SGR Ethiopia one and a half years later.

[kilam]

wabongo walio hapa wana argue kwa feelings na sio facts, Arema standard ambayo inatumiwa kujenga reli yenyu iko na embankment height fupi sana kwa hivyo level crossings zitakua mingi tu kama Ethiopia.

Ungekuwa umetembea nchi nyingi za Ulaya ungekuwa umeona embankments height fupi kwenye nchi nyingi. Mfano Sweden embankment ni fupi. Tembea uone sio kung'ang'ania vitu usivyovifahamu.

 

[kilam]

Na viaduct iko dar peke yake huko kwingine ni level crossings, fencing all around itakua possible kweli? Naona itahinder alot of movement ipasue tangagiza mara mbili. But thats just my observation.
Alafu hizi mlingoti zenu za kushikilia nyaya za stima ya sgr ni fupi mno sioni ziki support double stack

Related infrastructure will be constructed to keep open existing roadways and water courses, eg

-Overpasses and underpasses where the proposed SGR intersects with existing roads.
-Culverts over natural watercourses or for drainage.
-Viaducts where the proposed SGR passes through well-established towns and or cities;
- Underpasses to allow cattle (livestock) and people to cross the railway .

https://yapimerkezi.com.tr/PdfDosyalari/a0008535-6241-4cc7-a28a-7c7da560737d.pdf

 

[kilam]

wacha ushabiki, Arema standard ina level crossings kibao. unless utuambie kuwa kuna Arema standard nyingine ambayo hatuijui.

And for your information, our SGR was designed by COWI, a Danish company and not Yapi Merkezi.

New standard gauge railway from Dar es Salaam to Morogoro

The modernisation is a valuable contribution to Tanzania's future development to meet an increasing demand for the transportation of passengers and improve the domestic supply network.

www.cowi.com

 

[Msapere]

It's an Arema rail the least quality rail in modern times.

And for your information, our SGR was designed by COWI, a Danish company and not Yapi Merkezi.

New standard gauge railway from Dar es Salaam to Morogoro

The modernisation is a valuable contribution to Tanzania's future development to meet an increasing demand for the transportation of passengers and improve the domestic supply network.

www.cowi.com

 

[Bantugbro]

And for your information, our SGR was designed by COWI, a Danish company and not Yapi Merkezi.

New standard gauge railway from Dar es Salaam to Morogoro

The modernisation is a valuable contribution to Tanzania's future development to meet an increasing demand for the transportation of passengers and improve the domestic supply network.

www.cowi.com

COWI are the best designers...by the way design philosophy ya Europeans ni minimalistic as practicable possible, huwa hawapendi kujenga structures kubwa za stesheni bila sababu, they are about efficiency na ulinzi wa mazingira and biodiversity...

 

[kilam]

It's an Arema rail the least quality rail in modern times.

Endelea kujipa moyo tu, utakufa na kijiba chako cha roho.

 

[Kifaru_07]

Uzuri wa diesel ni reliability when power distribution is the country is not so good. Hata kwamba Kenya imejitahidi kwa electric distribution bado hatuko level ya Japanese china au europe. kwa hivyo for now diesel imetosha. Delays since lauch very minimal. Ethipion are suffering because of this factor. Kazi ya reinforcing electricity distribution Tz inaendalea aje? Kuna new power lines zinajengwa? Ethiopia is a bigger economy with more power, nini inaonyesha reli ya Tz itakua more reliable?
Ata baadaye electrification ikifanywa treni za diesel zitafanya kazi bila wasi wasi.

 

[YoungD]

And for your information, our SGR was designed by COWI, a Danish company and not Yapi Merkezi.

New standard gauge railway from Dar es Salaam to Morogoro

The modernisation is a valuable contribution to Tanzania's future development to meet an increasing demand for the transportation of passengers and improve the domestic supply network.

www.cowi.com

nimekwambia uwacha ushabiki! kama huwezi kuelewa design standard ya reli ya tz ni Arema then hufai kuongea kuhusu reli. Hata designer akiwa YESU KRISTO, standard ni Arema.

 

[kilam]

nimekwambia uwacha ushabiki! kama huwezi kuelewa design standard ya reli ya tz ni Arema then hufai kuongea kuhusu reli. Hata designer akiwa YESU KRISTO, standard ni Arema.

Acha ujinga, nimeattach file la design specs hapo juu. Fungua usome kila kitu.
Ubishi wako wa kitoto hauwezi kufanya unelectrified na jointed SGR yenu kuwa bora.

