Kenya -TZ Trade Wars

[vulcan]

Hashtag #FairTradeKE sur Twitter

Tanzania wants to sell their goods to Kenya, but they don't want to see Kenyan goods in TZ.
this kind of dump-fuckery is un-fathomable, bongolalas think we have no brains.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Bring it on!

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

Agriculture has failed in kenya. Tz is provinding most of onions, tomatoes, , potatoes,oranges, wheat, natural Gas etc to kenya thats is the only cheap option reaginally.
kenya cannot afford TZ Gold,Tanzanite, diamond.
Kenya has been for the last 5 years been exporting manunafutuered good to Tz. Tz manufaturing is on the rise.. There is nothing new that is manufuctured that can be exported to TZ.#MATAGA ..
Uhuru kenyatta was given a working economy by Kibaki and Quickly run it down

 

[vulcan]

Agriculture has failed in kenya. Tz is provinding most of onions, tomatoes, , potatoes,oranges, wheat, natural Gas etc to kenya thats is the only cheap option reaginally.
kenya cannot afford TZ Gold,Tanzanite, diamond.
Kenya has been for the last 5 years been exporting manunafutuered good to Tz. Tz manufaturing is on the rise.. There is nothing new that is manufuctured that can be exported to TZ.#MATAGA ..
Uhuru kenyatta was given a working economy by Kibaki and Quickly run it down

ha ha Agriculture has failed in Kenya??? let us assume you are right, why then block Kenyan goods? if you are producing more while our economy has failed, why introduce many tariffs and restrictions to frustrate Kenyan exporters to TZ? will it not make more sense to encourage more trade and create a bigger market for your "efficient" factories and farmers??
Magufuli policies are just loop-sided.

 

[Mkikuyu- Akili timamu]

ha ha Agriculture has failed in Kenya??? let us assume you are right, why then block Kenyan goods? if you are producing more while our economy has failed, why introduce many tariffs and restrictions to frustrate Kenyan exporters to TZ? will it not make more sense to encourage more trade and create a bigger market for your "efficient" factories and farmers??
Magufuli policies are just loop-sided.

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Tz is industrializing, for example kenya used to export cement to tz millions of tonnes The problem with Tz was lack of industries, they were so dowm on industrialisation that they dependend on Kenya for Manufactured goods. NOT ANY MORE.
#MATAGA is bearing fruit, and nothing can stop it

 

[Mikopo Chefuchefu]

There is no trade wars. The thing is, Tz economy is becoming stronger and Kenyans can not keep to the terms about that.

 

[pilato93]

Agriculture has failed in kenya. Tz is provinding most of onions, tomatoes, , potatoes,oranges, wheat, natural Gas etc to kenya thats is the only cheap option reaginally.
kenya cannot afford TZ Gold,Tanzanite, diamond.
Kenya has been for the last 5 years been exporting manunafutuered good to Tz. Tz manufaturing is on the rise.. There is nothing new that is manufuctured that can be exported to TZ.#MATAGA ..
Uhuru kenyatta was given a working economy by Kibaki and Quickly run it down

Absolute right

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[pilato93]

Tz is industrializing, for example kenya used to export cement to tz millions of tonnes The problem with Tz was lack of industries, they were so dowm on industrialisation that they dependend on Kenya for Manufactured goods. NOT ANY MORE.
#MATAGA is bearing fruit, and nothing can stop it

Not only cement ,soap, plastic, cooking oil,and many more

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[concordile 101]

Hiii kitu ilianzia kwenye ile ishuu ya ngan na gesi ambapo kenya ilikuwa inablock while at same time ilikuwa ina export more goods as compared in retaliation tanzania decided partial embargo on kenyan goods.
All in all kiukweli busara inatakiwa itumike ili kuweza kumaliza hili tatzo. Bado tanzania au kenya zinahitajiana sana. Kenya haiwez zalisha kila kitu wala tanzania haiwez zalisha kila kitu. Mfano mdogo kenya wanategemea sana vitunguu swaumu, mchele, mahindi,maharage na mambo mengi chungu mzima toka tanzania na hata wafanyaje hawawez jitosheleza maana kuna sudan kule ambao almost 90 :% wanategemea toka kenya na uganda na hizo chini nahisi hata ten percent hawajaweza timiza.
Hizo bidhaa tukiwa serious kiukweli vinaweza ingizia pesa zaid hata ya hizo ngano tunazokimbilia. Na ukweli kwa tanzania tuseme ukweli hakuna ngano ya kutosheleza kakiwanda kadogo kama nyati walau hata kwa miez sita zaid tuna import.
Kwa upande kwangu wakenya kwenye ishu ya ngano wako sawa.
Lakini tukija kwenu wakenya mko patriotic sana mpaka mnakela sana,
Tukija kwenye importation kenya ilikuwa ina import sana toka tanzania na hata tukija kwenye majority economic benefits watanzania wengi walifaidika hasa wale waliojitoa muhanga kufanya biashara ila wale waliotegemea tuuze magar kenya waliendelea kulalama.
Hivi ni wakenya wangapi walinufaika kwa wao kuuza pipi za pk au vyombo vya plastic as compared kwa wale watz tuliokuwa tunapeleka mchele, mahindi, maharage, viazi, matikitti, vitunguu swaumu.
Hivi ukienda namanga enzi zile gari ngapi toka kenya zilivusha mizigo as compared to tanzania cars into kenya?
Kwangu mimi naona sisi watanzania tuna nafasi sana ya kutengeneza pesa zaid ya hata hao wakenya na tuna uwezo wa kucompete tena tukawini soko lao zaidi yao tukiwa na idea ya kuweka tofauti zetu pemben. Wakenya waache yale masuala sijui huyu sio mkenya asifungue hiki kwetu mfano wa azam kule mombasa, tushindane kwa pesa na uwezo na akili.
Kama nina uwezo na kulipia kodi ya kununua marcopolo paradiso g7 dd1800 niruhusiwe nije niajiri wakenya badala ya kuzuia eti nitamuua modern coast.
More than that matajiri wa kitanzania achen ukiritimba miaka nenda rudi umeng'ang'ania huachii kizazi kijacho. Shenzy zenu

