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Na hiyo ndio point wangelinda mpaka wao sio kwenda kuleta shobo kule wakati uwezo mdogo.. Haya majamaa yanaishi kwa denial duu
Na hiyo ndio point wangelinda mpaka wao sio kwenda kuleta shobo kule wakati uwezo mdogo.. Haya majamaa yanaishi kwa denial duuWewe unajua wazi kwamba haukua uamuzi wa busara KDF kwenda Somalia, juzi tu ulisema kama sababu ilikua ni kuzuia Alshabab kuteka watalii, ni bora mngepeleka KDF ili kuimarisha doria katika mpaka wa Somalia wakati mmkiendelea kujenga ukuta.
Sasa ninakuuliza swali, gharama ya kuwalinda watalii wasitekwe na Alshabab ni uhai wa wakenya wanaouliwa kila siku?. Kabla ya KDF kwenda Somalia na baada ya KDF kwenda Somalia, ni kipindi kipi Kenya ilikua na amani?.
Jaribu kukaa chini na kujichunguza jinsi mnavyofikia maamuzi yenu, msijisikie vibaya kukubali pale mnaposhauriwa, kuendelea na ukaidi kudhani kwamba hamkosei, ni kuendelea kulimbikiza ujinga.
Magari yalikuwa APC ila hayakuwa mine resistant (MRAPs)
Hivi Yale magari yaliyonunuliwa kwa wingi ili kuwakinga POLISI wa Kenya dhidi ya haya maharamia yapo wapi?,. Kenya mtatumia mbinu gani kupunguza mashambulizi ya namna hii kwasababu yanazidi kuongezeka. R.I.P.
Even before kdf went to somalia.Na hiyo ndio point wangelinda mpaka wao sio kwenda kuleta shobo kule wakati uwezo mdogo.. Haya majamaa yanaishi kwa denial duu
Point ni kwamba, kwanini msinfeimarisha ulinzi katika hizo sehemu ambazo Alshabab walikua wakiwavamia?, ingekuwa cheap, effective and non bloody. Kitendo cha kupeleka KDF Somalia, kinawafaharimu ten times, ulikua ni uamuzi wa kukurupuka kama mlivyoamua kujenga SGR la zamani kwa bei ya juu, nalo linawagharimu pesa nyingi kuzilipa wakati sio profitable.Even before kdf went to somalia.
North Eastern Kenya was not safe they had what was popularly known as shifta bandits that reigned terror on innocent Travellers.
Ina maana wakati mnayanunua hamkujua tatizo la mines?. Ndio sababu tunasema ninyi huwa mnakurupuka Sana.Magari yalikuwa APC ila hayakuwa mine resistant (MRAPs)
Alshabaab was at it's strongest and was gaining more territory and we had to uproot the problem from it's sourcePoint ni kwamba, kwanini msinfeimarisha ulinzi katika hizo sehemu ambazo Alshabab walikua wakiwavamia?, ingekuwa cheap, effective and non bloody. Kitendo cha kupeleka KDF Somalia, kinawafaharimu ten times, ulikua ni uamuzi wa kukurupuka kama mlivyoamua kujenga SGR la zamani kwa bei ya juu, nalo linawagharimu pesa nyingi kuzilipa wakati sio profitable.
That's why we are investing more in air transport.Ina maana wakati mnayanunua hamkujua tatizo la mines?. Ndio sababu tunasema ninyi huwa mnakurupuka Sana.
Punguza theories wakati wakenya wengi wanaendelea kupoteza maisha. Mngeweka KDF mpakani ili wasivuke kuingia Kenya, maisha ya wakenya na gharama kubwa mbayoipata isinfetokea. Mambo ya ndani ya Somalia yanawahusu nini kama mngefanikiwa kuimarisha ulinzi katika mpaka wenu na Somalia?. Sasa mumejiingiza katika vita bila kuwa na taarifa za kutosha, inawagharimu maisha na pesa nyingi.Alshabaab was at it's strongest and was gaining more territory and we had to uproot the problem from it's source
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Huku Tanzania sehemu sumbufu zote zilizokua hazitulii tuliweka kuwa kanda maalum BT cjui ka unajua hiyo kanda maalum ni nn..Even before kdf went to somalia.
