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Don't you know Koran inasema Yesu yupo Mbinguni, hivi huwa unaielewa Koran yenu iliyo jaa shaka weye, au ni wale wale wafuata Mkumbo mnao karirishwa ayats kwa bakora. Pathetic allahic religion.
Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, according to scientific studies
Religious people are less intelligent than atheists, according to scientific studies
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Don't you know Koran inasema Yesu yupo Mbinguni, hivi huwa unaielewa Koran yenu iliyo jaa shaka weye, au ni wale wale wafuata Mkumbo mnao karirishwa ayats kwa bakora. Pathetic allahic religion.
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Muslim Women Are Sex Object For Men's Enjoyment
From Quran:
Sura (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will." Wives are to be sexually available to their husbands in all ways at all times. They serve their husbands at his command. This verse refers to anal sex (see Bukhari 60:51), and was "revealed" when women complained to Muhammad about the practice. The phrase "when and how you will" means that they lost their case. Islam considers a wife to be a sex object who must submit to sex whenever, wherever and however her husband wants it. The concept of spousal rape does not exist in Islam. Muslim women are the property of Muslim men.
From Hadith: Bukhari (60:51)
Narrated Jabir: Jews used to say: "If one has sexual intercourse with his wife from the back, then she will deliver a squint-eyed child." So this Verse was revealed:-- "Your wives are a tilth unto you; so go to your tilth when or how you will." (2.223)
Muhammad said: "If a husband calls his wife to his bed [i.e. to have sexual relation] and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning." -- Bukhari 4.54.460
"By him in Whose Hand lies my life, a woman cannot carry out the right of her Lord, till she carries out the right of her husband. And if he asks her to surrender herself [to him for sexual intercourse] she should not refuse him even if she is on a camel's saddle." -- Ibn Majah 1854
Bukhari (62:81)
Narrated 'Uqba: The Prophet said: "The stipulations most entitled to be abided by are those with which you are given the right to enjoy the (women's) private parts (i.e. the stipulations of the marriage contract)."
Bukhari 7:62:132
Narrated 'Abdullah bin Zam'a:
The Prophet said, "None of you should flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her in the last part of the day." (Ideally when you flog one of your wives, let her recuperate that day and sleep with your other wives or your slave girls.)
From Quran:
Sura (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will." Wives are to be sexually available to their husbands in all ways at all times. They serve their husbands at his command. This verse refers to anal sex (see Bukhari 60:51), and was "revealed" when women complained to Muhammad about the practice. The phrase "when and how you will" means that they lost their case. Islam considers a wife to be a sex object who must submit to sex whenever, wherever and however her husband wants it. The concept of spousal rape does not exist in Islam. Muslim women are the property of Muslim men.
From Hadith: Bukhari (60:51)
Narrated Jabir: Jews used to say: "If one has sexual intercourse with his wife from the back, then she will deliver a squint-eyed child." So this Verse was revealed:-- "Your wives are a tilth unto you; so go to your tilth when or how you will." (2.223)
Muhammad said: "If a husband calls his wife to his bed [i.e. to have sexual relation] and she refuses and causes him to sleep in anger, the angels will curse her till morning." -- Bukhari 4.54.460
"By him in Whose Hand lies my life, a woman cannot carry out the right of her Lord, till she carries out the right of her husband. And if he asks her to surrender herself [to him for sexual intercourse] she should not refuse him even if she is on a camel's saddle." -- Ibn Majah 1854
Bukhari (62:81)
Narrated 'Uqba: The Prophet said: "The stipulations most entitled to be abided by are those with which you are given the right to enjoy the (women's) private parts (i.e. the stipulations of the marriage contract)."
Bukhari 7:62:132
Narrated 'Abdullah bin Zam'a:
The Prophet said, "None of you should flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her in the last part of the day." (Ideally when you flog one of your wives, let her recuperate that day and sleep with your other wives or your slave girls.)
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Welcome to Allahic Paradise:
Also narrated by Abdallah Ibn Al-Mubarak, narrated by Al-Hassan Al-Basri who said, "A man said to his brother Have you been told that you shall enter hell? The brother answered YES. He then asked, Have you also been told that you shall exit from it? The brother responded NO. So he asked, Then why the laughter?The brother responded, I have not seen a person laugh until he joined Allah.
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Ukristo si DINI. Sisi hatuitaji dini, kama nyie mnao fuata dini na kukatana vichwa huko Syria, Araq, Iran, Porkistan, et al. Wewe unafuata Allah asiye kuwa na uwezo wa kusema wala sikia, hivi zipo sawa weye muhammadan?
