Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Kokolo]

vita ya Nuclear ni lazima vitapiganwa tuendelee kuomba lisitokee katika kizazi chetu hiki, maana tutakuwa miongoni mwa wanadamu wa mfano kwa vizazi vijavyo na vilivyopita.

 

[Mathanzua]

Kremlin officials warn of guaranteed escalation to catastrophic World War 3​

14 OCTOBER 2022
After a NATO official said a Russian nuclear response would lead to the intervention of Ukraine's allies, Russia has once again warned that meddling from the West would spark World War 3.
Russia has warned the world that global carnage would ensue if Western allies of Ukraine continue to meddle in their conflict.
They said World War 3 would be sparked if the West continue to intervene and if a nuclear war was to occur, it would "be catastrophic for all mankind".
Should NATO approve Ukraine’s bid to join its organization, a top Kremlin official threatened global destruction.
Alexander Venediktov, the deputy secretary of Russia's Security Council said: “Kyiv is well aware that such a step would mean a guaranteed escalation to a World War 3".
Venediktov has insisted that the West are solely making threats of nuclear war
He claimed: “Russian officials have never voiced a threat to use any weapons of mass destruction.
“Meanwhile in Europe, some politicians openly call for such actions, even a number of politicians in the EU do not conceal and do not rule out the possibility of using weapons of mass destruction against Russia."
Venediktov took aim at Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, claiming his "actions and words" are "dictated" by other people.
He added: “It would be good for the West to realize that their protégé can take on so much that Washington and Brussels will have to think about how to deal with the consequences.
“We must remember: a nuclear conflict will affect absolutely the whole world, and not only Russia and the collective West, but in general any country on this planet.
“Its consequences will be catastrophic for all mankind."
Russian missiles struck more than 40 Ukrainian cities and towns on Thursday (October 13), leading to heavy destruction.
Drones also hit the region around Ukraine’s capital, which had avoided airstrikes until his week.

 

[FUSO]

Fashisti anazidi kupokea kichapo pande zote.., huku umoja wa mataifa..,huku front line..,hapa lazima mtu akili zimkae sawa,

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sasa warusi waishio Buza watakwambia kwani Umoja wa mataifa ni kitu gani?

UN wanawasumbua nchi maskini tu lakini siyo nchi kama RUSSIA mikoa ndio ivyo imeshaenda na aitorudi kamwe mmeshasahau gueterez alivyokuja apo KIEV na watu wakapiga bomu karibu na Hotel aliyofikia

Kwa hiyo unataka kutuaminisha kwambw Urusi regardless vikwazo vyote alivyowekewa anaweza kupigana vita hii miaka 5 hadi 10 bila uchumi wake kuyumba?

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Afisa wa ngazi ya juu wa NATO amesema Jumatano kwamba endapo rais wa Russia itatumia silaha za nuclear, basi “atajibiwa kwa nguvu zinazostahili” kutoka kwa washirika wa Ukraine na ikiwezekana, muungano wa NATO.

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NATO does not pose a threat to Russia and is not looking for confrontation, says the Pentagon chief.

The Alliance will simply hold strategic nuclear exercises Steadfast Noon next week at a distance of 600 miles from the Russian Federation.

14 NATO countries will take part in them. There are no plans to use real ammunition, the White House assures.

And yes, they, of course, have nothing to do with Ukraine.

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Kwa msaada wanaoutoa NATO kwa Ukraine kutokana na kipigo anachopigwa na Urusi.
Kama Urusi Ingekua ndio labda tuseme Uturuki,siku nyingi sana NATO wangeshatia timu.
Yugoslavia Serbia ilifanya anachokifanya Urusi,nakuambia NATO walikusanyana na kuipiga Serbia/Yugoslavia.
Yaani kwa jinsi huyo kamanda wa pentagon anayojihami kwa maneno,utaona ni jinsi Gani wanavyomuogopa Russia.
Waliosema Urusi sio Iraq pia Urusi sio Zimbabwe.

 

[FUSO]

Kremlin officials warn of guaranteed escalation to catastrophic World War 3​

14 OCTOBER 2022
After a NATO official said a Russian nuclear response would lead to the intervention of Ukraine's allies, Russia has once again warned that meddling from the West would spark World War 3.
Russia has warned the world that global carnage would ensue if Western allies of Ukraine continue to meddle in their conflict.
They said World War 3 would be sparked if the West continue to intervene and if a nuclear war was to occur, it would "be catastrophic for all mankind".
Should NATO approve Ukraine’s bid to join its organization, a top Kremlin official threatened global destruction.
Alexander Venediktov, the deputy secretary of Russia's Security Council said: “Kyiv is well aware that such a step would mean a guaranteed escalation to a World War 3".
Venediktov has insisted that the West are solely making threats of nuclear war
He claimed: “Russian officials have never voiced a threat to use any weapons of mass destruction.
“Meanwhile in Europe, some politicians openly call for such actions, even a number of politicians in the EU do not conceal and do not rule out the possibility of using weapons of mass destruction against Russia."
Venediktov took aim at Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, claiming his "actions and words" are "dictated" by other people.
He added: “It would be good for the West to realize that their protégé can take on so much that Washington and Brussels will have to think about how to deal with the consequences.
“We must remember: a nuclear conflict will affect absolutely the whole world, and not only Russia and the collective West, but in general any country on this planet.
“Its consequences will be catastrophic for all mankind."
Russian missiles struck more than 40 Ukrainian cities and towns on Thursday (October 13), leading to heavy destruction.
Drones also hit the region around Ukraine’s capital, which had avoided airstrikes until his week.

