Madaktari acheni kutuchanganya na hii kauli yenu tata ya Critical but Stable

[french]

Hoja yangu ni hiyo Kauli ya Critical but Stable tu na hakuna jingine tafadhali. Kwahiyo unataka kumaanisha kuwa Mimi GENTAMYCINE nina hamu huyu Mgonjwa wangu afariki dunia? Mkuu hebu tengua upesi kauli yako na nitake radhi sasa hivi.

mimi nimekuelewa sana mzee. hii kauli niliiskia kwa mara ya kwanza kipindi mandela anaumwa,nikajiuliza sana maana ya hii kauli nini. na baada ya muda si mrefu akafariki. kwa kifupi ukipewa hii kauli na madaktar kajiandae kuzika

 

[GENTAMYCINE]

Huyu mbwa anaombea mabaya tokea jana

Mbwa ni aliyekuzaa.

 

[GENTAMYCINE]

Doctor hatakiwi kukukatisha tamaa.

Kwahiyo Mkuu kwa maelezo yako haya unataka kusema kwamba huyu Mgonjwa wangu ameshafariki / kafa?

 

[Kisu Cha Ngariba]

Watu wanakaa ICU miezi mitatu nini hizi siku 14 tu. Critical but stable tuwaulize walioingia madarasani watueleze maana yake.

Unaweza kutusaidia Dada Sky.

 

[GENTAMYCINE]

Acha kutisha watu wewe mama

Naona unalazimisha kutafuta Bwana humu jamvini. Endelea tu Mkuu.

 

[Poise]

Asante kwa kunielewa Mkuu na hicho ulichokisema ndicho hasa nilichokuwa nakitaka na ndiyo maana unaona hata uzi wenyewe nimekuja kuuanzisha huku katika Forum ya Madaktari ila nashangaa Watu wamekuja huku na kutaka kulazimisha yao na kuulazimisha huu uzi uwe ni kama wa Kisiasa zaidi.

Hilo suala la Critical but Stable ni suala langu binafsi kwakuwa hata Mimi pia ninauguza hivyo nimewauliza Madaktari ili waweze kunielimisha na kunipa ufafanuzi wao wa Kitaaluma na Kiuweledi kabisa ili basi na Mimi niweze kuongeza maarifa fulani.

Kuugua kwa Mheshimiwa Tundu Lissu kusiwe ni Kifungo au Kikwazo kwa sisi wengine kuhoji na kupata ufafanuzi wa masuala ya tiba.

Tatizo ni kwamba hadi sasa CDM kila jambo likija jukwaani wanadhania wanasemwa wao au mtu anamzungumzia lisu, kitu ambacho siyo sahihi kufanya kila mtu awaze juu ya lisu wakati wapo watu wengine pia wana matatizo kama ya lisu au hata zaidi.

Mfano, msiba wa Familia ya Teu ni simanzi kubwa sana kwa Taifa, ndugu na jamaa.

Ila ukiandika tu Uzi kuhusu msiba huo wa familia ya Teu wao wanaaza kusema nataka kuhamisha mada ya lisu, sasa hivi lisu ndiyo habari ya mjinj na watachafua Uzi wote.

Ndiyo kama kwako unahitaji kujua matumizi ya usemi huu "Critical but stable" na maana yake na hali halisi ya mgonjwa.

Ila naona, wengi wanaandika mara "hafi ng'o, oooh oooh tunamlipia" , tunamuombea" sasa nashindwa kuelewa mbona wewe kwenye huu uzi mbona hujataja jina la mgonjwa au lisu!?

Any way, watoto wa kambo na yatima ni ngumu sana kuelewa kuwa wanathaminiwa na familia ambazo siyo zao.

 

[GENTAMYCINE]

Nimecheka sana yaani tatizo la watu Wa Jf hawasomi maelezo ya mwanzo kwa umakini wanakimbilia kutoa shiit yaani ndio Hawa mtihani anajibu bila kusoma maelekezo mngemuelewa huyu kaka msinge lopoka shiit

Asante kwa kunielewa Mkuu. Hiki ndicho Kizazi cha sasa cha Kipumbavu kilichopo na nadhani sasa hata Wewe umeshagundua ni kwanini Wanafunzi wengi nchini Tanzania huwa wanafeli vibaya sana Mitihani yao kwani tatizo lao kubwa ni Kukurupuka na kuwa na Kiherehere cha kukimbilia kujibu maswali pasipo / bila hata kusoma instructions vizuri na kuyaelwa maswali yanataka nini au yanasemaje.

Huwa nawapenda sana Members wenye akili kubwa na nzuri kama zako Mkuu humu Jamvini JF. Safi sana na hongera mno.