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Qur'an Contradiction:
Six or eight days of creation?Sura 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59 clearly say that God created "the heavens and the earth" in six days. But then there is also the following passage:
2 Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in TWO Days
And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.
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He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it,
and bestowed blessings on the earth, and measured therein all things
4 to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR Days
in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek (Sustenance).
Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky,
and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth:
"Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly."
They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience."
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2 So He completed them as seven firmaments in TWO Days,
and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command.
And We adorned the lower heaven with lights,
and (provided it) with guard.
Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might, Full of Knowledge.
-- Sura 41:9-12 (Yusuf Ali)
= 8 altogether these are EIGHT Days.
Two days for the creation of the earth, then four days to fill the earth with mountains, blessings and nourishment for all its inhabitants, and in the end two more days to create the seven heavens and create the stars in them. This adds up to 2+4+2 = 8 days in contradiction to the 6 days mentioned in the other verses.
The structure is very clear: These are the three "layers" which are created bottom up:
*** FIRMAMENTS [the sky, the "roof" over the earth] in 2 days
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🙂 BLESSINGS [filling the earth with everything needed for life] in 4 days
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=== The EARTH [the foundation] completed in 2 days
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Brutal Punishment For Muslim Women
Sura 4:15 - Lewd women should be punished with life imprisonment until death: "If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or God ordain for them some (other) way."
But men can get away with the same crime if they simply repent:
"If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for God is Oft-returning, Most Merciful." (Quran 4:16)
Sura 4:15 - Lewd women should be punished with life imprisonment until death: "If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, Take the evidence of four (Reliable) witnesses from amongst you against them; and if they testify, confine them to houses until death do claim them, or God ordain for them some (other) way."
But men can get away with the same crime if they simply repent:
"If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, Leave them alone; for God is Oft-returning, Most Merciful." (Quran 4:16)
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Fewer Seats for Muslim Women in Allah's Paradise
Islamic Scriptures inform us that most Muslim women will go to hell.
The Quran:
Sura (37:22-23) "Those who "did wrong" will go to hell, and their wives will go to hell with them (no matter how they behaved)."
From Hadith: Bukhari (2:28) - Women comprise the majority of Hell's occupants. This is important because the only women in heaven ever mentioned by Muhammad are the virgins who serve the sexual desires of men. (A weak Hadith, Kanz al-`ummal, 22:10, even suggests that 99% of women go to Hell).
"Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said:
"I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women ....." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you."
"Among the inmates of Heaven women will be the minority" (Sahih Muslim 36: 6600)
"I (Mohammed) have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-Fire were women...[because] they are ungrateful to their husbands and they are deficient in intelligence" (Sahih Bukhari: 2:18:161; 7:62:125, ).
Ishaq: 185 " In hell I saw women hanging by their breasts. They had fathered bastards."
Narrated 'Abdullah bin Abbas:
.The Prophet replied, "I saw Paradise and stretched my hands towards a bunch (of its fruits) and had I taken it, you would have eaten from it as long as the world remains. I also saw the Hell-fire and I had never seen such a horrible sight. I saw that most of the inhabitants were women." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! Why is it so?" The Prophet replied, "Because of their ungratefulness." It was asked whether they are ungrateful to Allah. The Prophet said, "They are ungrateful to their companions of life (husbands) and ungrateful to good deeds. If you are benevolent to one of them throughout the life and if she sees anything (undesirable) in you, she will say, 'I have never had any good from you.'
Islamic Scriptures inform us that most Muslim women will go to hell.
The Quran:
Sura (37:22-23) "Those who "did wrong" will go to hell, and their wives will go to hell with them (no matter how they behaved)."
From Hadith: Bukhari (2:28) - Women comprise the majority of Hell's occupants. This is important because the only women in heaven ever mentioned by Muhammad are the virgins who serve the sexual desires of men. (A weak Hadith, Kanz al-`ummal, 22:10, even suggests that 99% of women go to Hell).
"Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said:
"I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women ....." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you."
"Among the inmates of Heaven women will be the minority" (Sahih Muslim 36: 6600)
"I (Mohammed) have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-Fire were women...[because] they are ungrateful to their husbands and they are deficient in intelligence" (Sahih Bukhari: 2:18:161; 7:62:125, ).
Ishaq: 185 " In hell I saw women hanging by their breasts. They had fathered bastards."
Narrated 'Abdullah bin Abbas:
.The Prophet replied, "I saw Paradise and stretched my hands towards a bunch (of its fruits) and had I taken it, you would have eaten from it as long as the world remains. I also saw the Hell-fire and I had never seen such a horrible sight. I saw that most of the inhabitants were women." The people asked, "O Allah's Apostle! Why is it so?" The Prophet replied, "Because of their ungratefulness." It was asked whether they are ungrateful to Allah. The Prophet said, "They are ungrateful to their companions of life (husbands) and ungrateful to good deeds. If you are benevolent to one of them throughout the life and if she sees anything (undesirable) in you, she will say, 'I have never had any good from you.'
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Muslim Wife Beating
The Quran:
Sura (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."
A husband has the legal right and religious obligation to beat a wife if she disobeys him, is disloyal to him or simply does not please him. The concept of wife abuse does not exist in Islam. According to Islamic law, a husband may strike his wife for any one of the following four reasons:
· She does not attempt to make herself beautiful for him (i.e. "let's herself go")
· She refuses to meet his sexual demands
· She leaves the house without his permission or a "legitimate reason"
· She neglects her religious duties
Any of these are also sufficient grounds for divorce.
The Quran:
Sura (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."
A husband has the legal right and religious obligation to beat a wife if she disobeys him, is disloyal to him or simply does not please him. The concept of wife abuse does not exist in Islam. According to Islamic law, a husband may strike his wife for any one of the following four reasons:
· She does not attempt to make herself beautiful for him (i.e. "let's herself go")
· She refuses to meet his sexual demands
· She leaves the house without his permission or a "legitimate reason"
· She neglects her religious duties
Any of these are also sufficient grounds for divorce.
Okay haina tabu tunakubaliana
Hapa naona umejikita zaidi kwenye matatizo ya Biblia ambalo ni suala jingine linaloweza kuwa na mjadala wake pekee. Hebu toa sababu kwa nini hakuna Mungu, maana ili Mungu awepo sio lazima biblia iwe sahihi. Au kwa maneno mengine wewe haumkubali Mungu au haumkubali Mungu wa biblia?
Halafu nani aliyekwambia wayahudi wanaamini biblia??!!!!! Fuatilie tena vizuri kuhusu hili suala ili uwafahamu vizuri. Kwa kifupi tu ni kuwa wayahudi wana kitabu kinaitwa Taurati (i.e. Torah), hiki ndicho wanakiamini na kukifuata. Na kuna tofauti kubwa kati ya Tora na Biblia. Kwa hiyo achana na mawazo kuwa biblia ni kitabu cha wayahudi.
Kukujaribu unamaanisha nini??!! Pili hapa tunarudi pale pale kuwa wewe unataka M'mungu afanye vile unavyotaka wewe, nilikuuliza kule juu, wewe unadhani ni nani hadi umpangie Mungu?
Hapo kwenye hilo bandiko umeona wapi "muslim women" au ni viroba??!!
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Who do you think Allah was talking to? VIROBA or Your Breathless Prophet?
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be sereous,usiisome Quran kama hadithi za shigongo.
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uwe unaelewa unaposoma Quran,What Quran tells us about pious women like maryam n who will behave like her?!
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So, tukiangalia maana ya religion Christianity sio religion? :what:
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Najua Allah ni nini!
Sio wewe tu walioshindwa kuielewa biblia hata wanaojiita wasomi nao wanatoka kapa kila uchao,huwa nasha ngaa kuwa wanasema hiki ni kitabu kilichoandikwa kwa makosa na watu wa kawaida sana,hivi msomi anashindwaje kuelewa maandishi ya asie msomi?
Nirudi kwenye swali lako:
Unaposoma biblia unahitaji uwe makini sana kama unataka uielewe
Hapo yesu alikuwa anazungumza na watu ambao hawajafika mbinguni na mara nyingi wamekuwa wakimbishia kuhusu yale aliyokuwa anawaambia hivyo hakukosea kuwaambia hakuna aliepanda mbinguni kwani kati yao hakuna aliyepanda kwenda huko isipokuwa Yesu mwenyewe
Hapo hakumaanisha kuwa tangu dunia iumbwe hakuna aliyeenda mbinguni[rejea kauli yake alipokuwa anawaambia kuwa hakuna aliyeisikia sauti ya Mungu wakati Musa alizungumza na Mungu]
Hapa ni kwamba ni kweli Mungu hamjaribu yoyote bali kila mmoja hujaribiwa na tamaa zake mwenyewe,lakini unatakiwa ujue kuwa kuna mambo Mungu anaweza kuyafanya kwa sababu maalum na mahali maalum
Mungu kumjaribu Ibrahimu kulikuwa kuna sababu maalum,pia kuna mambo Mungu aliyakataza na akaja kuyaruhusu baadhi na mengine aliyaruhusu nyakati maalum na kwa watu maalum tu[rejea Amri ya Mungu kukataza kujifanyia sanam na alipomruhusu Musa kutengeneza nyoka wa shaba]
Rejea jibu langu la swali lako la pili!
Kwenye haya maswali yako kuna utata
Naomba unithibitishie kuwa haya matukio yalitokea wakati mmoja na yalihusu mtu yuleyule
Majina ya Wayahudi yalikuwa yanafanana na kujirudiarudia hivyo unaweza kujichanganya ukidhani biblia imejichanganya[rejea Yuda iskariote na Yuda mwaadilifu wote hawa walikuwa wanafunzi wa Yesu,Yohana mbatizaji na Yohana mwanafunzi wa Yesu,Sauli mfalme na Sauli aliekuja kuitwa Paulo n.k] unapotoa maandiko kufuatia majina inahitajika utoe maelezo ya kutosha kuthibitisha kuwa yanazungumzia mtu mmoja lakini matukio yanakinzana!
bubbs biblia inaeleweka kama utataka kuielewa
Hapo kuna matukio mawili tofauti
Zaburi inazungumzia hukumu,kama ingekuwa leo tungesema ni hukumu ya kimahakama,hakuna anaechukia mtuhumiwa wake aliemtendea uovu akihukumiwa kwa haki
Mithali inazungumzia kitu kingine na nadhani unajua ni kwanini inaitwa mithali
Hapo inazungumzia baina ya mtu na mtu na sio mtuhumiwa na mahakama!
Rejea jibu langu la swali lako la pili!
Unapoona neno kujinyonga unaelewa nini?
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Najua Allah ni nini!
Sio wewe tu walioshindwa kuielewa biblia hata wanaojiita wasomi nao wanatoka kapa kila uchao,huwa nasha ngaa kuwa wanasema hiki ni kitabu kilichoandikwa kwa makosa na watu wa kawaida sana,hivi msomi anashindwaje kuelewa maandishi ya asie msomi?
Nirudi kwenye swali lako:
Unaposoma biblia unahitaji uwe makini sana kama unataka uielewe
Hapo yesu alikuwa anazungumza na watu ambao hawajafika mbinguni na mara nyingi wamekuwa wakimbishia kuhusu yale aliyokuwa anawaambia hivyo hakukosea kuwaambia hakuna aliepanda mbinguni kwani kati yao hakuna aliyepanda kwenda huko isipokuwa Yesu mwenyewe
Hapo hakumaanisha kuwa tangu dunia iumbwe hakuna aliyeenda mbinguni[rejea kauli yake alipokuwa anawaambia kuwa hakuna aliyeisikia sauti ya Mungu wakati Musa alizungumza na Mungu]
Hapa ni kwamba ni kweli Mungu hamjaribu yoyote bali kila mmoja hujaribiwa na tamaa zake mwenyewe,lakini unatakiwa ujue kuwa kuna mambo Mungu anaweza kuyafanya kwa sababu maalum na mahali maalum
Mungu kumjaribu Ibrahimu kulikuwa kuna sababu maalum,pia kuna mambo Mungu aliyakataza na akaja kuyaruhusu baadhi na mengine aliyaruhusu nyakati maalum na kwa watu maalum tu[rejea Amri ya Mungu kukataza kujifanyia sanam na alipomruhusu Musa kutengeneza nyoka wa shaba]
Rejea jibu langu la swali lako la pili!
Kwenye haya maswali yako kuna utata
Naomba unithibitishie kuwa haya matukio yalitokea wakati mmoja na yalihusu mtu yuleyule
Majina ya Wayahudi yalikuwa yanafanana na kujirudiarudia hivyo unaweza kujichanganya ukidhani biblia imejichanganya[rejea Yuda iskariote na Yuda mwaadilifu wote hawa walikuwa wanafunzi wa Yesu,Yohana mbatizaji na Yohana mwanafunzi wa Yesu,Sauli mfalme na Sauli aliekuja kuitwa Paulo n.k] unapotoa maandiko kufuatia majina inahitajika utoe maelezo ya kutosha kuthibitisha kuwa yanazungumzia mtu mmoja lakini matukio yanakinzana!
bubbs biblia inaeleweka kama utataka kuielewa
Hapo kuna matukio mawili tofauti
Zaburi inazungumzia hukumu,kama ingekuwa leo tungesema ni hukumu ya kimahakama,hakuna anaechukia mtuhumiwa wake aliemtendea uovu akihukumiwa kwa haki
Mithali inazungumzia kitu kingine na nadhani unajua ni kwanini inaitwa mithali
Hapo inazungumzia baina ya mtu na mtu na sio mtuhumiwa na mahakama!
Rejea jibu langu la swali lako la pili!
Unapoona neno kujinyonga unaelewa nini?
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Hii nimeipenda sana!
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