Shareholder mkubwa wa NMB ameondoka – Rabobank Nederland

Shareholder mkubwa wa NMB ameondoka – Rabobank Nederland

Unajua hata maana ya national security au hiyo economic security??? Haya maneno mnayajua au mnakaririshwa tu???

wapi duniani foreign bank imewai kuhatarisha national security au economic security??? Hivi una akili vizuri wewe???

Benki kubwa zikivuruga vitabu zinaua uchumi. Mporomoko wa uchumi wa dunia wa 2008 ulisababishwa na mabenki makubwa ya USA. Ikapitishwa sheria ya Dodd-Franks kuyadhibiti. Inakuwa vigumu zaidi kuwadhibiti au kuwaamini kama ni wageni.

National security is another cause for grave concerns. We dont know to whom, from where and for what purpose money may be funneled or funded from.

State house transanctions, defense spending and security organs banking can not be commandeered by foreign owners of a bank. The risk is just not worthwhile.

NMB, read NBC, ownership has finally riverted back to the people. The last vestiges of Benjamin Mkapa's egregious privatisation legacy are, at long last, buried with him. John Magufuli has laid claim to the mantle of Julius Nyerere's independence struggle.
 
Africa: Rabobank cuts reg risk in new venture

By Olivier Holmey

September 28, 2016

Regional stakes join FMO and Norfund assets; indirect, lower ownership reduces liability.

Rabobank has launched a new €660 million African banking joint venture, Arise, reaffirming its commitment to African banking and development.

[https://assets]

Berry Marttin,
Rabobank

In the new firm the Dutch mutual group will fuse its five minority stakes in African banks with two similar stakes held by Dutch development bank FMO, and six others owned by Norfund, an emerging market-focused state-run investment firm based in Oslo.

The company will grow to €1 billion over three to four years, says Deepak Malik, Norfund’s regional director, who will be CEO when Arise starts operations on January 1. One of Ghana’s top banks is already in negotiations to sell a stake to Arise, says Malik. Arise will seek new investments in west Africa, in particular.

The three parties and KPMG valued the existing holdings, in 10 banks spread across 20 countries, at €660 million.

These will be Arise’s initial assets, covering a large chunk of the biggest retail banks in east and southern Africa, notably Rabo’s stakes of 35% in National Microfinance Bank in Tanzania and 46% in Zanaco in Zambia. Norfund also owns 12% of Equity Bank in Kenya.

If, as envisaged, Portuguese mutual lender and Rabo’s Mozambique co-investor Montepio joins Arise, the venture will also have a large stake in Angola’s Finibanco.

But local staff are under no illusions about the challenges ahead. “Banks in Africa are looked upon by the regulators as risky business,” says Ineke Bussemaker, NMB’s CEO and a former Rabobank insider.

For FMO and Norfund, the venture constitutes a big new investment in African banking, involving several hundred million dollars in new capital deployment in the next three to four years.

“This is an excellent opportunity to enlarge our presence in Africa and participate in a platform that has scale,” says Jaap Reinking, financial institutions specialist at FMO.

For Rabo though, it may not constitute such a big new investment. FMO and Norfund will own 27% and 48% of Arise, respectively. Rabobank’s stake will be 25%. These proportions could decrease slightly, too, if Montepio joins. Yet Rabobank is only getting 25% as its partners will deploy more of the new cash, possibly partly by providing a higher proportion of the funding for new acquisitions, such as Ghana.

If existing stakes alone were counted, Rabobank would have about 45%, Norfund 30% and FMO 25%, says Reinking. Not coincidentally, as Bussemaker points out, 25% is the level that US regulations define as ownership of banks, and by extension liability, for any failures in areas like anti-money laundering. Rabobank, with banking operations in the US, must consider this more carefully than the other parties.

Reducing stakes

The aim is for Arise to hold minority stakes in banks with a bent for retail banking, SMEs, the unbanked and agriculture (the latter is one of Rabobank’s specialisms). It will gradually reduce stakes in some banks, where previous overlaps between the four parties bring it to a majority. Banks primarily focused on wealth and investment banking will not be part of the venture.

