Nisaidieni kuwaelewa Wakenya!

[logania]

Either you don't get the point or you force not to get the point, the issue is not to understand many language but is the government to use its national language, as one of the contributors says, even in USA, they understand many languages over there, but the national language of USA is english and the government of USA uses english in all activities, doesn't mean that they only understand english.

Going to break it down for you..

Kiswahili is the national language in Kenya and English the official language...That means they can be used interchangeably...What’s wrong with that..?Like I said earlier different countries and people do things differently...Deal with it man..

I agree with you in some of your posts...Both countries have different set of third world problems..They deal with their problems differently..Language and the use of it is the least of our problems.I notice however sometimes you argue for the sake of it or you have to have the last word..I have put you on IGNORE now...I decided to stop going back and forth with you ...because your arguments and ramblings don’t make sense..Now, as is your fashion, go on right ahead and write a book on the issue and publish it here...I will not see it nor do I care..Quite frankly don’t care for your non factual,keyboard warriorship,aggressive and lacking in content style...

I agree with my people on some issues but also agree with Kenyans on some issues..This rivalry between the two countries is sometimes ridiculous...We are all East Africans can’t we just get along?

 

[joto la jiwe]

Going to break it down for you..

Kiswahili is the national language in Kenya and English the official language...That means they can be used interchangeably...What’s wrong with that..?Like I said earlier different countries and people do things differently...Deal with it man..

I agree with you in some of your posts...Both countries have different set of third world problems..They deal with their problems differently..Language and the use of it is the least of our problems.I notice however sometimes you argue for the sake of it or you have to have the last word..I have put you on Ignore now...I decided to stop going back and forth with you ...because your arguments don’t make sense..Now, as is your fashion, go on ahead right a book on the issue and publish it here...I will not see it.

I agree with my people on some issues but also agree with Kenyans on some issues..This rivalry between the two countries is sometimes ridiculous...We are all East Africans can’t we just get along?

What is the purpose of JF, is it to bring people together or to give space for every one to air opinions endlessly, this is not place for reconciliation rather than debating and some time you may even play a devil advocate position, what I can see from your side is very low standard of thinking, and very dwarf level of understanding issues..all the best.

 

[mwaswast]

Unajua lugha tatu kiswahili kikiwemo? Sababu hapo tu umeandika broken Swahili

Wakenya tukianza kusahisha kiswahili chenu kichafu mnachokiandika hapa jukwaani hamtachangia sababu everytime you are speaking broken and awkward

Hata kiswahili cha wakongo, rwanda na Uganda ni Tofauti lakini bora tunaelewana sioni shida hapo. Wewe ni ugomvi tuuu unatafuta...your inferiority complex pelekaaa hukooo bongolala, hapa Mimi kama Mkenya nitazungumza hata sheng' na hakuna kubwa utakalofanya.

 

[REDEEMER.]

Hukujua hilo, unafikiria Kiswahili ni Kisukuma, fahamu kwamba hata jina Swahili linatokana na neno la Kiarabu 'sawahil', kafanye utafiti.

Kwa hiyo sababu kwenye kiswahili kuna maneno begi, baiskeli, penseli, papai, tisheti, koti, tochi, blangeti, taulo, swichi, soda, bia, ovakado, sayansi n.k kiswahili kitakua kiingereza?? Kuna 20% ya maneno ya kiswahili yanatokana na kiarabu lakini zaidi ya 75% yanatokana na lugha za kibantu Punguza ujinga.

Basi English ni French or Latin sababu at least 29% (percent) of the words in English come from French. 29% come from Latin.

 

[REDEEMER.]

Hata kiswahili cha wakongo, rwanda na Uganda ni Tofauti lakini bora tunaelewana sioni shida hapo. Wewe ni ugomvi tuuu unatafuta...your inferiority complex pelekaaa hukooo bongolala, hapa Mimi kama Mkenya nitazungumza hata sheng' na hakuna kubwa utakalofanya.

Tena hata bora mnavyoandika, mkiongea ndio kichefuchefu kabisa sio kiswahili sio English you are the best in tribal

 

[mwaswast]

Tena hata bora mnavyoandika, mkiongea ndio kichefuchefu kabisa sio kiswahili sio English you are the best in tribal

Kumbe ni povu inakutoka.

