Mmmmmmmmmmh, I don't know...labda fanyeni research nyie wenyewe Wakenya...By the way, what did you say? Your economy is bigger? Pengine ni kauli za aina hiyo ndiyo zinawaletea matatizo, do you need to point out that your economy is bigger? Do you have to mention it to someone? For what reasons?
Maina Kamanda: Tanzania's Magufuli and South Sudan's Kiir funding Raila to distabilize Kenya
Maina Kamanda: Tanzania's Magufuli and South Sudan's Kiir funding Raila to distabilize Kenya
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Mmmmmmmmmmh, I don't know...labda fanyeni research nyie wenyewe Wakenya...By the way, what did you say? Your economy is bigger? Pengine ni kauli za aina hiyo ndiyo zinawaletea matatizo, do you need to point out that your economy is bigger? Do you have to mention it to someone? For what reasons?
saadeque
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hio ilikua tu utani ndo nkasema ushabiki kando but unaona vile imekuuma..u forget kua sio sisi hukuja na hizo data but ni kina world bank and ofcourse we must be happy.Sasa sijui apo uwa tumewakwaruza vipi ndo ii chuki yote..Cha msingi apa sioni ubaya wowote tumefanyia watu cz nko sure no one is going to give me any tangible reasomn
Iconoclastes
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What obvious facts are u talking about? And who else shares your opinion that the Kenyan military is is laughable? The Globalfirepower perhaps?
You Tanzanians are fond of pointing to the fiascos at both the Westgate and the Garissa University to back up your rather hollow argument about the Kenyan military, yet you chose to ignore its successes in Somalia that included ending the problem of piracy in the Indian Ocean. In fact, this one operation here even captivated the world and brought so much esteem to the KDF.
Incidentally, even the world's most powerful militaries such as the US and Russia have have also committed tactical blunders that have seen them meet with humiliating defeats. You surely must be aware of how the US overtures in Vietnam, Somalia and the Middle East left it with a bloody nose. Those misadventures however havent in anyway controverted the fact that hers is the most powerful militariy in the world!
You have stated that u were "shocked" when u saw battle tanks being employed at the Garissa University rescue operation, others Tanzanians here have expressed their chagrin that armored vehicles were being used during the Westgate crisis. Such statements clearly show how u Tanzanians are dummies when it comes to issues military operations that involve urban warfare and large-scale hostage rescue. Clearly, guerilla warfare is all that u know about, and admittedly, your military is accomplished in that.
In a hostage situation like that and with the hostage hostage takers armed to the teeth with with heavy weapons, tanks and armoured vehicles become handy for two reasons:
a)They provide help provide cover for the advancing rescue team from bullets and flying shrapnel from explosives
b)To knockdown walls to provide escape/entry ways to both the captives from wherever they may be hold up or enable the rescuers storm into the building.
Armoured vehicles and tanks were also present during the following similar hostage situations in Russia:
Moscow theater hostage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Budyonnovsk hospital hostage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Beslan school siege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If u still strongly believe that those events in the Garissa and Westgate were spectacular failures that prove of Kenya's military ineptitude, please click on those links and read how the Russians fared in those hostage rescue operations. Then come back here and tell me if u now think the Russians are in fact even more bogus than Kenya.
Honestly, it would be interesting to see how the Tanzanian security agencies would handle a dicey situation like that.
Recall Amboni.
Our security intelligence agencies which you so disparage here have in fact foiled so many terror plots in Kenya. They have upped their ante since the Garissa atttack, that is why there has never been another grand-scale attack a la Garissa and Westgate for quite a long time now
Iconoclastes
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World's hungriest countries...
Another map here from FAO:
The State of Food Insecurity in the World 2015
Enuff said!
Those people are just joking as Kiir can never go against Kenyan government, possibly individuals within the Kiir government led by Riek(Odinga's tribe)! secondly Tz can never go against any of the East African country who are EAC or SADC, Tanzania is ready to offer peace keeping forces or any assistance requested by UN or AU like the issue of Comoro and recently the getting rid of M23 in the DRC. Tanzania is a peace loving country. In Kenya there is a serious problem being caused by idle/ jobless politicians the CORD lead by hon Odinga and his co- principals Musyoka and Wetangula, the very people/politicians who caused the 2007/2008 death of innocent civilians and narrowly escaped justice are reviving the omens and ordeals, Ben Souda should now make a followup on those demonstrations and 2017 August they should be sent to the ICC. Idleness (CORD)is the devils' workshop. They should respect their constitution.
Kenya has been swallowed already, do you expect them to wake up from this slumber! extreme tribalism has been there even before independence, Somalis from North Eastern Kenya, citizens from central Kenya(GEMA) and citizen from the Rift Valley(Kalenjins) will always alternate the lucrative Presidential post every ten years till the coming of Christ unless they get rid of tribalism, let them borrow a leaf from Tanzanian politics though not perfect.
