Maina Kamanda: Tanzania's Magufuli and South Sudan's Kiir funding Raila to distabilize Kenya

[Mshana Jr]

Choko Choko zimeshaanza

 

[aminiusiamini]

Wakenya waache upumbavu wao. Hata dunia itawashanga sana.

 

[aminiusiamini]

We Kenyans are sorry and very disappointed by these senseless remarks by these "leaders", which we are %100 sure they cant even substantiate if asked of them.

Wao kuropokowa tu hivi like raw youths ignorant of statesmanship.
it's appalling and shameful.

Thanks man.at least one kenyan with right sense speaks.

 

[Uhuru n Umoja]

You guys are poor and can't afford to finance a coup in an economic giant like Kenya.
Deal first with the trail of so many mistakes being left behind every time Magu makes a decision.

HAKUNA JESHI, TAIFA AMA KIKUNDI CHOCHOTE chenye uwezo wa kucheza na usalama or security ya Tanzania kama manavyoshikwa shikwa makalio na Al Shabab and other local terror gangs in Kenya.Hatibwabwaji ni facts za history. sisi ni watu wa kazi. South Africa huko wanaimba "Mungu ibariki Afrika" what is Kenya? a geographical location where tribal rivarly has created one of the most barbaric societies on the face of earth. Wakenya wengi ni njaa, tabu, umbea, unafiki na kelele, chakula tu Kenya ni luxury.

 

[Dhuks]

I don't understand why you are all foaming in the mouth. It goes without saying that Magufuli will fund Railas campaign one way or another. Whether that can be called destabilizing the government is a stretch but politicians will only stretch the little they have. If Raila was Kenya's president and Magufuli was vying i would expect the same. How any of that becomes an oil pipeline issue nangoja kuambiwa

 

[Hwasha]

you are our brothers ans sisters too...trust me no one will harrass you for being a tanzanian when in kenya.infact natafuta msichana wakizaramo nimuoe

Yes they can harass us but they will still remain my brothers,We will never revenge.We have more than 120 tribes in Tanzania,we use Kiswahili to unite us. We don't bother bother to ask each other where do you come from? Kenyans are Africans .They will always be our brothers and sisters.Even if they are radical, we will remain polite and kind brothers. You never know may be we are first born brothers.

 

[bongo-live]

hawa pimbi ndio maadui zet hata tanga ndio wasabisha..

 

[Ghosryder]

Amevurugwa, Unadhani Magufuli anaweza kugawagawa hela ovyo ovyo tu! Aje na habari za kweli sio bla bla .

 

[saadeque]

hawa pimbi ndio maadui zet hata tanga ndio wasabisha..

tumefanya nini tanga sasa....jipeni shughuli

 

[bongo-live]

Tuesday May 31, 2016 - Starehe MP, Maina Kamanda, has sensationally claimed that CORD leader, Raila Odinga is getting help from foreign mercenaries to try and overthrow President Uhuru Kenyatta from power.
Addressing a press conference at a Nairobi hotel on Monday, Kamanda said that he has intelligence that Tanzania President John Pombe Magufuli and South Sudan President Salvar Kiir are funding the opposition with an aim of destabilising Kenya.
“Raila has...
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Anonymous
31 May 2016 at 07:02
Nkaisery's CV.
• Student
1985 → 1986 of Defence staff college
• Student
(B Ed, (Pioneer Class) dropped out)
1971 → 1972 of Kenyatta College
dropped out
Read Gaitho's article in todays Nation.
Anonymous
31 May 2016 at 07:23
Lete pesa tumalize wagikuyu sasa hivi...
Anonymous
31 May 2016 at 10:55
kaisery is a faggot. Kamande is a faggot. Matina ma ngui.
Anonymous
31 May 2016 at 21:42
Anon 10:55 you are itina rîa nûgû.
Anonymous
31 May 2016 at 22:49
Mus you pole post your stupidity n dp can you style up you idiots
Anonymous
31 May 2016 at 22:52
If RAO was getting help from Israel or Syria,we would be a worried lot.But hapa Tanzania.... SMH!!

