Mradi wa bomba la gesi asili toka Tanzania kwenda Kenya

Mradi wa bomba la gesi asili toka Tanzania kwenda Kenya

Tatizo lako Geza hujatembea duniani umejifungia Tanzania pekee ndio Shida yako, ukienda Georgia nchi ambazo zinatumia gas za kwenye mitungi na hawajaunganishwa na mabomba, mitungi yao yote imeandikwa LNG, sio LPG.

Uliza kama kuna jamaa yako yupo Europe na anatumia gas ya kwenye mitungi kama hatokuambia kama ni LNG sio LPG. Wewe zaidi ya TPDC huna unachojua, Jaribu kutembea duniani utaona mambo tofauti wacha kujifungia Tanzania umezidi ushamba. Wewe unadhania kwasababu Africa tunatumia LPG basi dunia yote ni LPG. Punguza ushamba Geza.



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Wewe unajuaje kama mimi naishi Tanzania? FYI Western Europe hawatumii gesi ya mitungi nimetembea almost the whole of Western European countries UK, France, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Denmark, Norway na Netherlands!
 
Tatizo lako Geza hujatembea duniani umejifungia Tanzania pekee ndio Shida yako, ukienda Georgia nchi ambazo zinatumia gas za kwenye mitungi na hawajaunganishwa na mabomba, mitungi yao yote imeandikwa LNG, sio LPG.

Uliza kama kuna jamaa yako yupo Europe na anatumia gas ya kwenye mitungi kama hatokuambia kama ni LNG sio LPG. Wewe zaidi ya TPDC huna unachojua, Jaribu kutembea duniani utaona mambo tofauti wacha kujifungia Tanzania umezidi ushamba. Wewe unadhania kwasababu Africa tunatumia LPG basi dunia yote ni LPG. Punguza ushamba Geza.



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Nimegoogle neno "lng cylinder" kisha nikaclick images ili nione kama wataleta picha na kweli kuna cylinders za "lng".
 
Kitu cha muhimu ni kujifunza. Hapa kila mtu anajifunza kitu.

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Nimegoogle neno "lng cylinder" kisha nikaclick images ili nione kama wataleta picha na kweli kuna cylinders za "lng".
hizo ni cyrogenic gas cylinder special for LNG and very costly na hata hapa Europe not widely applicable as not portable for home use and in vehicles. In vehicles zaidi ya cylinder utahitaji ku-install a complete system ya presure regulator, pressure relief valve and heat exchanger valve to vaporize the liquid. The technology is called Cryo diffusion yaani ni una-instal mini LNG plant kwenye gari ili kuifanya NG/CNG iwe LNG! The technology is pretty new n costly!
 
Kitu cha muhimu ni kujifunza. Hapa kila mtu anajifunza kitu.

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Jamaa hana Exposure kabisa, yeye anadhani Tanzania na Africa ndio kila kitu. Kwa mtu yeyote anayejua eneo la mafuta na gesi, na amepata fursa ya kuzunguka dunia, akifuatilia huu mjadala atashangazwa sana na "arguments" za Geza, moja kwa moja atajua kwamba jamaa hana Exposure zaidi ya Tanzania na TPDC tu.

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Kitu cha muhimu ni kujifunza. Hapa kila mtu anajifunza kitu.

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Hizi ni storage tanks na ukiangalia kuna chillers aside! Sasa imagine uweke dude hilo jikoni ili tu kuiweka NG kwenye LNG! I guess utahitaji underground cellar for that system!

Hata kwenye gari zinakaa hivi! Ili kui-keep NG at -162° Celsius (-260° Fahrenheit)! I can assure this technology is applicable in trucks with limitations as u need bigger space for its system!
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Vehicle Fuel Storage​

Fuel is most commonly stored on board vehicles in high pressure cylinders as compressed natural gas (CNG). As the name suggests, compressed natural gas is compressed into a high-pressure cylinder, usually to around 250 bar (or lower in some areas).
Emerging methods of storage include Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG), which is already in commercial operation and Adsorbed Natural Gas (ANG), which is still in the developmental stage.
Opel_Zafira_Tourer_CNG_2012_design-300x192.jpg

Opel Zafira Tourer displaying the under-floor CNG storage system

CNG Cylinders

Compressed natural gas (CNG) cylinders are available in a number of different types, weights and sizes to suit different applications. As a general rule, as cylinder weight decreases, cylinder costs increase. In some cases, cylinders are available for lease from vehicle converters or gas suppliers. Details of cylinder suppliers can be found in our Business Directory (see left).

