'Na pesa yetu' ATCL already making massive losses... CAG report

[kennedy0000]

Hahahahaha, mention just one which is over $1B funded by GoK. Hahahahaha let me give you few projects in Tanzania.
1)SGR $3.9B
2)Rufiji dam $3B
3)ATCL planes $800M

Hahahahaha, hahahahaha, hahaha

Lapsett - $10 billion
SGR - $10 billion

Just to name a few.
If you have evidence that these projects are donations, bring it here.
Otherwise, if something is not a donation, you pay for it.

 

[Kifaru_07]

WaTanzania mna danganywa virahisi sana. Eti pesa za ndani zina jenga reli... hahaha

Budget ya 2018 ilikua $14b na revenue collection $900mil.. ndege tuu umesema ni $800mil, kwa hivyo una maanisha nchi nzima hakuna chochote kingine kilifanywa ata mishahara juu pesa zote zilienda kulipia ndege? Budget of 2018/19 did not have this large amount provisioned for reli na ndege.
Report ziko za kuonyesha Reli inajengwa na mkopo kutoka Standard chartered bank, ata mkitaka hamna hela inatosha kutoka TRA kujenga na kufanya vitu vingine.

Arguing here is like arguing with extreme feminists or flat earthers. Whatever evidence is there even infront of their eyes and reports from even Tz govt itself,this people they will not accept, watapinga na uongo mpaka kufa

 

[joto la jiwe]

Literally outside my office window there is a road expansion happening. Hii barabara haiko kwa hiyo repoti. Nashindwa basi kwani mwandishi wa hio ripoti alikuwa kipofu.

Kenya has projects worth several trillions. We pay for all of them. As I told, you, we don't take donations.
We just sit down and agree on payment plans.

Just mention one project which is $1B and above, stop your zig zag, let me repeat
1) SGR $3.9B
2)Rufiji dam $3B
3)ATCL planes $800
All these were funded by GoT
Hahahahaha, hahahahaha, hahahahaha.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Lapsett - $10 billion
SGR - $10 billion

Just to name a few.
If you have evidence that these projects are donations, bring it here.
Otherwise, if something is not a donation, you pay for it.

Hahahahaha, hahahahaha, hahahahaha. Without China, there is no Kenya.
Hahahahaha, hahahahaha, hahahahaha.
Kenya imefilisika inaendeshwa kwa mikopo, hahahahaha, hahahahaha.

 

[joto la jiwe]

WaTanzania mna danganywa virahisi sana. Eti pesa za ndani zina jenga reli... hahaha

Budget ya 2018 ilikua $14b na revenue collection $900mil.. ndege tuu umesema ni $800mil, kwa hivyo una maanisha nchi nzima hakuna chochote kingine kilifanywa ata mishahara juu pesa zote zilienda kulipia ndege? Budget of 2018/19 did not have this large amount provisioned for reli na ndege.
Report ziko za kuonyesha Reli inajengwa na mkopo kutoka Standard chartered bank, ata mkitaka hamna hela inatosha kutoka TRA kujenga na kufanya vitu vingine.

Arguing here is like arguing with extreme feminists or flat earthers. Whatever evidence is there even infront of their eyes and reports from even Tz govt itself,this people they will not accept, watapinga na uongo mpaka kufa

Huna akili wewe za kujenga hoja. Hayo makusanyo unayosema ni kwa mwezi, na ndege tumelipa ndani ya kipindi cha miaka miwili, kumbuka unaweka down payment ya 15% kwanza wakati wa kuweka order, then wakati wanaendelea kutengeneza unalipia kidogo kidogo hadi ukikabidhiwa ndio unamalizia.

Hivyo hivyo katika ujenzi wa SGR, kila mwaka wizara ya Ujenzi na Usafirijaji inaweka katika budget yake $800 kwa ajili ya ujenzi wa SGR, wewe ulitaka uone neno SGR katika budget?, hiyo ipo ndani ya wizara husika, kila mwaka serikali inatoa hizo pesa katika wizara husika, hahahahaha, hahahahaha.

 

[kennedy0000]

Hahahahaha, hahahahaha, hahahahaha. Without China, there is no Kenya.
Hahahahaha, hahahahaha, hahahahaha.
Kenya imefilisika inaendeshwa kwa mikopo, hahahahaha, hahahahaha.

