Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Axel Lloyd · Jan 3, 2023

ITR said:
Kwenye hivi vita ni ngumu kupata ukweli ni ngumu sana.

Mfano Ukraine ilitoa takwimu mwezi wa 11 eti tangu vita kuanza wanajeshi wake 10,000 tu ndo wameuwa ,wakaja kuumbuliwa na mkuu wa tume ya Ulaya baada ya kujikuta ameropoka kuwa wanajeshi zaidi 100,000 wa Ukraine wameuawa na 100,000 wengine wamejeruhiwa.
Urusi huyo ndo hatujui kabisa maana ni miezi sita mpaka sasa hawajatoa takwimu zozote.

Ila kamanda anaye ongoza kikosi kilichoko kwenye huo mji huo ulio shambuliwa naye ni bonge la fala aisee na anatakiwa kuwajibishwa ,hivi mko karibu na uwanja wa vita unaruhusuje watu wengi kiasi hicho wakusanyike sehemu moja eti kusherekea mwaka mpya?

Alafu walio uawa ni wale walio sajiliwa hivi karibuni ina maana walikuwa napelekwa kupata mafunzo huyu kamanda ni mpuuzi kabisa bora naye angekuwa miongoni mwa walio uawa.

Ni kweli hatuwezi pata takwimu sahihi.

Kwenye taarifa ya Ursula Europe walifafanua kwamba ilikua ikiakisi taarifa iliyotolewa na Pentagon kwamba Wanajeshi 100,000 wa Ukraine wameuawa. Ambapo kwenye taarifa hiyohiyo Pentagon walisema pia wanajeshi 100,000 wa Russia wameuawa.

Ukraine war: US estimates 200,000 military casualties on all sides.
The most senior US general estimates that around 100,000 Russian and 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed or injured in the war in Ukraine.
Ukraine war: US estimates 200,000 military casualties on all sides

Data ambazo Urusi ilitoa ilisema wanajeshi wake waliokufa vitani ni 6000.

Moscow's first update on casualty numbers in almost six months, Shoigu said 5,937 Russian soldiers had been killed since the start of the conflict.
Russia calls up 300,000 reservists, says 6,000 soldiers killed in Ukraine

Kwa tukio la juzi Urusi ni uzembe ndio ulifanya wanajeshi wao kufa kama kumbikumbi,hivi unawekaje wanajeshi wengi kiasi kile kwenye jengo moja pamoja na ammunitions?!

kp kipanya44 · Jan 3, 2023

Venus Star said:
Tunaanza sasa kazi
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Kumbe mlikuwa hamjaanza kazi?

Sawa,tunawasubir

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President of China · Jan 3, 2023

kp kipanya44 said:
Kumbe mlikuwa hamjaanza kazi?

Sawa,tunawasubir

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Kaa mkao wa kula. Tutakuletea mlo mzuri.

Axel Lloyd · Jan 3, 2023

Ukraine inazidi kuchanja mbuga [emoji23]

[emoji298]️The Svatove – Kreminna highway is controlled by the fire of the Armed Forces. In order to move between these cities, Russians are forced to make a detour through Starobilsk, — said the head of the Luhansk Regional Military Administration Serhii Haidai.

President of China · Jan 3, 2023

Tunaanzia Israel

🇷🇺🇮🇱Sergei Lavrov, during a telephone conversation with the Israeli Foreign Minister, expressed his readiness to work together to strengthen bilateral cooperation, the Russian Foreign Ministry said.

Axel Lloyd · Jan 3, 2023

[emoji298]️Germany is ready to use frozen Russian assets to restore Ukraine, if the allies do the same, and the resolution of legal issues is possible, — Bloomberg.

Axel Lloyd · Jan 3, 2023

[emoji298]️The USA and other Western countries are pressuring Switzerland over frozen Russian assets that could be used to rebuild Ukraine after the Russian invasion.

The Swiss publication Neue Zürcher Zeitung writes about it.

T14 Armata · Jan 3, 2023

Wazee wa kuitafuta Bahkmut mmeishia wapi. Miezi mitano yote bila bila

kp kipanya44 · Jan 3, 2023

Axel Lloyd said:
[emoji298]️Germany is ready to use frozen Russian assets to restore Ukraine, if the allies do the same, and the resolution of legal issues is possible, — Bloomberg.