Additional information can also be found in our Guidelines for the Handling of CNG Cylinders document.

Cylinder types include:
Type 1: This is an all metal cylinder made of steel. There is no covering other than paint on the outside of the cylinder. This is the most common type of cylinder.

Type 2: This is a metal cylinder (steel or aluminum) with a partial wrapping that goes around the cylinder. The wrapping is usually made of glass, aramid or carbon, contained in an epoxy or polyester resin.

Type 3: This type of cylinder is fully wrapped with the same kind of material used for the partial wrapping of a Type 2 cylinder. This type of cylinder has a metal liner, usually aluminum.

Type 4: This type of cylinder is fully wrapped with the same kind of material used for the partial wrapping of a Type 2 cylinder. This type of cylinder has a plastic liner.

CNG Cylinder Weight

The importance of the weight of on-board CNG cylinders can vary widely, from critical to minimal relevance. Ultimately, the duty cycle of the vehicle will determine the most appropriate choice of cylinders.

A perception that often arises is that not enough CNG can be carried because the cylinders weigh too much or take up too much space. However, if lightweight cylinders are used and the actual fuel needs of the vehicle are taken into account, the issue of weight can be significantly diminished (vehicles often carry more fuel than is actually required).
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MAN Lions City bus carrying roof-mounted CNG cylinders

As a rule though, you will generally need to fill up a CNG cylinder more frequently than a gasoline or diesel tank. With the advent of CNG home refuelling, this inconvenience will become minor for most private motorists. Driving into your garage and connecting your car to your home refueller means no more unnecessary trips to the gas station! In other cases, the cost savings on CNG versus gasoline or diesel make the inconvenience seem minor.

For heavier vehicles, innovative solutions for cylinder locations include placement beneath the bunk in a sleeper cabin or on the roof (see image). In some cases, especially buses, carrying the cylinders on the roof actually helps to distribute weight over axles more evenly.

In situations where weight is an issue, cylinders may also be carried on a trailer (assuming the engine is on a Prime Mover), thus distributing the load over more axles. As always, such fit-outs should only be done by qualified and certified professionals.

Durability

CNG cylinders have to be strong structurally in order to contain the high pressure gas. Prior to gaining standards and regulatory approval, the cylinders are subjected to a large range of tests specified by the relevant standard, which may include bullet impact tests and a bonfire test. In spite of these standards, care of cylinders must still be taken, particularly with the fibreglass wrapped and composite cylinders. They must not be subjected to rubbing or chaffing thus, once installed, appropriate measures to ensure adequate protection of NGV cylinder must always be undertaken.

Inspection

CNG cylinders are required to be inspected on a regular basis. The procedures required to ensure that CNG cylinders are safe vary, depending on the type of cylinder and the standard to which the cylinders are made. All installed cylinders must be stamped, showing the date of the last inspection and when the next inspection is due.

Iveco_Stralis_LNG_Jan2011-2-300x200.jpg

LNG fuel tank on an Iveco Stralis

LNG Cylinders

The differences between compressed natural gas (CNG) and liquefied natural gas (LNG) are the methods of production and storage. Both fuels are primarily methane (CH4). LNG is natural gas ‘frozen’ to less than -162o Celcius (-212o Fahrenheit) to liquefy it. The advantage of liquefaction over compression is that the fuel is at a higher density, meaning more energy is contained in the same space – LNG is roughly 600 times the density of natural gas at standard pressure.

In general, LNG is more commonly used for heavier vehicles whereas CNG is used for lighter vehicles. This is not a hard and fast rule though and both fuels may be used in either class of vehicle.

Once the gas is liquefied, it must be kept cold or it will revert to its gaseous state, thus LNG cylinders are designed in a similar fashion to a thermos flask, (i.e. with substantial insulation). This design allows for the fuel to be kept cold for two weeks or more.