 

[Iconoclastes]

Really! with our poverty we managed to establish the rule of the majority in countries like South Africa, Angola, Mozambique, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Seychelles, Uganda, Guenee Bissau, cape varde. Nearly all sub-sahara african presidents were once Tanzanian citizens, Mandela, Mbeki, Zuma, Kagame, Museven, Nkurunzinza, Mugabe, Samora Machel, Joachim Chisano, Armando Guebuza and Felipe Nyusi, Sam Nujoma, Hifikepunye Pohamba, Agustino Netto, Dos Santos, Kabila baba, Kabila mtoto, president mtarajiwa Uganda Kainerugaba Muhoozi born in TZ, trained in TZ, John Garang of Sudan and including your Raila Odinga, Raira Odinga flew to Europe as a Tanzanian. #Respect! You are talking about a country with an army that liberated the entire southern of Africa and beyond. An army that trained all liberation movements, fought throughout the cold-cold war and won wars and countless of covert operations with distinctions. Kajeshi kenu ndio kwanza kako Somali first outing, iliwachukua zaidi ya miaka miwili kuchukua mji mmoja tu KISMAYU toka kwa wanamgambo wa Al Shabab, a ragtag force that cant even afford dissent shoes.

You Tanzanians need to get your facts right! Tz did indeed commit itself to ending imperialism and fascist regimes in the continent by supporting the various resistance movements that were involved in the struggle. Granted.
However, it is a fallacy the claim there that Tz , as u have put it "established the rule of the majority" in those oppressed countries like SA, Angola, Mozambique, Namibia and the former Rhodesia. That is utter drivel!

There is no way a poverty-stricken country whose army was largely dependent on the rather inferior, second-hand weapons from China could possibly take on the much well organized and technologically advanced armies of Angola, SA or Rhodesia (and SA was a nuclear power to boot).
Apparently, the racist regimes in SA, Angola, Mozambique and Rhodesia had grown impervious to the criticisms coming from the African quarters, and they were in fact not taking the threats by the African states (like Tanzania) using force against them seriously, recognizing their military weakness.
A war between Tanzania and Rhodesia in the 60s 0r 70s would have been a walkaway success for the latter. I doubt even a combined force of ( I reckon) ten African states could have taken on Rhodesia then, with any chance of success.
The apartheid SA on the other hand could probably have utterly obliterated more than twice that number, given that it was very advanced militarily and also a nuclear power-state.

There was therefore nothing much Tanzania could do to dent those reviled regimes except to offer hiding places for the rebels, whose activities by the way were proving ineffective against those regimes.
Whatever led to the downfall of those regimes had little to do with the pressures from within Africa, i.e the resistance movements of the Nyereres and Kaundas and Nkrumahs as the pressures from abroad. It was the factors outside of Africa that led to the crumbling of those powerful but reviled regimes.
Read how how the events within Portugal in the 70s led to its losing its territories overseas. Read how the western pressure, led by America and Britain precipitated the downfall of the apartheid in SA; this after the Africans had nearly lost all hopes of ever eradicating them from SA.

But what were the successes of Tanzania in Uganda during the the war to topple Idi Amin? Would they have succeed had the various military units within the Ugandan army united; had Kenya not confiscated the indispensable war equipment such as the weapons from Russia, the spare-parts and the petrol to fuel the war vehicles, all which Uganda had paid for at the port of Mombasa? And what about that rarely spoken about blunder by Nyerere to forcefully re-install his ally Obote in power despite the latter's widespread unpopularity among most Ugandans?
His supporting of Obote not to let Ugandans exercise their free judgement in appointing their leaders led to a blood-bath that was far worse than during Amin's time which Nyerere had committed himself to end.

 

[Iconoclastes]

. Kajeshi kenu ndio kwanza kako Somali first outing, iliwachukua zaidi ya miaka miwili kuchukua mji mmoja tu KISMAYU toka kwa wanamgambo wa Al Shabab, a ragtag force that cant even afford dissent shoes.

This is laughable! Turning to belittling the military capabilities of the Alshbb so as to misesteem the Kenyan military is pretty idiotic of u Tanzanians.

 

[Uhuru n Umoja]

You Tanzanians need to get your facts right! Tz did indeed commit itself to ending imperialism and fascist regimes in the continent by supporting the various resistance movements that were involved in the struggle. Granted.
However, it is a fallacy the claim there that Tz , as u have put it "established the rule of the majority" in those oppressed countries like SA, Angola, Mozambique, Namibia and the former Rhodesia. That is utter drivel!