War 3 haipo; mchina si wa kutegemea...Mkorea kaskazini na vikombora vyake 2 anavyotamba navyo...mturuki anabanwa na NATO sababu ni member...haya nchi gani nyingime tishio upande wa Urusi? SA ? Au India ?

Mrusi hawezi kujiingiza kwemye nuclear war...anayajua madhara yake.

 

[Nkuba25]

SpaceX Tells U.S. Gov't it can no longer fund StarLink in Ukraine​

14 OCTOBER 2022
SpaceX corporation has informed the United States government that the company can no longer fund the StarLink services provided to Ukraine. Without Starlink, the Ukrainian army will have almost no way to reliably communicate with what's left of its battlefield troops, and would almost immediately collapse.
This comes days after Ukrainian Ambassador Melnyk Andrij told Musk to “JamiiForums' Community Engagement Guidelines | Mwongozo wa Ushiriki kwenye Mijadala off.”
To many observers, this is a two-fold matter:
1) Ukraine bashed the heck out of StarLink founder Elon Musk for daring to suggest a negotiated peace with Russia; so it is likely Musk has his nose out of joint over the insults, AND;
2) It likely costs almost nothing to fund the operation of Ukraine's Starlink services since all the satellites were already up and operating, so this is seen by many as a naked money grab; to get the US gov't to fork over more cash under the guise of "aid to Ukraine."
Either way, it seems to many that Musk wins. He either gets to shut off the people who took his help for granted, then bashed him publicly for suggesting peace, OR, he gets a ton of cash from the US government to continue providing service to Ukraine.

UPDATE 8:51 AM EDT -- Elon Musk suggests he is pulling Starlink from Ukraine because ambassador was rude.Nadhani majibu haya ya hovyo ni kwa sababu ya ngada.Hawa watu wanapakia ngada usiambiwe.

Mkuu

Kama umepata kufahamu, ni kwa Nini SpaceX wamekuwa wanatoa hii huduma ya Internet bure.

 

[FUSO]

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Kwa msaada wanaoutoa NATO kwa Ukraine kutokana na kipigo anachopigwa na Urusi.
Kama Urusi Ingekua ndio labda tuseme Uturuki,siku nyingi sana NATO wangeshatia timu.
Yugoslavia Serbia ilifanya anachokifanya Urusi,nakuambia NATO walikusanyana na kuipiga Serbia/Yugoslavia.
Yaani kwa jinsi huyo kamanda wa pentagon anayojihami kwa maneno,utaona ni jinsi Gani wanavyomuogopa Russia.
Waliosema Urusi sio Iraq pia Urusi sio Zimbabwe.

Mwambie arushe nuclear....

 

[Nkuba25]

sasa warusi waishio Buza watakwambia kwani Umoja wa mataifa ni kitu gani?

Kwa hiyo unataka kutuaminisha kwambw Urusi regardless vikwazo vyote alivyowekewa anaweza kupigana vita hii miaka 5 hadi 10 bila uchumi wake kuyumba?

Kabla ya kuulizia Mambo ya Russia, unapaswa kujiuliza, Je, US and Europe wanaweza kuendelea na hizo sanctions walizojiwekea kwa huo muda wa miaka 5?

 

[FUSO]

Kabla ya kuulizia Mambo ya Russia, unapaswa kujiuliza, Je, US and Europe wanaweza kuendelea na hizo sanctions walizojiwekea kwa huo muda wa miaka 5?

Ulaya inaweza ku exist bila gasi na mafuta ya urusi kama ulikuwa hujui. Hapa ndipo mnapojidanganya.

Kifupi Putin ajiandae kupigana vita ndefu, vita hii si ya leo wala kesho.

 

[Proved]

Aliyemwekea vikwazo IRANI NI USA tengeneza logic kama umevuka form two

Hueleweki

 

[Proved]

Iran ni mshirika wa karibu wa Russia.

Sio drones tu, hata infantrymen wakihitajika watakuja.

Je ni kitu gani kinakufanya uteseka kwa Iran na Russia kuwa na ushirikiano?

Supa-pawa anakwama wapi ?

 

[FUSO]

Nitajie candidates 3 wakubwa upande wa Urusi ..walio tayari kufa naye kama nuclear ikishaianzisha.

Mchina na India hawa usiwahesabu hakuna anayetaka kurudi nyuma kimaendeleo miaka 100.

Nitajie mwingine...au huyo dogo wa mapank ?

Putin ashayakanyaga.

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Hao NATO wana nguvu gani ya kumjibu Russia?!?! Hao NATO ni type ya Mandonga tu...wakianza tu kupiga ndiyo utakuwa mwisho wao....Mpaka Sasa nchi karibu 50 zinapambana na nchi moja....na wataanza kutumia kuni na mkaa....utadhani wapo Lushoto, Mufindi au Njombe...hopeless guys, and they are stupid too...