 

[GENTAMYCINE]

Acha kujishaua nani huko Tarime alivamiwa kiasi kama Lissu? nani kapigwa risasi za tumbo kama yeye? tunajua hata mnaingia kwenye maombi kwa ajili ya kumwombea mabaya... hamtasikia hilo Mungu yupo na hata Ayub aliharibiwa mwili wote lakini roho yake ilikuwa salama

Nahisi hii post imekuja katika wrong forum Mkuu. Hapa hoja iliyopo mezani ni hii Kauli tata / changanishi ya Kidaktari isemayo Critical but Stable na siyo huo upuuzi / upupu wako uliouandika. Siku nyingine uwe unajitahidi Kwanza kusoma uzi wote vizuri na uuelewe ili unapokuja kuchangia humu tuweze kushawishika kuwa na Wewe ni Kipanga mwenzetu ila ulichoandika ni kinyume na neno Kipanga.

 

[Doris Gabriel]

Asante kwa kunielewa Mkuu. Hiki ndicho Kizazi cha sasa cha Kipumbavu kilichopo na nadhani sasa hata Wewe umeshagundua ni kwanini Wanafunzi wengi nchini Tanzania huwa wanafeli vibaya sana Mitihani yao kwani tatizo lao kubwa ni Kukurupuka na kuwa na Kiherehere cha kukimbilia kujibu maswali pasipo / bila hata kusoma instructions vizuri na kuyaelwa maswali yanataka nini au yanasemaje.

Huwa nawapenda sana Members wenye akili kubwa na nzuri kama zako Mkuu humu Jamvini JF. Safi sana na hongera mno.

Usijali mkuu kikubwa maelezo ya kipumbavu yapotezee jali maelezo yamsingi yafanyie kazi

 

[Joseverest]

Mkuu GENTAMYCINE mimi sio mtaalamu wala docta ila pitiapitia zangu nimeokota huko haya maelezo...

Wataalamu watafafanua zaidi kiundani hata kwa kiswahili

Critical means severely ill, not out of the danger zone, stable means no further deterioration e.g. no new problems with circulation, ventilation/oxygenation (breathing or mechanical ventilation), kidney function, liver function, bowel function, blood clotting and brain function as far as can be gauged in these very sick patients often heavily sedated.
Critical but stable can also apply to younger patients.

In layman's terms, critical but stable means someone who is severely ill but their condition is not deteriorating at the present time. In other words, the doctors cannot predict what will happen, but the patient is very ill.

Source:
Forumsuk.culture.language.english


Critical = "life-threatening"
stable = "getting neither worse nor better"
Someone whose life is threatened can have their condition worsening or improving, while at the same time still remaining life-threatening. Consider someone whose heart is beating irregularly... it can either stop completely (getting worse) or beat more regularly but still be dangerous (getting better). Stable implies there's no change in the condition, even though that condition remains serious.

 

[GENTAMYCINE]

GENTAMYCINE, mimi si daktari wala tibabu, ila mada yako imenisukuma kutafuta maana ya hiyo kauli yz Madaktari ya mgonjwa kuwa katika hali ya kutibiwa wanayoiita critical but stable.

A Critical but Stable condition, in hospitals, indicates that the patient is in bad state but not likely to get worse in the short-term. A patient in critical condition implies that vital signs are not stable and not within normal limits e.g. a patient may be unconscious or indicators are unfavourable[/COLOR].

Maneno yafuatayo hutumika pia, mara kwa mara:
Critical, Comfortable, Progressing well

Kwa hivyo basi, madaktari wanaomtibu mgonjwa hutumia maneno hayo kuelezea hali ya mgonjwa na si vinginevyo. Ni lugha inayotumika kuwaambia wahusika na mgonjwa, hali yake, na wala hayana tafsiri/maana yoyote kisayansi.

Asante sana kwa maelezo yako Kuntu / Mazuri kabisa Mkuu na nimekuelewa. Nyie ndiyo Members ninaowata na ninaowapenda humu JF kwani mna akili halafu mnajua pia kutumia vizuri akili zenu na hampo kama wale wabobezi wa Siasa za majitaka ambao wanadhani ni wao tu pekee ndiyo wanauguza ila Sisi wengine huku hatuuguzi.

Sasa Mkuu naomba nikuulize kidogo tu kwahiyo kwa haya maelezo yako ndiyo unataka kusema kwamba huyu Mgonjwa wangu hatofariki? Kwahiyo tuzidi kuwa na imani nae na ikiwezekana niendelee kuhimiza michango hapa kwa Ndugu, Jamaa na Marafiki ili aendelee kutibiwa kwani tunapanga kumsafirisha kumpeleka Hospitali ya Bahari Barabara na kumtoa hapa Hospitali ya Muhitwo.