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Urusi anajikaanga mwenyewe kama kitimoto [emoji28]
Watu wameshajua pa kutoa Hela za ku-restore Mali zote na miundombinu yote ya Ukraine iliyoharibiwa

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Proved · Jan 3, 2023

ITR said:
kamanda anaye ongoza kikosi kilichoko kwenye huo mji huo ulio shambuliwa naye ni bonge la fala

Axel Lloyd said:
Kwa tukio la juzi Urusi ni uzembe ndio ulifanya wanajeshi wao kufa kama kumbikumbi,hivi unawekaje wanajeshi wengi kiasi kile kwenye jengo moja pamoja na ammunitions?!

Sidhani kama ni uzembe, huenda ilikuwa siku mbaya kazini maana siku ya kufa nyani kila mti unajaa utelezi.

kp kipanya44 · Jan 3, 2023

T14 Armata said:
Wazee wa kuitafuta Bahkmut mmeishia wapi. Miezi mitano yote bila bilaView attachment 2468018

Pamoja na effort zilizowekezwa hapo bakhumut lakini jamaa ni kama hawaajambulia kitu [emoji28]

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mohamedidrisa789 · Jan 3, 2023

kp kipanya44 said:
Urusi anajikaanga mwenyewe kama kitimoto [emoji28]
Watu wameshajua pa kutoa Hela za ku-restore Mali zote na miundombinu yote ya Ukraine iliyoharibiwa

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Kwa jinsi ilivyo Ukraine kwa sasa.labda uchukue Urusi yote ndo unaweza kufidia hasara ila tofauti na hapo ni uwongo[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Axel Lloyd · Jan 3, 2023

T14 Armata said:
Wazee wa kuitafuta Bahkmut mmeishia wapi. Miezi mitano yote bila bilaView attachment 2468018

Kuna ProRussia nilimwambia haya Last week akaishia kunitukana [emoji23][emoji23]

ITR · Jan 3, 2023

Axel Lloyd said:
Ni kweli hatuwezi pata takwimu sahihi.

Kwenye taarifa ya Ursula Europe walifafanua kwamba ilikua ikiakisi taarifa iliyotolewa na Pentagon kwamba Wanajeshi 100,000 wa Ukraine wameuawa. Ambapo kwenye taarifa hiyohiyo Pentagon walisema pia wanajeshi 100,000 wa Russia wameuawa.

Ukraine war: US estimates 200,000 military casualties on all sides.
The most senior US general estimates that around 100,000 Russian and 100,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed or injured in the war in Ukraine.
Ukraine war: US estimates 200,000 military casualties on all sides

Data ambazo Urusi ilitoa ilisema wanajeshi wake waliokufa vitani ni 6000.

Moscow's first update on casualty numbers in almost six months, Shoigu said 5,937 Russian soldiers had been killed since the start of the conflict.
Russia calls up 300,000 reservists, says 6,000 soldiers killed in Ukraine

Kwa tukio la juzi Urusi ni uzembe ndio ulifanya wanajeshi wao kufa kama kumbikumbi,hivi unawekaje wanajeshi wengi kiasi kile kwenye jengo moja pamoja na ammunitions?!

Kamanda anaye ongoza vikosi vilivyoko kwenye huo mji ni mpumbavu sana.

Ukraine mwanzo wa vita nayo ilikuwa ikifanya makosa kama haya lakini walijifunza nadhani hata Urusi baada ya shambulizi hili akili itawakaa sawa.

ITR · Jan 3, 2023

Proved said:
Sidhani kama ni uzembe, huenda ilikuwa siku mbaya kazini maana siku ya kufa nyani kila mti unajaa utelezi.

Mkuu hata kama ss sio wanajeshi hii haiingii akilini kabisa huu ni uzembe mkubwa na kamanda wa eneo hilo anatakiwa kuwajibishwa.

kp kipanya44 · Jan 3, 2023

mohamedidrisa789 said:
Kwa jinsi ilivyo Ukraine kwa sasa.labda uchukue Urusi yote ndo unaweza kufidia hasara ila tofauti na hapo ni uwongo[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Japan ilipigwa nyukria lakini bado ikajengwa na Sasa inameremeta,sembuse Ukraine..,acha masihara bwana

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Mtoto wa nzi · Jan 3, 2023

Axel Lloyd said:
Mashambulizi yote yalifanyika usiku wa mwaka mpya,Ukraine wamekiri hilo Leo

Looks like the Ukrainian strike against Chulakivka was more significant than initially thought.