Adsorbed Natural Gas (ANG)

ANG involves the storage of natural gas in a nanoporous material (usually carbon derived) at lower pressure than compressed natural gas, usually around 35 bar. The advantage of ANG is, like LNG, that the fuel is stored at a higher density. At this stage ANG is not commercially available or viable but a number of institutions are working on this issue.

Vehicle Fuel Storage | NGV Global Knowledgebase

More useful info.

The use of Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) in transport is a suitable option to power, large long distance trucks in areas where gas is transported as LNG because there are indigenous gas supplies and no gas network. The use of LNG in passenger cars is far less viable because on average passenger cars stand idle more often, which would give rise to high evaporative losses. The use of LNG requires storage facilities for the cold (-162 0C) liquid natural gas at the roadside refueling stations and special fuelling equipment which can handle cryogenic temperatures. In addition, the trucks must be equipped with special dual fuel engines to be able to use LNG.

Moreover, the fuel tank on board of the truck needs to be adapted for LNG usage. These requirements make the use of LNG relatively expensive.
Nevertheless, the use of LNG in the transport sector can still have substantial environmental benefits. It is reported that a truck powered by a dual fuel LNG-diesel engine can emit up to 75% lower NOx emissions and about 13% lower Well-To-Wheel CO2 emissions compared to diesel powered trucks. Overall, the technology to use LNG as a transport fuel is well developed, but is expected to remain a niche market.

Feasibility of technology and operational necessities​

LNG is essentially a fuel for the niche market (McPherson,1999). Liquefying and shipping natural gas is expensive, making the LNG route only attractive for areas where there is a shortage of indigenous gas supplies and where competition from pipeline gas is limited. In addition, the use of LNG requires large investments in terminal and fueling infrastructure. In large quantities LNG can only be transported by sea, so its large-scale use is confined to locations which are accessible via a port. There are only a few LNG projects worldwide, and most of them supply East Asia, which lacks local resources.

Boil off (evaporation) losses in the fuel tank of the vehicle require a high mileage of the vehicle and make the direct use of LNG only economically feasible for Heavy Duty trucks. LNG has a much higher storage density than compressed natural gas, making it more suitable as an alternative to diesel fuel than compressed natural gas (California Energy Commission, 2006). However, the heavy duty trucks need to be equipped with a special natural gas diesel dual-fuel engines (Frailey, 1998).

Moreover, sufficient special refueling stations are needed with a storage tank for the cold liquid natural gas. The boil off losses at the site of the fueling station can be compressed to CNG and be used in passenger cars.


Liquefied Natural Gas in trucks and cars | Climate Technology Centre & Network
 
hizo ni cyrogenic gas cylinder special for LNG and very costly! hata hapa Europe not widely applicable. zaodi ya cylinder inahitaji system ya presuure regulator, pressure relief valve and heat exhganger valve to vaporize the liquid. The technology is called Cryo diffusion yaani ni una-intal mini lng plant ili kuifanya NG iwe LNG kwenye gari!
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Hizi ni storage tanks na ukiangalia kuna chillers aside! Sasa imagine uweke dude hilo jikoni ili tu kuiweka NG kwenye LNG! I guess utahitaji underground cellar for that system!

Hata kwenye gari zinakaa hivi! Ili kui-keep NG at -162° Celsius (-260° Fahrenheit)! I can assure this technology is applicable in trucks with limitations as u need bigger space for its system!
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Vehicle Fuel Storage​

Fuel is most commonly stored on board vehicles in high pressure cylinders as compressed natural gas (CNG). As the name suggests, compressed natural gas is compressed into a high-pressure cylinder, usually to around 250 bar (or lower in some areas).
Emerging methods of storage include Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG), which is already in commercial operation and Adsorbed Natural Gas (ANG), which is still in the developmental stage.
Opel_Zafira_Tourer_CNG_2012_design-300x192.jpg

Opel Zafira Tourer displaying the under-floor CNG storage system

CNG Cylinders

Compressed natural gas (CNG) cylinders are available in a number of different types, weights and sizes to suit different applications. As a general rule, as cylinder weight decreases, cylinder costs increase. In some cases, cylinders are available for lease from vehicle converters or gas suppliers. Details of cylinder suppliers can be found in our Business Directory (see left).

Additional information can also be found in our Guidelines for the Handling of CNG Cylinders document.