Nitashukuru ukinijibu Mkuu.

 

[marcus rojo]

Neno hilo ni lugha inatumika sana na madaktari kuwasiliana, unachanganyikiwa maana umezoea maneno kama comrade, kidumu chama kwahyo hilo ni neno geni mitaa ya lumumba

 

[osama BLD]

Sijui ni kwanini Madaktari wanapenda sana kusema kuwa Mgonjwa fulani yupo Critical but Stable lakini baadae ukija kuchunguza zaidi utakuta tayari huyo Mgonjwa ameshaonyesha dalili zote za Kukata roho / Kufa na mara nyingi wale Wagonjwa wengi ambao huwa tunaambiwa na Madaktari wetu kuwa wapo Critical but Stable huwa wanafariki dunia ndani ya ama muda mchache au siku chache tu zijazo.

Na kuna Daktari mmoja alinipa Siri kubwa ya wao kupenda kuitumia hii Kauli ya Critical but Stable kwamba huwa wanaitumia sana ili kuwaandaa Kisaikolojia wenye Mgonjwa wao ili hata baadae wakiwaambia ameshafariki basi wasiwe na mshtuko mkubwa lakini ukweli ni kwamba Kitabibu duniani kote hakuna kitu cha fulani ni Critical but Stable ila ukweli ni kwamba tayari huyo Mgonjwa anakuwa ameshafikia hatua ya mwisho kabisa ya kukata roho.

Sasa kama kumbe Mgonjwa kuwa Critical but Stable ni sawasawa tu na tayari ameshakata roho / amekufa nyie Madaktari huwa mnaogopa nini kutuambia Sisi tunaouguza kuwa Mpendwa Mgonjwa wetu ameshafariki dunia? Je hamuoni kwamba kuendelea kutuambia hii Kauli yenu ya Mgonjwa yupo Critical but Stable wakati kumbe ameshafariki dunia tayari mnatupa mzigo mwingine tu wa gharama na huenda mngesema tu ukweli mapema basi tungeokoa Pesa?

Kwa mfano Mimi binafsi nina Mgonjwa wangu Hospitali moja hapa Jijini ambaye alishambuliwa vibaya mno na Majambazi huku akiwa ameumizwa vibaya sana mkononi, mguuni, tumboni, kichwani na hadi wakaathiri na ini lake huku akiwa anapumulia mashine, lakini tokea tumkimbize hapo Hospitali leo ni siku kama si ya 15 basi ya 16 yupo ICU na hata haturuhusiwi kuingia kumuona ila ni Madaktari tu pekee ndiyo hutoka nje na kutupa taarifa zake za neno lao kubwa Kwetu sisi Wauguliwaji ni kwamba Mgonjwa wetu yupo Critical but Stable.

Madaktari acheni kutuchanganya tafadhalini huyu Critical but Stable anatutesa sana Sisi tunaouguza Wagonjwa wetu. Nawaomba pia Madaktari mliotukuka na mliopo humu JamiiForums mnipe ufafanuzi wa hii Kauli kwani inatuchanganya sana na hadi kuwafanya Ndugu, Jamaa na Marafiki zetu wengi wasijue la kufanya na huku wengine wasite pia hata kutaka kutoa msaada wao wa michango na huduma zingine kwa huyu Mgonjwa wetu Mpendwa ambaye ni Ndugu yangu aliyejeruhiwa vibaya sana na Majambazi huko Tarime Mkoani Mara ( Musoma ) akiwa anatoka Kazini na anaingia Nyumbani Kwake.

Nawasilisha.

Tit for tat

 

[UncleBen]

Hamna daktari mpumbavu wa kukupa hiyo siri eti wanapenda kutumia kauli hiyo kuwaandaa kisaikolojia wenye mgonjwa

Wewe endelea na ramli zako tu

 

[GENTAMYCINE]

mimi nimekuelewa sana mzee. hii kauli niliiskia kwa mara ya kwanza kipindi mandela anaumwa,nikajiuliza sana maana ya hii kauli nini. na baada ya muda si mrefu akafariki. kwa kifupi ukipewa hii kauli na madaktar kajiandae kuzika

Ubarikiwe kwa kuwa mmoja wa Watu wenye akili zilizotukuka na ambao mnamuelewa vizuri sana GENTAMYCINE humu. Tupo wachache sana humu Mkuu hivyo ringa na jivunie kwa kuwa Kipanga / Mwerevu.

 

[GENTAMYCINE]

Tatizo ni kwamba hadi sasa CDM kila jambo likija jukwaani wanadhania wanasemwa wao au mtu anamzungumzia lisu, kitu ambacho siyo sahihi kufanya kila mtu awaze juu ya lisu wakati wapo watu wengine pia wana matatizo kama ya lisu au hata zaidi.

