Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Waaacha we so na kile kilichokua kikifanyika Afghanistan kwa miaka 20 haikuwa Operation kama US wanavyodai bali vita kamili dhidi ya wavaa kobazi na mwamba kuambulia kamasi au sio 😉...

Dah nyie jamaa huwa nawapenda maana mna miakili mingi mno endeleeni kututoa tongo tongo sie tusiojua lolote
Mkuu ile ilikuwa ni operation ya kuwatafuta magaidi.. Kama unakumbuku wakati ule kulikuwa na wimbi kubwa la UGAIDI na wengi walikuwa wanatokea huko. Hapakuwepo maangamizi ya watu kiasi hichi. Narudia ile ilikuwa "Military Operation" na hii ya Putini alisema ni "Special Military Operation". Hizo ni operation mbili tofauti.
 
  • Russia has committed a wide-range of war crimes in Ukraine including wilful killings, systematic torture and the deportation of children, according to a report from a UN-backed inquiry published on Thursday.
  • The report by the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine was released a year to the day after the Russian bombing of a theatre in Ukraine’s south-eastern city of Mariupol that killed hundreds of people
  • Its head said the team was following the evidence and that there were “some aspects which may raise questions” about possible genocide.
Mkuu hongera kwa kutushushia hizi taarifa. Ni matumaini yangu kuwa, kama watasoma na kuelewa na kisha kuyatafakari yaliyomo kwa upewo mkubwa nadhani wenye uelewa wataelewa. Mkuu endelea kutupatia yanayojiri.
 
  • Russia has committed a wide-range of war crimes in Ukraine including wilful killings, systematic torture and the deportation of children, according to a report from a UN-backed inquiry published on Thursday.
  • The report by the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine was released a year to the day after the Russian bombing of a theatre in Ukraine’s south-eastern city of Mariupol that killed hundreds of people
  • Its head said the team was following the evidence and that there were “some aspects which may raise questions” about possible genocide.

Report ya Mauaji waliyofanya US & Allies huko Syria, Libya, Iraq and Afghanistani na yenyewe itatoka lini...?
 
Mkuu Cliff, mimi nawaona ni washabiki tu, mwenye akili hawezi kung'ang'ani jambo bila yeye kulitolea ukweli wake. Aidha fahamu kuwa humu tunapeana elimu pia. Nijitoe ili iweje? Mimi nakupa hoja inabidi na wewe kupinga hoja hiyo kwa hoja bora zaidi na si kubisha tu.. Mlikuwa mnasema Putin yupo peke yake; nikawaambia wapo wengi pia maana huo ni uwanja wa majaribio ya silaha zao.
Sawa bana wewe endelea nao TU.
Wape hoja mpaka watakuelewa.
 
Tumekekwisha wazoea hawa wanatumika kisiasa kutekeleza matakwa ya Merikani, wanacho sahau ni kwamba wana deal na a Super power not some banana Republic ambazo US imezoea kuzi- bulldoze.

Hizi indipendent international commission of inquiry mbona huwa hatuzisikii wakati US inavyo commit war Crimes in VietNam, Laos, Iraq, Syria, Yugoslavia na Libya?? Why double standard, wakishindwa malengo yao ya kutaka kuiangusha Urusi ndio wanakimbilia Umoja wa Mataifa kulazimisha mambo ya so called war crime - ulaghai mtupu tuanze na wao kwanza.
Mkuu ni vema tukajielimisha kidogo kuhusu vita. Mimi nadhani kwenye vita nako kuna sheria na kanuni zake. Sidhani kama upo vitani wewe ukawalenga raia na kuwamiminia risasi; ukabomoa miradi ya raia kama ya maji, umeme, kuchoma maghara ya nafaka na nnyumba za raia n.k. nadhani hii sio sahihi, ndio maana nchi nyingine zinakupigia kelele kuwa unachofanya sio kizuri, na pengine ukashitakiwa kwenye mahakama zao (UN).

Unatakiwa uwapige wanajeshi wenzako, piga maghara ya silaha zao, bomoa madaraja; kwa kifupi haribu vitu vya kijeshi na wanajeshi wao, na so vinginevyo.

Sawa bana wewe endelea nao TU.
Wape hoja mpaka watakuelewa.
Big-up Mkuu.
 
Mkuu ile ilikuwa ni operation ya kuwatafuta magaidi.. Kama unakumbuku wakati ule kulikuwa na wimbi kubwa la UGAIDI na wengi walikuwa wanatokea huko. Hapakuwepo maangamizi ya watu kiasi hichi. Narudia ile ilikuwa "Military Operation" na hii ya Putini alisema ni "Special Military Operation". Hizo ni operation mbili tofauti.
Sema nishastaafu majadiliano na watu mfano wako jamaa angu. Labda nikushauri kitu we kama Mtanzania mwenzangu, kwe kadamnasi ka hii jitahidi kila neno linalokutoka akilini liwe kwenye mpangilio na uwe na kumbu kumbu vile.

Ukiona kuna mmoja au wawil wame'qoute katika mawil matatu ulioandika basi jua kuna walio wengi zaidi wameona na wamekisoma kile ulicho andika na of course wakaamua kupuuza.

It's not like mevamia mjadala ulio kua nao ila basi tu niliamua kuku'quote ili ujue tunaona kile venye unaandika.