Rabobank will end up with a stake it feels more comfortable owning. There will even be a small positive impact to its profit and loss account from the transfers.

As such, the new venture looks less like Atlas Mara (Bob Diamond’s African bank investment vehicle). Instead, it is perhaps more in tune with Barclays’ decision in March to cut off its African business as CEO Jes Staley had similar concerns to Rabo over liabilities. His group’s 62% ownership of Barclays Africa meant it had to assume all the regulatory costs, while gaining only two thirds of the profit.

“We didn’t want to take the easy option of risk avoidance and just exit,” says Berry Marttin, Rabo’s board member responsible for the rural and international division. “Our reach is going to grow. We all know the constraints [of operating as an international bank in Africa] but the question is can you find a structure where you can move forward? That’s what we think we’ve found.”

Marttin says Rabo’s technical and managerial support for the various banks, such as sending trainees to the Netherlands, will continue, and spread to new lenders, while teaming up with similar assistance from FMO and Norfund. Arise is already recruiting a team of around 25 people, to be based in Cape Town, and at least one senior manager will come from Rabobank. The back office will be in the Netherlands.
Ok kwahiyo kumbe Rabo Bank imenunuliwa na Arise.

Sasa taharuki yote hii aliyoleta mleta mada maana yake nini
 
Benki kubwa zikivuruga vitabu zinaua uchumi. Mporomoko wa uchumi wa dunia wa 2008 ulisababishwa na mabenki makubwa ya USA. Ikapitishwa sheria ya Dodd-Franks kuyadhibiti. Inakuwa vigumu zaidi kuwadhibiti au kuwaamini kama ni wageni.

National security is another cause for grave concerns. We dont know to whom, from where and for what purpose money may be funneled or funded from.

State house transanctions, defense spending and security organs banking can not be commandeered by foreign owners of a bank. The risk is just not worthwhile.

NMB, read NBC, ownership has finally riverted back to the people. The last vestiges of Benjamin Mkapa's egregious privatisation legacy are, at long last, buried with him. John Magufuli has laid claim to the mantle of Julius Nyerere's independence struggle.

Remember Julius Nyerere’s independence struggle failed. F#ck you & your exaggerated patriotism!
 
Africa: Rabobank cuts reg risk in new venture

By Olivier Holmey

September 28, 2016

Regional stakes join FMO and Norfund assets; indirect, lower ownership reduces liability.

Rabobank has launched a new €660 million African banking joint venture, Arise, reaffirming its commitment to African banking and development.

[https://assets]

Berry Marttin,
Rabobank

In the new firm the Dutch mutual group will fuse its five minority stakes in African banks with two similar stakes held by Dutch development bank FMO, and six others owned by Norfund, an emerging market-focused state-run investment firm based in Oslo.

The company will grow to €1 billion over three to four years, says Deepak Malik, Norfund’s regional director, who will be CEO when Arise starts operations on January 1. One of Ghana’s top banks is already in negotiations to sell a stake to Arise, says Malik. Arise will seek new investments in west Africa, in particular.

The three parties and KPMG valued the existing holdings, in 10 banks spread across 20 countries, at €660 million.

These will be Arise’s initial assets, covering a large chunk of the biggest retail banks in east and southern Africa, notably Rabo’s stakes of 35% in National Microfinance Bank in Tanzania and 46% in Zanaco in Zambia. Norfund also owns 12% of Equity Bank in Kenya.

If, as envisaged, Portuguese mutual lender and Rabo’s Mozambique co-investor Montepio joins Arise, the venture will also have a large stake in Angola’s Finibanco.

But local staff are under no illusions about the challenges ahead. “Banks in Africa are looked upon by the regulators as risky business,” says Ineke Bussemaker, NMB’s CEO and a former Rabobank insider.

For FMO and Norfund, the venture constitutes a big new investment in African banking, involving several hundred million dollars in new capital deployment in the next three to four years.

