Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Marekani na Uingereza zakutana kuzijadili drones za Muajemi zinazosumbua mno Ukraine

Vipi zile drones za USA zilizopigiwa promo na tukaaminishwa kuwa ndio silaha bora zaidi na ni game changers, zimeishia wapi?šŸ˜†šŸ˜†šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

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German industry lost ā‚¬10 billion due to anti-Russian sanctions.

German businessmen believe that their assets in Russia and Belarus will no longer generate income, writes Handelsblatt.

Only the energy company Uniper wrote off about ā‚¬2 billion due to the freezing of Nord Stream 2, and Siemens' losses amounted to ā‚¬1.1 billion.

Now another ā‚¬3 billion of Mercedes-Benz, which has production in Russia, and the assets of dozens of other companies are "in danger".

[emoji3502]3 months ago, the German government estimated the losses of the German industry at ā‚¬5 billion.

It is the anti-Russian sanctions that are forcing Western companies to leave the Russian market.

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[emoji635]"The national flag symbolizes traditional values, from which we will never deviate."

Vladimir Putin congratulated everyone on the Day of the Flag of Russia.

The National Flag, as well as the Red Banner of Victory, serve to educate the younger generation of patriotism, citizenship, responsibility for the future of the Motherland.

From September 1, the school week will begin in all schools of the country with the solemn raising of the flag.

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[emoji1134]Israel explained the refusal to transfer the Iron Dome and the Spike ATGM to Ukraine.

The technologies may fall into the hands of Russia, which will share them with Iran and Syria.

This was stated by Israeli military analyst Yigal Levin in an interview with Bild.

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umshana said:
Mii sijaona faida ya kijeshi jinsi Warusi wanavyotumia droni hizo. Je wewe umeona faida? Gani? Ukilinganisha idadi kubwa ya droni na matokeo?
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Brainwashed ndilo linalotutesa sana hatuna free thinking. Kwamba huoni zile drone zinavyodance kwenye anga la mashoga Kiev kabla hazijashambulia kwa ukali! Na tuliaminishwa kuna mitambo ya shoga mkuu marekani zinalinda anga la shoga mdogo Kiev
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[emoji1097]There is no work for Ukrainians in Estonia.

According to @BALTNEWS, by the beginning of this week, 5323 citizens of Ukraine are registered in the Unemployment Register.

Over the past 7 days, 338 refugees have been registered. 66 people were removed from the register. Of these, only 25 are as job seekers.

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Average Americans in New York City so ignorant that there's almost no hope for America.I believe the situation is worse for Tanzania!​

18 OCTOBER 2022
Average Americans in New York City: So Ignorant, there's almost no hope . . .

So, we all know there's a big military conflict between Russia and Ukraine, right? Typical Americans in NYC were asked to point to Ukraine on a map. Watch the level of intellect, education, and engagement of these "typical" Americans below.

With "typical" people this ignorant, there's almost no hope at all for this country.
It ought to be painfully clear to you that the public schools of this country have failed, dismally.The media has failed.
One need only watch the nightly news to see our society is failing by the day.
You know what? There's almost nothing left worth saving.
Maybe us getting nuked out of existence by Russia would be a merciful act.Why should we continue to exist if we are so dumb.
 

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[emoji1168]Releasing Marina Tauber to freedom for Sandu is "not comme il faut".

The deputy of the Parliament of Moldova from the Socialist Party Bogdan Tsyrdea commented on today's protests in Chisinau to @Sputnik.

Opposition MP Marina Tauber was taken today to the Appeals Chamber of Chisinau, where judges should consider the lawyers' request for her release from arrest.

However, in the best case, Tauber, following the example of ex-President Igor Dodon, will be under house arrest.

The task of the Moldovan authorities is to break the opposition forces that prevent the Sandu team from adopting a package of anti-Russian laws at an accelerated pace, following the example of Ukraine.

