Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

The Belarusian platform is suitable for negotiations between Moscow and Kyiv, Putin said.
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[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

If Russia had been even a little late with the operation, then a crushing blow would have been dealt to Russian territory, Lukashenka said.
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[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

Lukashenka said that he discussed Bucha with Putin. The Belarusian leader called it a British special operation.
Galip SV

 

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

Lukashenko said that the United States is pushing Poland and the Baltic States to confront Belarus.
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[Superpower]

Unaambiwa those who don't learn from history are bound to repeat it. Urussi haijajifunza kutokana na Cuba Missile Crisis na Kilichotokea baadae.
Urussi kakosea sana kuivamia Ukraine maana ameingiza destabilization katika nchi yake. Chukua popcorn ushuhudie anguko la Putin

Wee jamaa putini akiaanguka sijui dunia itakuwa Katika Hali gani maana liinchi Lina masilaha ya kutosha Lina resource za kutosha, Lina wanashirika wanguvu. Yaani ukienda huko fb page za fb za cnn, aljerzela, BBC ona jamaa watu wanavyo mshangilia, waarabu, wahindi, wachina, waafrika wapo na mrusi sijui nato wanashindia wapi ndio maana jaama yenu kaja kutoamba ukiangalia zile comment mzungu lazima ajiulize kwanini?

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[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

The sanctions "blitzkrieg" against Russia failed, the country's industry and financial system are working, Putin said.
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[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

The Cabinet of Ministers of Russia will expand the program for providing housing certificates for young scientists for the current year, Mishustin said.
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[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

The Russian economy will certainly adapt to the new situation, Putin said.
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[Mwanamkiwi]

Kumbe shabaha ya vikwazo tena sio kumzorotesha urusi washindwe kupigana vita!?

Mbn mnatuchanganya

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Pole kama uhalisia inakuchanganya. Vikwazo ni nyenzo ambayo haileti matokeo mara moja. Hata kama EU wakisimamisha gesi ya Urusi (na malipo) mara moja, haitasimamisha uchumi na uwezo wa kuendleza vita kwa muda mara moja.
Ukiacha mashabiki kando, kila mmoja mwenye macho na masikio alijua hayo. Heri usifikiri dunia inatokea hapa jamiiforums. Jielimishe, utaona.
Ila baada ya muda kidogo, matokeo yataonyesha.

 

[Nyamizi]

Kheri yetu sie bado tunakua tunayonafasi ya 'kukomaa kidogo kuchwani' tusipojua leo tutajua kesho muda bado upo. kuna nyie sasa mliokwishakukua na vichwani mmedumaa. Hizi platform ni za kizazi chetu, kizazi kipya. Nyie mnalazimisha tu si unaona hata kutype kunakupa shida kuacha nafasi, kuweka alama huwezi. Jua lishakuzamia bibi muda wa kulea vitukuu huu

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Kunywa maji,mishipa ya kichwa itapasuka kijana

 

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

The main thing from Putin's statements after negotiations with Lukashenka:

- Putin thanked Lukashenka for organizing negotiations with Ukraine: “We believe that the Belarusian platform is quite suitable for further contacts”;

- it is important for both countries to strengthen cooperation in the conditions when the West unleashed an all-out sanctions war against them;

- The Russian Federation maintains the most favorable prices for oil and gas for the domestic market of Belarus. Settlements for them are translated into rubles;

- the main task of building the Union State is to remove barriers and create equal opportunities for citizens of both countries;

— Russia and Belarus will strengthen cooperation in the space industry. The first flight of a Belarusian cosmonaut may take place as early as 2023;

- a law will be adopted in the near future, allowing citizens of Belarus to work in Tsiolkovsky.
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[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

Many say that the United States is ready to fight to the last Ukrainian, and this is true, Putin said.
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[Mwanamkiwi]

If Russia had been even a little late with the operation, then a crushing blow would have been dealt to Russian territory, Lukashenka said.
Galip SV

Anajitahidi, lakini ni maneno matupu. Nani angepiga Urusi? Ukraine yenye makisio asilimia 10 ya Urusi??? NATO iliyojaa mafarakano ndani yake kabla ya vita?
Jeshi la Ukraine kwa kutumia silaha ndogo za mbegani?
Lukashenka anapaswa kujitahidi kucheza wakati Putin anapiga ngoma. Maana hadi sasa hawezi kutuma jeshi lake akijua wengi wangegoma. Kwa hiyo anapiga vita ya mdomoni na kwa kumruhusu Putin kutumia eneo lake.

 

[Bwana Utam]

Vita mbaya sana UKRAINE imebaki magofu, sasa watapata wapi pesa ya kujenga majengo mapya kila mkoa?

