Nairobi vs Kampala

Nicxie · Sep 6, 2019

thisdayes said:
I have seen you putting alot of prominence on two points, currency value and budget just to prove your point that Kenya is ahead. Be informed that a strong currency has never and will never be a determinant in measuring the well-being of an economy. Infact a weak currency is more favourable to an economy with ambitions to compete in international trade, most especially a developing economy. In economics perspective the Kenyan relative strong currency is doing them more harm than good e.g higher costs of production, higher wage rates e.t.c. hence affecting its competetiveness negatively.

A budget is simply an estimate of income and expenditure, lets focus on the expenditure side. Since Kenya has a strong currency than her peers in the region. What Usd 500m can do in Tz or any where else in E.A will do less in Kenya other factors remain constant. A good example are the infustructure projects undertaken by the GOT using local funds e.g SGR, Mega Hydro dam in Rufiji, bridges, e.t.c. The Kenya you praise to have a "high" budget cant implement even half of the aforementioned projects without acquiring a loan. Infact Kenya despite her "higher" budget its so broke to an extent of acquiring new loans to pay old loans! Number of millionaires and other minor issues you mentioned are explainable in favour of Tz. Too bad, now is not the right time but go research the genesis of both economies Tz and Ke. BTW i have also travelled across E.A, been to all E.A nations. Sasa hivi nipo Nyalenda Kisumu [emoji23][emoji16][emoji41]View attachment 1199461

You are trying to sound like a real economist and I can see your fellows clapping and stamping their feet for you. Well, you are just a wannabe. A fellow who the word economics is as foreign to as the profession itself. In my entire life, I have never seen a case where having a stronger currency is a disadvantage and having a weaker currency is a blessing in disguise. If that were the case, Zimbabwe would be a flourishing African state used as a case study as far as development is concerned. Everything you are saying here is just hot water, empty rhetoric meant to hoodwink your fellows and massage their egos.

Saying that $500 million can do more in Tanzania than Kenya because Kenya has a stronger currency is baseless argument that lacks an iota of truth in it. That money can only do more in Tanzania if the cost of raw materials and other factors of production are cheaper in Tanzania than Kenya, but not because Tanzania has a weaker currency. That is stupid argument and way of looking at things. How does a stronger currency result to high cost of production as you imply above? What economic explanation can support this argument? High costs of production come as a result of many factors, key among them being taxation, cost of electricity among many other things. I have never seen a case where having a strong currency is a factor leading to high cost of production.
Wadanganye watanzania wenzako, sio sisi!

NairobiWalker · Sep 6, 2019

Chige said:
Kilichokufanya utumie Kiingereza nini wakati post yako uliandika kwa Kiswahili?!

Aidha umesema Wabongo ndio wameanza kuhamisha magoli wakati mtiririko unaonesha ni Mkenya kwenye post yake #2 ndie alianza kuizungumzia Dar wakati mada ni Kampala vs Nairobi! Nini Usicholewa?!

You don't understand English? Didn't you go to school? You don't get the meaning of OP? That's not my problem.

Anyway, here is the first time Dar was mentioned. The very first post.

deecarter said:
Nairobi ni jiji kubwa kwa upande wa kenya na ndio jiji lililokuwa linashikilia nafasi ya kwanza katika majiji makubwa afrika mashariki kabla ya jiji la Dar es salaam kufanya revolution na kuwa mbele zaidi ya Nairobi sasa ni wakati wa comparison kati ya Nairobi na kampala. kwa upande wa kampala ndio jiji kubwa zaidi nchini Uganda and apart from that kampala inaweza kulinganishwa na majiji mengine kama Nairobi
TUMIA BUSARA KUJIBU NA SIO MATUSI

HII MAMBO YA KUKALILI HEBU TUIACHE

PLEASE ITs ONLY ABOUT NAIROBI and KAMPALA

NairobiWalker · Sep 6, 2019

Nicxie said:
Umesema Dar iko well planned kushinda Nairobi ama mimi ndio nimesoma vibaya? 😂 😂 😂 mbavu zangu zauma. Kama Dar iko planned, then the word plan just got a whole new meaning. You even have what you love to call unplanned settlements (uswazi) that cover a third of your city so iweje leo Dar iko planned?
Kuhusu hizo mambo mengine uluzotaja, nataka niguze tu barabara. How many highways do you have in Dar? I think you built your first flyover this year wakati Nairobi hazihesabiki. Najua utataja brt but that thing doesn't even cover 1/8 of Dar. Ushabiki saa zingine ni kitu mbaya

Uswazi actually covers 2 thirds of Dar, not a third.