 

[MK254]

Kwa hiyo sababu kwenye kiswahili kuna maneno begi, baiskeli, penseli, papai, tisheti, koti, tochi, blangeti, taulo, swichi, soda, bia, ovakado, sayansi n.k kiswahili kitakua kiingereza?? Kuna 20% ya maneno ya kiswahili yanatokana na kiarabu lakini zaidi ya 75% yanatokana na lugha za kibantu Punguza ujinga.

Basi English ni French or Latin sababu at least 29% (percent) of the words in English come from French. 29% come from Latin.

Asilimia kubwa ni kiarabu, kama Waarabu hawangekuja kubaka Waafrika hakingebuniwa.
Tatizo mliiga hadi uzembe wa Waarabu na Uswahili mwingi.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Hata kiswahili cha wakongo, rwanda na Uganda ni Tofauti lakini bora tunaelewana sioni shida hapo. Wewe ni ugomvi tuuu unatafuta...your inferiority complex pelekaaa hukooo bongolala, hapa Mimi kama Mkenya nitazungumza hata sheng' na hakuna kubwa utakalofanya.

Kwenye kiswahili unadhani ni sawa kuzungumza vyovyote vile bora tu ujumbe ufike, lakini kwenye kiingereza kwa sababu ni lugha ya mabwana zenu wanaowatekenya huko nyuma, mtu akikosea au kushindwa kuzungumza kwa ufasaha, ninyi watumwa wao mnakuja juu na kumcheka...kaka zenu walio olewa huko Marekani vipi bado hawajabeba mimba?..watumwa wakubwa ninyi..stupid people, stupid nation..

Kwa hiyo sababu kwenye kiswahili kuna maneno begi, baiskeli, penseli, papai, tisheti, koti, tochi, blangeti, taulo, swichi, soda, bia, ovakado, sayansi n.k kiswahili kitakua kiingereza?? Kuna 20% ya maneno ya kiswahili yanatokana na kiarabu lakini zaidi ya 75% yanatokana na lugha za kibantu Punguza ujinga.

Basi English ni French or Latin sababu at least 29% (percent) of the words in English come from French. 29% come from Latin.

 

[REDEEMER.]

Asilimia kubwa ni kiarabu, kama Waarabu hawangekuja kubaka Waafrika hakingebuniwa.
Tatizo mliiga hadi uzembe wa Waarabu na Uswahili mwingi.

Hahaha nakucheka kwa dharau sababu hujui unaloliongea kiswahili kimekua Afrika Mashariki kabla ya kuja kwa waarabu tokea enzi za biashara ya kikanda ya batta trade kutokea Congo mpaka Msumbiji kwa kupitia Tanzania, Zambia, Malawi, Rwanda na Burundi ndio mana wao wanajua kiswahili kuwazidi hata wakenya hasa Congo ushahidi ni kwamba asilimia kubwa ya maneno ya kiswahili ni kutoka lugha ya makabila ya Congo.

Mpaka kuna maneno ya kabila la Igbo kutoka Nigeria mfano neno "wema" hata Igbo wanalo likimaanisha "goodness " na mengine mengi waarabu walikuja kuikuza tu sababu ya biashara na baadhi ya terminologies and vocabularies ambazo awali hazikuwamo kwenye kiswahili kama ilivyo English na maneno yake kwenye kiswahili.

Hata Kireno kipo kwenye kiswahili maneno" meza" "lesso" ni maneno ya Kireno Kijerumani nacho kipo kwenye kiswahili mfano "shule" "hela" na lugha nyingine nyingi

Hivyo hiyo hoja yako kiswahili ni kiarabu ni kutokua tu na elimu ya lugha na namna ya language growth and expansion and the concept of words assimilation in the language hivyo pole.

 

[REDEEMER.]

Kumbe ni povu inakutoka.

Sio "inakutoka" ni "linakutoka" go back to school

 

[mwaswast]

Sio "inakutoka" ni "linakutoka" go back to school

Siweze rudi shule nikasome lugha ya mwarabu.

