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Alafu ndio nchi zao zinakupa misaada wewe mtanzagiza bila wao unakufa kwa kukosa madawa, chakula na teknolojia. Tuache kutumia vitu vyao tutumie vya china na kwingine
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Israel toka 1948 na Jeshi la IDF
Israel toka 1948 na Jeshi la IDF
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Acha na kutumia vitu vyao tumia vya wachina.
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Mkuu Khaligraph Jordan nataka tuwe objective sio subjective ili tuweze kupata ukweli mahaba ya kidini tuweke pembeni ili tujadili kwa uhuru.
1. Nimesema kwenye recent history hata kabla ya taifa la Israel kuanzishwa 1948 hao Israel walikuwa wanatandikwa mwanzo mwisho kiufupi tokea zile uprising zao dhidi ya Roman Empire mpaka 1943 walipounda jeshi lao kutetea wayahudi wa kipoland "polish ghetto uprising" wao ilikuwa vipigo tu na nmekupa heist yao kwamba kwenye hyo uprising ya mwisho walitandikwa,kutekwa na kuchinjwa wanajeshi 75,000 wa kiyahudi sasa kama hoja yako kuwa waisrael hawatandikwi sababu wana Mungu unawezaje kueleza hili?? Ina maana kabla ya 1948 hawakuwa na Mungu??
2. Bila marekani unasema Israel inaweza survive?? Wote tunafahamu military aid kwa billions of dollars inatolewa na marekani kila mwaka na hata msaada wa kidiplomasia mfano Trump aliutambua Jerusalem kuwa mji mkuu na hata alienda kushawishi wamachama wa UN wautambue pia ingawa aligonga mwamba na hata marekani ndio kikwazo kwa kuundwa taifa la palestina na kutambuliwa sasa unawezaje kusema Israel inasurvive bila ya Israel?? Narudi palepale kwanini kabla ya 1948 Wayahudi bila support ya mmarekani walikuwa wanatandikwa kila kona ya dunia ila baada ya kuwafanya vibaraka wao 1948 ndio Israel ikawa taifa strong?? Je huoni kuna correlation kati ta support ya marekani na kuongezeka kwa nguvu za kijeshi za Israel??
3. Na kingine inatakiwa tufahamu hao wazungu wanamsupport Israel sio sababu ya dini maana kuna mataifa mengi tu ya kikristo wazungu wanasupport vikundi vya kigaidi vya kiislam ila wanaisupport sababu ndio mshirika pekee ambaye sio majority muslim hapo mashariki ya kati na yupo strategic kwa faida za baadae mfano vita dhidi ya Iran,syria,Iraq n.k hao wazungu wanaona Israel ndio itakuwa base of operations na ndio maana wanamtumia kudhoofisha waarabu ila kama suala ni dini unaweza nieleza kwanini wayahudi kabla ya 1948 waliuawa na hayo mataifa uliyotaja mfano uhispania waliwahi timua kabisa wayahudi na kuwachinja,Ufaransa pia iliwahi fanya hivyo miaka ya 1000s hapo bado huko ulaya mashariki na Urusi wayahudi waliwahi chinjwa na kutimuliwa je kama issue ni dini kwanini hawakuwalinda zamani eti leo wawe upande wao??? Huoni kuna sababu kubwa zaidi ya dini inayowafanya wamtumie Israel kama kibaraka?
4. Unaposema hakuna taifa lenye historia kubwa ya vita kama Israel una maana gani?? Hivi Israel ilishawahi hata kujenga empire hapa duniani kama walivyofanya Ottoman empire ama Golden horde ya mongolia?? Kama hawajawahi je unajua basis gani kujenga hoja kuwa Israel ndio inahistoria kubwa zaidi ya vita kuliko taifa jingine lolote duniani
5. Hapo pia unasema Israel hawajawahi kupigwa au kufa wengi kuliko maadui ila kuna kitu kimoja unasahau. Hao Israel mara nyingi huwa wana counter attack wakihisi una mpango wa kuvamia hivyo vita inamalizwa kwenye ardhi yako na hivyo vifo vingi lazima viwe upande wa adui na sio Israel ila wangekuwa wanasubiri wavamiwe wa kwanza obvious vita ingepiganwa kwenye mitaa ya Israel hivyo wangekufa Israelites wengi kuliko maadui mbona iko wazi kabisa hii. Ukitaka kuona hili jikumbushe Yom kippur war ambapo baadhi ya maeneo Israel ilishambuliwa bila kugundua mapema na ndio maana mwanzoni mwa Vita Israel alizidiwa kabisa na kama sio mkono wa Wamarekani leo tungekuwa tunaongea mengine kwahiyo ikitokea mataifa ya uarabuni yakavamia kwa counter attack hiyo Israel watakufa wengi sana tu na penginepo kufutwa rasmi iwa taifa hilo la kidhalimu linalokaliza kimabavu ardhi ya watu.
