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Mkuu inawezekana figure zikawa zimeongezwa lakini, Wayahudi ni kweli waliuliwa ndio maana hadi kwa sasa kuna makumbusho maeneo kama kule Sobibor...
Mkuu Katavi, Kuna mwana Historia mmoja wa Marekani anaitwa Mark Weber. Kasomea University of Illinois na kaandika "papers" kadhaa. Kaongelea sana jambo hili. Hapa chini nabandika paper yake moja IN FULL kila mtu aisome kama ana muda. Kisha Pima mwenyewe.
Source: Auschwitz: Myths and Facts
Angalia, idadi ya wayahudi wanaodaiwa kuuliwa haapo kambini imeshashuka toka 4 million (Hapo Auschwitz) hadi chini ya laki 5!!!!!!
cc Eiyer, Mkuu wa chuo,
Hapo mwanzo unaonesha kuwa hauna uhakika na ukiongeacho.
Pata darsa Dogo:
Wayahudi ni kama kusema Wakristo, Wakristo wanamfata Christ. Wayahudi wanamfata Yehud.
Ki Hebrew na Kiarabu ni Semitic languages, expression zake zinafana na kwa kuwa Kiswahili chetu kina asilimia kubwa ya Kiarabu nikikufahamisha utanielewa (nadhani).
Kusema nchi yao ni Judea si sahihi. Leo hii nikisema Usukumani ni nchi ya Wasukuma, ntakuwa nafanya makosa, Wasukuma nchi yao ni Tanzania lakini wanapatikana sana Shinyanga na Mwanza na ndiyo maana huko walipo wengi panaitwa Usukumani. Lakini Usukumani si nchi ni sawa na Uyahudi, si nchi.
That is simply put, sitaki kwenda deep sana kwani najuwa jinsi hauko focused. Halafu pitia post yangu hapo juu namba 37 nimeelezea hili hili kivingine kiduchu.
fuatilia tena sense ya watu wa Zanzibar ya mwaka 2012, nadhani milioni 6 ni mara 6 ya population ya watu wa Zanzibar.Mhh mil6 c kama wakazi Wa Zanzibar wote.hapa kweli kuna ulakini
Unajuwa hizi tafsiri za lugha huwa zinaleta mushkil mkubwa katika uelewa wa watu, ndiyo maana unaambiwa ukizijuwa lugha tofauti unapanuka sana kiufahamu kuliko mtu ajuae lugha moja. Kwa maana, kuna maneo katika lugha zingine huwezi kuyapata tafisiri yake kwa neno moja tu la lugha nyingine.
Mfano, sisi Taifa tunamaanisha nini? jaribu kufikiri.
Kwa lugha ya Kiyahudi ambayo ni lugha semitic kama ya Kiarabu, neno linalotumika ambalo sisi tunatafsiri kama Taifa ni "Goy" neno hilo linamaanisha "People" au "watu" tafsiri ambazo zinakaribiana na kutegemea na sentensi litakapotumika neno hilo, maana nyingine ya tafsiri kutokana na sentensi ya litakapotumika ni Nation au Taifa. Kumbuka Nation au Taifa halimaanishi nchi.
Wengi wetu, kutokana na lugha yetu, tumekuwa tukitafsiri Taifa kama Nchi lakini si hivyo, Taifa ni "watu" (people) na ndiyo maana hata sisi ni watu wa Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania (People Of The United Republic of Tanzania).
Nadhani mpaka hapo utakuwa umenielewa vizuri, ikiwa bado kuna sehemu hujaelwa, usisite kutaka ufafanuzi zaidi na ntajitahidi niwezavyo kuendelea kukufahamisha katika hili.
Mkuu inawezekana figure zikawa zimeongezwa lakini, Wayahudi ni kweli waliuliwa ndio maana hadi kwa sasa kuna makumbusho maeneo kama kule Sobibor...
Siyo mantiki, huo ndiyo ukweli. Ukisema Wayahudi wana taifa ni kama kusema Wakristo wana taifa lao, au Waislaam wana taifa lao au wapagani wana taifa lao.
Leo Tanzania wanasema Serikali haina dini, Jee ina maana sisi ni taifa la kipagani? La, mimi si mpagani, sijui wewe?
