Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

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MBULAMATALI said:
hii dhana ya kulinganisha badget...haina mantiki kabisa...,kwa uwezo wangu mdogo wa kuona..nadhani ukubwa wa budget ya US unatokana na mambo mengi...moja wapo ni kuhudumia Military Bases zaidi ya 700(kama sijakosea) zilizotapaa duniani kote..., hii point moja tu inabeba dhana nzima ya ukubwa wa hiyo budget,,, kingine ni ktk kutafuta ushawishi wa kijeshi duniani..Marekani anatumia fedha nyingi sana kutoa misaada ya kijeshi kwa Washirika ili aendelee kushikilia uongozi...,Marekani pia anatumia hela nyingi sana ktk kufadhili vikundi vya kigaidi....machafuko yote tunayoyaona Duniani kwa asilimia kubwa yana mkono wa Marekani..., to some up the story ni kuwa hiyo bajeti kubwa tunayoiona ya Marekani haiendi yote jeshini (kwa maana ya Military Personel Trainnings, New Tech Research, Production ya Equips, Intelligency, and so forth..)....huge part of it inaenda kwenye hizo angle nilizotaja hapo juu..
Narudia tena .
Convetionaly US hawezi jaribu kusimama na Russia...unapoongelea silaha...hv ni vita ipi Marekani amepigana unayoweza kuifananisha na hii ya Russia vs. Ukrein...?..may be Vietnam war..ambayo Vietnamese walisaidiwa na Soviet....na Marekani alibondwa mbaya yaani..hata hivyo Vietnam War is not comparable na hii SMO...kataa kubali West yote wapo hapo Ukrein ... wanatoa Silaha za kila aina..kubwa na ndogo..tunazotajiwa na nyingi ambazo hatutajiwi zote zinaenda hapo Ukrein kupambana na Russia...Mashirika yote makubwa ya Intelijensia duniani...tunayo yafahamu na mengine ya siri...yapo hapo Ukrein...lakini pamoja na yote Russia anawakimbiza.... na la kushangaza sana hapa 80% of the Russian Army ( kwa maana ya vifaa, silaha na Wanajeshi) hawashiriki hii vita... sasa hebu niambie ... Marekani ana nn cha ziada anachoweza kufanya kumpiga Mrusi..., nafahamu Marekani atakuwa na silaha ambazo mm na ww hatuzijui wala kuwahi kuzisikia...lakini sio Marekani tu hata Urusi anazo silaha nyingi ambazo hajazitumia kwenye hii SMO...

namalizia kwa kukusisitizia...hakuna kitu kinamuumiza US kama hii SMO... anadhalilika mnoooo!... Mataifa kibao yameshamuona ni wa kawaida na yy ana mbabe wake...angekuwa na a slightly chance ya kusimama na kumdefeat Russia ...asingepoteza muda...!!!


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Mkuu umeongea point. Hii SMO inawavua nguo sana West kama wamechanganyikiwa, kwa sasa hawana plan kabisa. Wamepeleka silaha kama zote ila uwanja bado umeinama wamepoteza zaisi $ 150billion ila wapi. Vikao kila siku ila ngoma bado weka vikwazo vya kila aina ila Russia bado anadunda.
 