1. Nimesema kwenye recent history hata kabla ya taifa la Israel kuanzishwa 1948 hao Israel walikuwa wanatandikwa mwanzo mwisho kiufupi tokea zile uprising zao dhidi ya Roman Empire mpaka 1943 walipounda jeshi lao kutetea wayahudi wa kipoland "polish ghetto uprising" wao ilikuwa vipigo tu na nmekupa heist yao kwamba kwenye hyo uprising ya mwisho walitandikwa,kutekwa na kuchinjwa wanajeshi 75,000 wa kiyahudi sasa kama hoja yako kuwa waisrael hawatandikwi sababu wana Mungu unawezaje kueleza hili?? Ina maana kabla ya 1948 hawakuwa na Mungu??
2. Bila marekani unasema Israel inaweza survive?? Wote tunafahamu military aid kwa billions of dollars inatolewa na marekani kila mwaka na hata msaada wa kidiplomasia mfano Trump aliutambua Jerusalem kuwa mji mkuu na hata alienda kushawishi wamachama wa UN wautambue pia ingawa aligonga mwamba na hata marekani ndio kikwazo kwa kuundwa taifa la palestina na kutambuliwa sasa unawezaje kusema Israel inasurvive bila ya Israel?? Narudi palepale kwanini kabla ya 1948 Wayahudi bila support ya mmarekani walikuwa wanatandikwa kila kona ya dunia ila baada ya kuwafanya vibaraka wao 1948 ndio Israel ikawa taifa strong?? Je huoni kuna correlation kati ta support ya marekani na kuongezeka kwa nguvu za kijeshi za Israel??
3. Na kingine inatakiwa tufahamu hao wazungu wanamsupport Israel sio sababu ya dini maana kuna mataifa mengi tu ya kikristo wazungu wanasupport vikundi vya kigaidi vya kiislam ila wanaisupport sababu ndio mshirika pekee ambaye sio majority muslim hapo mashariki ya kati na yupo strategic kwa faida za baadae mfano vita dhidi ya Iran,syria,Iraq n.k hao wazungu wanaona Israel ndio itakuwa base of operations na ndio maana wanamtumia kudhoofisha waarabu ila kama suala ni dini unaweza nieleza kwanini wayahudi kabla ya 1948 waliuawa na hayo mataifa uliyotaja mfano uhispania waliwahi timua kabisa wayahudi na kuwachinja,Ufaransa pia iliwahi fanya hivyo miaka ya 1000s hapo bado huko ulaya mashariki na Urusi wayahudi waliwahi chinjwa na kutimuliwa je kama issue ni dini kwanini hawakuwalinda zamani eti leo wawe upande wao??? Huoni kuna sababu kubwa zaidi ya dini inayowafanya wamtumie Israel kama kibaraka?
4. Unaposema hakuna taifa lenye historia kubwa ya vita kama Israel una maana gani?? Hivi Israel ilishawahi hata kujenga empire hapa duniani kama walivyofanya Ottoman empire ama Golden horde ya mongolia?? Kama hawajawahi je unajua basis gani kujenga hoja kuwa Israel ndio inahistoria kubwa zaidi ya vita kuliko taifa jingine lolote duniani
5. Hapo pia unasema Israel hawajawahi kupigwa au kufa wengi kuliko maadui ila kuna kitu kimoja unasahau. Hao Israel mara nyingi huwa wana counter attack wakihisi una mpango wa kuvamia hivyo vita inamalizwa kwenye ardhi yako na hivyo vifo vingi lazima viwe upande wa adui na sio Israel ila wangekuwa wanasubiri wavamiwe wa kwanza obvious vita ingepiganwa kwenye mitaa ya Israel hivyo wangekufa Israelites wengi kuliko maadui mbona iko wazi kabisa hii. Ukitaka kuona hili jikumbushe Yom kippur war ambapo baadhi ya maeneo Israel ilishambuliwa bila kugundua mapema na ndio maana mwanzoni mwa Vita Israel alizidiwa kabisa na kama sio mkono wa Wamarekani leo tungekuwa tunaongea mengine kwahiyo ikitokea mataifa ya uarabuni yakavamia kwa counter attack hiyo Israel watakufa wengi sana tu na penginepo kufutwa rasmi iwa taifa hilo la kidhalimu linalokaliza kimabavu ardhi ya watu.
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JERUSALEM HIYO , MAMBO MOTO MOTO
JERUSALEMU ; MAMBO MOTOMOTO
GONGA HAPO CHINI
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Mkuu umeandika vyema sana ila mwishoni umeharibu kabisa "Kufutwa rasmj kwa taifa hilo la kidhalimu linalokalia kimabavu ardhi ya watu' hapa umeweka udini mbele ambao umesema tuuweke pembeni.