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Peskov: explosives on the Crimean Bridge could have been delivered by sea from Odessa.

Special services establish details.

Earlier, Vladimir Putin said that Russia would withdraw from the grain deal if the delivery of explosives for the terrorist attack on the Crimean Bridge along the maritime humanitarian corridor was confirmed.

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Russia says,there is no need for continued diplomatic presence in the West​

18 OCTOBER 2022 :
Russia: No Point to continued Diplomatic Presence in the West

In a shocking statement today, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said "Russia sees no point in maintaining diplomatic presence in the West."
He continued by saying ā€œIt makes no sense, and we have no desire to maintain the same presence in Western countries. Our people work in conditions that can hardly be called human. They face constant problems, threats of physical attacks.ā€
Lavrov went on to reveal "the Russian foreign ministry is currently carrying out a ā€œgeographical reorientationā€ of its activities both abroad and in the central office" suggesting a potential downgrade of Russiaā€™s diplomatic presence in the West.

Hal Turner Remarks
Will this be a pretext for quiet embassy evac before the nukes launch?
When Diplomacy is shut off, we all know what comes next.
You know, if the United States or its NATO allies had one shred of self-respect, or one grain of honor, this whole Ukraine thing would never have taken place. But the people running the United States Government seem to me to have no honor - at all. They gave assurances to Russia that NATO "would not move one inch eastward" then later did the exact thing they assured Russia would NOT be done. That set in motion DECADES of betrayal of Russia, which have no lead us to the brink of actual nuclear war.
Our assurance was given, and recorded in official US State Department Records, on February 9, 1990. A portion of those records appear below.
The long and short of it is this: At a meeting in Moscow between then US Secretary of State James Baker, then Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev, and then Soviet Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze, Baker spoke about the then-pending re-unification of East and West Germany. Baker expressly stated (Page 5):
"I want you to know one thing for certain: The president and I have made clear that we seek no unilateral advantage in this process."
On the very next page (Page 6), Baker explicitly stated:
"We understand the need for assurances to the countries in the east. If we maintain a presence in a Germany that is part of NATO, there would be no extension of NATO's jurisdiction for forces of NATO one inch to the east."
For all those ignorant morons cheering Ukraine, let me educate you with facts and evidence proving we in the west - and the government of Ukraine - are in the wrong. Here are the official US State Department records proving the United States assured the Soviet Union upon the re-unification of East and West Germany, "there would be no extension of NATO's jurisdiction for forces of NATO one inch to the east:"
Cover Page of Freedom of Information Act release, so you can see the file number at the bottom:

Page 5 of the release:
US-Memo-P-5-Baker-Gorbachev-Moscow-3.jpg

Page 6 of the release:
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OK, so there you have it. Official records from the US State Department. At this point, I would like to ask YOU, when you read that, how did you interpret NATO not moving "one inch to the east?"
For me, I took this to mean exactly what it said. No more eastward expansion. How about you?
Well, guess how the US government under the NEXT President, Bill Clinton, chose to interpret it.
The US Government chose to interpret it as applying ONLY INSIDE RE-UNIFIED GERMANY.
Under Clinton, the position of the United States became . . . the wider context of these assurances was not to expand NATO eastwards at all and that NATO should have stopped at eastern Germany. Sure, that was the context when the assurances were discussed. Yet no such assurances or promises were ever given, nor could they be given without consent of parliaments of NATO states. In western statesmanship you canā€™t bind a future government without an act of parliament (Congress, Senate or what have you) or a precedent by the supreme (Constitutional or what have you) court. Even if some sort of assurance was given to the Soviet Union or Russia, that assurance was only as good as the term of the executive that made it.
And that . . . that right there . . . is what set in motion the massive eastward expansion of NATO, right up to the border of Russia.
When Baker, Gorbachev, and Shevardnadze met, the nearest NATO base to Russia was 1200 miles away. As you sit wherever you are right now reading this, the nearest NATO base to St. Petersburg, Russia, is only 100 miles away. THAT's how close NATO has gotten to Russia.
It went like this:
Re-unified Germany became a NATO member in 1990, as discussed between the men named above.
In December of the next year, the Soviet Union dissolved itself on Christmas Day.
Since the big, bad, Soviet Union no longer existed, there was -factually - no longer a reason for NATO to exist. The reason NATO was created was to protect western Europe from Soviet Communism. That all ended on Christmas Day 1991, and NATO should have ended with it. It didn't.
Nine years later, under President Bill Clinton, our "assurances" against NATO expansion, went right out the window.
In 1999, NATO admitted former Soviet States Poland, the Czech Republic, and Hungary.
Then in 2004, under President George W. Bush, he undermined his own father's Presidential assurances, and NATO admitted former Soviet states Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Romania, and Bulgaria. (How's that for "honorable?")
With the admission of Estonia, NATO troops got onto bases only 100 miles from St. Petersburg, Russia.
Here's a map/timeline of NATO's expansion:

The Russians balked. Loudly. And that's when they were told, show us the Treaty or your claims have no merit. Right then and there, Russia found out that the word of a US President, was worthless.
And at the time, there wasn't much Russia could do about it. They were still repairing the damage of 70+ years of filthy Communist rule, and, by the way, still paying off the DEBTS of the former Soviet Union.
Bet you didn't know that about Russia, did you? RUSSIA HONORED ALL THE OLD SOVIET DEBTS.
Yet all that somehow wasn't good enough for the West. In 2009, NATO expanded again. In 2014, the West overthrew the democratically elected President of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovich, by financing and facilitating violent riots in the streets of Ukraine. When Yanukovich was overthrown, the US and EU financed the election of pro-western puppets in Ukraine, to bring Ukraine into NATO, so as to be able to put US missile defenses inside Ukraine.
Russia flatly refused to allow this to happen. Russia pointed out that US missiles in Ukraine would have about a five minute flight time to Moscow, and about a 7 to 10 minute flight time to Russia's nuclear missile silos. Russia made clear all the way back then, that Ukraine joining NATO was a "red line" for them that Russia would not tolerate.
NATO (The US and EU) ignored Russia. NATO expanded again in 2017, and formally began considering Ukraine and Georgia (to the south of Russia) in 2019.
Russia balked over and over, and was ignored.
In late December, 2021, Russia put forth a Treaty proposal to obtain iron clad, legally enforceable security guarantees. NATO laughed at the proposal and threw it in the trash.
Four days later, Russia delivered the same Treaty Proposal via Diplomatic Courier, to the White House, to #10 Downing Street in London, and to the Presidents/Prime Ministers of all NATO countries, making the exact same proposal but this time saying "If Russia cannot obtain iron clad, legally enforceable security guarantees via Diplomatic means, it will obtain them by military or military-technical means."
The US and NATO took about three weeks to respond, and when they did, the Treaty was again rejected out of hand, to the sounds of laughter.
About a month later, on February 24, 2022, Russia did exactly what they said they would do and began a Special Military Operation to De-militarize and de-Nazify Ukraine.
The West, stunned that Russia did exactly what they said they would do, erupted in a hissy fit, and started helping Ukraine. And the meddling of the West has now gotten us to the point, where we are literally ONE MISTAKE AWAY from actual nuclear war.
All this because we in the West did not honor our assurances, then commenced an aggressive campaign to literally surround Russia with NATO troops, bases, and missiles.
If you were the Russians, how would you feel? What would YOU do?
Diplomacy failed. Russia has no choice but to act militarily now, and it is all because we in the West lied, broke our word, and surrounded Russia with missiles.
Now, it may be only weeks until nuclear war destroys us all.
All for lack of honor. By us.
We are in the wrong here
 

Russia Destroys Satellite Uplink Station outside Odessa, Ukraine. All NATO gear is inside​