“This is an excellent opportunity to enlarge our presence in Africa and participate in a platform that has scale,” says Jaap Reinking, financial institutions specialist at FMO.

For Rabo though, it may not constitute such a big new investment. FMO and Norfund will own 27% and 48% of Arise, respectively. Rabobank’s stake will be 25%. These proportions could decrease slightly, too, if Montepio joins. Yet Rabobank is only getting 25% as its partners will deploy more of the new cash, possibly partly by providing a higher proportion of the funding for new acquisitions, such as Ghana.

If existing stakes alone were counted, Rabobank would have about 45%, Norfund 30% and FMO 25%, says Reinking. Not coincidentally, as Bussemaker points out, 25% is the level that US regulations define as ownership of banks, and by extension liability, for any failures in areas like anti-money laundering. Rabobank, with banking operations in the US, must consider this more carefully than the other parties.

Reducing stakes

The aim is for Arise to hold minority stakes in banks with a bent for retail banking, SMEs, the unbanked and agriculture (the latter is one of Rabobank’s specialisms). It will gradually reduce stakes in some banks, where previous overlaps between the four parties bring it to a majority. Banks primarily focused on wealth and investment banking will not be part of the venture.

Rabobank will end up with a stake it feels more comfortable owning. There will even be a small positive impact to its profit and loss account from the transfers.

As such, the new venture looks less like Atlas Mara (Bob Diamond’s African bank investment vehicle). Instead, it is perhaps more in tune with Barclays’ decision in March to cut off its African business as CEO Jes Staley had similar concerns to Rabo over liabilities. His group’s 62% ownership of Barclays Africa meant it had to assume all the regulatory costs, while gaining only two thirds of the profit.

“We didn’t want to take the easy option of risk avoidance and just exit,” says Berry Marttin, Rabo’s board member responsible for the rural and international division. “Our reach is going to grow. We all know the constraints [of operating as an international bank in Africa] but the question is can you find a structure where you can move forward? That’s what we think we’ve found.”

Marttin says Rabo’s technical and managerial support for the various banks, such as sending trainees to the Netherlands, will continue, and spread to new lenders, while teaming up with similar assistance from FMO and Norfund. Arise is already recruiting a team of around 25 people, to be based in Cape Town, and at least one senior manager will come from Rabobank. The back office will be in the Netherlands.
Doohhhh! Tokea September 28, 2016, leta habari ya karibuni
 
Uchumi wa JIWE at the very high speed.
Ni kwenye trading session ya jana 28.12.2020 Dar es salaam stock exchange, sijajua kama NMB wame buy back au kuna local investor amenunua, au zimebadilisha ownership kwa foreign investor mwenzao (ntazidi kufuatilia)

Ikiwa kama NMB wame buy back au local investor amenunua, ina maana inakuwa moja kwa moja na impact kwenye uchumi wetu, in terms of capital outflow ya Dola takribani $ 183 Million zitaondoka kwenye uchumi wetu kuwalipa Rabobank mchuzi wao.

Ikiwa kama kuna another foreign investor amezinunua, hapo hakuna impact yoyote kwenye uchumi maana hakutakuwa na capital outflow ya Dola. Japokuwa nimeangalia jana kwenye report ya broker, sijaona kama kuna investor wa nje amezinunua (more likely ni buy back ya NMB) ambayo itaipa serikali kuwa shareholder mkubwa.

Kwa angle nyingine pia, naona kama kuna uwezekano wa serikali kuwa shareholder mkubwa wa NMB endapo kama NMB wame buy back which means shareholder mkubwa atakuwa ni Hazina (Treasury Registrar) kitu ambacho mimi nakiona hakina afya hata kidogo ukizingatia historian a performance ya benki zinazomilikiwa na serikali.

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Sijajua sababu haswa iliyowafanya kuondoka Tanzania, kuna possibilities nyingi, labda watu wa NMB wanaweza kuwa wanaelewa vema nini kinaendelea. Kama ni decision yao kama wao inawezekana labda wameona outlook ya banking industry kwa Tanzania labda sio nzuri kwa mbeleni ndio maana wameamua kuondoa mtaji wao au sijui kama ni msukumo kutoka serikalini kutaka kui-contro, benki ya NMB which means labda 'Rabobank Kafukuzwa'... nadhani siku chache za mbeleni tutajua nini haswa ndo sababu.