mkorinto · Sep 6, 2019

Nicxie said:
Umesema Dar iko well planned kushinda Nairobi ama mimi ndio nimesoma vibaya? [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] mbavu zangu zauma. Kama Dar iko planned, then the word plan just got a whole new meaning. You even have what you love to call unplanned settlements (uswazi) that cover a third of your city so iweje leo Dar iko planned?
Kuhusu hizo mambo mengine uluzotaja, nataka niguze tu barabara. How many highways do you have in Dar? I think you built your first flyover this year wakati Nairobi hazihesabiki. Najua utataja brt but that thing doesn't even cover 1/8 of Dar. Ushabiki saa zingine ni kitu mbaya

hizi vitu umetaja hapa sijaongelea mimi[emoji16][emoji16]ni uoga ama kiwewe?

eti highway,highway imeshindwa kutoa jam sijui ilijengwa kwa misingi gani?mnatoka mnakimbia mkifika milango ya cbd mnatwangwa jam ya kufa kiumbe.

brt siwezi isemea maana iko 30% na inaumiza kila mkenya.

Kosugi · Sep 6, 2019

Nicxie said:
Ubaya wako ni kwamba wewe ni shabiki tu. Huelewi vitu vingi
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Naona mama unawashwa na pili pili usiyoila.
Huyo unayemtetea nimemuuliza tunazungumzia Africa ama America labda unijibu.
Hujui upeo wangu wa utambuzi ukoje mpk unaniambia sielewi vtu vingi una uhakika gani???!!

Joseph lebai · Sep 6, 2019

Ukilinganisha Dar na Mombasa ni kichekesho, fanya utafiti.

Nicxie · Sep 6, 2019

mkorinto said:
hizi vitu umetaja hapa sijaongelea mimi[emoji16][emoji16]ni uoga ama kiwewe?

eti highway,highway imeshindwa kutoa jam sijui ilijengwa kwa misingi gani?mnatoka mnakimbia mkifika milango ya cbd mnatwangwa jam ya kufa kiumbe.

brt siwezi isemea maana iko 30% na inaumiza kila mkenya.

Hujaongea kuhusu plan? Masters of denial! Jam ziko kila mahal, sio Nairobi tu. More vehicles on the roads means the middle class is expanding, not because we don't have roads. Nairobi has wider roads than what you have down there (and we are building even more) Kwa hivyo hiyo isiwe tatizo kwako. Hata nyinyi jengeni tu barabara Dar

Nicxie · Sep 6, 2019

Kosugi said:
Naona mama unawashwa na pili pili usiyoila.
Huyo unayemtetea nimemuuliza tunazungumzia Africa ama America labda unijibu.
Hujui upeo wangu wa utambuzi ukoje mpk unaniambia sielewi vtu vingi una uhakika gani???!!

Huyu sio wewe? Niko na uhakika 100% kwa sababu hata hiyo screenshot ukileta, hukuchuwa mda wako kuiangalia vizuri. Area ya Dar was written in square miles (coming to around 500 square miles) while that of New York was in square kilometres. Sasa kubali hujui vitu vingi

Kosugi · Sep 6, 2019

Nicxie said:
Huyu sio wewe? Niko na uhakika 100% kwa sababu hata hiyo screenshot ukileta, hukuchuwa Mudalishe wako kuiangali vizuri. Area ya Dar was written in square miles (coming to around 500 square miles) while that of New York was in square kilometres. Sasa kubali hujui vitu vingi
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Jibu swali langu la kwa huyo unayemtetea je tunazungumzia Africa ama America ???!!!!
We huwez sema mm sijui vtu vingi ushamsahau mwalimu wako alokuelekeza kuhusu informal/unplanned settlements???
Ushamsahau mwalimu alokufundisha different between informal and slums ???!!!!
Eti ushamsahau mwalimu wako alokuelekeza kuwa kuna past and current news???!!!!!
Naona unabwabwaja sana mamaa.

Nicxie · Sep 6, 2019

Kosugi said:
Jibu swali langu la kwa huyo unayemtetea je tunazungumzia Africa ama America ???!!!!
We huwez sema mm sijui vtu vingi ushamsahau mwalimu wako alokuelekeza kuhusu informal/unplanned settlements???
Ushamsahau mwalimu alokufundisha different between informal and slums ???!!!!
Eti ushamsahau mwalimu wako alokuelekeza kuwa kuna past and current news???!!!!!
Naona unabwabwaja sana mamaa.

My work is done here. I just wanted to disprove you and I think I have.

NairobiWalker · Sep 6, 2019

mkorinto said:
hizi vitu umetaja hapa sijaongelea mimi[emoji16][emoji16]ni uoga ama kiwewe?

eti highway,highway imeshindwa kutoa jam sijui ilijengwa kwa misingi gani?mnatoka mnakimbia mkifika milango ya cbd mnatwangwa jam ya kufa kiumbe.

brt siwezi isemea maana iko 30% na inaumiza kila mkenya.

Wewe unadhani Nairobi iko na magari mbili kama Dar is slum?

Nicxie · Sep 6, 2019

NairobiWalker said:
Wewe unadhani Nairobi iko na magari mbili kama Dar is slum?