North Eastern Kenya was not safe they had what was popularly known as shifta bandits that reigned terror on innocent Travellers.
Tunachotaka ni kuona POLISI hawauliwi hovyo hovyo kiasi hiki, hayo Maneno ya air transport, au MRAPS hazitoshi, tumechoka kuyasikia, ni miaka nane sasa, wakenya wanaendelea kuuliwa,kila siku mnaleta Maneno tofauti.That's why we are investing more in air transport.
Alafu pia kumbuka MRAPS ziko ila they can't exhaust the needs for transport .
Sawa mlitaka kuuproot ndio but y msingefanya upelelezi wa kutosha mjue huko somalia hao jamaa organizers wao kina nani???.. Saa nyie mnadhani kwa kuua hao wapiganaji bila kujua viongozi wao kuwa vita vtaisha??? Kaz mnayo asee ka na majenerali wenu ndio wanawaza ka nyie hum ndani aseee yajayo yanafurahishaAlshabaab was at it's strongest and was gaining more territory and we had to uproot the problem from it's source
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Wewe ndo uko na Theories nyingi.Punguza theories wakati wakenya wengi wanaendelea kupoteza maisha. Mngeweka KDF mpakani ili wasivuke kuingia Kenya, maisha ya wakenya na gharama kubwa mbayoipata isinfetokea. Mambo ya ndani ya Somalia yanawahusu nini kama mngefanikiwa kuimarisha ulinzi katika mpaka wenu na Somalia?. Sasa mumejiingiza katika vita bila kuwa na taarifa za kutosha, inawagharimu maisha na pesa nyingi.
Kwani unadahani hakuna kambi za Jeshi Mandera ama North Eastern?...ama hawako huko full time?Huku Tanzania sehemu sumbufu zote zilizokua hazitulii tuliweka kuwa kanda maalum BT cjui ka unajua hiyo kanda maalum ni nn..
Kifupi wakenya tokeni somalia afu hilo eneo fungueni hata kambi ya jeshi ili patrol iwe endelevu na hata kufanya inteligencia inakua rahisi maana wanajeshi wanakua huko full time sa sijui mliwaza nn kwenda kuingia somalia asee nawaonea huruma
Kufikia Sasa alshabaab viongozi wao karibu wote wameuwawa...waliobaki wamepoteza morale .Sawa mlitaka kuuproot ndio but y msingefanya upelelezi wa kutosha mjue huko somalia hao jamaa organizers wao kina nani???.. Saa nyie mnadhani kwa kuua hao wapiganaji bila kujua viongozi wao kuwa vita vtaisha??? Kaz mnayo asee ka na majenerali wenu ndio wanawaza ka nyie hum ndani aseee yajayo yanafurahisha
Tunachotaka kuona na wananchi wakenya wakiishi kwa amani bila kuuliwa kama ilivyokua kabla ya KDF kwenda Somalia, hayo mengine hatuyahitaji.Wewe ndo uko na Theories nyingi.
Unadhani hayo yote uliyo yasema hayakuwa possibilities?
Kwani unadhani Kdf hawakuwako ama hawako mipakani?..
Alshabaab had grown so strong that they were on the verge of controlling Indian ocean sea routes.Sawa mlitaka kuuproot ndio but y msingefanya upelelezi wa kutosha mjue huko somalia hao jamaa organizers wao kina nani???.. Saa nyie mnadhani kwa kuua hao wapiganaji bila kujua viongozi wao kuwa vita vtaisha??? Kaz mnayo asee ka na majenerali wenu ndio wanawaza ka nyie hum ndani aseee yajayo yanafurahisha