Ila wanayapiga sana majeshi ya RUSSIA ujue

 

[triga]

Sioni mwisho bado. Maana vita anaweza kuendesha kwa mud bila dolar. Rubel anaweza kuchapisha anavyotaka (itaharibu uchumi zaidi, lakini anaweza kuendelea bado kwa kufanya wananchi maskini zaidi); kwa rubel analipa jeshi, analipa wafanyakazi kwenye viwandi, viwanda vya kutengenezea silaha anavyo.
Hanunui silaha nje.
Isipokuwa vipuli vya compyuta anazohitaji kwa silaha za kisasa, ataona matatizo mara akiba zinakwisha. Hapa anahitaji soko la dunia maana hajitegemei.
Atazipata kwa bei maradufu au zaidi kwa njia ya magendo, na hapo anataka kutunza dolar / Euro alizo nazo Urusi (hii sababu kutolipa madeni maana angeweza)
Hivyo naogopa kwa miezi kadhaa bado atakuwa na uwezo wa kuendelea na kuleta vifo na uharibifu.
Isipokuwa akiona hali inaanza kuwa mbaya kweli, atatangaza ushindi bila shaka.
Ilhali hadi sasa asilimia kubwa ya wananchi bado wanaamini propaganda yake, atatumaini watamwamini pia ushindi...

ProNato wenzako wanakuangusha. Uwafundishe wao kisha uwakabili ProRussia.

Urusi bado yupo ngangari

• Ulaya na hata US bado wanaendelea kununua energy yake (India wanasema wanachonunua wao kwa mwezi Ulaya wanakinunua kwa mchana tu)
• China&India bado wanafanya biashara na Urusi (tena kuondolewa kwa Imran khan madarakani kunazidi kuimarisha uhusiano wa Russia na India)
• Nchi nyinginezo (ambazo hazijaweka vikwazo) duniani bado zinfanya biashara na Urusi

Toka kabla ya vita Russia anauza zaidi nje kuliko anavyonunua (Exports/Imports)
Nature ya bidhaa wanazoexports zaidi ni raw materials i.e. petrol crude oil, petroleum gas, coal, iron, nickel
Bidhaa wanazoimport zaidi ni magari, spea, broadcastn epqm, computers etc.

Rusia anaweza kutokuimport hizo bidhaa na bado akasurvive (sio za muhimu sana) lkn wale wanaomtegemea russia kwenye raw materials (Russia expprts) hawawezi kusurvive bila hizo bidhaa.

Kama kuna mtu anategemea uchumj wa urusi ukwame leo au kesho atasubiri sana

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[Nyamizi]

Sioni mwisho bado. Maana vita anaweza kuendesha kwa mud bila dolar. Rubel anaweza kuchapisha anavyotaka (itaharibu uchumi zaidi, lakini anaweza kuendelea bado kwa kufanya wananchi maskini zaidi); kwa rubel analipa jeshi, analipa wafanyakazi kwenye viwandi, viwanda vya kutengenezea silaha anavyo.
Hanunui silaha nje.
Isipokuwa vipuli vya compyuta anazohitaji kwa silaha za kisasa, ataona matatizo mara akiba zinakwisha. Hapa anahitaji soko la dunia maana hajitegemei.
Atazipata kwa bei maradufu au zaidi kwa njia ya magendo, na hapo anataka kutunza dolar / Euro alizo nazo Urusi (hii sababu kutolipa madeni maana angeweza)
Hivyo naogopa kwa miezi kadhaa bado atakuwa na uwezo wa kuendelea na kuleta vifo na uharibifu.
Isipokuwa akiona hali inaanza kuwa mbaya kweli, atatangaza ushindi bila shaka.
Ilhali hadi sasa asilimia kubwa ya wananchi bado wanaamini propaganda yake, atatumaini watamwamini pia ushindi...

Asante sana kwa ufafanuzi huu na ndiyo maana nikatia shaka uwezo wake wa kupigana multiple wars.Ukiangalia kwa hili la Ukraine ni kama NATO/US wameamua hii vita iwe ya muda mrefu,sioni ikiisha hivi karibuni kama wengi wetu tulivyotaka kuamini hapo kabla.Kwa mwendo huu wa hili la Ukraine hajalimaliza anataka kurukia kwa kina Finland,wale wataendelea na mchakato wao wa kujiunga na NATO wakitaka na kwa vitisho anavyowapa asipofanya kweli ndiyo atadharaulika zaidi na akiamua pia kuwaanzishia mtiti kama aliouanzisha Ukraine pale ndipo atakwenda kutumbukia shimoni ki Uchumi moja kwa moja. Binafsi naamini pale Ukraine hii vita haiishi leo wala kesho wala mwezi ujao.