Lakini kwa namna na sababu yoyote, bado hii exit ya Rabobank sio kitu ambacho nakiona kama kina afya kwa NMB kama benki, na pia kinaweza kuwa na impact kwenye FDI kwa Tanzania.

Mjumbe hauawi
N. Mushi
 
Ninakubaliana na wewe.

Huyo uliyemjibu hapo katoa wazo la "kukariri".

Amesikia watu fulani wakisema hivyo, na yeye bila kulidadavua vizuri kichwani mwake aelewe ukweli wake, kalibeba tu na kulitupa hapa JF na yeye aonekane ni mjuaji wa mambo hayo.

Mashirika makubwa yanayofanya biashara kubwa, hasa hii ya ujenzi wa miundo mbinu toka China, karibu yote ni mali ya serikali ya China.

Ukisoma humu ndani ya JF kuna mijadala chungu nzima serikali ijiondoe kwenye uendeshaji wa mashirika kama TANESCO, wanataka makampuni binafsi ndiyo yawe washiriki wakuu wa kuzalisha na kutugawia umeme. Hawataki Tanesco iboreshwe, na hata kama pakiwepo ushindani iweze kushindana na kushinda.

Kuna vitu ambavyo serikali haiwezi kamwe kujitoa na kuwasukumia kila kitu hao 'binafsi' hata huko kwenye ubepari kwenyewe. Lakini hapa ukisikia mtu aliyekariri akirudia rudia hicho alichokaririshwa utadhani hakuna dhambi kubwa kuliko serikali kuwa na vyombo vyake vya kuhakikisha baadhi ya sekta haziachwi kuwa kwa mashirika binafsi.
Jambo muhimu hapa ni kuhakikisha watumishi wake inaowaweka kwenye mashirika hayo, wanayasimamia kibiashara na kuyafanya yatimize wajibu wao kwa wananchi.
Inawezekana kweli nimekariri kama ulivyosema, lakini ni lini na wapi serikali imewahi kujiingiza kwenye biashara ikafanikiwa? kuna mifano mingi tu serikali ilipojaribu kuingia ilianguakia pua

Mfano korosho, serikali iliingia kichwakichwa kutaka kupata umaarufu wa kisiasa matokeo yake mpaka leo kuna wakulima hawajalipwa hela ya korosho na mbaya zaidi TISS haitumiki ipasavyo kufanya ujajususi wa kiuchumi ipo busy kuwasaka wapinzani.

Lakini kama serikali atakuwa regulator atakuwa amejipunguzia mzigo wa kupambana na changamoto za kibiashara, kazi yake kubwa itakuwa ni kuhakikisha kila upande unanufaika.
 
OUT OF TOPIC..Geita wapata Jengo refu kuliko yote linaitwa Mfugale tower, congratulations jameni,maendeleo hayana chama.
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Natafiti bado nijue zimeenda kwa nani..

Nadhani kuna muelekeo wa investors wengi wa nje kuondoka kwenye banking sector; hao Rabo Bank na wengine walikuwa wamewekeza pia Akiba Commercial bank nako wameuza stake yao!! The bank of Tanzania should be concerned about the outflow of forex due to the exit of these foreign investors at this crucial time. Remember foreign investors are allergic to both political/economic uncertainty!!!

Wenzetu Wanaona mbali!!!
 
Remember Julius Nyerere’s independence struggle failed. F#ck you & your exaggerated patriotism!
Tulipingwa na dunia, tukawekewa vikwazo.

Lakini kila benki, kila kampuni, kila biashara tuliziendesha wenyewe wakati wa Mwalimu. Biashara ambayo ilitushinda hatukuita wageni, tuliifungilia mbali kuliko kuliwa, kama vile kuchimba katikati dunia kutafuta dhahabu.