😂 😂 😂 Eti gari mbili. Umenichekesha kweli. the number of vehicles in Nairobi is almost twice what they have in Dar. Thika road alone handles more than 100,000 vehicles daily

instanbul · Sep 6, 2019

stakehigh said:
kwan tz akuna slums: ivi unajua ata kufikisha umeme kagera mpaka leo imeshindkana kiasi kwamba wananchi wa kagera wanatumia umeme wa uganda?

Aliyekwambia imeshindikana ni Nani? Wakati ni adhabu Kwa uganda

Kosugi · Sep 6, 2019

Nicxie said:
My work is done here. I just wanted to disprove you and I think I have.

Good when you want to correct someone stop undermining him because no body knows everything.
Even you, you know many things yet.

mkorinto · Sep 6, 2019

Nicxie said:
Hujaongea kuhusu plan? Masters of denial! Jam ziko kila mahal, sio Nairobi tu. More vehicles on the roads means the middle class is expanding, not because we don't have roads. Nairobi has wider roads than what you have down there (and we are building even more) Kwa hivyo hiyo isiwe tatizo kwako. Hata nyinyi jengeni tu barabara Dar

aisee.

tuliishamalizana na barabara kitambo,na hazikusaidia,mpaka tunafanya kwa namna nyingine,brt na city train.

ni kufikiri tu tunatofautiana.

Nicxie · Sep 6, 2019

Kosugi said:
Good when you want to correct someone stop undermining him because no body knows everything.
Even you, you know many things yet.

I was not undermining you coz that's not my nature. Of course we can't know everything, I know that perfectly well. If you felt offended pole

Nicxie · Sep 6, 2019

mkorinto said:
aisee.

tuliishamalizana na barabara kitambo,na hazikusaidia,mpaka tunafanya kwa namna nyingine,brt na city train.

ni kufikiri tu tunatofautiana.

Kumbe nyinyi mshamaliza safari na ndio mnajenga flyover ya kwanza! 😂 😂 Sisi tunazo nyingi huku na ndio tumeanza coz hizo hazitoshi. Kama nyinyi mshafika na hiyo yenu moja basi pole kwenu. Ubaya mtaanza kusema Nairobi ilijengwa na wazungu

thisdayes · Sep 6, 2019

Nicxie said:
You are trying to sound like a real economist and I can see your fellows clapping and stamping their feet for you. Well, you are just a wannabe. A fellow who the word economics is as foreign to as the profession itself. In my entire life, I have never seen a case where having a stronger currency is a disadvantage and having a weaker currency is a blessing in disguise. If that were the case, Zimbabwe would be a flourishing African state used as a case study as far as development is concerned. Everything you are saying here is just hot water, empty rhetoric meant to hoodwink your fellows and massage their egos.

Saying that $500 million can do more in Tanzania than Kenya because Kenya has a stronger currency is baseless argument that lacks an iota of truth in it. That money can only do more in Tanzania if the cost of raw materials and other factors of production are cheaper in Tanzania than Kenya, but not because Tanzania has a weaker currency. That is stupid argument and way of looking at things. How does a stronger currency result to high cost of production as you imply above? What economic explanation can support this argument? High costs of production come as a result of many factors, key among them being taxation, cost of electricity among many other things. I have never seen a case where having a strong currency is a factor leading to high cost of production.
Wadanganye watanzania wenzako, sio sisi!

"Other factors remaining constant" you missed that point! If you are an economist you should know better. Economics allows arguments, no wonder Uhuru argues with Prof Ndii! so your argument on currency is understandable but not valid ceteris peribus. I wish i had ample time for this, peace up.

Nicxie · Sep 6, 2019

thisdayes said:
"Other factors remaining constant" you missed that point! If you are an economist you should know better. Economics allows arguments, no wonder Uhuru argues with Prof Ndii! so your argument on currency is understandable but not valid ceteris peribus. I wish i had ample time for this, peace up.

It is still empty rhetoric. That's what it is

Chige · Sep 6, 2019

NairobiWalker said:
You don't understand English? Didn't you go to school? You don't get the meaning of OP? That's not my problem.

Anyway, here is the first time Dar was mentioned. The very first post.

Ona ulivyo mshamba! Kwahiyo kufahamu Kiingereza ndo kwenda shule sio?! Kwa maana nyingine uliacha kuandika kwa Kiswahili ambacho ulianza nacho ili kuonesha umeenda shule?!

Hivi huu ushamba wa kuonea fahari Kiingereza mtaacha lini nyie watu?! Waganda ni wazuri kwenye Kiingereza kuliko Wakenya lakini ni nadra sana ukute Waganda wanaonea fahari lugha ya Kiingereza!!

Sio mbaya lakini, endapo hutajali naomba nikupuuze! Naomba nikupuuze kwa sababu hujui hata unachoongea!

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