Hujui lolote iko ivi; wayahudi ni kizazi cha Yakobo (kwaiyo wote ni ndugu wa damu), tena dini yao moja (waliyopewa na nabiii Musa), tena ni taifa/nchi/dola yenye mipaka inayotambulika hata vitabu vya BC vinabainisha. Historia ya kuundwa kwa taifa lao haifanani na taifa lingine lolote duniani.ni kwamba uyahudi ni imani sio race,ama taifa.
wala hakuna kabila la kiyahudi
Ukiona figures za vifo vya watu kwa maelfu na mamilioni halafu zinaishia 000 ujuwe ni za kubuni.
Vatican?
Unajuwa hizi tafsiri za lugha huwa zinaleta mushkil mkubwa katika uelewa wa watu, ndiyo maana unaambiwa ukizijuwa lugha tofauti unapanuka sana kiufahamu kuliko mtu ajuae lugha moja. Kwa maana, kuna maneo katika lugha zingine huwezi kuyapata tafisiri yake kwa neno moja tu la lugha nyingine.
Mfano, sisi Taifa tunamaanisha nini? jaribu kufikiri.
Kwa lugha ya Kiyahudi ambayo ni lugha semitic kama ya Kiarabu, neno linalotumika ambalo sisi tunatafsiri kama Taifa ni "Goy" neno hilo linamaanisha "People" au "watu" tafsiri ambazo zinakaribiana na kutegemea na sentensi litakapotumika neno hilo, maana nyingine ya tafsiri kutokana na sentensi ya litakapotumika ni Nation au Taifa. Kumbuka Nation au Taifa halimaanishi nchi.
Wengi wetu, kutokana na lugha yetu, tumekuwa tukitafsiri Taifa kama Nchi lakini si hivyo, Taifa ni "watu" (people) na ndiyo maana hata sisi ni watu wa Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania (People Of The United Republic of Tanzania).
Nadhani mpaka hapo utakuwa umenielewa vizuri, ikiwa bado kuna sehemu hujaelwa, usisite kutaka ufafanuzi zaidi na ntajitahidi niwezavyo kuendelea kukufahamisha katika hili.
Hata hiyo ya Rwanda kuna thread niliona wanachambua ina walakini... idadi ile ya Watutsi ilikuwa ni sound... Tukirudi katika hiyo ya kuwasafirisha, Wayahudi hawakuwa kwenye eneo moja kama Watutsi, walikuwa sehemu mbalimbali yamkini walikuwa wanawakusanya wengi kwa pamoja halafu wanawaua sasa tofauti na hao wengine ambao kupatikana ilikuwa ni bwerere...There is no doubt kuwa hawa jamaa walikufa. Mzozo ni idadi na kuweko au kutokuwapo Gas Chambers. Uchunguzi umeshindwa kupata ushahidi kuwa kulikuwa na gas chambers. No traces of Cyanide. Hata hizo "chambers" zina nafasi kubwa kati ya mlango na sakafu kiasi kwamba hata nao Nazis wangekufa baada ya kuruhusu Gas kuingia.
In fact wapo wanaohoji kuwa kama unataka kufanya genocide of a particular people how comes uwasafirishe, uwalishe, uwafungulie concentration camps? Mfano Rwanda, wahutu hawakufungua such camps ilikuwa ni mapanga na risasi kwa kwenda mbele.
Pia hata Russians walikufa kwa wingi sana ila hawatajwi.
Mkuu kwa hiyo taifa la Israel origin yake ni wapi kabla ya kutawanyika duniani???
Sasa we kikongwe israeli kwa mara ya kwanza ilianza kukaliwa na watu gan?
Unaeleweka vizuri !!
Lakini naomba ufafanuzi hapo kwenye '' People of the United Republic of Tanzania'' mana nijuavyo mimi Nyerere na Katiba yake ya CCM 1977 na ile ya Samweli 6 hazikuweka neno people. Na hili walilifanya makusudi ili kuondoa utaifa na uzalendo wa wazawa na kuifanya Tanzania kuwa shamba la bibi. Kila mtu anaruhusiwa kuiona nchi ya Tanzania kama nchi yake na kuvuna anachotaka na kupeleka anakotaka.
Halafu si kuna watu wale Wayahudi walipona kwanini ushahidi unatafutwa hivyo kama ni kitu kilichotokea BC!? kuna watu hadi sasa hivi wanaishi wanashindwa vipi kutoa ushahidi!? Sasa hizo chambers zilizokuwepo kulikuwa kunafanyika shughuli gani!? Halafu ni kwanini Wayahudi wajengewe Makambi!?