There is no way a country whose army was largely dependent on the rather inferior, second-hand weapons from China could possibly take on the much well organized and technologically advanced armies of Angola, SA or Rhodesia (and SA was a nuclear power to boot).
Apparently, the racist regimes in SA, Angola, Mozambique and Rhodesia had grown impervious to the criticisms coming from the African quarters, and they were in fact not taking the threats by the African states (like Tanzania) using force against them seriously, recognizing their military weakness.
A war between Tanzania and Rhodesia in the 60s 0r 70s would have been a walkaway success for the former. I doubt even a combined force of ( I reckon) ten African states could have taken on Rhodesia then, with any chance of success.
The apartheid SA on the other hand could probably have utterly obliterated more than twice that number, given that it was very advanced militarily and also a nuclear power-state.

There was therefore nothing much Tanzania could do to dent those reviled regimes except to offer hiding places for its rebels, whose activities by the way were proving ineffective against that regimes.
Whatever led to the downfall of those regimes had little to do with the pressures from within Africa, i.e the resistance movements of the Nyereres and Kaundas and Nkrumahs as the pressures from abroad. It was the factors outside of Africa that led to the crumbling of those powerful but reviled regimes.
Read how how the events within Portugal in the 70s led to its losing its territories overseas. Read how the west, led by America and Britain precipitated the downfall of the apartheid in SA; this after the Africans had nearly lost all hopes of ever eradicate them from SA.

But what were the successes of Tanzania in Uganda during the the war to topple Idi Amin? Would they have succeed had the various military units within the Ugandan army united; had Kenya not confiscated the indispensable war equipment such as the weapons from Russia, the spare-parts and the refined oil, all which Uganda had paid for at the port of Mombasa? And what about that rarely spoken blunder by Nyerere to forcefully re-install his ally Obote in power despite the latter's widespread unpopularity among most Ugandans?
His supporting of Obote not to let Ugandans exercise their free judgement in appointing their leaders led to a blood-bath that was far worse than during Amin's time which Nyerere had committed himself to end.

What you wrote is what Kenya/Kenyans want it to be but unfortunately, history has already been recorded.

 

[Iconoclastes]

What you wrote is what Kenya/Kenyans want it to be but unfortunately, history has already been recorded.

Recorded where that Tanzania "actually fought" and defeated those racist regimes?

 

[Bilionea Asigwa]

Hawa Wakenya wameanza fyoko fyoko??

Safari hii wameshindwa kuwalaumu mungiki kwa matatizo yao wamegeukia Tanzania??

 

[1954]

Dalili za kukosa deal la mafuta ya South Sudan

Hofu yangu ni kuwa ikiwa KENYA itakwaruzana na South Sudan, itakuwaje kuhusu Wakennya wanaofanya biashara kubwa huko SUDAN? Halafu hawa KENYA siwaelewi kabisa uhusiano wao na Uganda siyo mzuri. Ethiopia pia nasikia KENYA 'wamechukua kwa nguvu' eneo Fulani kule, urafiki wa Tanzania na Kenya nao ni wa mashaka siku nyingi,Wakenya baadhi siyo wote huwa wanawaona Watanzania kuwa 'hamna kitu' na wamekazania kupata ardhi ikibidi hata kuwaoa wanawake wa Tanzania. KAGAME naye wa Rwanda ameanza kuwashitukia Wakenya, Somalia kwa upande wa serikali wana urafiki na Kenya ambao nadhani ni wa mashaka lakini Al Shabab hawataki kusikia kitu hicho na wamechukua silaha....sasa hawa Kenya mwenzenu siwaelewi kabisa....