 

[YoungD]

Acha ujinga, nimeattach file la design specs hapo juu. Fungua usome kila kitu.
Ubishi wako wa kitoto hauwezi kufanya unelectrified na jointed SGR yenu kuwa bora.

hamna kitu hapo, design na specifications za Arema ni zile zile dunia nzima. SGR yenyu ikianza kazi, uje tulinganishe na ya Kenya ipi bora.

 

[MWANAKA]

Kama Ethiopia wana inconsistent power supply na Wana almost 6000megawats
basi sgr Tanzania kama kweli ni electric ita stall siku ya kwanza.

Kumbuka ya kwetu inatumia ama mafuta au umeme kwahiyo hakuna sababu ya kushindwa kufanya kazi kwa sababu hizo alizotaja

 

[MWANAKA]

3. Inawaadhiri Sana vile wafugaji walio karibu na Reli wanawagongesha mifugo yao maksudi ili wapate fidia.

Hawajaweka vizuri Sheria zao kulinda miundo mbinu ya reli toka lini mfugo wako ugongwe halafu uidai fidia serikali? Vituko vya Ethiopia hivyo hapa kwetu hakunaga hiyo

 

[Ngokongosha]

wabongo walio hapa wana argue kwa feelings na sio facts, Arema standard ambayo inatumiwa kujenga reli yenyu iko na embankment height fupi sana kwa hivyo level crossings zitakua mingi tu kama Ethiopia.

Mbona ulaya wanatumia Arema na hakuna level crossing nyingi

 

[MWANAKA]

Una habari hata mwendokasi mlisema hivyohivyo lakini baada ya kuonyesha mafanikio japo changamoto hazikosi, mkabaki mnaduaaa. Kenya wameiga na sasa wamechora mistari na maidha yanaendelea[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Kila leo wanaziara kwetu wanakuja kujifunza
Mambo kibao tu wanakuja jifunza bongo halafu anatuletea ngonjela

 

[Ngokongosha]

that's the Arema standard bro, they are not keen on embankment. Because of that, Ethiopia has already suffered one derailment and countless accidents with animals in the track.

But the one running in Ethiopia is a Chinese standard, the other one is still under construction

 

[YoungD]

Mbona ulaya wanatumia Arema na hakuna level crossing nyingi

😱 🤣 wewe hata haustahili jibu!

But the one running in Ethiopia is a Chinese standard, the other one is still under construction

Chinese class 2 which has a lot of similarities with Arema especially on embankment and slope gradient, tonnage etc that reduce construction costs but has high running and maintenance costs.

 

[Kafrican]

Mbona rail ya Ethiopia iko not raised,almost flat kama ya TZ like less than 1metre?
Ama ni classes that matters?

Iko raised in some sections depending on terrain and gradient, but not all the sections regardless of terrain like the case with Kenya....
Another significant difference btn class I and class II is seen in things like level crossings


Level crossing on Ethiopian SGR

 

[Geza Ulole]

Kumbuka ya kwetu inatumia ama mafuta au umeme kwahiyo hakuna sababu ya kushindwa kufanya kazi kwa sababu hizo alizotaja

Wacha kuropoka kama hujui mambo! Huko ni kupotosha aside very few diesel engines our SGR will use electrical trains n the whole project will cost less than 50MW. Several projects Kinyerezi I n II Expansion aside Nyerere HP r going on. One btn Kinyerezi III n IV will start next year!

 

[Geza Ulole]

Iko raised in some sections depending on terrain and gradient, but not all the sections regardless of terrain like the case with Kenya....
Another significant difference btn class I and class II is seen in things like level crossings


Level crossing on Ethiopian SGR
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Hivi btn a superior drainage systems n embarkments which is the best way to preserve a railway? Learn a thing from here!

 

[Kafrican]

Hivi btn drainage systems n embarkments which is the best way to preserve a railway? Learn a thing from here!

But we also have drainages in addition to higher embankments... Infact this incident that happened during constructionback in 2016 is a very good example of the benefit of higher embankment....

There was heavy rain that caused flooding, The drainage system to diret water flow had not been done, The embankment concrete protection had not been finished.... But despite all of that, the railway was still structurally sound! the rail itself was not touched!!!!
Can you imagine how the situation would have been different if the Rail was low on the ground with the drainage system still not done??? Everything would have been swept away!!

Even with the best drainage system, Mother nature can still F4Ck you up when water level rises beyond the the drainage height and over flows... Especially these days with global warming and all where we are seeing longer dry seasons then all of a sudden the mother of all flooding that have never been seen before..