We were a living embodiment of business independence.

NMB foreign owners exiting the country is welcome news of addition by subtraction. WE, THE PEOPLE, will fill the void.

There is no foreign bank in the country, be it Barclays, EXIM, Citibank, KBC, STANBIC, BOA, FNB, DTB,FBME, Bank of India, Bank of wherever on earth they are from, none of them has grown bigger and better than the ones we built and are running them ourselves, including NMB and the whooping behemoth that is BENKI YA USHIRIKA NA MAENDELEO VIJIJINI. So, of course, we can. We've been there and we've been here. Julius Nyerere is back, bigger and better than ever.

You are a banana republic if you need a foreigner to run a bank for you.
 
Mimi mwenyewe sina imani na serikali kama mmiliki wa kitu chochote..

Serikali haijui kutunza na kutumia fedha na na ndio maana kila leo wanatoza na kuongeza kodi!! Serikali sio kazi yake kufanya biashara ya aina yeyote ile kwasababu hawana utaalam wa kibiashara!!! Any business venture that is undertaken by the government is bound to fail!!!
 
Ni kwenye trading session ya jana 28.12.2020 Dar es salaam stock exchange, sijajua kama NMB wame buy back au kuna local investor amenunua, au zimebadilisha ownership kwa foreign investor mwenzao (ntazidi kufuatilia)

Ikiwa kama NMB wame buy back au local investor amenunua, ina maana inakuwa moja kwa moja na impact kwenye uchumi wetu, in terms of capital outflow ya Dola takribani $ 183 Million zitaondoka kwenye uchumi wetu kuwalipa Rabobank mchuzi wao.

Ikiwa kama kuna another foreign investor amezinunua, hapo hakuna impact yoyote kwenye uchumi maana hakutakuwa na capital outflow ya Dola. Japokuwa nimeangalia jana kwenye report ya broker, sijaona kama kuna investor wa nje amezinunua (more likely ni buy back ya NMB) ambayo itaipa serikali kuwa shareholder mkubwa.

Kwa angle nyingine pia, naona kama kuna uwezekano wa serikali kuwa shareholder mkubwa wa NMB endapo kama NMB wame buy back which means shareholder mkubwa atakuwa ni Hazina (Treasury Registrar) kitu ambacho mimi nakiona hakina afya hata kidogo ukizingatia historian a performance ya benki zinazomilikiwa na serikali.

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Sijajua sababu haswa iliyowafanya kuondoka Tanzania, kuna possibilities nyingi, labda watu wa NMB wanaweza kuwa wanaelewa vema nini kinaendelea. Kama ni decision yao kama wao inawezekana labda wameona outlook ya banking industry kwa Tanzania labda sio nzuri kwa mbeleni ndio maana wameamua kuondoa mtaji wao au sijui kama ni msukumo kutoka serikalini kutaka kui-contro, benki ya NMB which means labda 'Rabobank Kafukuzwa'... nadhani siku chache za mbeleni tutajua nini haswa ndo sababu.

Lakini kwa namna na sababu yoyote, bado hii exit ya Rabobank sio kitu ambacho nakiona kama kina afya kwa NMB kama benki, na pia kinaweza kuwa na impact kwenye FDI kwa Tanzania.

Mjumbe hauawi
N. Mushi
Pamoja na kuwa umejitetea kuwa mjumbe auwawi ingebidi upigwe ata makofi kadhaa ili uamke usingizini.

Fact: Ni bora hisa zimilikiwe na watanzania ata kama ni serekali yenyewe sbb faida ya benki miaka nenda miaka rudi inayo tolewa kwa wana hisa na kupelekwa nchi za nje itakuwa inabaki hapa hapa. Kusema kuwa benki inaweza kuendeshwa vibaya sio kweli. Wakurugenzi wa mashirika sasa hivi wamenyooka kama kamba kwa sababu zinazoeleweka.
 
Labda serikali wanataka kumiliki kwa 100%.... Kama ilivyokuwa NBC zamani kabla haijapigwa bei kwenda ABSA Group.....
 
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