 

[Geza Ulole]

Ni ujinga wa hali ya juu kwa Kenya kupinga uwepo wa TFDA yet imepokea awards. Kisa kwa ku-ban mercury contamined sugar from Somalia n other counterfeit food n drugs products from Kenya! Mind u TFDA is the only highly certified body in the whole EA region.

 

[concordile 101]

Not only cement ,soap, plastic, cooking oil,and many more

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Alll those resources zipo tanzania. Cooking oil inatengenezwa kwa kutumia mawese. Kigoma mafuta dumu kipindi cha masika yanafika mpaka 25000 kwa dumu la 20ltr. Mashine ya kuyaprocess ndogo tu unapata kwa usd 5000lakin nani awekeze mtu yuko radhi anunue harrier atambie mtaan ila aendelee kuwa mtumwa wa bosi. Kinachotusumbua sisi sio wakenya ni udhubutu na elimu

 

[diamond d]

Kwani Kenya mnalia nn ss kwani lazima muingize goods zenu Tz? Achen bwana

ha ha Agriculture has failed in Kenya??? let us assume you are right, why then block Kenyan goods? if you are producing more while our economy has failed, why introduce many tariffs and restrictions to frustrate Kenyan exporters to TZ? will it not make more sense to encourage more trade and create a bigger market for your "efficient" factories and farmers??
Magufuli policies are just loop-sided.

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[vulcan]

Hiii kitu ilianzia kwenye ile ishuu ya ngan na gesi ambapo kenya ilikuwa inablock while at same time ilikuwa ina export more goods as compared in retaliation tanzania decided partial embargo on kenyan goods.
All in all kiukweli busara inatakiwa itumike ili kuweza kumaliza hili tatzo. Bado tanzania au kenya zinahitajiana sana. Kenya haiwez zalisha kila kitu wala tanzania haiwez zalisha kila kitu. Mfano mdogo kenya wanategemea sana vitunguu swaumu, mchele, mahindi,maharage na mambo mengi chungu mzima toka tanzania na hata wafanyaje hawawez jitosheleza maana kuna sudan kule ambao almost 90 :% wanategemea toka kenya na uganda na hizo chini nahisi hata ten percent hawajaweza timiza.
Hizo bidhaa tukiwa serious kiukweli vinaweza ingizia pesa zaid hata ya hizo ngano tunazokimbilia. Na ukweli kwa tanzania tuseme ukweli hakuna ngano ya kutosheleza kakiwanda kadogo kama nyati walau hata kwa miez sita zaid tuna import.
Kwa upande kwangu wakenya kwenye ishu ya ngano wako sawa.
Lakini tukija kwenu wakenya mko patriotic sana mpaka mnakela sana,
Tukija kwenye importation kenya ilikuwa ina import sana toka tanzania na hata tukija kwenye majority economic benefits watanzania wengi walifaidika hasa wale waliojitoa muhanga kufanya biashara ila wale waliotegemea tuuze magar kenya waliendelea kulalama.
Hivi ni wakenya wangapi walinufaika kwa wao kuuza pipi za pk au vyombo vya plastic as compared kwa wale watz tuliokuwa tunapeleka mchele, mahindi, maharage, viazi, matikitti, vitunguu swaumu.
Hivi ukienda namanga enzi zile gari ngapi toka kenya zilivusha mizigo as compared to tanzania cars into kenya?
Kwangu mimi naona sisi watanzania tuna nafasi sana ya kutengeneza pesa zaid ya hata hao wakenya na tuna uwezo wa kucompete tena tukawini soko lao zaidi yao tukiwa na idea ya kuweka tofauti zetu pemben. Wakenya waache yale masuala sijui huyu sio mkenya asifungue hiki kwetu mfano wa azam kule mombasa, tushindane kwa pesa na uwezo na akili.
Kama nina uwezo na kulipia kodi ya kununua marcopolo paradiso g7 dd1800 niruhusiwe nije niajiri wakenya badala ya kuzuia eti nitamuua modern coast.
More than that matajiri wa kitanzania achen ukiritimba miaka nenda rudi umeng'ang'ania huachii kizazi kijacho. Shenzy zenu