NATO Sasa hivi wamepoteza malengo Yao.
Ulikua ni umoja wa kujihami kwa Wanachama wao,lkn Sasa wanajaribu kuwahami mataifa ambayo sio Wanachama,lkn kwa bahati mbaya haya hilo taifa wanalolipigania wameshindwa kuingiza majeshi kamili kama walivyofanya Yugoslavia,Iraq, Libya na Afghanistan..

NATO Sasa hivi wanapigana vita vya kiuchumi na Urusi
Kwani kuiwekea vikwazo vya kiuchumi Urusi siio moja ya majukumu ya NATO.

Kuna vikwazo vya kidiplomasia,kisiasa na Kila vikwazo uchwara Urusi kawekewa na NATO.

Lkni kibaya zaidi aloewekewa vikwazo ana ishi vizuri TU,lkn waliomwekea vikwazo Leo hii kuna mgao wa umemefumuko wa Bei na uhaba wa nishati.

Hivi Sasa NATO haijulikani kama ni umoja wa kijeshi ama umoja wa kiuchumi.

Kuna hisia zinasema kwamba timu ikizidiwa sana uwanjani hutokea wakajihami sana,na wakijihamk sana hutokea timu ikajifunga goli.
Kwa kifupi timu hujifunga goli pale inaposhambuliwa sana.
NATO wanachezeshwa mziki na Urusi.

 

[FUSO]

Supa-pawa anakwama wapi ?

Supa pawa anapokopa vi drones toka Iran...inatia mashaka makubwa..

 

[Smart911]

Ngoja awanyoshe kidogo...

 

[Proved]

NATO Sasa hivi wanapigana vita vya kiuchumi na Urusi
Kwani kuiwekea vikwazo vya kiuchumi Urusi siio moja ya majukumu ya NATO.

EU, UK, Japan na US ndio wameweka vikwazo vya kiuchumi kwa Urusi sio NATO.

 

[FUSO]

NATO Sasa hivi wamepoteza malengo Yao.
Ulikua ni umoja wa kujihami kwa Wanachama wao,lkn Sasa wanajaribu kuwahami mataifa ambayo sio Wanachama,lkn kwa bahati mbaya haya hilo taifa wanalolipigania wameshindwa kuingiza majeshi kamili kama walivyofanya Yugoslavia,Iraq, Libya na Afghanistan..

NATO Sasa hivi wanapigana vita vya kiuchumi na Urusi
Kwani kuiwekea vikwazo vya kiuchumi Urusi siio moja ya majukumu ya NATO.

Kuna vikwazo vya kidiplomasia,kisiasa na Kila vikwazo uchwara Urusi kawekewa na NATO.

Lkni kibaya zaidi aloewekewa vikwazo ana ishi vizuri TU,lkn waliomwekea vikwazo Leo hii kuna mgao wa umemefumuko wa Bei na uhaba wa nishati.

Hivi Sasa NATO haijulikani kama ni umoja wa kijeshi ama umoja wa kiuchumi.

Kuna hisia zinasema kwamba timu ikizidiwa sana uwanjani hutokea wakajihami sana,na wakijihamk sana hutokea timu ikajifunga goli.
Kwa kifupi timu hujifunga goli pale inaposhambuliwa sana.
NATO wanachezeshwa mziki na Urusi.

NATO hajatia mguu wowote kwa vita hii...ila wameuambia Umoja wa Mataifa juzi kwamba endapo Putin atathubutu kurusha nuclear yoyte basi wataingia full mziki.

Zile kura za UN za kutoyatambua majimbo aliyopora imempunguzia mzuka.

 

[Bugucha]

Nitajie candidates 3 wakubwa upande wa Urusi ..walio tayari kufa naye kama nuclear ikishaianzisha.

Mchina na India hawa usiwahesabu hakuna anayetaka kurudi nyuma kimaendeleo miaka 100.

Nitajie mwingine...au huyo dogo wa mapank ?

Putin ashayakanyaga.

Unaposema Putin ameyakanyaga,unajua Kwanini Urusi ikiingia vitani? Nimeishakuuliza hili swali Ila hujibu mkuu.

 

[TensorFlow]

Russia's army would be "annihilated" by the West's military response if Vladimir Putin uses nuclear weapons against Ukraine, EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell has warned.

"Putin is saying he is not bluffing. Well, he cannot afford bluffing, and it has to be clear that the people supporting Ukraine and the European Union and the member states, and the United States and Nato are not bluffing either," Borrell said in Brussels.

"Any nuclear attack against Ukraine will create an answer, not a nuclear answer but such a powerful answer from the military side that the Russian army will be annihilated." -- Russia Invades UKraine - Page 15

FUSO HIMARS himaars

 

[ITR]

Alaf utasikia mtoto wa putin mmoja anakwambia mbona kule syria walishindwa .utafananisha hii combact na ya wale wavaa makobas .
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Hao wavaa kubanzi ndio alimtandika Marekani mpaka akakimbia Afghanistan.