[h=3]The story of Viktor Frankl, a famous Holocaust survivor[/h]Filed under: Dachau, Germany, Holocaust - Tags: gas chambers, prisoners who were not registered at Auschwitz, Viktor Frankl - furtherglory @ 12:26 pm
I was browsing through the CODOH website this morning when I came across some interesting information about Viktor Frankl, the famous Psychiatrist, who survived four Nazi camps, including the Auschwitz death camp and the infamous Dachau camp. There is an article in the CODOH library, entitled The Human Face of Holocaust Revisionism, written by Chris Crookes, which you can read in full here.
This quote is from the article by Chris Crookes:
…. I spent a few days lying out in the sun in the garden reading the biography of Viktor Frankl Trotzdem Ja zum Leben Sagen (Man's Search for Meaning). I realized I had never read an eye-witness account of the biggest crime of the last century and I was also interested in the subject of how we apply meaning to our experiences. So I had bought it online from Amazon.The important point, to take from this article, is that Viktor Frankl couldn't decide whether prisoners were gassed at Auschwitz or not, so how could the people in the nearby towns, such as Dachau, know that prisoners were being gassed. In recent years, the German people have been demonized for not helping the Jews, claiming that they didn't know what was going on in the camps.
In the first half of the book Frankl (who was a psychiatrist) wrote of his experiences in WW2 as a Jew in concentration labor camps. As I read it I noticed he kept jumping between two contradictory viewpoints, sometimes in the space of a few pages.
At some places he affirmed that all the Jews themselves knew that if they were going to Auschwitz, then they were destined for almost certain annihilation. And at other times he asserts that they didn't know. At some places he asserts that he and other people upon arrival knew that they were getting segregated into lines either for gassing or for work, and at others he maintains that the people didn't know what the segregation was for.
That was confusing.
At one point he states how he himself knew, as after being selected by Joseph Mengele "to the left for the gas chamber," he relates how he "switched behind Mengele's back" to the right.
Then there were other odd things. He says he got out of Auschwitz by volunteering as a doctor. He wrote that he left in a transportation of ill inmates taken to Bavaria in 1944. The thought occurred: "Jewish inmates were not being gassed then? They were instead being transported out for medical care elsewhere?" That was a bit surprising.
Then he wrote how in Bavaria he worked as a doctor treating ill inmates in a hospital camp in the typhus ward near Dachau. I thought: "Er… They were taking care of them? In 1944? Jews with Typhoid? Trying to cure them?"
THEN after finishing the book I discovered that despite him giving the impression that he had been at Auschwitz at the very least for many months, that he had in fact only been there for 3 or 4 days. It was then that my curiosity was piqued and my research into this started. And it was then that I was reminded of the Colonel's wife (who had been a young girl at the time of these events) claiming that nobody knew what was going on in the camps.
So it was that I started to re-evaluate all this. How was she-and the other town residents-supposed to know about that, if a camp inmate at Auschwitz couldn't make up his mind whether he himself knew or not?
I previously blogged about the people in the town of Dachau here and here. I blogged about how the people in the town of Dachau were punished for not helping the Jews here.
But to get back to Viktor Frankl, here is the short version of his experience in the Nazi camps: He was first sent to the Theresienstadt Ghetto, which was the camp for the prominent Jews. From there, he was sent to Auschwitz-Birkenau. Holocaust experts will tell you that the only reason that Jews were sent, from Theresienstadt to Auschwitz, was to kill them. But after only three or four days at Auschwitz-Birkenau, he was sent to the Dachau main camp. From there, he was sent to the Kaufering III sub-camp where he worked as a doctor, treating prisoners who had typhus.
Frankl was not registered at Auschwitz-Birkenau, which according to the Holocaust experts, means that he was gassed. Then he was sent to the Dachau main camp, where he was again not registered before being sent on to the Kaufering III sub-camp.
According to Wikipedia: "In March 1945, he was offered to be moved to the so called rest-camp Türkheim, also affiliated with Dachau. He decided to go to Türkheim, where he worked as a doctor until 27 April 1945, when Frankl was liberated by the Americans."
The estimates, made by Holocaust experts, of how many prisoners were gassed at Auschwitz-Birkenau are based on the number of prisoners that were not registered.
This quote is from an article on the IHR website:
Was Holocaust Survivor Viktor Frankl Gassed at Auschwitz.