Cylinder types include:
Type 1: This is an all metal cylinder made of steel. There is no covering other than paint on the outside of the cylinder. This is the most common type of cylinder.

Type 2: This is a metal cylinder (steel or aluminum) with a partial wrapping that goes around the cylinder. The wrapping is usually made of glass, aramid or carbon, contained in an epoxy or polyester resin.

Type 3: This type of cylinder is fully wrapped with the same kind of material used for the partial wrapping of a Type 2 cylinder. This type of cylinder has a metal liner, usually aluminum.

Type 4: This type of cylinder is fully wrapped with the same kind of material used for the partial wrapping of a Type 2 cylinder. This type of cylinder has a plastic liner.

CNG Cylinder Weight

The importance of the weight of on-board CNG cylinders can vary widely, from critical to minimal relevance. Ultimately, the duty cycle of the vehicle will determine the most appropriate choice of cylinders.

A perception that often arises is that not enough CNG can be carried because the cylinders weigh too much or take up too much space. However, if lightweight cylinders are used and the actual fuel needs of the vehicle are taken into account, the issue of weight can be significantly diminished (vehicles often carry more fuel than is actually required).
P_Bus_EOT_LionsCity_CNG-roof-mounted_storage-300x199.jpg

MAN Lions City bus carrying roof-mounted CNG cylinders

As a rule though, you will generally need to fill up a CNG cylinder more frequently than a gasoline or diesel tank. With the advent of CNG home refuelling, this inconvenience will become minor for most private motorists. Driving into your garage and connecting your car to your home refueller means no more unnecessary trips to the gas station! In other cases, the cost savings on CNG versus gasoline or diesel make the inconvenience seem minor.

For heavier vehicles, innovative solutions for cylinder locations include placement beneath the bunk in a sleeper cabin or on the roof (see image). In some cases, especially buses, carrying the cylinders on the roof actually helps to distribute weight over axles more evenly.

In situations where weight is an issue, cylinders may also be carried on a trailer (assuming the engine is on a Prime Mover), thus distributing the load over more axles. As always, such fit-outs should only be done by qualified and certified professionals.

Durability

CNG cylinders have to be strong structurally in order to contain the high pressure gas. Prior to gaining standards and regulatory approval, the cylinders are subjected to a large range of tests specified by the relevant standard, which may include bullet impact tests and a bonfire test. In spite of these standards, care of cylinders must still be taken, particularly with the fibreglass wrapped and composite cylinders. They must not be subjected to rubbing or chaffing thus, once installed, appropriate measures to ensure adequate protection of NGV cylinder must always be undertaken.

Inspection

CNG cylinders are required to be inspected on a regular basis. The procedures required to ensure that CNG cylinders are safe vary, depending on the type of cylinder and the standard to which the cylinders are made. All installed cylinders must be stamped, showing the date of the last inspection and when the next inspection is due.

Iveco_Stralis_LNG_Jan2011-2-300x200.jpg

LNG fuel tank on an Iveco Stralis

LNG Cylinders

The differences between compressed natural gas (CNG) and liquefied natural gas (LNG) are the methods of production and storage. Both fuels are primarily methane (CH4). LNG is natural gas ‘frozen’ to less than -162o Celcius (-212o Fahrenheit) to liquefy it. The advantage of liquefaction over compression is that the fuel is at a higher density, meaning more energy is contained in the same space – LNG is roughly 600 times the density of natural gas at standard pressure.

In general, LNG is more commonly used for heavier vehicles whereas CNG is used for lighter vehicles. This is not a hard and fast rule though and both fuels may be used in either class of vehicle.

Once the gas is liquefied, it must be kept cold or it will revert to its gaseous state, thus LNG cylinders are designed in a similar fashion to a thermos flask, (i.e. with substantial insulation). This design allows for the fuel to be kept cold for two weeks or more.

Adsorbed Natural Gas (ANG)

ANG involves the storage of natural gas in a nanoporous material (usually carbon derived) at lower pressure than compressed natural gas, usually around 35 bar. The advantage of ANG is, like LNG, that the fuel is stored at a higher density. At this stage ANG is not commercially available or viable but a number of institutions are working on this issue.

Vehicle Fuel Storage | NGV Global Knowledgebase

More useful info.

