Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Jesus Mlokozi]

EU, UK, Japan na US ndio wameweka vikwazo vya kiuchumi kwa Urusi sio NATO.

NATO ni nini!?

 

[Bugucha]

Russia's army would be "annihilated" by the West's military response if Vladimir Putin uses nuclear weapons against Ukraine, EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell has warned.

"Putin is saying he is not bluffing. Well, he cannot afford bluffing, and it has to be clear that the people supporting Ukraine and the European Union and the member states, and the United States and Nato are not bluffing either," Borrell said in Brussels.

"Any nuclear attack against Ukraine will create an answer, not a nuclear answer but such a powerful answer from the military side that the Russian army will be annihilated." -- Russia Invades UKraine - Page 15

FUSO HIMARS himaars

Mwanzoni walisema Urusi ikiivamia Ukraine,haitavumikiwa, sasa hivi wamehamisha magoli.🚮

 

[FUSO]

EU, UK, Japan na US ndio wameweka vikwazo vya kiuchumi kwa Urusi sio NATO.

Mjulishe huyo jamaa.. hata silaha zinatoka nchi hizo na zinakuwa declared.

Na kama hajui Ukraine tangu vita ianze inajihami tu ndani ya mipaka yake....ila uwezo wa kurusha kitu kirefu hadi Urusi wanao.

Vita ina sheria zake..

 

[Bugucha]

Mjulishe huyo jamaa.. hata silaha zinatoka nchi hizo na zinakuwa declared.

Na kama hajui Ukraine tangu vita ianze inajihami tu ndani ya mipaka yake....ila uwezo wa kurusha kitu kirefu hadi Urusi wanao.

Vita ina sheria zake..

Urusi anarusha makombora ya masafa marefu,Ila Ukraine hairushi,kwani hiyo sheria Urusi inampa haki Urusi tu alafu Ukraine ina mnyima? Sheria gani ya vita unayyongelea ww?

 

[FUSO]

Unaposema Putin ameyakanyaga,unajua Kwanini Urusi ikiingia vitani? Nimeishakuuliza hili swali Ila hujibu mkuu.

Hajui anachokitafuta...kama ni NATO kuwa karibu na mipaka yake si hoja, na yeye basi aanzishe umoja wake wa kujihami ili aende karibu na watesi wake.

I can see this bouncing back !! Backfired.

 

[Jesus Mlokozi]

🇷🇺🇫🇷Russian submarine spotted off the coast of Brittany in France and escorted by the French Navy - BFM TV

 

[Bugucha]

Russia fanboys, mtajionea wenyewe kuwa Putin hana zaidi ya miaka 2 pale Moscow, anaenda kuondolewa madarakani.

A long waited defense systems; IRIS-Ts, NASAMS, Patriot, and decisive weapons such as HIMARS, Leorpard, ATACMS, and possibly Iron domes are being delivered to UKraine.

"A new era of air defence has begun in

. IRIS-Ts from

are already here ..." -- Russia Invades UKraine - Page 15

Kirahisi tu kama unanyoongea?

 

[D A E M U S H I N]

RUSSIA anaihitaji zaidi hii vita dhidi ya ukraine iendelee kuliko NATO wanavyoihitaji.

Putin ameshasema kuanzia sasa ukraine watashambuliwa kwa maguruneti ya kuulia mbwa mwitu badala ya iskander.

Russia ni wahuni sana, yaani wanakuchagulia aina ya kipigo kwa mujibu wa matendo yako.

 

[FUSO]

Urusi anarusha makombora ya masafa marefu,Ila Ukraine hairushi,kwani hiyo sheria Urusi inampa haki Urusi tu alafu Ukraine ina mnyima? Sheria gani ya vita unayyongelea ww?

Hujui vita...better keep quiet. Hujui sheria za kivita za kimataifa. Usifikiri hii Dunia you can do what you want just because u have power ama una makombora ya masafa marefu.

Unafikiri kwa nini Africa hainunui mafuta toka Urusi directly huku mrusi kashusha balaa?
Muulize M7 kwa nini hajakubali meli ishushe kwake ?

 

[Nkuba25]

Ulaya inaweza ku exist bila gasi na mafuta ya urusi kama ulikuwa hujui. Hapa ndipo mnapojidanganya.

Kifupi Putin ajiandae kupigana vita ndefu, vita hii si ya leo wala kesho.

Kama wangekuwa wanaweza kuishi bila gas/oil from Russia basi haya maandamano yanayoendelea kwa Sasa across Europe yasingekuwepo.

 

[ITR]

Ni aibu na fedheha kwa Supa-pawa kupewa msaada wa silaha na nchi ya Iran inayougulia maumivu ya vikwazo vya kiuchumi.

Hii inaonyesha ubabe wa Urusi ni wa kipropaganda zaidi kuliko uhalisia, hiyo ni Ukraine tu imemchosha kiasi hicho, je ingekua nchi kubwa kama UK, Germany au US ?