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World's hungriest countries...
Another map here from FAO:
The State of Food Insecurity in the World 2015
Enuff said!
This is so crazy of you, keep these crazy statistics to yourself. Between Tanzania and Kenya which one is chronically experiencing hunger yearly? I dont remember to have seen Tanzania exporting food from Kenya, YES Kenya imports FOOD from Tanzania, FACT. Food is far more cheaper in Tanzania than in Kenya, FACT.
Reports indicate about 10-15 million people in Kenya suffer from chronic food insecurity, while some 7.5 million people live in extreme poverty.
Get the Facts on Hunger in Kenya & South Sudan
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You have written a lot of garbage. its pretty simple KDF has a lot to atone for. An army that its Generals have never known a battle field. The first KDF outing is Somalia, a broken country with no government and no credible institution that works. Ethiopia did great to destabilize Al shabab before UPDF and Burundi joined in, its pretty crazy you guys want to steal the hard-fought achievements of others. BTW, what you clowns attempting to steal is so small, Al Shabab is group of goons just like Mungiki, Kibera batalion, MRC and other stupid gangs operating in Kenya.
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We mjingaWorld's hungriest countries...
Another map here from FAO:
The State of Food Insecurity in the World 2015
Enuff said!
Unajua Tanzania iliyoyafanya Comoro na Seychelles?
Pia tupo Kati ya Hezbollah na formidable IDA Lebanon
We pigana na Mungiki na Cord
Iconoclastes
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The level of your ignorance is appalling! I do not want to imagine that I am wasting precious portion of my life arguing with a juvenile online. To me, what could be more abasing than that?!
It is quite amusing that you should beat your chest about Tanzania not IMPORTING (u wrote EXPORTING FROM, which shows what a bubblehead u really are!) foodstuff from Kenya. I honestly wish you had first researched on the Kenya-Tanzania imports and exports before rushing in here to display your rather embarrassing ignorance. Foodstuff feature prominently in the Kenya’s exports to Tanzania, as the reports indicate. The balance of trade is in fact in favour of Kenya, which obviously means that Kenya exports more to Tanzania than it imports.
Kenyan exports...
I need to inform you that well over three-quarters of Kenyans depend on agriculture, and that it is the largest single contributor to the country’s GDP. Shortly after independence, Kenya embarked on the programme of expansion and modernization of its agricultural sector, as well as well as diversifying its export crops as the means of augmenting its foreign exchange earnings. The young country had recognized its handicaps: that well over 80% of its lands are arid/infertile; that it lacked any sizeable deposits of valuable mineral resources like Nigeria, Libya, Congo or Ghana to rely on and that its population was growing rapidly and that was going to present it with a tremendous crisis in the future; catering for a growing population without sufficient sources of food. Dynamic approach to the challenge was thus imperative.
Now this…agriculture is the key reason why Kenya is the country with the most wealth in the entire east and central Africa region. This- and this is the point- despite having smaller arable land and no any valuable mineral resources!
Kenya’s successes in this sector are hard to find in most other countries in Africa. Hers is considered more advanced in comparison.
Kenya is in fact the second leading exporter of horticultural products (fruits, vegetables, flowers etc), meat and dairy products to the EU. Did u know that Uhuru na Umoja? Only SA is the largest exporter of these products to the EU. Click here
Kenya is ranked as one of the leading exporters of tea, coffee horticulture, maize, wheat, sugarcane, daily products, cotton, sisal, pyrethrum and cashew nuts etc. Within the EAC, it is by far the leader in the production of horticulture, wheat, sugarcane and dairy products.
Kenya is EAC’s largest consumer of maize. No wonder as it is the staple food here. However, due to the fact that much of the good lands are devoted to the production of these cash crops, Kenya isn’t able to sufficiently meet the demand, constricting it to import from outside in order to cover the deficits at home. That however doesn’t make Kenya really a hunger-stricken country any more than the EU or Japan aren’t hunger-stricken countries for exporting foodstuff from abroad.
You clearly hate statistics, which is quite unfortunate. But you need read this. That is the data by Numbeo comparing The cost of living between Kenya and Tanzania. Numbeo carry out such surveys as the cost of living or crime rate or level of polutions between countries or cities, and their data is often quite reliable. With that, i intend to challenge your "FACT" that food is "far more cheaper" in Tanzania than in Kenya. You shouldnt make such claims without attaching any proof to back up your hollow argument
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Regarding this, I think I should admonish u against believing everything that you read on the internet, kid. For example, that report there by hungerfree.com. Who are they? I am very certain that the vast majority of the pipo on this forum have never heard of that NGO.
It is always wise to ascertain such info with the more reliable organizations or authoritative news channels such as the WB, FAO, IMF, UN, BBC etc.