The use of Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) in transport is a suitable option to power, large long distance trucks in areas where gas is transported as LNG because there are indigenous gas supplies and no gas network. The use of LNG in passenger cars is far less viable because on average passenger cars stand idle more often, which would give rise to high evaporative losses. The use of LNG requires storage facilities for the cold (-162 0C) liquid natural gas at the roadside refueling stations and special fuelling equipment which can handle cryogenic temperatures. In addition, the trucks must be equipped with special dual fuel engines to be able to use LNG.

Moreover, the fuel tank on board of the truck needs to be adapted for LNG usage. These requirements make the use of LNG relatively expensive.
Nevertheless, the use of LNG in the transport sector can still have substantial environmental benefits. It is reported that a truck powered by a dual fuel LNG-diesel engine can emit up to 75% lower NOx emissions and about 13% lower Well-To-Wheel CO2 emissions compared to diesel powered trucks. Overall, the technology to use LNG as a transport fuel is well developed, but is expected to remain a niche market.

Feasibility of technology and operational necessities​

LNG is essentially a fuel for the niche market (McPherson,1999). Liquefying and shipping natural gas is expensive, making the LNG route only attractive for areas where there is a shortage of indigenous gas supplies and where competition from pipeline gas is limited. In addition, the use of LNG requires large investments in terminal and fueling infrastructure. In large quantities LNG can only be transported by sea, so its large-scale use is confined to locations which are accessible via a port. There are only a few LNG projects worldwide, and most of them supply East Asia, which lacks local resources.

Boil off (evaporation) losses in the fuel tank of the vehicle require a high mileage of the vehicle and make the direct use of LNG only economically feasible for Heavy Duty trucks. LNG has a much higher storage density than compressed natural gas, making it more suitable as an alternative to diesel fuel than compressed natural gas (California Energy Commission, 2006). However, the heavy duty trucks need to be equipped with a special natural gas diesel dual-fuel engines (Frailey, 1998).

Moreover, sufficient special refueling stations are needed with a storage tank for the cold liquid natural gas. The boil off losses at the site of the fueling station can be compressed to CNG and be used in passenger cars.


Liquefied Natural Gas in trucks and cars | Climate Technology Centre & Network
Kwa ujumla katika hii debate nakubaliana na wewe Geza. Practically, unachosema ni ukweli kwa sababu Europe wanatumia CNG kwenye pipes kupikia. Huko Tanzania pia ni hivyo hivyo tu,mnatumia CNG kupikia na kwenye viwanda. Hata gesi lenu likija Kenya, litakuja kwa mfumo wa CNG. Hata likienda Uganda kwenye lile pipeline ya Total basi litakuwa bado kwenye mfumo wa CNG. Kwa hivyo kwa sasa wewe ndio umeshinda debate kwa maoni yangu unless joto la jiwe alete evidence kuwa Georgia au nchi yoyote ile wanatumia LNG kwenye cylinder kupikia. Joto akileta hio evidence basi tutaendelea na mjadala ila asipoleta basi mshindi ni wewe. joto la jiwe mimi na wewe ni marafiki lakini huwa nataka kubaki objective yaani kusimama na ukweli. Geza sio rafiki yangu ila amenishawishi na kunifunza mengi. Leta evidence kuwa kuna nchi yoyote inayotumia LNG kwenye cylinders kupikia.
 
hizo ni cyrogenic gas cylinder special for LNG and very costly na hata hapa Europe not widely applicable as not portable for home use and in vehicles. In vehicles zaidi ya cylinder utahitaji ku-install a complete system ya presure regulator, pressure relief valve and heat exchanger valve to vaporize the liquid. The technology is called Cryo diffusion yaani ni una-instal mini LNG plant kwenye gari ili kuifanya NG/CNG iwe LNG! The technology is pretty new n costly!
Mie nilikuwa Czech Republic kwa miaka miwili. Unapafahamu?
 