Let me remind you of Thika Superhighway.
Paid for completely by the government of Kenya, over several years.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Let me remind you of Thika Superhighway.
Paid for completely by the government of Kenya, over several years.

Unakopa pale ambapo huna pesa kwa wakati ule, huwezi kuishi kwa mikopo, kumbuka unapoteza Uhuru wako kwasababu mkopo huwa una masharti, ona jinsi wachina wanavyowanyasa wakenya kule SGR

 

[kennedy0000]

Unakopa pale ambapo huna pesa kwa wakati ule, huwezi kuishi kwa mikopo, kumbuka unapoteza Uhuru wako kwasababu mkopo huwa una masharti, ona jinsi wachina wanavyowanyasa wakenya kule SGR

Chinese harassment is overblown news.
And for you info, China is not even our biggest lender. Local banks are our biggest lenders.

US survives with debt. Japan survives with debt. Europe after WW2 was reconstructed with debt. etc.
We're in good company.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Chinese harassment is overblown news.
And for you info, China is not even our biggest lender. Local banks are our biggest lenders.

US survives with debt. Japan survives with debt. Europe after WW2 was reconstructed with debt. etc.
We're in good company.

China now owns more than 70% of Kenya’s bilateral debt

Critics argue increased lending from China will only encourage dependency and have the potential of a debt trap.

qz-com.cdn.ampproject.org

Who is your biggest lender?

 

[kennedy0000]

China now owns more than 70% of Kenya’s bilateral debt

Critics argue increased lending from China will only encourage dependency and have the potential of a debt trap.

qz-com.cdn.ampproject.org

Who is your biggest lender?

Do you know the meaning of bilateral?
We have 5 Trillion of debt and China owns only Sh534 billion of it from that report.
That is 21% of external debt, but just 10% of total debt.

You talk here as if China owns 99% of our total debt.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Aisee wewe kichwa chako kimejaa mavi, wewe umesema China sio biggest lender, Mimi nimekuwekea link inayoonyesha kwamba China is the biggest lender, nikataka uniwekee link ambayo itaonyesha tofauti, badala yake unaleta stories.

Hata kama China debts to Kenya is 2%, that still can make China the biggest lender so long there is no other lenders who exceed 2%.

Do you know the meaning of bilateral?
We have 5 Trillion of debt and China owns only Sh534 billion of it from that report.
That is 21% of external debt, but just 10% of total debt.

You talk here as if China owns 99% of our total debt.

 

[kennedy0000]

Aisee wewe kichwa chako kimejaa mavi, wewe umesema China sio biggest lender, Mimi nimekuwekea link inayoonyesha kwamba China is the biggest lender, nikataka uniwekee link ambayo itaonyesha tofauti, badala yake unaleta stories.

Hata kama China debts to Kenya is 2%, that still can make China the biggest lender so long there is no other lenders who exceed 2%.

Local banks are our biggest lenders. Not China

 

[joto la jiwe]

Local banks are our biggest lenders. Not China

Show me a single Bank which exceeds China.

 

[Kafrican]

China now owns more than 70% of Kenya’s bilateral debt

Critics argue increased lending from China will only encourage dependency and have the potential of a debt trap.

qz-com.cdn.ampproject.org

Who is your biggest lender?

Aisee wewe kichwa chako kimejaa mavi, wewe umesema China sio biggest lender, Mimi nimekuwekea link inayoonyesha kwamba China is the biggest lender, nikataka uniwekee link ambayo itaonyesha tofauti, badala yake unaleta stories.

Hata kama China debts to Kenya is 2%, that still can make China the biggest lender so long there is no other lenders who exceed 2%.

Show me a single Bank which exceeds China.

Kennedy was right, hio link ulioweka hao jamaa walichanganyikiwa, infact mwanzo walikua wanasema ni 72% of all external debt alafu walipogundua wamekosea wakageuza Mada na kusema 72% of all external debt, hii NI kabla wakosolewe na 'africacheck.org' na kuambiwa kwamba kwenye external debt kuna multilateral,bilateral, commercial..etc, hapo ndipo waliona walipokosea na kurekebisha Mada tena na kusema hio 72% ni ya bilateral debt....
WB ndo single biggest lender institution to Kenya.....