The Ukrainian General Staff reports that 500 Russian soldiers were killed or wounded in the strike on December 31st.

The mobilized Russians aren’t having it easy with HIMARS.

[emoji298]️ General Staff: On December 31, the Ukrainian Defense Forces inflicted fire damage on Russian troops and military equipment in the area of Chulakivka, Kherson region.

Russian casualties amounted to about 500 soldiers wounded and dead.

Wacha weeeehuku 500 kule 600.... Na wewe unajiona kabisa ni mtu mwenye ubongo na sio roboti!!?? Wajinga ni wengi sana hii nchi

Ziroseventytwo · Jan 3, 2023

Tukubaliane, kutokubaliana. Sisi proRussia, tumeelemewa kila kona kwa sasa. Eneo la propaganda hapa tumeshikwa sana. Kila mtandao wa kijamii, hawa maproUkraNato wanatukimbiza mbaya. Kwa hapa jukwaani kwa sasa huyu alex llyod, Ndio ameonekana kuwa wa moto.
Field. Huko taarifa za vifo na majeruhi kwa siku za karibuni zimekuwa sio nzuri masikioni na machoni kwetu. Russia wanapata hasara za mali na wanajeshi.

Kiuchumi. Hili eneo silielewi sana. Maana kwa mazingira yalivyo hapa siasa lazima ziingizwe. Mpaka sasa hali inaonyesha kuwa kuna refferundum ilifanyika kwa ile mikoa mi4. Lakini kwa mambo yalivyo, hayo maeneo russia hajaweza kuyashikilia kwa 100%.

Maoni yangu. Putin aangalie namna ya kumaliza hii kadhia.

Mtoto wa nzi · Jan 3, 2023

Ziroseventytwo said:
Tukubaliane, kutokubaliana. Sisi proRussia, tumeelemewa kila kona kwa sasa. Eneo la propaganda hapa tumeshikwa sana. Kila mtandao wa kijamii, hawa maproUkraNato wanatukimbiza mbaya. Kwa hapa jukwaani kwa sasa huyu alex llyod, Ndio ameonekana kuwa wa moto.
Field. Huko taarifa za vifo na majeruhi kwa siku za karibuni zimekuwa sio nzuri masikioni na machoni kwetu. Russia wanapata hasara za mali na wanajeshi.

Kiuchumi. Hili eneo silielewi sana. Maana kwa mazingira yalivyo hapa siasa lazima ziingizwe. Mpaka sasa hali inaonyesha kuwa kuna refferundum ilifanyika kwa ile mikoa mi4. Lakini kwa mambo yalivyo, hayo maeneo russia hajaweza kuyashikilia kwa 100%.

Maoni yangu. Putin aangalie namna ya kumaliza hii kadhia.

Southern Ossetia na Abhkazia ..walioleta mboyoyo hizi hizi... Crimea walileta hizihizi ..hata Finland waliandika na historia waijuayo wao Finland kushinda ambayo sio kweli uwanjani..... unashinda na unaachia eneo lako lichukuliwe na adui yako... Hayo madude yao wao wasemeee weeee ..... Watashtuka kumekucha mnoooo.

kp kipanya44 · Jan 3, 2023

Mtoto wa nzi said:
Southern Ossetia na Abhkazia ..walioleta mboyoyo hizi hizi... Crimea walileta hizihizi ..hata Finland waliandika na historia waijuayo wao Finland kushinda ambayo sio kweli uwanjani..... unashinda na unaachia eneo lako lichukuliwe na adui yako... Hayo madude yao wao wasemeee weeee ..... Watashtuka kumekucha mnoooo.

Hebu tuambie urusi alipigana mda gani kuyaiba hayo majimbo ya southern Ossetia na abhakazia( bila shaka hazizidi hata wiki 2)

Huko Crimea urusi hakupoteza askari hata mmoja ( kiufupi hakukuwa na mapigano yoyote)
Mifano uliyoitoa Haina utofauti na mtu anayejaribu kulinganisha sisimizi na tembo

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