MBULAMATALI said:
hii dhana ya kulinganisha badget...haina mantiki kabisa...,kwa uwezo wangu mdogo wa kuona..nadhani ukubwa wa budget ya US unatokana na mambo mengi...moja wapo ni kuhudumia Military Bases zaidi ya 700(kama sijakosea) zilizotapaa duniani kote..., hii point moja tu inabeba dhana nzima ya ukubwa wa hiyo budget,,, kingine ni ktk kutafuta ushawishi wa kijeshi duniani..Marekani anatumia fedha nyingi sana kutoa misaada ya kijeshi kwa Washirika ili aendelee kushikilia uongozi...,Marekani pia anatumia hela nyingi sana ktk kufadhili vikundi vya kigaidi....machafuko yote tunayoyaona Duniani kwa asilimia kubwa yana mkono wa Marekani..., to some up the story ni kuwa hiyo bajeti kubwa tunayoiona ya Marekani haiendi yote jeshini (kwa maana ya Military Personel Trainnings, New Tech Research, Production ya Equips, Intelligency, and so forth..)....huge part of it inaenda kwenye hizo angle nilizotaja hapo juu..
Narudia tena .
Convetionaly US hawezi jaribu kusimama na Russia...unapoongelea silaha...hv ni vita ipi Marekani amepigana unayoweza kuifananisha na hii ya Russia vs. Ukrein...?..may be Vietnam war..ambayo Vietnamese walisaidiwa na Soviet....na Marekani alibondwa mbaya yaani..hata hivyo Vietnam War is not comparable na hii SMO...kataa kubali West yote wapo hapo Ukrein ... wanatoa Silaha za kila aina..kubwa na ndogo..tunazotajiwa na nyingi ambazo hatutajiwi zote zinaenda hapo Ukrein kupambana na Russia...Mashirika yote makubwa ya Intelijensia duniani...tunayo yafahamu na mengine ya siri...yapo hapo Ukrein...lakini pamoja na yote Russia anawakimbiza.... na la kushangaza sana hapa 80% of the Russian Army ( kwa maana ya vifaa, silaha na Wanajeshi) hawashiriki hii vita... sasa hebu niambie ... Marekani ana nn cha ziada anachoweza kufanya kumpiga Mrusi..., nafahamu Marekani atakuwa na silaha ambazo mm na ww hatuzijui wala kuwahi kuzisikia...lakini sio Marekani tu hata Urusi anazo silaha nyingi ambazo hajazitumia kwenye hii SMO...

namalizia kwa kukusisitizia...hakuna kitu kinamuumiza US kama hii SMO... anadhalilika mnoooo!... Mataifa kibao yameshamuona ni wa kawaida na yy ana mbabe wake...angekuwa na a slightly chance ya kusimama na kumdefeat Russia ...asingepoteza muda...!!!


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Mkuu unasema kweli haisaidii kuweka tu jumla zote mbili kandokando.
Kama kwenye picha hiyo:
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Jinsi alivyosema mtazamaji mmoja: "Why Russia Gets More Bang for the Ruble"
(jisomee Why Russian Military Expenditure Is Much Higher Than Commonly Understood (As Is China’s) - War on the Rocks)
Ila ukifungua budgets hizo, unaweza kuanza kuliganisha kidogo. Matumizi ya US kwa "procurement" (ununuzi) peke yake ilikuwa bil. 140 (2010) hadi 97 (2013). Tena kiasi kinacholingana (takriban) kwa "Research, Development, Test, and Evaluation (RDT&E)". Hata ukiona Urusi inazalisha vitu nafuu zaidi, sioni kwamba inakaribia viwango hivyo. Tofauti ni ukubwa wa uchumi na hivyo uwezo wa kuwekeza (na kupoteza).

Sababu ya kutoona silaha bora za Kirusi kwenye uwanja itakuwa katika tofauti hiyo. Mfano kutoonekana kwa Armata 14, au ule mfumo wa kulinda vifaru unaoitwa Arena. Watazamaji wengi wa kimataifa waliona ni bora - lakini karibu hauonekani uwanjani.
Ila ukipendelea kuamini kwamba Urusi kwa sababu zake bado hakuchukua silaha zake bora (ilhali inatazama tu vifo vya askari na uharibifu wa vifaa) - basi si mantiki ninayoelewa.
 
Meckyrich said:
[emoji635][emoji631][emoji845]In the United States, they announced the growth of Putin's popularity. Many Americans see him as a hero who cares about his country and people, writes American Thinker.

“Many Americans are beginning to see Vladimir Putin as a hero, the kind of president they themselves would like to have.

Americans are beginning to see Putin as a man and a leader who cares about his country and his people much more diligently than our authorities care about us,” journalist Laura Wellington wrote in her article for American Thinker.