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China owns 21.3% of Kenya’s external debt – not 70% as reported

China owns 21.3% of Kenya’s external debt - not 70% as reported

Does China account for nearly three-quarters of the money Kenya owes foreign lenders?

africacheck.org

Kenya's total external debt as of March 2018 was $25B out of which $5.34B is from China.
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Kenya’s external debt as at 31 March 2018 was KSh2.51 trillion. It was made up of:

• Multilateral debt: KSh832.22 billion
• Commercial debt: KSh799.19 billion
• Bilateral debt: KSh741.04 billion
• Guaranteed debt (that the government has agreed to pay for other parties in case they default): KSh140.04 billion

China’s share of Kenya’s external debt is therefore KSh534.07 billion of KSh2.51 trillion.
“Kenya’s debt to China is [thus] 21.3% of Kenya’s external public debt,”

 

[joto la jiwe]

Kennedy was right, hio link ulioweka hao jamaa walichanganyikiwa, infact mwanzo walikua wanasema ni 72% of all external debt alafu walipogundua wamekosea wakageuza Mada na kusema 72% of all external debt, hii NI kabla wakosolewe na 'africacheck.org' na kuambiwa kwamba kwenye external debt kuna multilateral,bilateral, commercial..etc, hapo ndipo waliona walipokosea na kurekebisha Mada tena na kusema hio 72% ni ya bilateral debt....
WB ndo single biggest lender institution to Kenya.....

---___________

China owns 21.3% of Kenya’s external debt – not 70% as reported

China owns 21.3% of Kenya’s external debt - not 70% as reported

Does China account for nearly three-quarters of the money Kenya owes foreign lenders?

africacheck.org

Kenya's total external debt as of March 2018 was $25B out of which $5.34B is from China.
______
Kenya’s external debt as at 31 March 2018 was KSh2.51 trillion. It was made up of:

• Multilateral debt: KSh832.22 billion
• Commercial debt: KSh799.19 billion
• Bilateral debt: KSh741.04 billion
• Guaranteed debt (that the government has agreed to pay for other parties in case they default): KSh140.04 billion

China’s share of Kenya’s external debt is therefore KSh534.07 billion of KSh2.51 trillion.
“Kenya’s debt to China is [thus] 21.3% of Kenya’s external public debt,”

For a long time China has been the biggest lender, until three months ago when Kenya took money from WB to make it the biggest lender with a small margin, WB($5.8B), China($5.5B). Uhuru visited China recently looking for $3.6B, soon China will be by far the biggest lender again.

 

[game over]

Our dear supreme leader has lost his mind

Unaposena Our unamaanisha wewe na nani?

 

[Kafrican]

For a long time China has been the biggest lender, until three months ago when Kenya took money from WB to make it the biggest lender with a small margin, WB($5.8B), China($5.5B). Uhuru visited China recently looking for $3.6B, soon China will be by far the biggest lender again.

Which long time is this? Biggest loan from China was for the SGR which was received in 2013.... So tell me which huge WB loan that we have taken 3 months ago (or even since 2013) that was so huge it bypassed China as the biggest lender....

And BTW b4 you even answer that, That GoK data is for March 2018 (we are now in April 2019, that's one year later) that shows WB was already the biggest lender to Kenya so you don't make sense when you say WB is the biggest lender because they gave us a loan only 3 months ago...


FYI before the SGR loan Japan used to be the biggest billateral lender to Kenya

 

[joto la jiwe]

Which long time is this? Biggest loan from China was for the SGR which was received in 2013.... So tell me which huge WB loan that we have taken 3 months ago (or even since 2013) that was so huge it bypassed China as the biggest lender....

And BTW b4 you even answer that, That GoK data is for March 2018 (we are now in April 2019, that's one year later) that shows WB was already the biggest lender to Kenya so you don't make sense when you say WB is the biggest lender because they gave us a loan only 3 months ago...


FYI before the SGR loan Japan used to be the biggest billateral lender to Kenya

China tops list of lenders to Kenya

China tops list of lenders to Kenya

www-nation-co-ke.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[Kafrican]

China tops list of lenders to Kenya

China tops list of lenders to Kenya

www-nation-co-ke.cdn.ampproject.org

Kwahivyo uliposema for a long time China imekua biggest lender to Kenya ulikua unamaanisha 2017 kama inavyosema kwa hio link? Mimi nimekwambia China lianza kuongoza from 2013 wewe unaniletea habari inayosema China ilianzakuongoza from 2017.....

Haya nimekubali basi, For a long time (2017) China imekua biggest single bilateral lender to Kenya!!!! You are absolutely right!!!!

 

[MK254]

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