Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

T14 Armata said:

Typo ni kawaida wasio na hoja ndio huikomalia, nimekukosoa hapo naona kama autocorrect yako umeikaririsha kimakosa inarudia hivohivo.

Hakuna sehemu nimesema Urusi ilimtapeli Mhindi, ni kwamba Mhindi aliona capabilities zilizotajwa kwenye makaratasi sio hizo zinazojitokeza kwenye development. Mpaka leo Su-57 haina injini yake ya Izdeliye 30 inatumia AL-41F1 injini ya Flanker. Sasa injini hamna kisha mnaleta mbwembwe humu mnasema ndege ni superior. Hamjui stealth jet inahitaji injini yake maalum?

Na kwenye tukio la pale airbase umeongea vizuri sana, tatizo sio kuona ndege tatizo ni kuifanyia engagement. Russia inazo radars zinazoweza ona F-35 ikiwa almost 60km (data rasmi ni za siri ila kwa muda mrefu nimekuwa nikisoma hii claim). Hapo ni kulingana na radar cross section ya F-35 ambayo inasemekana ni kubwa kidogo kuliko F-22 ila ndogo maradufu kuliko Su-57.

Umemsema kunguru ila bado mkubwa huyo, ujue kuna radar zina uwezo wa kutambua matone ya maji angani. Tatizo searching radar na engagement radar ni tofauti kwenye wavelength na frequency. Kwahiyo unaiona F-35 na ground based radar ikiwa within 60km wakati yenyewe ina stand off missiles za range ya 100km+ sasa utaifanyaje?

F-35 kwa ukubwa wake kwenye radar inakuwa inazidiwa na kimpira cha tennis, ukirusha kile kimpira angani na F-35 ikapita hapo kitaonekana kuliko yenyewe. Uwezo wa radar unakuja kwenye processing hapo ni kompyuta ambazo Russia huwa yuko nyuma siku zote.
Unaiona ni target angani ila huna engagement radar ya kutoa guide accurately matokeo yake unafyatua missiles ovyo zinalipuka mita nyingi mbali na target, unatumia mbinu ya Urusi ya siku zote ya kutuma salvo unakuwa depleted with interceptors.

Kwanza hayo yote ya nini wakati AEW za Marekani zinasimama hundreds of km away zinascan radar emissions kisha 4th gen. fighters zinakuja na HARM missiles zinaondoa AD systems. Na bado kuna successor wa HARM ni AARGM yenye range kubwa zaidi na software nzuri. Kazi ya HARM si umeiona Ukraine? Sasa hao hawana ndege za kuitumia ipasavyo na wamepewa vikombora kidogo waringishie.

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Hongera chief...you seem to be very informed kwenye hii field..uko vizuri tuendelee na mjadala. Nitajibu hoja chache na kukaa pembeni kabla wadau hawaja tuattack kwa kutoka nje ya dhima kuu ya huu uzi.. kujua mkong'oto unaoendelea kule Ukraine.

The indians withdrawal from the program Was made pre maturely. Ofcourse na demands zao zilikuwa nyingi sana as we know the Indians. Wangesubiri mpka prototype itoke na iwe tested ndipo wafanye maamuzi.

Kwa technology ya sasa ambayo dunia inapunguza manned aircrafts, wao the indians wanataka kuwa na two seaters version, mbali na iyo wanataka the aircraft iwe capable kutumia indian made missiles na kucommunicate na other indian made aircrafts ambazo in reality zinatumia architect tofauti kabisa kimuundo hata na kimfumo.

Mrusi ni heri amliamua kuachana nao, maana bila hivyo hii project ingekuwa na delays nyingi ambazo hazina maana mradi tu kumfurahisha mhindi. Atengeneze yake itakayoendana na mahitaji yake.

Issue ya engine iko very challenging. Ni lazma uchague moja, kati ya manuvability au stealthy.

Hapa mmrekani kwa f22 aliamua kuchagua stealthy ..akaunda f22 ambayo kujigeuza angani ni kizungumkuti kwa vile engine nozzles zake can only flip up and down.


Mrusi hesabu zake ziko tofauti, anahitaji stealthy ngoma ikiwa inakuja kwa mbele, ikisha kutungua hata ukiona signature kupitia engine hana shida, so ame balance stealthy kwa namna moja na manuvability kwa upande mwingine.

Hii engine ya flaker aliotupia humo ina 3D vectoring. Nozzles zake zinayumbishwa kuelekea nyuzi zote 360. Imeipa hii chuma manuvability isiyo ya kawaida. Inaweza hata kwepa missile ikija ovyo ovyo. So far inafanya kazi vizuri sana tu, mean while sasa akiwa jikoni kuunga engine ambayo itaachieve both, manuvability pamoja stealth at the same time.

This takes time, muhindi hakuwa na subira. Mwache aende.

Umezungumzia AEW za mmarekani kukusanya radar signals na kutuma anti radiation kuzimaliza. Chief, ujue tu kwamba in missiles technology Mrusi yuko mbali sana. Uwezo wa kuzishusha izi AEW za mmarekani hata zikiwa kwenye base zake pale florida anao, wala hata subiri mpaka zisogee karibu na mpaka wake kukusanya izo data. Na hiyo ndio sababu kwanini marekani hataki kuingia face to face na huyu jamaa.

Ginner said:

Hongera chief...you seem to be very informed kwenye hii field..uko vizuri tuendelee na mjadala. Nitajibu hoja chache na kukaa pembeni kabla wadau hawaja tuattack kwa kutoka nje ya dhima kuu ya huu uzi.. kujua mkong'oto unaoendelea kule Ukraine.

The indians withdrawal from the program Was made pre maturely. Ofcourse na demands zao zilikuwa nyingi sana as we know the Indians. Wangesubiri mpka prototype itoke na iwe tested ndipo wafanye maamuzi.

Kwa technology ya sasa ambayo dunia inapunguza manned aircrafts, wao the indians wanataka kuwa na two seaters version, mbali na iyo wanataka the aircraft iwe capable kutumia indian made missiles na kucommunicate na other indian made aircrafts ambazo in reality zinatumia architect tofauti kabisa kimuundo hata na kimfumo.

Mrusi ni heri amliamua kuachana nao, maana bila hivyo hii project ingekuwa na delays nyingi ambazo hazina maana mradi tu kumfurahisha mhindi. Atengeneze yake itakayoendana na mahitaji yake.

Issue ya engine iko very challenging. Ni lazma uchague moja, kati ya manuvability au stealthy.
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Hapa mmrekani kwa f22 aliamua kuchagua stealthy ..akaunda f22 ambayo kujigeuza angani ni kizungumkuti kwa vile engine nozzles zake can only flip up and down.


Mrusi hesabu zake ziko tofauti, anahitaji stealthy ngoma ikiwa inakuja kwa mbele, ikisha kutungua hata ukiona signature kupitia engine hana shida, so ame balance stealthy kwa namna moja na manuvability kwa upande mwingine.
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Hii engine ya flaker aliotupia humo ina 3D vectoring. Nozzles zake zinayumbishwa kuelekea nyuzi zote 360. Imeipa hii chuma manuvability isiyo ya kawaida. Inaweza hata kwepa missile ikija ovyo ovyo. So far inafanya kazi vizuri sana tu, mean while sasa akiwa jikoni kuunga engine ambayo itaachieve both, manuvability pamoja stealth at the same time.

This takes time, muhindi hakuwa na subira. Mwache aende.

Umezungumzia AEW za mmarekani kukusanya radar signals na kutuma anti radiation kuzimaliza. Chief, ujue tu kwamba in missiles technology Mrusi yuko mbali sana. Uwezo wa kuzishusha izi AEW za mmarekani hata zikiwa kwenye base zake pale florida anao, wala hata subiri mpaka zisogee karibu na mpaka wake kukusanya izo data. Na hiyo ndio sababu kwanini marekani hataki kuingia face to face na huyu jamaa.

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Bro uko vizuri sana.

kp kipanya44 said:

Pamoja na kwamba aljazeela ni pro Russia,Leo wamekiri wazi kwamba bakhumut imekuwa meat grinder kwa warusi [emoji28][emoji23][emoji16]View attachment 2544215

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Nan kakudanganya.....vyombo vingi vikubwa Duniani inamilikiwa na CIA + plus intelligence zingine

Mfano ingawa Al Jazeera ni ya kiarabu but inaweza kuwa Ina fadhiliwa CIA + other intelligence agency

⚡Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (10 March 2023)

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.

◽ In Kupyansk direction, the Zapad Group of Forces' artillery has hit enemy manpower close to Stelmakhovka (Lugansk People's Republic), Gryanikovka, Sinkovka, and Timkovka (Kharkov region).

💥 Up to 40 Ukrainian military and two motor vehicles were hit in this direction over the past 24 hours.

◽ In Krasny Liman direction, Missile Troops and Artillery of the 'Tsentr' Group of Forces have inflicted fire damage on enemy units close to Ampolovka, Krasny Liman, Grigorovka (Donetsk People's Republic) and Chervonaya Dibrova (Lugansk People's Republic).

💥 The enemy's losses in this direction during the day amounted to 120 Ukrainian troops, two pickup trucks, a D-30 howitzer, and one US-made M777 artillery system.

◽ In Donetsk direction, more than 120 Ukrainian troops, seven armoured fighting vehicles, three motor vehicles, a D-20 and D-30 howitzer, as well as a Gvozdika self-propelled artillery unit have been neutralised as part of active operations of the 'Yug' Group of Forces, air strikes, and artillery fire.

◽ In South Donetsk and Zaporozhye districts, Operational-Tactical and Army aviation and artillery of the 'Vostok' Group of Forces carried out a complex shelling of AFU units in the areas of Ugledar (Donetsk People's Republic), Gulyaipole, Preobrazhenka and Shcherbaki (Zaporozhye region).

💥 More than 50 Ukrainian servicemen, one tank, three pick-up trucks, and a D-30 howitzer have been destroyed during the day.

◽ In Kherson direction, up to 20 Ukrainian servicemen, four vehicles, and a Gvozdika self-propelled artillery unit have suffered casualties during the day as a result of the shelling.

💥 Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have neutralised 83 AFU artillery units at their firing positions, enemy's manpower and hardware in 127 areas during the day.

💥In addition, a Ukrainian S-300 anti-aircraft missile system was obliterated close to Petropavlovka (Donetsk People's Republic).

💥 Fighter aviation of Russian Aerospace Forces has shot down one Su-27 aircraft of Ukrainian Air Force near Maryinka (Donetsk People's Republic).

💥 During the day, air defence forces have shot down nine HIMARS MLRS shells and destroyed seven Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Sinkovka (Kharkov region), Rusin Yar, Stepnoye, Staromayorskoye, Vladimirovka, and Ugledar (Donetsk People's Republic), as well as Pologi (Zaporozhye region).

📊 In total, 400 airplanes and 218 helicopters, 3,373 unmanned aerial vehicles, 411 air defence missile systems, 8,249 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,055 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 4,315 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 8,830 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.

#MoD #Russia #Ukraine #report
@mod_russia_en

Nkuba25 said:

Kuhusu Geostationary Satellite. Satellite sio lazima ziwe stationary, kuna zingine zina move here and there. Kuna zingine kweli zina move kwenye parking orbit kama hizo Geostationary...

Ili utengeneze mfumo wa GPS unahitaji Satellites nyingi, wanasema kama 30. Ila kwa ufaham wangu, GPS is a civilian infrastructure. Kwa hiyo Satellites zake ni za civilian.

Mifumo ya kijeshi haitumii kabisa satellites za kiraia, wana satellites zao na namna zao za kupata picha/coordinates.

Kuhusu utambuzi... Kuna Military Analysts, Intelligence Analysts, ndio kazi zao hizo za kuweza kuchunguza hizo picha na ku make conclusions.

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Mkuu ko bongo bado sana ......[emoji23][emoji23]

kp kipanya44 said:

Pamoja na kwamba aljazeela ni pro Russia,Leo wamekiri wazi kwamba bakhumut imekuwa meat grinder kwa warusi [emoji28][emoji23][emoji16]View attachment 2544215

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Haijawahi kutokea AL Jazeera kuwa pro Russia hata siku Moja.

Tuache cheap propaganda

Nkuba25 said:

Kuhusu Geostationary Satellite. Satellite sio lazima ziwe stationary, kuna zingine zina move here and there. Kuna zingine kweli zina move kwenye parking orbit kama hizo Geostationary...

Ili utengeneze mfumo wa GPS unahitaji Satellites nyingi, wanasema kama 30. Ila kwa ufaham wangu, GPS is a civilian infrastructure. Kwa hiyo Satellites zake ni za civilian.

Mifumo ya kijeshi haitumii kabisa satellites za kiraia, wana satellites zao na namna zao za kupata picha/coordinates.

Kuhusu utambuzi... Kuna Military Analysts, Intelligence Analysts, ndio kazi zao hizo za kuweza kuchunguza hizo picha na ku make conclusions.

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Aya

kp kipanya44 said:

Mkiletewa video,hamchelewi kusema video game [emoji1787][emoji1787]

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Tunaziangaliaga ndio maana tunasema video gem

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Ginner said:

Nikujibu tu ndugu yangu umshana ili na wewe upate werevu. Usichanganye vitu viwili hapa.

1. VSTOL
2. VTOL
these are two different things. VSTOL maana yake ni vertical/Short take off and Landing. Hii maana yake ni kwamba, ndege hii inauwezo wa kutumia run way fupi sana kuweza kutake off ...less than 100m ikiwa iko loaded na mzigo wa silaha . Japo inauwezo wa kupaa wima endapo haina mzigo, maana engine zake haziko powerful enough kuinuka vertically ikiwa na mzigo. Kwa military aircraft kupaa wima bila silaha ni upuuzi. Unapaa kuelekea wapi kama huna silaha onboard.

VTOL maana yake ni vertical takeoff and landing. Hii haiitaki runway kabisa ili ipae. Na inapaa vertically ikiwa loaded na mzigo wa kutosha wa ammunitions na ikiwa combat ready. Ina very powerful engines kwaajili ya ilo zoezi. Iyo sasa ndo Yak 141 ya msoviet. VTOL technology is morr sophisticated compared na ya VSTOL.

Hoja ya pili kuhusu mwanahisabati wa Usoviet na baba wa Stealthy. Soviet haikutambua umuhimu wa theory za bwana Ufirmstev kwa vile stealthy technology sio kipaumbele kwenye military doctrine ya mrusi. Mrusi doctrine yake sio kuja kukushambulia kwa kujificha, yeye anatuna hypersonic missile ambayo mtaiona kwa macho, na kwenye radar mtaipiga na picha kama wanavyofanya waukraine na hamtaweza kuizuia. Alihitaji theories za aina hii, sio zile za kuja kwa kujificha

Mwisho tu niseme, limitations za stealthy aircrafts ni nyingi kuliko faida zake. Ziko poor in manuvability, inabeba mzigo mdogo sana kwneye internal bay, na mlango wa bay ikifunguka tu inaonekana hata na radar za hali ya hewa. Pia zinaweza kuwa detected with easy with ground based NEBO radar na kutuma chuma kuishusha.

Tujikumbushe kilichoikumba f117 ilivyotunguliwa na kombora ya begani kule Yugoslavia.

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Nachota maarifa mkuu💪

Nyonzo bin mvule said:

Nachota maarifa mkuu[emoji123]

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Somo limekamilika

Ukienda Israel na bendera ya Ukraine jiandae kulipa faini ya dola elfu tatu, ukirudia unakula kifungo.
🇮🇱🇺🇦 Israel banned the Ukrainian flag.
Local residents say that Israel has introduced a law against Ukrainian flags, on houses on the street, in all public places, a fine of 10,000 shekels (about $ 3,000).

@tarik_news

Basically the new law means that any kind of exposure of ukro flag is prohibited. The 1st violation will result in paying a fine. The second violation will result in criminal charge.

Russian mercenary Wagnergroup’s chief Yevgeny Prigozhinhas accused Vladimir Putin of cutting him off over his call for resupplying arms and ammunition in the grinding battle in eastern Ukraine.

“To get me to stop asking for ammunition, all the hotlines to offices, to departments etc have been cut off from me. But the real humdinger is that they’ve also blocked agencies from making decisions [related to Wagner],” the private Russian military’s leader said on Telegram.
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Vyuma bado vinaumana chini chini, , tusubiri tuone cheche.

Baada ya kuona mambo yanawaendea vibaya askari wa Ukraine waamua kulipua sanamu la Mig 17 ili kuzuia Wagner PMC wasipate kupigia hapo picha.

🚀The Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed the MiG-17 memorial aircraft in Bakhmut, in front of which the Ukrainian military and mercenaries liked to arrange photo shoots.

[emoji1103][emoji1255]Finnish Prime Minister Marin Sanna has arrived in Kyiv.

Sanne Marin has already met with President Volodymyr Zelensky. They honored the memory of the fallen Hero of Ukraine Dmytro "Da Vinci" Kotsyubailo, who is being mourned today at St Michael's Cathedral in Kyiv.

[emoji328]: Unian

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Proved said:

Russian mercenary Wagnergroup’s chief Yevgeny Prigozhinhas accused Vladimir Putin of cutting him off over his call for resupplying arms and ammunition in the grinding battle in eastern Ukraine.

“To get me to stop asking for ammunition, all the hotlines to offices, to departments etc have been cut off from me. But the real humdinger is that they’ve also blocked agencies from making decisions [related to Wagner],” the private Russian military’s leader said on Telegram.
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Vyuma bado vinaumana chini chini, , tusubiri tuone cheche.

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Hivi fundi anakujengea nyumba yako alafu unamnyima matofali kwa ajili ya kujenga hiyo nyumba yako??
Kuna kitu Kiko nyuma ya pazia kwenye hili saga,haiingii akilini kabisa!!

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[emoji187]Ukrainian forces will launch a counteroffensive after two months, Mykhaylo Podolyak, adviser to head of Ukrainian Presidential Office, said in an interview with La Stampa.

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[emoji636][emoji632]Rishi Sunak has arrived in Paris for the first UK-France summit in five years.

The French and British leaders intend to discuss a range of issues, including the war in Ukraine and rebuilding relations after Brexit.

[emoji328]: Twitter / Rishi Sunak

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[emoji1103] Finland will provide Ukraine with €29 million in humanitarian aid and development cooperation support, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Finland reported.

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