 

[saadeque]

ni

Hofu yangu ni kuwa ikiwa KENYA itakwaruzana na South Sudan, itakuwaje kuhusu Wakennya wanaofanya biashara kubwa huko SUDAN? Halafu hawa KENYA siwaelewi kabisa uhusiano wao na Uganda siyo mzuri. Ethiopia pia nasikia KENYA 'wamechukua kwa nguvu' eneo Fulani kule, urafiki wa Tanzania na Kenya nao ni wa mashaka siku nyingi,Wakenya baadhi siyo wote huwa wanawaona Watanzania kuwa 'hamna kitu' na wamekazania kupata ardhi ikibidi hata kuwaoa wanawake wa Tanzania. KAGAME naye wa Rwanda ameanza kuwashitukia Wakenya, Somalia kwa upande wa serikali wana urafiki na Kenya ambao nadhani ni wa mashaka lakini Al Shabab hawataki kusikia kitu hicho na wamechukua silaha....sasa hawa Kenya mwenzenu siwaelewi kabisa....

majirani zetu ndo wanatuonea kijicho....mbona hamsemi vile ug wameshika migingo..vile somali wanataka kutupokonya bahari yetu..vile ethiopia wanatuulia watu kule mipakani..vile wasouthsudan walivyoanza kutufukuza kule kwao na vile watanzania wanatuchukia bila sababu tu.hawa warwanda ata sijui tumewakosa nni ndo unawataja..majirani zetu hawatutakii mema ndio maana wakisikia mabomu ya al shabaab wanatuchekea.anyway "EEEee Mungu nguvu yetu....."Mungu yuko nasi

 

[1954]

ni

majirani zetu ndo wanatuonea kijicho....mbona hamsemi vile ug wameshika migingo..vile somali wanataka kutupokonya bahari yetu..vile ethiopia wanatuulia watu kule mipakani..vile wasouthsudan walivyoanza kutufukuza kule kwao na vile watanzania wanatuchukia bila sababu tu.hawa warwanda ata sijui tumewakosa nni ndo unawataja..majirani zetu hawatutakii mema ndio maana wakisikia mabomu ya al shabaab wanatuchekea.anyway "EEEee Mungu nguvu yetu....."Mungu yuko nasi

Pole sana, pole sana...naona umeandika kwa hisia na uchungu mkubwa...Sina hakika kama umeandika haya kwa dhati..lakini ni lazima kuwe na tatizo Fulani na Wakenya. haiwezekani majirani wote wawe hawawapendi...hivi kweli majirani wanaionea wivu Kenya?! Kwa lipi hasa...I am not quite sure...But here is a problem somewhere, which should be solved, by whom I don't know...

 

[saadeque]

Pole sana, pole sana...naona umeandika kwa hisia na uchungu mkubwa...Sina hakika kama umeandika haya kwa dhati..lakini ni lazima kuwe na tatizo Fulani na Wakenya. haiwezekani majirani wote wawe hawawapendi...hivi kweli majirani wanaionea wivu Kenya?! Kwa lipi hasa...I am not quite sure...But here is a problem somewhere, which should be solved, by whom I don't know...

sinivile watu hawataki sikia tu our economy is bigger....ushabiki kando kidogo.tz tumewakosea nni?ug nao tumewafanyaje ndo wapige wakenya kule migingo...hawa wasudan nao?juzi tu apa walikuwa watoto wetu walipojikomoa kivyao.wasomali nao ata electionwalikua wakifanyia kwetu.ethiopia nao tumewakosa nni....kama kuna shida nyinyi majirani ndio mwaziona.hebu tutajie tusikie hapa.mkikosa ni majungu tu na fitna

 

[Uhuru n Umoja]

This icanughable! Turning to belittling the military capabilities of the Alshbb so as to misesteem the Kenyan military is pretty idiotic of u Tanzanians.

Its great to be a nationalist as well as patriotic but that wont change obvious facts about Kenya or her laughable military capability as well as her state security organgs prowess. These facts were clearly manifested during your chaotic handling of westgate ordeal. Most of us were really shocked when spotted your chocolate soldiers arriving with battle tanks in Garrissa University after the massacre carried out by the devoted Mujaheedins of Al Shabab.
Your freaking army, you are hardly trying to promote its credibility is next useless. I mean, your entire security system is crap! How can armed fools from neighbouring states seldom cross your borders and terrorize your innocent civilians at the watchful eye of thugs you mamparaz call government? Your stupid soldiers looted the westgate mall and even stole ridiculous items such canes of coke, I mean, really? These are fools you guys take pride of and you are here shamelessly yapping shit about them. At one point I was wondering why would a Kenyan trade his precious backside in USA for an exchange of a greencard but its pretty clear to me now- most of you simply fall for false praises "our economy this, our economy that" while food in Kenya is a luxury.