On your previous comment umedai hakuna operation ya kuchukua miaka... tumekupa mfano wa the so called Operation iliyochukua miaka 20 umerudi nyuma kutafuna maneno yako ya awali, ingawa ilichukua 20yrs yet umeamua kuiita Operation. So hapo kama sio mahabba kwa baba enu US basi inaonesha how lowly and poorly brain ako inavyochakata mambo.

Na ninasema siwezi kabiiisa kujadiliana na watu mfano wako si kwamba nakudharau la hasha... Tatizo Una lack specific point of reference, Your thoughts, Your way of thinking haina basics... You define vitu not based on facts ila just your lustful wishes.

In this world, the very little you know kwenye ulimwengu wa Geopolitics. Ila since ni haki yako kuzungumza no objection kwa hilo. But We do mind you! "HOJA NI HOJA, na IMANI NI IMANI..." it take just "kuambiwa tu" hivi na vile kua "Beliefs oriented" ila it takes time and dedication kukusanya a lot of data ili kua "facts oriented".

Na kwa sababu most of you ni wavivu, most of you mmeanza kuzijua za nje 24th Feb Last year mlivosikia Russia kaingia Ukraine... So hatuwalaum!

Haijalishi nn kile mnasema kujipa tabasam hewa... Waswahil tuna msemo wetu kua kelele za Chura hazimtishi Tembo kunywa maji. You are so called Umoja wa kujihami... Ka kikundi ka wale mnaowaita wababe wa dunia.

Kama kweli mna akili the way mnavyojinasibu, Mbona hamjiulizi kama kweli kinachoendelea Ukraine kinawakera na wana kilaani kweli kweli hao International Community, kwanini wasiende kama walivyoenda sehem zinginezo duniani to mention but few Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq na kwingineko wakamchape Putin mchezo uishe? Wanaogopa nn mzee?

So kama unaitizama Dunia hii kwenye TV na kwenye vijiwe vya kahawa pole sana mwamba. Na hizi habari za Masaaa kadha wa kadha mara imeenda ikarudi ni hoja ambazo kama kweli mko matured sio za kutoka kwenye vinywa vyenu. Zinawafaa watoto wa chekechea kulingishiana pipi na Biscuits.
 
Tumekekwisha wazoea hawa wanatumika kisiasa kutekeleza matakwa ya Merikani, wanacho sahau ni kwamba wana deal na a Super power not some banana Republic ambazo US imezoea kuzi- bulldoze.

Hizi indipendent international commission of inquiry mbona huwa hatuzisikii wakati US inavyo commit war Crimes in VietNam, Laos, Iraq, Syria, Yugoslavia na Libya?? Why double standard, wakishindwa malengo yao ya kutaka kuiangusha Urusi ndio wanakimbilia Umoja wa Mataifa kulazimisha mambo ya so called war crime - ulaghai mtupu tuanze na wao kwanza.
Kama wewe husikii labda sababu huna habari?
 
West warns Ukraine not to blow ‘last ditch effort’ – NYT

A New York Times story on Thursday suggested that the US and its allies are running out of ammunition for Ukraine, while Kiev is using up the troops and shells that will be needed for their planned spring offensive to fight for Artyomovsk instead.

Called Bakhmut by the Kiev authorities, Artyomovsk is now almost entirely surrounded by Russian forces. Ukrainian troops attempting to hold the town are running out of ammunition, the Times reported, with one brigade commander complaining of a “catastrophic shortage” of artillery shells.

Some US and EU officials now worry that Ukraine is using up thousands of shells a day in the battle for Artyomovsk at a pace that is “unsustainable” and “could jeopardize a planned springtime campaign,” which Kiev’s Western sponsors “hope will prove decisive,” according to the Times.

The Pentagon has reportedly even “raised concerns” with Kiev about this, warning Ukraine about “wasting ammunition.”
 
Umeshaambiwa Tabia ya kuchekacheka sio Tabia ya kiume, lakini naona umeshakuwa mraibu!

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  • Poland’s president, Andrzej Duda, has said his country will be handing over four MIG-29 planes to Ukraine in the coming days. Speaking at a news conference, Duda said Warsaw would hand over four of the Soviet-made warplanes in the coming days and that “the rest are being prepared, serviced”.His announcement makes Poland the first country to deliver fighter jets to Ukraine, marking a significant upward step in military backing for Kyiv
  • Poland’s decision to give Ukraine MiG-29 fighter jets is a “sovereign decision” that will not prompt President Joe Biden to supply Kyiv with American F-16 aircraft, the White House has said. Biden haspreviously said the US will not provide the F-16 fighter jets that Ukraine has sought in its fight against Russia. White House spokesperson John Kirby said on Thursday that President Duda’s announcement “doesn’t change our calculus with respect to F-16s”.

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Poland kashafungua njia, kama wengine watafuata siku zijazo muda utasema.
Dawa yake tayari ipo Ni kuzimwagia mafuta tu.
 
Alafu wakikaa kwenye media wanakwambia tumetungua missile 50 katika missile 65.
Wakati hapo missile 4 hakuna hata moja iliyotunguliwa.anga jeupe kabisa.zike anti air missile sijui zilikuja Ukraine kutalii[emoji635][emoji635][emoji635][emoji635][emoji635][emoji635][emoji635][emoji635][emoji635]

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