 

[Bwana Utam]

Hapana wamo, tena wamo wengi mno... Isipokuwa wapo unofficial... Hawataki kutangaza wazi wanajua kitakachotokea.

Kuna mahujiano yalikuwa yanafanyika C3 News ya Ufaransa na mmoja wa kujitolea aliyeenda huko Ukraine Anafunguka yote aloyoyakuta... Msikilize kwenye hii video View attachment 2184991

Hizi video za namna hii kwangu mara zote hua zinagoma inaweza kua kwanini
Siwezi kuzipakua

 

[mohamedidrisa789]

Nafikiri unielewi vizuri nini nachomanisha.vikwazo kwa Urusi vinakuwa ngumu sana kufanya kazi kwa sababu ni watu wenye lasilimali nyingi sana kwa hapa duniani na pia wapo juu kitechnologia.

Ujiulizi kampuni zote kubwa duniani zimeondoka Urusi na bado maisha yanaendelea kama vile hamna kilichotokea.kampuni zilizondoka Urusi ingekuwa ndo zimeondoka Africa basi ingekuwa ndo mwisho wetu kwa sababu sisi ni tegemezi tofauti na warusi. Mzee kitu chochote unachokijua wewe chenye umuhimu hapa duniani basi warusi wanakitengeneza.

Tafadhali ujisomee kidogo. Waliingiza mitambo mingi, waliuza mitambo michache nje (mfano injini za roketi kubwa - hadi juzi ambako kampuni ya Musk alileta kitu kipya ambacho hawawezi..)

 

[Galip Veryl]

Vita mbaya sana UKRAINE imebaki magofu, sasa watapata wapi pesa ya kujenga majengo mapya kila mkoa?

Kuna hii kauli wanasema "Demand and Supply".

Ukiitizama ni maneno matatu tu ila yana maana kubwa sana tena sana. Dunia tunayoishi sasa njia za kibiashara are so dirty... Tena chafu mno.

Ukitokea kuzijua walau kwa uchache utarudi kwenye ile kauli kwanini inasemwa "Matajiri kwenda peponi ni sawa na ngamia kupita kwenye tundu la sindano"...

Globalist, Billionaires na ma-Capitalists wengineo huwa wanatamaduni ya kutengeneza "Crisis" either ya kiuchumi au kiafya... Most will suffer then wana'come up with a solution. "Yani una create demand then unatoa supply" that's how they make money...

Haya matukio hayaji bahati mbaya. Yanakuja katika mpangilio ambao sio wengi katika sisi tunaweza kuuona kwasabab tuna macho ila hatuyashughulishi kuona.

Tusianzie mbali, tuzungumzie tukio moja tu la karibuni. The world have recovered kutoka kwenye Covid-19... Katika hiki kipindi watu wengi wamepoteza ajira na uchumi kuporomoka ila ndani ya hicho hicho kipindi according to Forbes list ya ma'billionare imeongezeka. Na wengi wao wakitoka kwenye medical field.

Siku chache kabla ya 24th Feb neno Covid-19 lilikuwa wimbo wa taifa, lakini sa hivi liko wapi? [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Nisikuchoshe maelezo mengi, ila amini hicho unachokiona kama magofu ni ajira na sehem ya kuingizia kipato baada ya mgogoro kuisha.

Deni la mikopo yooote ya silaha zinazotolewa zitalipwa, Ukraine itaingia mikopo ya kujenga miundo mbinu yake iliyoharibika... Hiyo n fursa ya "wahuni" flan hv na harakati nyinginezo...

Hapo hapo tukumbushane, Hiyo hiyo serikali ya kyiv ilitangaza nyuma hapo nazan ka week 3 hivi zilizopita kiasi cha fidia flan hivi kwa wananchi ila sharti tu awe "Double Vaxed".

Sasa hapo zimua ubongo... Jiulize why lazima tu awe kapigwa jab tena 2... Rejea nyuma Ukraine is the world first country to issue digital ID... Unaijua Digital ID ikoje na how it works?

Dunia yetu hii ina michezo michafu ingawa tumejitia upofu kuitizama. Tupo na Russia sio kisa tunapenda vita la hasha. Bali tunaamini ushindi wa Russia ndio usalama wa dunia hii tuliyonayo.

 

[idawa]

Many say that the United States is ready to fight to the last Ukrainian, and this is true, Putin said.
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Kwamba USA yuko tayari wa Ukrane wote wafe kibudu ila sio ionekane Urussi ameshinda.

Zelenskyy huu ujumbe inabidi autathimini kwa kina sana...