That 10-15million pipo in Kenya suffer chronic food shortages is an exaggeration, for even the WFP and the FAO, their highest estimates on the same has never ever exceeded 5million. That was in 2005. Usually it hovers just around 1.5million to 2million pipo. WFP.
That report is grossly inaccurate. Perhaps they were referring to Ethiopia Ethiopia food crisis.
Even that figure about the number of pipo living in poverty in Kenya is inaccurate. It should in fact be much higher than that. 7.5million comprises only about 16% of the population yet the data from the other reputable organizations say that around 40% of Kenyans live in poverty. You dint take your time to notice the discrepancy in your mad rush to score points against Kenya!
The reports from such organizations as hungerfree.com, that go around the world soliciting for donations should be taken with a pinch of salt. Their reports are always wrought with misinformation, calculated to shock pipo, who in their gullibility are jolted into making contributions towards their cause, which may not even be genuine or legit.
You say that you have never heard of cases of hunger in Tanzania?
HUNGER AND MALNUTRITION IN TANZANIA
United Republic of Tanzania | WFP | United Nations World Food Programme - Fighting Hunger Worldwide
Wala viwavi jeshi kuikabili njaa
And this.....
Tanzania: Hunger, Malnutrition Kill 200 Children in Ngorongoro .
Tanzania: Hunger in a World Heritage Site. Where is the World?
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True, the KDF and indeed the entire Kenyan security agencies have a lot to atone for. Nobody denies their guilt in numerous transgressions against the pipo of Kenya. Their offences however are not any different from those of many other militaries around the world. Like Tanzanian military which is currently embroiled in a rather embarrassing sex abuse allegations in their peace-keeping missions abroad, right?
I told u it is very foolish of u to underrate the military might of the Alshbb in just to belittle the KDF. Look, u are in effect not just underrating the KDF's military skills, u are as well disparaging all the other militaries that are taking part in the effort to eradicate this terror group, most of which have been involved long before Kenya came into the scene: US, Britain,Ethiopia, Yemen, Australia, Turkey, Uganda and Burundi.
Why hasnt this combined force of mighty militaries havent succeded in wiping out the Alshbb? Does it then follow that they are all inferior?
Such mindless statements can only emanate from a pipo like u who are clueless about these terrorists war dynamics that are making them quite difficult to totally defeat.
Al shabaab is neither weak nor poor nor callow in combats like the M23 (which mainly comprised drug-addled child soldiers, armed with 1st generation weapons set up against the more advanced Tanzanian army) nor unsophisticated.
Get your facts right.
Read this: Al Shabaab
Iconoclastes
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Yes ma. Thispoliticians with their senseless remarks. I hope both side of the political divide realize where they are heading this country with their reckless actions and rhetorics. I pray and hope that they will all sober up soon before it is too late.
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Katika siku za hivi karibuni kumekuwepo na taarifa kwenye vyombo vya habari vya Kenya na vya kimataifa hususani BBC vikielezea madai ya serikali ya Kenya kwamba serikali ya Tanzania inasaidia vyama vya upinzani nchini humo kufanya maandamano na mikutano ya kisiasa na kuvuruga amani ya nchi hiyo.Madai ya serikali ya Kenya yameenda mbali kwa kumtuhumu waziwazi Rais Magufuli kwamba wakati yeye amepiga marufuku mikutano na maandamano nchini Tanzania,anamfadhili rafiki yake Raila Odinga kuandaa maandamano haramu nchini kenya.Tunaiomba serikali yetu itoe kauli kuhusu madai haya ili kudumisha na kulinusuru shirikisho la Afrika Mashariki.
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Mimi sijawahi sikia labda nimepitwa na wakati
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Nilishangazwa na kauli iliyotolewa na moja wa viongozi wa muungano wa jubilee wanaoongoza serikali ya Kenya.
Wakati akihojiwa na BBC alidai kuwa wapinzani wa Kenya wanafadhiliwa na kuchochewa na serikali ya Tanzania ili wafanye maandamano ya kudai tume huru.
Nimebaki na maswali na huenda propaganda ya namna hii inapaswa kujibiwa na kukemewa, haileti ustawi mzuri kama nchi kidiplomasia.
Inapaswa jubilee wajibiwe kwa kauli zao za kitoto kama hizi.
Wakati akihojiwa na BBC alidai kuwa wapinzani wa Kenya wanafadhiliwa na kuchochewa na serikali ya Tanzania ili wafanye maandamano ya kudai tume huru.
Nimebaki na maswali na huenda propaganda ya namna hii inapaswa kujibiwa na kukemewa, haileti ustawi mzuri kama nchi kidiplomasia.
Inapaswa jubilee wajibiwe kwa kauli zao za kitoto kama hizi.
Mawembasa1979
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Ni kweli hata taarifa ya BBC ya leo limezungumziwa suala hilo!
zuberi Abraham
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Hivi ni kweli BBC wamesema hili ndugu au?