18 OCTOBER 2022

Russia has destroyed the Satellite Uplink Earth-station of the communications center of Ukraine.
To destroy it, a special operation was organized by the Russian Army. After first pinpointing its location, it was hit using high-precision weapons.
The destruction of this earth station - at least for the time being - has totally shut down Ukraine's secure government communications network, and has stopped the flow of NATO intelligence to Ukraine's government distribution network. Military planners are no longer able to get real-time intelligence via space satellite communications with NATO!
This creates extremely serious problems for the Ukrainian government to organize operations and secure communications.
"In the area of Palievka settlement, Odesa region, the communications space station of the Government Communications Center of Ukraine was destroyed, " the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation said during a routine briefing.
According to the Russians, ā€œ the consequences of the impact will be seen after the last pass by the Sentinel-2 and WorldView spacecraft.
Intelligence community information is that the earth station was fully outfitted with NATO secure communications gear, and all NATO targeting data passed to the Kiev regime through this center. Its destruction is a massive blow to the Ukrainians
 

UK Defense Secretary Ben Wallace takes "emergency trip" to US amid Nuclear war fears​

18 OCTOBER 2022
UK Defense Secretary Ben Wallace takes emergency trip to US amid Nuclear war fears

UK Defense Secretary Ben Wallace cancelled his appearance in front of the House of Commons Defense Committee on Tuesday and flew to the US for "emergency meetings" in the Pentagon and White House. The fact that he flew, rather than use secure communications, suggests the subject matter is actual nuclear war and they don't want comms intercepted.
Armed Forces Minister James Heappey said Mr. Wallace was meeting with his US counterpart for ā€œthe sort of conversations that [are] beyond belief really, the fact we are at a time when these sorts of conversations are necessary.ā€
A defense source said: ā€œThe Defense Secretary is in Washington DC to discuss shared security concerns, including Ukraine. ā€œHe will be visiting his counterpart at the Pentagon and senior figures at the White House
 
US May Sell More Oil Reserves This Week

President Joe Biden is considering selling off the remaining 14mn barrels of the federally mandated 180mn barrel sale from the US Strategic Petroleum Reserve this week in a bid to manipulate oil prices ahead of the midterms, sources claim.

The White House has also urged oil companies to sell an extra 26mn barrels to tackle high gas prices after OPEC+ pledged to cut production by 2mn barrels/day, despite Bidenā€™s pleas for the contrary.

The Department of Energy has already begun negotiations to buy back oil to restock the SPR through 2025, which now stands at its lowest levels in almost four decades.

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Mathanzua said:


Russia: "No Point" to continued Diplomatic Presence in the West​

18 OCTOBER 2022 :
Russia: No Point to continued Diplomatic Presence in the West

In a shocking statement today, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said "Russia sees no point in maintaining diplomatic presence in the West."
He continued by saying ā€œIt makes no sense, and we have no desire to maintain the same presence in Western countries. Our people work in conditions that can hardly be called human. They face constant problems, threats of physical attacks.ā€
Lavrov went on to reveal "the Russian foreign ministry is currently carrying out a ā€œgeographical reorientationā€ of its activities both abroad and in the central office" suggesting a potential downgrade of Russiaā€™s diplomatic presence in the West.