 

[REDEEMER.]

Siweze rudi shule nikasome lugha ya mwarabu.

Hahaha waarabu wenyewe wanakisoma kiswahili kama wewe unavyosoma lugha ya malkia lakini mnavyojishebedua nayo utafikiri hata wanawafahamu they count you as monkeys.

 

[MK254]

Hahaha nakucheka kwa dharau sababu hujui unaloliongea kiswahili kimekua Afrika Mashariki kabla ya kuja kwa waarabu tokea enzi za biashara ya kikanda ya batta trade kutokea Congo mpaka Msumbiji kwa kupitia Tanzania, Zambia, Malawi, Rwanda na Burundi ndio mana wao wanajua kiswahili kuwazidi hata wakenya hasa Congo ushahidi ni kwamba asilimia kubwa ya maneno ya kiswahili ni kutoka lugha ya makabila ya Congo.

Mpaka kuna maneno ya kabila la Igbo kutoka Nigeria mfano neno "wema" hata Igbo wanalo likimaanisha "goodness " na mengine mengi waarabu walikuja kuikuza tu sababu ya biashara na baadhi ya terminologies and vocabularies ambazo awali hazikuwamo kwenye kiswahili kama ilivyo English na maneno yake kwenye kiswahili.

Hata Kireno kipo kwenye kiswahili maneno" meza" "lesso" ni maneno ya Kireno Kijerumani nacho kipo kwenye kiswahili mfano "shule" "hela" na lugha nyingine nyingi

Hivyo hiyo hoja yako kiswahili ni kiarabu ni kutokua tu na elimu ya lugha na namna ya language growth and expansion and the concept of words assimilation in the language hivyo pole.

Wewe ndiye unachekesha eti kilitumika na Wakongo kabla ya ujio wa Waarabu, nenda kafanye utafiti upya.
Ukweli ni kwamba Waarabu walikuja na kuwabaka Waafrika wa jamii ya Wangozi na kuanza kubuni Kiswahili kwa kutumia maneno yao ya Kiarabu na maneno ya Kingozi, baada ya hapo kikakua kwa kukopa maneno kutoka kwa lugha nyingi zikiwemo Kireno na hata Kingererza.

Sasa Msukuma au Mnyakyusa unatelekeza lugha yako ya asili unang'ang'ania Kiswahili kusudi usiitwe mshamba....

 

[mwaswast]

Hahaha waarabu wenyewe wanakisoma kiswahili kama wewe unavyosoma lugha ya malkia lakini mnavyojishebedua nayo utafikiri hata wanawafahamu they count you as monkeys.

Not us but you as monkeys, sisi hapa tunazijua na kujivunia lugha zetu za mama hata tunafunzwa shuleni from nursery school up to class 3.

 

[REDEEMER.]

Wewe ndiye unachekesha eti kilitumika na Wakongo kabla ya ujio wa Waarabu, nenda kafanye utafiti upya.
Ukweli ni kwamba Waarabu walikuja na kuwabaka Waafrika wa jamii ya Wangozi na kuanza kubuni Kiswahili kwa kutumia maneno yao ya Kiarabu na maneno ya Kingozi, baada ya hapo kikakua kwa kukopa maneno kutoka kwa lugha nyingi zikiwemo Kireno na hata Kingererza.

Sasa Msukuma au Mnyakyusa unatelekeza lugha yako ya asili unang'ang'ania Kiswahili kusudi usiitwe mshamba....

Katika hayo maneno yote uliyoyaandika hapo nitajie maneno angalau matano tu ya kiarabu

 

[REDEEMER.]

Not us but you as monkeys, sisi hapa tunazijua na kujivunia lugha zetu za mama hata tunafunzwa shuleni from nursery school up to class 3.

Kwani kuna asiye na lugha ya mama? Tanzania tuna zaidi ya makabila 120 ulitaka kila kabila liwe na curriculum yake kwa teaching and learning medium yake you are thinking like a monkey.