Kwa ujumla katika hii debate nakubaliana na wewe Geza. Practically, unachosema ni ukweli kwa sababu Europe wanatumia CNG kwenye pipes kupikia. Huko Tanzania pia ni hivyo hivyo tu,mnatumia CNG kupikia na kwenye viwanda. Hata gesi lenu likija Kenya, litakuja kwa mfumo wa CNG. Hata likienda Uganda kwenye lile pipeline ya Total basi litakuwa bado kwenye mfumo wa CNG. Kwa hivyo kwa sasa wewe ndio umeshinda debate kwa maoni yangu unless joto la jiwe alete evidence kuwa Georgia au nchi yoyote ile wanatumia LNG kwenye cylinder kupikia. Joto akileta hio evidence basi tutaendelea na mjadala ila asipoleta basi mshindi ni wewe. joto la jiwe mimi na wewe ni marafiki lakini huwa nataka kubaki objective yaani kusimama na ukweli. Geza sio rafiki yangu ila amenishawishi na kunifunza mengi. Leta evidence kuwa kuna nchi yoyote inayotumia LNG kwenye cylinders kupikia.
Kitu kimoja ninachokiona kwa Geza japo anajaribu kupinga ni kwamba yupo nyuma sana na wakati, yeye anajaribu kulinganisha maisha ya Tanzania/Africa kuwa ndio maisha ya dunia nzima.

Ulaya na nchi zilizoendelea, wamefanikiwa kuunganisha wanachi wao wote kwa kutumia mabomba ya maji, gas na umeme, kwahiyo huwezi, huwezi kukuta watu wanajichimbia visima vyao vya maji kama huku kwetu, au wanatumia generator za umeme kama huku kwetu au wana mitungi ya Gas kama huku kwetu.

Wanachotumia huko ni "central gas distribution system", katika mfumo huu, LNG inayoletwa na Meli, inapakuliwa bandarini na moja kwa moja inakwenda kwenye " Main National gas storage tank", ambayo mara nyingi inakua wameijenga karibu na Bandari, kutokea hapo gas LNG inabafilishwa na kuwa Gas na kuingizwa katika mabomba kama CNG na kusambazwa kwa Wateja, Sweden ni mfano mzuri katika hili, nadhani hata UK.

Ila nchi nyingi zimeunganishwa na bomba moja kwa moja toka Russia na kufika hadi Germany, France na nchi nyingi za Ulaya, kwahiyo wanatumia CNG ya kwenye mabomba" straight", bila kugeuzwa kuwa LNG.

Ila nchi ambazo bado ni masikini hazijafanikiwa kuwaunganisha wananchi wao wote, hasa vijijini kama vile Romania, bado wanumia LNG ya kwenye Cylinders, hata katika baadhi ya sehemu ambazo ni very remote milimani katika nchi zilizoendelea ambako sio "Economical kusambaza mabomba ya gesi katika nchi ya Ufarasa, pia bado wanapelekewa LNG kwa kutumia magari na kujaziwa katika Cylinders.

Tofauti Kati ya Cylinders za LNG na LPG ni kwamba Cylinders za LNG Mara nyingi wanazifix pembeni mwa nyumba, gari ndio zinapita kujaza gas, sio kama huku kwetu tunabeba mitungi midogo na tunaingia nayo jikoni. Wenzetu huwa Cylinders zao ni kubwa na Somalia "installed" na kujengewa permanently, nje ya nyumba zao, kama umeishi Romania utakua unajua ninachozungumza.

Kama nchi bado haijasambaza mabomba ya Gesi kwa wananchi, Hakuna njia nyengine ambapo NG gasi inaweza kutumika bila kutumia cylinders za LNG, never on Earth.

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Kitu kimoja ninachokiona kwa Geza japo anajaribu kupinga ni kwamba yupo nyuma sana na wakati, yeye anajaribu kulinganisha maisha ya Tanzania/Africa kuwa ndio maisha ya dunia nzima.

Ulaya na nchi zilizoendelea, wamefanikiwa kuunganisha wanachi wao wote kwa kutumia mabomba ya maji, gas na umeme, kwahiyo huwezi, huwezi kukuta watu wanajichimbia visima vyao vya maji kama huku kwetu, au wanatumia generator za umeme kama huku kwetu au wana mitungi ya Gas kama huku kwetu.

Wanachotumia huko ni "central gas distribution system", katika mfumo huu, LNG inayoletwa na Meli, inapakuliwa bandarini na moja kwa moja inakwenda kwenye " Main National gas storage tank", ambayo mara nyingi inakua wameijenga karibu na Bandari, kutokea hapo gas LNG inabafilishwa na kuwa Gas na kuingizwa katika mabomba kama CNG na kusambazwa kwa Wateja, Sweden ni mfano mzuri katika hili, nadhani hata UK.