Sina cha kuongeza mpaka uuondoe udini kwanza.
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Vipi na mazaga yao utaacha kutumia?
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NCHI YA KUPIGANA BAKORA NA KUTOANA VINYESI
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PADRI HUTAKI KUTUTANGAZIA USIONE AIBU ,
Mwenzako ametangaza huyu, GONGA HAPA Parish priest breaks the silence, shares that he is gay
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Secret Mark is unique among these in that it claims to be an expanded version of the canonical gospel of Mark, not an independent gospel. It contains two passages, otherwise unrecorded in the gospel accounts—the first fitting between Mark 10:34 and 10:35 and the second in the middle of Mark 10:46. Fragment 1 reads:
And they came to Bethany. And there was a woman there, whose brother was dead. And she came and fell down before Jesus and said to him: Son of David, have mercy on me.
But the disciples rebuked her. And in anger Jesus went away with her into the garden where the tomb was; and immediately a loud voice was heard from the tomb; and Jesus went forward and rolled away the stone from the door of the tomb.
And immediately he went in where the young man was, stretched out his hand and raised him up, grasping him by the hand. But the young man looked upon him and loved him, and began to entreat him that he might remain with him.
And when they had gone out from the tomb, they went into the young man’s house; for he was rich.
And after six days Jesus commissioned him; and in the evening the young man came to him, clothed only in linen cloth upon his naked body.
And he remained with him that night; for Jesus was teaching him the mysteries of the Kingdom of God. And from there he went away and returned to the other bank of the Jordan.
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Gay man says Pope Francis told him 'God made you like this' and 'it doesn't matter'
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Published 12:23 PM EDT May 21, 2018
A gay man who survived abuse from a Catholic priest in Chile said Pope Francis told him that his sexual orientation "doesn't matter" to him and that "God made you like this."
Juan Carlos Cruz, who met with the pope in late April, relayed details of their conversation to the Spanish newspaper El Pais.
“Juan Carlos, that you are gay doesn’t matter,” Cruz said Francis told him, according to Catholic news site Crux. “God made you like this and loves you like this and it doesn’t matter to me. The pope loves you like this. You have to be happy with who you are.”
Cruz said his sexuality came up in conversation because Chilean bishops had sought to use it to frame him as untrustworthy, a source of hurt he shared with the pope.
The Vatican, which does not comment on the pope's private comments as a policy, declined to confirm or deny the remarks to multiple news outlets.
The remarks recalled Francis' much-discussed comment on gay priests in 2013.
"If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?" the pope told reporters at the time. "They shouldn't be marginalized. The tendency (to be homosexual) is not the problem."
Christopher Lamb, Vatican correspondent of London-based Catholic publication The Tablet, told The Guardian that the remarks now attributed to Francis go further, signaling a shift.
“It goes beyond ‘who am I to judge?’ to ‘you are loved by God,’” Lamb told the newspaper. “I don’t think he has changed church teaching but he’s demonstrating an affirmation of gay Catholics, something that has been missing over the years in Rome.”
Additionally, a transgender man met with Pope Francis in 2015, according to the National Catholic Reporter, with the pope telling him that "You are a son of God and the church loves you and accepts you as you are," per the Spanish newspaper Hoy.
The church's official teaching on homosexuality refers to it as "intrinsically disordered," the Associated Press noted, and any remarks to Cruz do not amount to a public pronouncement.
Cruz suffered abuse from notorious pedophile and priest Fernando Karadima, who was found guilty by the Vatican in 2011 of abusing dozens of minors over decades. All of Chile's active bishops offered to resign Friday in the wake of sexual abuse by the nation's clergy.
The pope apologized earlier this year after describing Chilean victims' claims about a particular bishop, Juan Barros, as baseless "slander."
Cruz said in El Pais that Francis called what clergy did to him "awful" and "a terrible evil," according to Crux.
“He told me, ‘Help me so that the Holy Spirit guides me so that I know well what I have to do,’” Cruz said.
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“Do we really want to entrust our souls to a man who had a disciple who ran around with nothing but a towel on?” (John 21:7)
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Cha mmarekani, na muingereza huna pia?😱
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😂😂😂😂😂😂 Huna namna mkuu wamarekani si ndio haohao wanaofanya ushoga kama wayahudi kwa mujibu wa maelezo yako acha kutumia vitu vyao
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Hapana mkuu sijaweka udini bali kuliita taifa dhalimu hiyo ni kauli ya kidiplomasia kuelezea matendo ya nchi moja kuikalia kimabavu nchi nyingine huru mfano crime kukaliwa na Urusi,western Sahara kukaliwa na Morocco kote huku tunaita ni tawala dhalimu bila kujali ni dini gani inatawala so naomba usiingalie kwa jicho la kidini bali kisiasa zaidi.
Ni hayo tu
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