Hakuna msaada hapo bali kinacho endelea hapo ni biashara alafu kingine Urusi na Iran ni washirika wakubwa hata Marekani ni mnunuzi mkubwa wa mifumo ya ulinzi ya Israel lakini Wakati huo ndio mdhamini na mlinzi mkuu wa Israel.

Aibu ni kwa wale walio muwekea vikwazo kwa lengo la kuidhohofisha na kuisambaratisha Iran lakini bado ni imara kiasi anauwezo wa kutengeneza drone ambazo sasa hivi zipo zina wahenyesha.

Kwa maana nyingine vikwazo dhidi ya Iran ni sera iliyo shindwa na ni upuuzi, sasa hivi hata watawala wa ghuba ambao walikuwa vikaragosi wa USA wameanza kuiona Marekani kama mbwa tu anaye bweka na wameanza kumpuuza.

 

[Nkuba25]

Supa-pawa anakwama wapi ?

Kukwama kwenye Jambo gani?

 

[Choosen85]

Mwanzoni walisema Urusi ikiivamia Ukraine,haitavumikiwa, sasa hivi wamehamisha magoli.

 

[Bugucha]

Hujui vita...better keep quiet. Hujui sheria za kivita za kimataifa. Usifikiri hii Dunia you can do what you want just because u have power ama una makombora ya masafa marefu.

Unafikiri kwa nini Africa hainunui mafuta toka Urusi directly huku mrusi kashusha balaa?
Muulize M7 kwa nini hajakubali meli ishushe kwake ?

Mimi nakuuliza kuhusu vita,ww unaleta habari za biashara,ww ni mweupe kichwani aise,nimekugundua,sina mda na ww tena

 

[FUSO]

Kama wangekuwa wanaweza kuishi bila gas/oil from Russia basi haya maandamano yanayoendelea kwa Sasa across Europe yasingekuwepo.

Time !!

Baada ya miezi 3 utajua nina maana gani?

Rusia kashapotea...better Putin akubali yaishe mezani...I badala ya vitisho vya hovyo hovyo..I promise you.

Wengi humu hamjui namna Dunia yetu inavyoongozwa...ni ushabiki usio na maana

Putin will be fixed. Over.

 

[Imole]

Tatizo ma elites wanataka new world order, na hili suala kutokea lazma kuwepo na depopulation kutoka kwenye hiyo bilion 7 na ushee mpaka million 500, je kufanikisha hilo nikwanjia gani! Maana magonjwa feki kama ukimwi,ebola,covid,ushoga,vita na machafuko mbalimbali kila kona ya dunia bado hayaharakishi matokeo chanya wanayotaka ni kazi kwelikweli.

tupo kwenye uwanda siri sirini, wakutuokoa ni M/Mungu pekee

 

[Msulibasi]

NATO ni nini!?

Inashangaza sana hajui

 

[TensorFlow]

RUSSIA anaihitaji zaidi hii vita dhidi ya ukraine iendelee kuliko NATO wanavyoihitaji.

Putin ameshasema kuanzia sasa ukraine watashambuliwa kwa maguruneti ya kuulia mbwa mwitu badala ya iskander.

Russia ni wahuni sana, yaani wanakuchagulia aina ya kipigo kwa mujibu wa matendo yako.

Yeah, anaihitjai hapohapo anamtuma Rais wa Uturuki kutaka mazungumzo ya amani, anaishiwa silaha na kwenda kuokoteza NK na Iran, wanajeshi wake wanauawa, silaha zake zinatekwa, budget yake ya vita siku moja ni mabilioni wakati uchumi wake kwa sasa wa Spain ni mkubwa, anafanya mobilization vijana waende vitani badala yake wanakimbia nchi!

 

[ITR]

NATO hajatia mguu wowote kwa vita hii...ila wameuambia Umoja wa Mataifa juzi kwamba endapo Putin atathubutu kurusha nuclear yoyte basi wataingia full mziki.

Zile kura za UN za kutoyatambua majimbo aliyopora imempunguzia mzuka.

Kwa hiyo Nato ingekuwa haitumi silaha kwa Ukraine ingekuwa inapambana kwa kutumia mikuki sio?

Nato hii hii iliyo pigana miaka zaidi ya 20 na Talban wakashindwa kuiangamiza ndio watakuwa na uwezo wa kuliangamiza jeshi la Urusi?
Au Putin atakuwa amekaa chumbani huku akiangalia kwenye TV jeshi lake likiangamizwa huku yy akinywa kahawa na kucheka sio?

 

[Econometrician]

Afisa wa ngazi ya juu wa NATO amesema Jumatano kwamba endapo rais wa Russia itatumia silaha za nuclear, basi “atajibiwa kwa nguvu zinazostahili” kutoka kwa washirika wa Ukraine na ikiwezekana, muungano wa NATO.

Kwa threat IPI kutoka kwa Ukraine imfanye Russia atumie nuclear, hayo mambo ya nuclear mnaya promote nyie NATO.