Mkikuyu- Akili timamu one of your country men can see my point.
A nation that has a comparative advantage like you claim, will encourage free trade..what TZ is doing to Kenyan traders at the border is just mind-boggling. It does not make sense at all.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Even Uganda was in TZ to learn best practices to counter substandard goods from Kenya!

 

[pilato93]

Alll those resources zipo tanzania. Cooking oil inatengenezwa kwa kutumia mawese. Kigoma mafuta dumu kipindi cha masika yanafika mpaka 25000 kwa dumu la 20ltr. Mashine ya kuyaprocess ndogo tu unapata kwa usd 5000lakin nani awekeze mtu yuko radhi anunue harrier atambie mtaan ila aendelee kuwa mtumwa wa bosi. Kinachotusumbua sisi sio wakenya ni udhubutu na elimu

Sasa hivi wengi ndio tumeamka sana hasa maana tulikuwa tunalisha viwanda vya Kenya na kuua vyetu kama sasa dunia inavyolisha viwanda vya China Japan, India Malaysia na vinginevyo Asia

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[diamond d]

Shida nyie wakenya mnadhani tz lazima mlete bidhaa zenu ishu hapa ni kuruhusu trade kulingana na mahitaji niliona malori mengi yanataka kuingia tz hadi nikawa naiiuliza inamaana hawa wanadhani huku kwetu hatuna viwanda ama?

Mkikuyu- Akili timamu one of your country men can see my point.
A nation that has a comparative advantage like you claim, will encourage free trade..what TZ is doing to Kenyan traders at the border is just mind-boggling. It does not make sense at all.

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[concordile 101]

Mkikuyu- Akili timamu one of your country men can see my point.
A nation that has a comparative advantage like you claim, will encourage free trade..what TZ is doing to Kenyan traders at the border is just mind-boggling. It does not make sense at all.

sorry maybe because you are kenyan, even we tanzania face the same harrasment when importing goods to kenya. I have experienced this myself. I was one those who imported maize and other agricultural commodities into kenya. You cant feel it when you are a kenyan importing because you you know the ups and down of your country men same as we tanzania see when importing goods into tz. What i mean, if we want a free and fair trade lets put all those harrasment from each other, then we can do business otherwise if cant put sides apart lets continue with the trade wars till we get sensible people who cant put things intact

 

[diamond d]

Wao machojuu kwenye Gdp ifike 1000, hataree

sorry maybe because you are kenyan, even we tanzania face the same harrasment when importing goods to kenya. I have experienced this myself. I was one those who imported maize and other agricultural commodities into kenya. You cant feel it when you are a kenyan importing because you you know the ups and down of your country men same as we tanzania see when importing goods into tz. What i mean, if we want a free and fair trade lets put all those harrasment from each other, then we can do business otherwise if cant put sides apart lets continue with the trade wars till we get sensible people who cant put things intact

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[concordile 101]

Sasa hivi wengi ndio tumeamka sana hasa maana tulikuwa tunalisha viwanda vya Kenya na kuua vyetu kama sasa dunia inavyolisha viwanda vya China Japan, India Malaysia na vinginevyo Asia

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Ndio maana nikasema ishu sio wakenya ila ishu iko kwetu na hasa viongozi wetu. Hatuna watu ambao wanaweza waka foresee future business environment au economic impacts on decision they make ndo maana viwanda vyetu vinafunguliwabkwa matamko. Ikotokea kuna soko la nyan basi kila mtu atatengeneza kiwand acha nyani, likiyumba wote chali hatuna ile ndio kuna soko la nyan ila wale nyani wanahitaji labda pellets za kuwabebea na kinachotenheneza pellets labda ni ya mabaki ya maganda ya mbegu za mawese so. Basi nifungue kiwanda cha pellets basi hakuna

 

[concordile 101]

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Shida nyie wakenya mnadhani tz lazima mlete bidhaa zenu ishu hapa ni kuruhusu trade kulingana na mahitaji niliona malori mengi yanataka kuingia tz hadi nikawa naiiuliza inamaana hawa wanadhani huku kwetu hatuna viwanda ama?

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Yale malori meng ni wazawa wanaojaribu kuingiza bidhaa toka kenya. Hivi unahabari kuna bandari kuna kila kitu lakin kuna mtu anaenda kununua nguo kenya na kuja kuziuza kariakoo kwa jumla? Kama unabisha panda dar express nenda nairobi walifungua buti chungulia