Few men who emerged from the camps can match the late Viktor Frankl for acclaim. A psychiatrist from Vienna who died in 1997, Frankl gained international renown for the theories of mental health he expounded through his psychiatric school, logotherapy. Inextricably bound up with Frankl's fame, teachings, and moral authority was his experience of the German concentration camps, above all Auschwitz, as described in Man's Search for Meaning (U.S., 1959) a worldwide bestseller that has been ranked as one of the ten most influential books of the twentieth century by the Library of Congress.
In his reminiscence, Frankl recounted his stay at Auschwitz as if it had lasted an eternity. Now comes Timothy Pytell, adjunct professor of history at the Cooper Union in New York City, to inform us that, based on his research for an intellectual biography of Frankl, the celebrated survivor spent at most three days at Auschwitz, while in transit from Theresienstadt in Bohemia to a subcamp of Dachau in October 1944. As Pytell observes, a reader of Man's Search for Meaning would "be stunned to discover that Frankl spent only a few days in Auschwitz." In the book, Frankl devotes some thirty pages to Auschwitz. Besides recording his experiences on arrival (shaving, showering, delousing, etc.), Frankl makes observations about the lot of inmates there that strongly imply that, at the very least, he spent months, not days, at the camp. ("We had to wear the same shirts for half a year, until they had lost all appearance of being shirts.") As Pytell writes of Frankl's depiction of his stay at Auschwitz: "But if truth be told, Frankl's rendition is contradictory and profoundly deceptive."
Pytell notes that Frankl was transferred from Theresienstadt on October 19, 1944, on a train that carried 1500 persons to Auschwitz, and that the prisoner's log of the Dachau sub-camp Kaufering III records Frankl's arrival on October 25, 1944. Indeed, Frankl himself told the American evangelist Robert Schuller, in an interview published in Schuller's magazine Possibilities (March-April 1991): "I was in Auschwitz only three or four days … I was sent to a barrack and we were all transported to a camp in Bavaria." Thus the credibility of yet another star survivor has been tested and found wanting. Like the testimony of Miklos Nyiszli, Filip Müller, Rudolf Vrba, Mel Mermelstein, and a host of other eyewitness oracles, Viktor Frankl's Auschwitz stories are now an embarrassment to the Holocaust industry, rather than an indictment of the Germans.
There's more, however. While Pytell wasn't up to examining the implications of Frankl's stay at Auschwitz for the reliability of the camp's official history, records compiled by exterminationist researcher of Theresienstadt H. G. Adler and by the Auschwitz State Museum make clear that if Frankl arrived at Auschwitz on October 20, 1944, he must have left Theresienstadt on a train with 1,500 passengers, designated "Es." The English-language edition of the supposedly authoritative Auschwitz Chronicle, 1939-45 (editor Danuta Czech, London: I.B.Tauris, 1990), based on material from the Auschwitz State Museum, reports of that train:
October 20
1,500 Jewish men, women, and children are sent in an RSHA transport from the ghetto in Theresienstadt. After the selection, 169 women are admitted to the transit camp and 173 men as prisoners to the camp. The men receive Nos. B-13307-B-13479. The remaining 1,158 people are killed in the gas chamber of Crematorium III.
Now, while Viktor Frankl reports at length in his chatty memoir about his reception at Auschwitz (including the obligatory brush with Dr. Mengele), he says not a word about being registered, assigned a number, tattooed with that number, or transferred to the Auschwitz Stammlager, the permanent camp). Thus one can conclude that he was not admitted as a prisoner to the camp. And the Chronicle's entry speaks of no surviving, non-registered persons from that shipment. Ergo, according to the Auschwitz Chronicle, and the records on which it claims to be based, Viktor Frankl must have beem gassed nearly fifty-three years before his widely announced death in September 1997. Who was it, then, who was sent out of Auschwitz a few days later, and went on to write all those books?
Ngojea niipitie mkuu...Mkuu ni kwamba matumizi ya sentesi Wayahudi Million 6 (wateswa, wauwawa, wadhalilishwa nk) yalitumika miaka mingi hata kabla ya vita ya pili ya dunia
Six Million - 140 Occurrences Of The Word Holocaust And The Number 6,000,000 Before The Nuremberg Trials Began
kisha kuna ushahidi wa kutosha kuwa wapo wayahudi (survirors) ambao account zao za kilichojiri kwenye makambi husika zimethibitishwa ni za kugushi
source: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/...of-viktor-frankl-a-famous-holocaust-survivor/
Mkuu inaelekea hata ile paper ya Mark Weber (nimeiweka in another posting) hukuisoma, vinginevyo ungekuta majibu ya maswali uliyoniuliza
Siyo mantiki, huo ndiyo ukweli. Ukisema Wayahudi wana taifa ni kama kusema Wakristo wana taifa lao, au Waislaam wana taifa lao au wapagani wana taifa lao.