Hal Turner Remarks
Will this be a pretext for quiet embassy evac before the nukes launch?
When Diplomacy is shut off, we all know what comes next.
You know, if the United States or its NATO allies had one shred of self-respect, or one grain of honor, this whole Ukraine thing would never have taken place. But the people running the United States Government seem to me to have no honor - at all. They gave assurances to Russia that NATO "would not move one inch eastward" then later did the exact thing they assured Russia would NOT be done. That set in motion DECADES of betrayal of Russia, which have no lead us to the brink of actual nuclear war.
Our assurance was given, and recorded in official US State Department Records, on February 9, 1990. A portion of those records appear below.
The long and short of it is this: At a meeting in Moscow between then US Secretary of State James Baker, then Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev, and then Soviet Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze, Baker spoke about the then-pending re-unification of East and West Germany. Baker expressly stated (Page 5):
"I want you to know one thing for certain: The president and I have made clear that we seek no unilateral advantage in this process."
On the very next page (Page 6), Baker explicitly stated:
"We understand the need for assurances to the countries in the east. If we maintain a presence in a Germany that is part of NATO, there would be no extension of NATO's jurisdiction for forces of NATO one inch to the east."
For all those ignorant morons cheering Ukraine, let me educate you with facts and evidence proving we in the west - and the government of Ukraine - are in the wrong. Here are the official US State Department records proving the United States assured the Soviet Union upon the re-unification of East and West Germany, "there would be no extension of NATO's jurisdiction for forces of NATO one inch to the east:"
Cover Page of Freedom of Information Act release, so you can see the file number at the bottom:

Page 5 of the release:
US-Memo-P-5-Baker-Gorbachev-Moscow-3.jpg

Page 6 of the release:
US-Memo-P-6-Baker-Gorbachev-Moscow-2.jpg

OK, so there you have it. Official records from the US State Department. At this point, I would like to ask YOU, when you read that, how did you interpret NATO not moving "one inch to the east?"
For me, I took this to mean exactly what it said. No more eastward expansion. How about you?
Well, guess how the US government under the NEXT President, Bill Clinton, chose to interpret it.
The US Government chose to interpret it as applying ONLY INSIDE RE-UNIFIED GERMANY.
Under Clinton, the position of the United States became . . . the wider context of these assurances was not to expand NATO eastwards at all and that NATO should have stopped at eastern Germany. Sure, that was the context when the assurances were discussed. Yet no such assurances or promises were ever given, nor could they be given without consent of parliaments of NATO states. In western statesmanship you canā€™t bind a future government without an act of parliament (Congress, Senate or what have you) or a precedent by the supreme (Constitutional or what have you) court. Even if some sort of assurance was given to the Soviet Union or Russia, that assurance was only as good as the term of the executive that made it.
And that . . . that right there . . . is what set in motion the massive eastward expansion of NATO, right up to the border of Russia.
When Baker, Gorbachev, and Shevardnadze met, the nearest NATO base to Russia was 1200 miles away. As you sit wherever you are right now reading this, the nearest NATO base to St. Petersburg, Russia, is only 100 miles away. THAT's how close NATO has gotten to Russia.
It went like this:
Re-unified Germany became a NATO member in 1990, as discussed between the men named above.
In December of the next year, the Soviet Union dissolved itself on Christmas Day.
Since the big, bad, Soviet Union no longer existed, there was -factually - no longer a reason for NATO to exist. The reason NATO was created was to protect western Europe from Soviet Communism. That all ended on Christmas Day 1991, and NATO should have ended with it. It didn't.
Nine years later, under President Bill Clinton, our "assurances" against NATO expansion, went right out the window.
In 1999, NATO admitted former Soviet States Poland, the Czech Republic, and Hungary.
Then in 2004, under President George W. Bush, he undermined his own father's Presidential assurances, and NATO admitted former Soviet states Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Romania, and Bulgaria. (How's that for "honorable?")
With the admission of Estonia, NATO troops got onto bases only 100 miles from St. Petersburg, Russia.
Here's a map/timeline of NATO's expansion:

The Russians balked. Loudly. And that's when they were told, show us the Treaty or your claims have no merit. Right then and there, Russia found out that the word of a US President, was worthless.
And at the time, there wasn't much Russia could do about it. They were still repairing the damage of 70+ years of filthy Communist rule, and, by the way, still paying off the DEBTS of the former Soviet Union.
Bet you didn't know that about Russia, did you? RUSSIA HONORED ALL THE OLD SOVIET DEBTS.
Yet all that somehow wasn't good enough for the West. In 2009, NATO expanded again. In 2014, the West overthrew the democratically elected President of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovich, by financing and facilitating violent riots in the streets of Ukraine. When Yanukovich was overthrown, the US and EU financed the election of pro-western puppets in Ukraine, to bring Ukraine into NATO, so as to be able to put US missile defenses inside Ukraine.
Russia flatly refused to allow this to happen. Russia pointed out that US missiles in Ukraine would have about a five minute flight time to Moscow, and about a 7 to 10 minute flight time to Russia's nuclear missile silos. Russia made clear all the way back then, that Ukraine joining NATO was a "red line" for them that Russia would not tolerate.
NATO (The US and EU) ignored Russia. NATO expanded again in 2017, and formally began considering Ukraine and Georgia (to the south of Russia) in 2019.
Russia balked over and over, and was ignored.
In late December, 2021, Russia put forth a Treaty proposal to obtain iron clad, legally enforceable security guarantees. NATO laughed at the proposal and threw it in the trash.
Four days later, Russia delivered the same Treaty Proposal via Diplomatic Courier, to the White House, to #10 Downing Street in London, and to the Presidents/Prime Ministers of all NATO countries, making the exact same proposal but this time saying "If Russia cannot obtain iron clad, legally enforceable security guarantees via Diplomatic means, it will obtain them by military or military-technical means."
The US and NATO took about three weeks to respond, and when they did, the Treaty was again rejected out of hand, to the sounds of laughter.
About a month later, on February 24, 2022, Russia did exactly what they said they would do and began a Special Military Operation to De-militarize and de-Nazify Ukraine.
The West, stunned that Russia did exactly what they said they would do, erupted in a hissy fit, and started helping Ukraine. And the meddling of the West has now gotten us to the point, where we are literally ONE MISTAKE AWAY from actual nuclear war.
All this because we in the West did not honor our assurances, then commenced an aggressive campaign to literally surround Russia with NATO troops, bases, and missiles.
If you were the Russians, how would you feel? What would YOU do?
Diplomacy failed. Russia has no choice but to act militarily now, and it is all because we in the West lied, broke our word, and surrounded Russia with missiles.
Now, it may be only weeks until nuclear war destroys us all.
All for lack of honor. By us.
We are in the wrong here
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Ivi kwa clarification kama hii kutoka kwa humble Russian foreign minister LAVROVE kweli bado kuna mtu ataendelea kuilaumu Russia?

Kwa ustawi mpana wa mataifa Yao na watu wao, viongozi wamekaa mezani waka-draft mustakabali wa future yao wakaweka makubaliano na West wakatoa ahadi bila kushurutishwa kwamba hakuna hata sentimita moja itaongezeka kuelekea mashariki mwa German.

Kumbe mnawangā€™ongā€™a tu wenzenu wamewageuzia vichogo tu mkawazomea kwamba wajinga hawa tumefariji tu na watakoma. Dah., WESTERN,NATO,

Nilikua nawahurumia sana UKRAINIEN tena sana tu.

Sasa natamka rasmi ya kwamba ā€œkama usalama wa Russia, au kama ili Russia iendelee kutamalaki dunianiā€ itahitaji nchi nzima ya Ukraine kuangamizwa.

Bas nimetoa baraka Zangu kabisa NA IANGAMIZWE UKRAINE KWA USALAMA WA RUSSIA.

Tutakaotofautiana kimtizamo kwa hili nawasihi msipanic tafadhar, najua mtakuja mbio kuniuliza kwamba ā€œunatamka rasmi wewe kama nani, au unatoa baraka kama nani ā€œ

Nimekua msomaji wa muda mrefu sana humu records zinajieleza. Nafaham namna ya uchangiaji wa baadhi ya wajumbe wa humu, MATUSI na KEJERI ni vitu vidogo sana kwangu wala havisumbui
 
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