According to her, Putin is compared with the American leader Joe Biden, believing that the head of Russia is better.
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Hawa wanaomuona Putin hivi ni wamarekani wenyewe.
Lkn utakuta kijitu Cha Tanzania kinamuita Putin kichaa,Hana akili,mjinga,kibabu,kizee na Kila aina ya dharau.
Sasa Leo wamarekani wanamuona Putin ni shujaa na kiongozi mwenye uchungu na nchi yake mzalendo na Mlinda watu wake.
Kuna vijitu humu vya ajabu sana,viswahili vyenzetu.
 
MBULAMATALI said:
hii dhana ya kulinganisha badget...haina mantiki kabisa...,kwa uwezo wangu mdogo wa kuona..nadhani ukubwa wa budget ya US unatokana na mambo mengi...moja wapo ni kuhudumia Military Bases zaidi ya 700(kama sijakosea) zilizotapaa duniani kote..., hii point moja tu inabeba dhana nzima ya ukubwa wa hiyo budget,,, kingine ni ktk kutafuta ushawishi wa kijeshi duniani..Marekani anatumia fedha nyingi sana kutoa misaada ya kijeshi kwa Washirika ili aendelee kushikilia uongozi...,Marekani pia anatumia hela nyingi sana ktk kufadhili vikundi vya kigaidi....machafuko yote tunayoyaona Duniani kwa asilimia kubwa yana mkono wa Marekani..., to some up the story ni kuwa hiyo bajeti kubwa tunayoiona ya Marekani haiendi yote jeshini (kwa maana ya Military Personel Trainnings, New Tech Research, Production ya Equips, Intelligency, and so forth..)....huge part of it inaenda kwenye hizo angle nilizotaja hapo juu..
Narudia tena .
Convetionaly US hawezi jaribu kusimama na Russia...unapoongelea silaha...hv ni vita ipi Marekani amepigana unayoweza kuifananisha na hii ya Russia vs. Ukrein...?..may be Vietnam war..ambayo Vietnamese walisaidiwa na Soviet....na Marekani alibondwa mbaya yaani..hata hivyo Vietnam War is not comparable na hii SMO...kataa kubali West yote wapo hapo Ukrein ... wanatoa Silaha za kila aina..kubwa na ndogo..tunazotajiwa na nyingi ambazo hatutajiwi zote zinaenda hapo Ukrein kupambana na Russia...Mashirika yote makubwa ya Intelijensia duniani...tunayo yafahamu na mengine ya siri...yapo hapo Ukrein...lakini pamoja na yote Russia anawakimbiza.... na la kushangaza sana hapa 80% of the Russian Army ( kwa maana ya vifaa, silaha na Wanajeshi) hawashiriki hii vita... sasa hebu niambie ... Marekani ana nn cha ziada anachoweza kufanya kumpiga Mrusi..., nafahamu Marekani atakuwa na silaha ambazo mm na ww hatuzijui wala kuwahi kuzisikia...lakini sio Marekani tu hata Urusi anazo silaha nyingi ambazo hajazitumia kwenye hii SMO...

namalizia kwa kukusisitizia...hakuna kitu kinamuumiza US kama hii SMO... anadhalilika mnoooo!... Mataifa kibao yameshamuona ni wa kawaida na yy ana mbabe wake...angekuwa na a slightly chance ya kusimama na kumdefeat Russia ...asingepoteza muda...!!!


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Wewe jamaa una akili kuliko umri wako.
Uchambuzi sio tubwa kisomi huu,Bali wenye upeo mkubwa sana.
Kwa kifupi USA na NATO wametumia Kila. Njia walivyokua wanaijua ya kumdhoofisha Urusi lkn Urusi bado Iko fiti kabisa.
Unajua tabia ya kuongeza kitu maana yake like Cha mwanzo hakikutosha.
Namaanisha hivi,kitendo Cha kuongeza package ya silaha na vikwazo maana yake Ile ya mwanzo haikutosha .
Kwa hiyo west Sasa walichobakiza ni kumpa Ukraine nyukilia TU........................????????,

Pia kama Urusi angekua dhaifu kama vijamaa Fulani vinavyoaminishana humu Leo Urusi ingetawanywa kama Yugoslavia..
 
umshana said:
Mkuu kati ya nchi kama Urusi na Marekani sioni uwezekano wa vita ya kawaida; mara mmoja anapgwa vibaya anaweza kukimbilia silaha za nyuklia. Tishio hili ni sababu ya kutoona vita kati yao tangu 1945. - Kuhusu uwezo wa conventional: linganisha namba za budget ya kijeshi kila upande, na uwezo wa silaha zilizoonekana katika Ukraine hadi sasa. Tofauti ya uwezo ni sambamba na uwezo wa kiuchumi na kiteknolojia. Hadi leo tunaona watu wanaokaa foleni kwenye mipaka ya Marekani wakitaka kuingia, pamoja na vijana wasomi. Hatuoni foleni ya watu wanaojitahidi kuingia Urusi.
Nakubali kwamba athira ya Marekani itaendelea kupungua polepole. Ila si kwa sababu ya kupigwa katika vita hii. Hatuwezi kujua kama Ukraine ina uwezo kuendelea kwa muda mrefu. Ila kupungua kwa Marekani ni maendeleo ya nchi za kusini, China tayari, Uhindi inakuja sasa (wasipoanza kupigana kati yao). Amerika Kusini wako njiani pia. Afrika itafuata mara itaachana na viongozi wafisadi.
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Lini Afrika itaachana na viongozi mafisadi?
 
umshana said:
Mkuu unasema kweli haisaidii kuweka tu jumla zote mbili kandokando.
Kama kwenye picha hiyo:
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Jinsi alivyosema mtazamaji mmoja: "Why Russia Gets More Bang for the Ruble"
(jisomee Why Russian Military Expenditure Is Much Higher Than Commonly Understood (As Is China’s) - War on the Rocks)
Ila ukifungua budgets hizo, unaweza kuanza kuliganisha kidogo. Matumizi ya US kwa "procurement" (ununuzi) peke yake ilikuwa bil. 140 (2010) hadi 97 (2013). Tena kiasi kinacholingana (takriban) kwa "Research, Development, Test, and Evaluation (RDT&E)". Hata ukiona Urusi inazalisha vitu nafuu zaidi, sioni kwamba inakaribia viwango hivyo. Tofauti ni ukubwa wa uchumi na hivyo uwezo wa kuwekeza (na kupoteza).

Sababu ya kutoona silaha bora za Kirusi kwenye uwanja itakuwa katika tofauti hiyo. Mfano kutoonekana kwa Armata 14, au ule mfumo wa kulinda vifaru unaoitwa Arena. Watazamaji wengi wa kimataifa waliona ni bora - lakini karibu hauonekani uwanjani.
Ila ukipendelea kuamini kwamba Urusi kwa sababu zake bado hakuchukua silaha zake bora (ilhali inatazama tu vifo vya askari na uharibifu wa vifaa) - basi si mantiki ninayoelewa.
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Madhara ya kudanganya watu kwa mda mrefu, unaanza kujidanganya mpaka mwenyewe.
Ndio kilicho wakuta US na washirika wake.
Russia sio dhaifu, ilikuwa inajitafuta badaa ya kuanguka kwa USSR Na hiyo phase ishapita
 
Askari wa Ukraine Wanaojaribu ku

kimbia Bukhmut kupitia njia za vichochoroni wanapigika kuliko
🇺🇦 This is how retreating from Artyomovsk looks like now.

Small convoys get hunted with drones and hit with artillery.

Expect more footage like this in the coming days.
baada ya kipigo haya ndo matokeo yake
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Mwaka huu wazungu kazi wanayo, viongozi wao wanapashwa hadharani bila woga

◾Congo President shuts down Macron at a press conference, Macron tries to deflect but makes it even worst.

◾When someone tells you to stop patronising, don't fucking try to patronise the person right away! What a moron!

◾Follow:
t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses
 
They're trying to leave at night in small convoys of 6-7 vehicles but there is just no safe way out anymore. Now they need to hurry because around Wednesday the temperatures in Bakhmut will rise above freezing even at night and the dirt roads will dissolve into rivers of mud.


Ni rahisi ngamia kupita katika tundu la sindano kuliko mjeda wa Zele kutoroka Bakhmut.
 
umshana said:
Mkuu naomba tutumie akili ya wastani. Safari hii uwezekano mkubwa West watampiga Mrusi (kama Ukraine inaweza kuendelea, tutaona jinsi itakavyoendelea baada ya anguko la Bakhmut). Hawatapiga China, China ni muhimu mno kiuchumi (tofauti na Urusi).
Hakika West haitatawala dunia yote. Mambo yanabadilika polepole. Nchi za kusini zinasogea mbele. Tazama Asia! Ni Afrika tu inayojikwamisha kwa sasa, kwa kuvumuilia viongozi hao. Muhimu kutokubali unyama mtupu, jinsi walivyofanya Marekani huko Iraki (mara ya pili) na Urusi sasa Ukraine (na Georgia miaka iliyopita).
Maana tukianza kukubali mwenye nguvu kumlazimisha jirani mdogo - sijui mambo yatafikia wapi?
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[emoji23] mmeona hili Punga Kiswahili chake?

Alieligundua hili [emoji119][emoji119]

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matunduizi said:
They're trying to leave at night in small convoys of 6-7 vehicles but there is just no safe way out anymore. Now they need to hurry because around Wednesday the temperatures in Bakhmut will rise above freezing even at night and the dirt roads will dissolve into rivers of mud.


Ni rahisi ngamia kupita katika tundu la sindano kuliko mjeda wa Zele kutoroka Bakhmut.
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Wanafumuliwa vibaya mno.
 
umshana said:
Mkuu naomba tutumie akili ya wastani. Safari hii uwezekano mkubwa West watampiga Mrusi (kama Ukraine inaweza kuendelea, tutaona jinsi itakavyoendelea baada ya anguko la Bakhmut). Hawatapiga China, China ni muhimu mno kiuchumi (tofauti na Urusi).
Hakika West haitatawala dunia yote. Mambo yanabadilika polepole. Nchi za kusini zinasogea mbele. Tazama Asia! Ni Afrika tu inayojikwamisha kwa sasa, kwa kuvumuilia viongozi hao. Muhimu kutokubali unyama mtupu, jinsi walivyofanya Marekani huko Iraki (mara ya pili) na Urusi sasa Ukraine (na Georgia miaka iliyopita).
Maana tukianza kukubali mwenye nguvu kumlazimisha jirani mdogo - sijui mambo yatafikia wapi?
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Huu unyama mngekuwa mnauona.bila upendeleo-dunia ingekuwa nahali salama....West wanafanya ujinga mwingi na unyama juu watu wote kimya, mbaya zaidi wanajaribu kutumia nchi nyingine kwa maslahi yao...Russia kawanyoosha..na hakuna watakachomfanya na dunia imechoka ubabe wa west.
Trust me...west hawawezi na hawatathubutu kuingia kwenye direct war with Russia, Ukraine itashindwa, Russia itaendelea kuwepo pale na itawasumbua mpaka mwisho w dahari

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ndammu said:
Kuswahili chake kina nini?

Makosa ya uandishi hayawezi kujitokeza?

Upunga wake ni upi?

Wewe upo kikamilifu katika lugha ya kiswahili?
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Ni kiswahili cha Google.
Kaja kupigania Legacy ya mashoga.

Hiyo ndio tafsiri kamili.
Ni mfuasi, kaja kwa kazi maalum, anajifanya kushauri kwamba Africa tukiachana na viongozi mafisadi tutafika mbali.

Wakati huohuo, wao (West) ndio wafadhili wakubwa wa machafuko kwa nchi zinazoongozwa na viongozi waadilifu na wasiopenda ufisadi.

Anajikosha tu ili aonekane sio mlowezi.
Ni Punga kama mapunga mengine ya West.
MiNato kweli nyie.

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