funny,from what I see, its you who has failed to explain yourself, I dont even understand your arguement because you dont have a clear objective .You are just a confused troll who has mental issues, find a shrink, or find something to write, otherwise just keep quiet!

Malicious reply

 

[Mr Chin]

As far as i've noticed, all evidence of a deity provided by theists is circumstantial e.g the argument that the universe must have been created by a bearded man in the clouds. Galileo was originally persecuted because his heliocentric beliefs did not align with the geocentric beliefs of the church(an institution that wielded more power than the monarchy). What theists so successfully do is base their arguments of a deity's existence on things that are not yet well understood(some even attribute the easiest to explain things to a god), and what this does is give them support for an argument that is otherwise unfounded. Just because nobody can argue that a god did not create universe, does not make it true.
Faith in a deity means making a virtue out of not thinking. It's nothing to brag about. And those who preach faith, and enable and elevate it are intellectual slaveholders, keeping mankind in a bondage to fantasy and nonsense that has spawned and justified so much lunacy and destruction. The only appropriate attitude for man to have about the big questions is doubt. Doubt is humble.
Therefore, in my humble opinion, it is the theists who are mindless, and not the other way as suggested the the original poster. To be a non-theist takes a lot of thought, and involves divorcing the widely held belief in a deity(or several, if that's your thing). I guarantee it is very difficult to come across an uneducated anti-theist.
We should accept the unpredictably random nature of the universe, and live our lives the best ways we can.
There is NO evidence of a god(s)!:A S crown-2:😛oa:nerd:

Now, give us the evidence of no God. Can you?

 

[Mr Chin]

Do you believe in God??

Yes I do Believe in God and love Him, what about you my friend.

 

[Uso wa nyoka]

Malicious reply

Correct Me!

 

[Mr Chin]

I am the truth seeker and I believe in humanity and moral values, If God exists in those categories then I believe him..
The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way, our knowledge has made us cynical our cleverness hard and unkind. We think too much and feel to little. The truth of life has been revealed, the truth will turn this world right side up. The truth is the only way, let us fight for the real truth. Let us fight for a world of reason. Let us do away with borders, hate and intolerance. Let us fight for science and reason. Let us unite, the truth of life is the only way. Nothing could be more important or worthwhile. If the truth means something to you check it for yourself, if survival means something to you. Check it for yourself.

How do you seek truth?
How do you know the truth?
What is the different between the truth and the "right"?

 

[Mr Chin]

Correct Me!

It is not a point of correct me, it is the accusation you said without evidence. Support your accusations.

 

[Mr Chin]

Sir;

It isn't too late to start retaking your medication. I have posted one post, you have answered me twice. It doesn't make sense.

With regard to the subject at hand, I believe you are confused and more importantly you aren't helping your own religion. Non theism covers a range of scenarios and what you have just described is a part of it, not the only one. It seems to me that your world is divided between those believe that God exists and those who don't.

The truth is a third of the world population believes in something else other than your God. They have their own deities. In the case that an individual from this population decides to take a position that his or her deity doesn't exist, by definition the individual is a non-theist too. Would you call this individual mindless?


Believing the existence of God isn't an argument or evidence. So there's nothing to engage or refute.

Wooows, you must be the one too. How did you know that he is taking meds?

 

[Uso wa nyoka]

It is not a point of correct me, it is the accusation you said without evidence. Support your accusations.

How did you reach the conclusion that Im accusing someone without evidence? Did you read the posts the person I referred to commented about Me in?

 

[Mr Chin]

How did you reach the conclusion that Im accusing someone without evidence? Did you read the posts the person I referred to commented about Me in?

Yes, I did and you are accusing them. How did you know that the person you accused had mental issues? Can you support that with evidence?

 

[Uso wa nyoka]

Yes, I did and you are accusing them. How did you know that the person you accused had mental issues? Can you support that with evidence?

Okay, lets say they dont have mental issues, can you clearly show me what they intended, with reference to what they were saying related to what I had posted then which led to their initial remarks?