Leo Tanzania wanasema Serikali haina dini, Jee ina maana sisi ni taifa la kipagani? La, mimi si mpagani, sijui wewe?
[SIZE=+4]Auschwitz Museum Director
Reveals 'Gas Chamber' Hoax[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]
By P. Samuel Foner
The Spotlight
Volume XIX, Number 2
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[TD="width: 100%"][SIZE=+1]In a dramatic and unprecedented videotaped interview, Dr. Franciszek Piper, senior curator and director of archives of the Auschwitz State Museum admitted on camera that 'Krema 1,' the alleged 'homicidal gas chamber' shown off to hundreds of thousands of tourists every year at the Auschwitz main camp, was, in fact, fabricated after the war by the Soviet Union -apparently on the direct orders of Josef Stalin.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]What Piper said - in effect and on camera - was that the explosive 1988 Leuchter Report was correct: no homicidal gassings took place in the buildings designated as 'homicidal gas chambers' at Auschwitz.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]With this admission by none other than the respected head of the Auschwitz State Museum, one of the most sacred 'facts' of history has been destroyed.
This 'gas chamber' is the major historical 'fact' on which much of the foreign and domestic policies of all Western nations since WWII are based.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]It is the basis for the $100+ billion in foreign aid the United States has poured into the state of Israel since its inception in 1948 - amounting to $16,500 for every man, woman and child in the Jewish state and billions more paid by Germany in 'reparations' - not to mention the constructing of Israel's national telephone, electrical and rail systems...all gifts of the German people. It is the basis for the $10 billion 'loan' (read 'gift') made to Israel for housing its immigrants in the occupied territories...while Americans sleep on the streets and businesses are bankrupted by the thousands. (Note - As of 2004, not a single 'loan' of US tax money made to the state of Israel by Washington has ever been paid back. -ed)[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Germany is paying 'reparations' - the the United States is making major contributions - to atone for the 'gassings at Auschwitz' and elsewhere.
If the 'homicidal gas chambers' were postwar creations of the Soviets, in which no one was gassed regardless of race, creed, color or country of national origin, then these 'reparations' were unnecessary, and were based on fraud.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]The videotape on which Dr. Piper makes his revelations was made in mid-1992 by a young Jewish investigator, David Cole and follows 12 years of intensive investigation by dozens of historians, journalists and scientists who have tried to get to the bottom of what really happened at Auschwitz.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Like most Americans, since his youth, Cole had been instructed in the 'irrefutable fact' that mass homicidal gassings had taken place at Auschwitz. The number of those executed - also declared irrefutable - was 4.1 million.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Then came the Leuchter Report in 1988 which was followed with an official 're-evaluation' of the total deaths at Auschwitz (down to 1.1 million).
As a budding historian - and a Jew - Cole was intrigued.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Previous to 1992, anyone who publicly doubted or questioned the official 4.1 millon 'gassing' deaths at Auschwitz was labeled an anti-semite, neo-nazi skinhead at the very least. Quietly, because of revisionist findings, the official figure was lowered to 1.1 million.
No mention was made of the missing 3 million.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]The Cole videotape interview proves that the people who run the Auschwitz State Museum had made a practice of fabricating 'proofs' of homicidal gassings. Keep in mind that over the years millions of tourists have been told that 'Krema 1' is in its original state, while officials knew that 'original state' is a ie.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]The political, religious, fiancial and historical ramifications of this proof of no homicidal gas chambers at Auschwitz cannot be measured.
Coupled with the Leuchter Report, the Cole interview with Dr. Piper on videotape proves that what Western governments have taught about the Auschwitz gas chamber since WWII is a lie. It proves that what televangelists such as Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson have been telling their flocks is simply not true.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]No one, regardless of race, creed, color or country of national origin was gassed to death in any building so designated at Auschwitz. And without 'homicidal gas chambers' at Auschwitz, where is the reasoning for the special treatment of the state of Israel?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Note - This is excerpted from the orginal, much longer article by P. Samuel Foner.
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Wayahudi si taifa ni kama vile kusema Wakristo au Waislam au Mabuddha au Wapagani.
Wametapakaa sehemu mbali mbali ulimwenguni, kwingine wako wengi, kwingine wako kidogo, kwingine hawapo kabisa.