Ila nchi nyingi zimeunganishwa na bomba moja kwa moja toka Russia na kufika hadi Germany, France na nchi nyingi za Ulaya, kwahiyo wanatumia CNG ya kwenye mabomba" straight", bila kugeuzwa kuwa LNG.

Ila nchi ambazo bado ni masikini hazijafanikiwa kuwaunganisha wananchi wao wote, hasa vijijini kama vile Romania, bado wanumia LNG ya kwenye Cylinders, hata katika baadhi ya sehemu ambazo ni very remote milimani katika nchi zilizoendelea ambako sio "Economical kusambaza mabomba ya gesi katika nchi ya Ufarasa, pia bado wanapelekewa LNG kwa kutumia magari na kujaziwa katika Cylinders.

Tofauti Kati ya Cylinders za LNG na LPG ni kwamba Cylinders za LNG Mara nyingi wanazifix pembeni mwa nyumba, gari ndio zinapita kujaza gas, sio kama huku kwetu tunabeba mitungi midogo na tunaingia nayo jikoni. Wenzetu huwa Cylinders zao ni kubwa na Somalia "installed" na kujengewa permanently, nje ya nyumba zao, kama umeishi Romania utakua unajua ninachozungumza.

Kama nchi bado haijasambaza mabomba ya Gesi kwa wananchi, Hakuna njia nyengine ambapo NG gasi inaweza kutumika bila kutumia cylinders za LNG, never on Earth.

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Hii yote uliyoelezea ni nzuri na inavutia sana sasa tunachotaka ni evidence. Geza ameshamwaga evidence ya mipicha na mivideo. Sasa wewe weka evidence yoyote utakayopata kwenye internet kuwa ulichoandika hapa ni kweli. Hapa JF hatustahili kumuamini mtu yeyote bila evidence. Hii ndio tofauti ya JF na social media zingine ambazo hazina standards za kimataifa. JF huwa tunakuja ili tujifunze mambo mengi. Sasa weka evidence halafu mtakuwa mmetoka draw-draw.
 
Hili bomba la gesi kwa Kenya is a matter of life and death, hawana ujanja wa kulikwepa, Kenya misitu michache iliyobaki inakatwa kwa kasi sana kwa ajili ya kuni na mkaa, wanahitaji hii gesi kwa haraka sana kupunguza kasi ya "deforestration".
Wewe umejazwa chuki hadi pomoni. Let me ask, what's the percentage of Tanzanians using firewood as a primary source of energy for cooking? I would love if you could back up your information with a reliable source. We want to compare notes here
 
Hii yote uliyoelezea ni nzuri na inavutia sana sasa tunachotaka ni evidence. Geza ameshamwaga evidence ya mipicha na mivideo. Sasa wewe weka evidence yoyote utakayopata kwenye internet kuwa ulichoandika hapa ni kweli. Hapa JF hatustahili kumuamini mtu yeyote bila evidence. Hii ndio tofauti ya JF na social media zingine ambazo hazina standards za kimataifa. JF huwa tunakuja ili tujifunze mambo mengi. Sasa weka evidence halafu mtakuwa mmetoka draw-draw.
Hii video hapa inathibitisha yote ninayoyasema kwa kifupi sana.


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Wewe umejazwa chuki hadi pomoni. Let me ask, what's the percentage of Tanzanians using firewood as a primary source of energy for cooking? I would love if you could back up your information with a reliable source. We want to compare notes here
Tony254, anamuelewa huyu jamaa yako?

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Hii yote uliyoelezea ni nzuri na inavutia sana sasa tunachotaka ni evidence. Geza ameshamwaga evidence ya mipicha na mivideo. Sasa wewe weka evidence yoyote utakayopata kwenye internet kuwa ulichoandika hapa ni kweli. Hapa JF hatustahili kumuamini mtu yeyote bila evidence. Hii ndio tofauti ya JF na social media zingine ambazo hazina standards za kimataifa. JF huwa tunakuja ili tujifunze mambo mengi. Sasa weka evidence halafu mtakuwa mmetoka draw-draw.
Tafadhali pitia post #221, kisha linganisha na video Post #255, utapata jibu [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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