Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[jameshyela]

Kuna Patriot kiboko ya kinzhal,Wala hatuna wasiwasi

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Majibu yatapatikana tutaanza na huyo Patriotic.

 

[jameshyela]

Mkuu hizi silaha zinakuja kulingana na mahitaji, Ukraine baada vamizi kuvamia kwanza walianza kujihami kwa bunduki za mkono, baadae zikaja Stinjer na Javeline zikatamba sana mpaka vamizi akatimua zake Kyiv wanajesh kibao wa Russia wakapoteza maisha., sasa kadri ambavyo Russia wanakuja silaha kali na mahitaji ya silaha ya Ukraine ikawa yanaongezeka ndio mapaka kuja hizo kufikia hizo Patriotic systerms kwa sababu Urusi walitumia sana anga kuua watu Ukraine.,

Kumbuka vita haikuanza kwa drons Urusi ndio walikodi drons kutoka Iran ndio na wao wakabadilishiwa na kuletewa hizo Lopard tanks za kutungua na Patriotic system ni kwa hatua tu. Lakini hizi silaha zote bado kuna silaha kali na kubwa zaidi ambazo ata sisi hatuzijui kwa sababu nitakupa mfano nchi nying za ulaya wanaendelea kutoa silaha hizo hizo ambazo wewe unaona ni kubwa lakini zipo out of stock, Nchi kama Ujerumani, Finland, France nk zote wanatoa silaha ambazi hazina tena muda matumizi lakini zinawatesa Russia nafkiri unaskia huko Ukrain wanavyorejesha miji yao

Wewe Ni msemaji wa jeshi la Ukraine? Jeshi la Russia likiondoka Kiev si kwa nguvu ya jeshi la Ukraine Bali kwa makubaliano na mkataba uliofanyika na kusimamiwa na Turkey.

 

[jameshyela]

Mkuu hizi silaha zinakuja kulingana na mahitaji, Ukraine baada vamizi kuvamia kwanza walianza kujihami kwa bunduki za mkono, baadae zikaja Stinjer na Javeline zikatamba sana mpaka vamizi akatimua zake Kyiv wanajesh kibao wa Russia wakapoteza maisha., sasa kadri ambavyo Russia wanakuja silaha kali na mahitaji ya silaha ya Ukraine ikawa yanaongezeka ndio mapaka kuja hizo kufikia hizo Patriotic systerms kwa sababu Urusi walitumia sana anga kuua watu Ukraine.,

Kumbuka vita haikuanza kwa drons Urusi ndio walikodi drons kutoka Iran ndio na wao wakabadilishiwa na kuletewa hizo Lopard tanks za kutungua na Patriotic system ni kwa hatua tu. Lakini hizi silaha zote bado kuna silaha kali na kubwa zaidi ambazo ata sisi hatuzijui kwa sababu nitakupa mfano nchi nying za ulaya wanaendelea kutoa silaha hizo hizo ambazo wewe unaona ni kubwa lakini zipo out of stock, Nchi kama Ujerumani, Finland, France nk zote wanatoa silaha ambazi hazina tena muda matumizi lakini zinawatesa Russia nafkiri unaskia huko Ukrain wanavyorejesha miji yao

Unaweza kututajia hapa silaha Kali hizo za Russia? