SGR Ethiopia one and a half years later.

[babayao255]

Mikebe ya changaa [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] ila wachina poa tu.

 

[eliakeem]

3. Inawaadhiri Sana vile wafugaji walio karibu na Reli wanawagongesha mifugo yao maksudi ili wapate fidia.

Inawaathiri na siyo inawaadhiri.
Halafu hicho ndo kiswahili mnachotamba kufundisha ughaibuni.

 

[eliakeem]

Ahaa has
Kenya wana enzi mila ya jina la Gari Moshi. Maana ikitumia umeme huwezi ita gari Moshi tena.

 

[mwaswast]

Data from kibera ain't reliable

Si Kibera ni kibela

 

[Bwana254]

Niliota juzu tu vile reli hii ya Tz ilikwama wakati umeme ulipotea na niliona wanyama wengi wameuliwa pale Morogoro na treni ya SGR . Hii reli ya Tz ilijengwa bila fikra n mipangilio mizuri hata engine ya Uturuki haikupenda ikaanguka .

 

[Kafrican]

Ethiopia kuna vituko, hii hapa chini inaitwa Modjo dry port!

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the level of incompetence is appalling.

That pic doesn't cover the whole dry port...
Anyway ukiangalia hio complete picture,Sijui kama ni kusahau walisahau ama ni kujenga ndo walichelewwesha , hapo ndani ya hio ICD kuna line moja tu ya reli, Yani reli moja ndo inaweza shukisha mzigo kwa wakati mmoja, hii inaifanya rail line nzima kukua na low carrying capacity manake wakifika hapo mojo dry port inabidi wapige line wakingojeane inakua major bottleneck.








Anyway, tusiwaponde sana, Sisi Kenya tuko na afadhali lakini bado changamoto zipo tele, itachukua kama 10 years hivi ndo tuanze kuona faida kubwa....
Ethiopia SGR

 

[ChoiceVariable]

Hii ni Kali nimecheka walahi.

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Huko Ethiopia wanadelezwa sheria ya bongo hapo ingetambulika ng'ombe imegonga train na mwenye mifugo atalipa mamlaka na si kinyume chake

 

[muhogo_kiks]

Okay. Nimekua nikisoma huu uzi na sasa nimeshindwa kuvumilia. Kenyans, you are being ridiculous. Inaonekana kama vile mnasubiria kwa Hamu kuona reli yetu ikifeli kama yenu na ya Ethiopia. Sasa nakupa sababu kwa nini haitifeli.

Kwanza reli yetu itapigwa fensi. Hii italinda miundombinu, na kumaitain spidi. Na pia Kuna njia maalum za mifugo kupita.

Tanzania sasa hivi tunatengeneza umeme zaidi ya matumizi yetu, kwahiyo umeme upo wa kutosha kuendesha treni. Na tunazidi ongeza megawatts by the way.

Hao wanaosema watu wa maroli watasabotage reli, hiyo hoja haitii mantiki. Treni inaenda Dodoma mpaka mwanza, mizigo mingi huenda tunduma sio Dodoma, kwa hiyo it won't affect biashara zao sana ukilinganisha kwamba tazara ipo kwa zaidi ya miaka 40 na biashara ya maroli ipo pia.

Wakenya wengi hawailewe hii corridor ya Dar-moro - Dodoma and then Tabora - nzega-kahama - mwanza. Kuna movement kubwa sana ya watu na mizigo pia . Yani mahitaji ya ndani tu yanatosheleza kufanya mradi kuwa na mafanikio.

 

[tuusan]

Huko Ethiopia wanadelezwa sheria ya bongo hapo ingetambulika ng'ombe imegonga train na mwenye mifugo atalipa mamlaka na si kinyume chake

Kwann hawajaweka uzio?
Sgr ya tz wanasema uzio utawekwa kote

 

[Zigi Rizla]

Na viaduct iko dar peke yake huko kwingine ni level crossings, fencing all around itakua possible kweli? Naona itahinder alot of movement ipasue tangagiza mara mbili. But thats just my observation.
Alafu hizi mlingoti zenu za kushikilia nyaya za stima ya sgr ni fupi mno sioni ziki support double stack

 

[YoungD]

wabongo walio hapa wana argue kwa feelings na sio facts, Arema standard ambayo inatumiwa kujenga reli yenyu iko na embankment height fupi sana kwa hivyo level crossings zitakua mingi tu kama Ethiopia.

 

[BlietzKrieg]

That pic doesn't cover the whole dry port...
Anyway ukiangalia hio complete picture,Sijui kama ni kusahau walisahau ama ni kujenga ndo walichelewwesha , hapo ndani ya hio ICD kuna line moja tu ya reli, Yani reli moja ndo inaweza shukisha mzigo kwa wakati mmoja, hii inaifanya rail line nzima kukua na low carrying capacity manake wakifika hapo mojo dry port inabidi wapige line wakingojeane inakua major bottleneck.








Anyway, tusiwaponde sana, Sisi Kenya tuko na afadhali lakini bado changamoto zipo tele, itachukua kama 10 years hivi ndo tuanze kuona faida kubwa....
Ethiopia SGR

Mbona rail ya Ethiopia iko not raised,almost flat kama ya TZ like less than 1metre?
Ama ni classes that matters?

 

[YoungD]

Mbona rail ya Ethiopia iko not raised,almost flat kama ya TZ like less than 1metre?
Ama ni classes that matters?

that's the Arema standard bro, they are not keen on embankment. Because of that, Ethiopia has already suffered one derailment and countless accidents with animals in the track.

 

[BlietzKrieg]

that's the Arema standard bro, they are not keen on embankment. Because of that, Ethiopia has already suffered one derailment and countless accidents with animals in the track.

Nmecheki YouTube, China rail zao zote ziko raised,,others more than ya Kenya.

 

[kilam]

wabongo walio hapa wana argue kwa feelings na sio facts, Arema standard ambayo inatumiwa kujenga reli yenyu iko na embankment height fupi sana kwa hivyo level crossings zitakua mingi tu kama Ethiopia.

Hamna level crossing hata moja, acha ujuha. Tafuta design specs za SGR ya TZ utaona kila kitu.

 

[kilam]

that's the Arema standard bro, they are not keen on embankment. Because of that, Ethiopia has already suffered one derailment and countless accidents with animals in the track.

Wanyama kugongwa ina uhusiano gani na urefu wa tuta? 😳 😳 Reli yote ya TZ itakuwa na uzio.

 

[YoungD]

Hamna level crossing hata moja, acha ujuha. Tafuta design specs za SGR ya TZ utaona kila kitu.

wacha ushabiki, Arema standard ina level crossings kibao. unless utuambie kuwa kuna Arema standard nyingine ambayo hatuijui.

 

[Kanya]

Wanyama kugongwa ina uhusiano gani na urefu wa tuta? 😳 😳 Reli yote ya TZ itakuwa na uzio.

Not true!! Only the first 20km of phase one.No fence in the remaining 180 km except at passenger stations and railway yards. ESIA report says so

 

[kilam]

Not true!! Only the first 20km of phase one.No fence in the remaining 180 km except at passenger stations and railway yards. ESIA report says so

Kuna sehemu hamna umuhimu wa kuweka uzio. Hata nchi zilizoendelea hawaweki uzio kwenye reli yote.

The SGR will be elevated above-ground for the first part of its route through Dar es Salaam. Approximately 51 km of Lot 1 (Dar es Salaam to Morogoro) and the entire Lot 2 (Morogoro - Dodoma - Makutupora) will be fenced along the alignment, both on the left and the right side. Additionally, for Lot 1, fencing will be in place in urban areas, around passenger stations, freight facilities and marshalling yards to prevent pedestrian access onto the track facilities.

https://yapimerkezi.com.tr/PdfDosyalari/a0008535-6241-4cc7-a28a-7c7da560737d.pdf

 

[kilam]

wacha ushabiki, Arema standard ina level crossings kibao. unless utuambie kuwa kuna Arema standard nyingine ambayo hatuijui.

Related infrastructure will be constructed to keep open existing roadways and water courses, eg

-Overpasses and underpasses where the proposed SGR intersects with existing roads.
-Culverts over natural watercourses or for drainage.
-Viaducts where the proposed SGR passes through well-established towns and or cities;
- Underpasses to allow cattle (livestock) and people to cross the railway .

https://yapimerkezi.com.tr/PdfDosyalari/a0008535-6241-4cc7-a28a-7c7da560737d.pdf