 

[kidambinya]

Hawana lugha maalum... Makanjanja

 

[MK254]

Katika hayo maneno yote uliyoyaandika hapo nitajie maneno angalau matano tu ya kiarabu

Subiri nikipata nafasi nitatafuta tafsiri ya haya yote, nakupa mchache ya haraka tu
kabla - qabl
lugha - lugha
asili - al'asl

 

[Emc2]

Not us but you as monkeys, sisi hapa tunazijua na kujivunia lugha zetu za mama hata tunafunzwa shuleni from nursery school up to class 3.

Makabila yaliyopo Tanzania

1. Alagwa
2. Akiek
3. Akie Northern Tanzania
4. Arusha
5. Assa
6. Barabaig
7. Balouch Coastal Tanzania
8. Bembe
9. Bena
10. Bende
11. Bondei
12. Bungu
13. Burunge
14. Chaga
15. Datooga
16. Dhaiso
17. Digo
18. Doe
19. Fipa
20. Gogo
21. Goa Coastal Tanzania
22. Goma people
23. Gorowa
24. Gujirati Coastal Tanzania
25. Gweno
26. Ha
27. Hutu Western Tanzania Kagera
28. Hadza
29. Hangaza
30. Haya
31. Hehe
32. Holoholo people
33. Ikizu
34. Ikoma
35. Iraqw
36. Isanzu
37. Jiji
38. Jita
39. Kabwa
40. Kagura
41. Kaguru
42. Kahe
43. Kami
44. Kamba Northern Tanzania
45. Kara (also called Regi)
46. Kerewe
47. Kikuyu
48. Kimbu
49. Kinga
50. Kisankasa
51. Kisi
52. Konongo
53. Kuria
54. Kutu
55. Kw'adza
56. Kwavi
57. Kwaya
58. Kwere
59. Kwifa
60. Lambya
61. Luguru
62. Luo
63. Maasai
64. Machinga
65. Magoma
66. Mahanji
67. Mbulu (in Arusha)
68. Makonde
69. Makua
70. Makwe
71. Malila
72. Mambwe
73. Manyema
74. Manda
75. Mahara
76. Mediak
77. Matengo
78. Matumbi
79. Maviha
80. Mbugwe
81. Mbunga
82. Mbugu
83. Meru (Wameru of the slopes of Mt. Meru in Arumeru District)
84. Mosiro
85. Mpoto
86. Msur Zanzibar
87. Mwanga
88. Mwera
89. Ndali
90. Ndamba
91. Ndendeule
92. Ndengereko
93. Ndonde
94. Nyanja people Southern Tanzania
95. Ngas Northern Tanzania
96. Ngasa
97. Ngindo
98. Ngoni
99. Ngulu
100. Ngazija (Zanzibar island)
101. Ngurimi
102. Ngwele
103. Nilamba
104. Nindi
105. Nyakyusa
106. Nyasa people in Mbeya
107. Nyambo
108. Nyamwanga
109. Nyamwezi
110. Nyanyembe
111. Nyaturu
112. Nyiha
113. Nyiramba
114. Omotik
115. Okiek people
116. Pangwa
117. Pare
118. Pimbwe
119. Pogolo
120. Rangi
121. Rufiji
122. Rungi
123. Rungu
124. Rungwa
125. Rwa
126. Safwa
127. Sagara
128. Sandawe
129. Sangu
130. Segeju
131. Swengwear
132. Shambaa
133. Shirazi
134. Shubi
135. Sizaki
136. Suba
137. Sukuma
138. Sumbwa
139. Sungu Tanga
140. Temi
141. Tongwe
142. Twa Western Tanzania
143. Tutsi Western Tanzania
144. Tumbuka
145. Vidunda
146. Vinza
147. Wanda
148. Washihiri Zanzibar
149. Wamanga Zanzibar and Mafia island
150. Wanji
151. Wangarenaro Arusha
152. Ware
153. Yaaku people Northern Tanzania
154. Yao
155. Zanaki
156. Zaramo
157. Zigula
158. Zinza
159. Zyoba
160. Zulu people Southern Tanzania

 

[pingli-nywee]

Watz bana huwa mnatuponda sisi wakenya sana kwa kupenda kuongea lugha zetu za asili. Sasa tukiongeza kiswahili au hata kiingereza bado mnanung'unika tangazeni msimamo basi.