Mfano, msiba wa Familia ya Teu ni simanzi kubwa sana kwa Taifa, ndugu na jamaa.

Ila ukiandika tu Uzi kuhusu msiba huo wa familia ya Teu wao wanaaza kusema nataka kuhamisha mada ya lisu, sasa hivi lisu ndiyo habari ya mjinj na watachafua Uzi wote.

Ndiyo kama kwako unahitaji kujua matumizi ya usemi huu "Critical but stable" na maana yake na hali halisi ya mgonjwa.

Ila naona, wengi wanaandika mara "hafi ng'o, oooh oooh tunamlipia" , tunamuombea" sasa nashindwa kuelewa mbona wewe kwenye huu uzi mbona hujataja jina la mgonjwa au lisu!?

Any way, watoto wa kambo na yatima ni ngumu sana kuelewa kuwa wanathaminiwa na familia ambazo siyo zao.

Safi sana Mkuu na nazidi kufurahi na Wewe na kuamini kuwa hata uwezo wako wa akili ni mkubwa mno kwani ili kuweza kumuelewa kabisa / vilivyo GENTAMYCINE na Wewe pia yakupasa uwe na akili nyingi na kubwa vinginevyo kila siku utakuwa unaniona Mimi mbaya kumbe Wewe akili zako ndizo mbaya.

Mkuu nakukubali sana na naunga mkono kwa 100% yote uliyoyaandika hapa. Kula likes zangu za kutosha.

 

[GENTAMYCINE]

Mkuu GENTAMYCINE mimi sio mtaalamu wala docta ila pitiapitia zangu nimeokota huko haya maelezo...

Wataalamu watafafanua zaidi kiundani hata kwa kiswahili

Critical means severely ill, not out of the danger zone, stable means no further deterioration e.g. no new problems with circulation, ventilation/oxygenation (breathing or mechanical ventilation), kidney function, liver function, bowel function, blood clotting and brain function as far as can be gauged in these very sick patients often heavily sedated.
Critical but stable can also apply to younger patients.

In layman's terms, critical but stable means someone who is severely ill but their condition is not deteriorating at the present time. In other words, the doctors cannot predict what will happen, but the patient is very ill.

Source:
Forumsuk.culture.language.english


Critical = "life-threatening"
stable = "getting neither worse nor better"
Someone whose life is threatened can have their condition worsening or improving, while at the same time still remaining life-threatening. Consider someone whose heart is beating irregularly... it can either stop completely (getting worse) or beat more regularly but still be dangerous (getting better). Stable implies there's no change in the condition, even though that condition remains serious.

Sasa mbona hujatutafsiria kwa Kiswahili Mkuu? Mfano kama Mimi sijui Kiingereza kabisa na naamini nipo na wenzangu wengi tu hivyo ulichokiweka hapo hatujakielewa halafu na hata Kamusi zenyewe hatuna hapa. Wakati ukijiandaa kunijibu labda nikuache tu na swali Mkuu kwakuwa Wewe unajua Kiingereza hicho je kwa hayo maelezo unadhani huyu Mgonjwa wangu ataishi au tuanze kujiandaa kwa huzuni na maombolezo? Naomba maana ya Kiswahili sanifu kabisa cha maneno Critical but Stable.

Nitashukuru ukinijibu Mkuu.

 

[malisoka]

Pole mtoa mada GENTAMYCINE. Acha utoto sio kila siku unaandika hayo hayo unafurahia sana watu wakawa na wasiwasi. Una bet kwenye afya na uhai wa watu wengi? wewe ni Mungu. Mbona unafanya mzaha sana! Afya ya mtu mwingine unaifanyia mbwembwe na kuitungia mashahiri leo unaandika hivi jana uliandika vile!!. Kumbuka hujafa hujaumbika Bwege wewe!! Yaani utafikiri umetoka kuzimu. Usicheze sana kwa kuandika andika mashahiri kwa ku bet maisha ya watu wengine. Angekuwa Baba yako au mjomba wako ungefanya unayoyafanya. Not Good bro!! Tuwaombee kwa Mungu na sio kuwazihaki unafikiri alipenda awe hivyo? Pumbavuuu!!!

 

[Vupu]

Sikutegeme kabsa watu watoe maoni kinyume na neno critical but stable, sasa nashangaa watu wanaleta maoni na hisia zao binafsi. .

Ustarabu ni kitu cha bure kabsa hasa unapokuwa unachangia hoja ya MTU ambaye pengine hata humfahamu

 

[mtunzasiri]

Hizo critical but stable afu icu naona unazizingatia sana kisa nini?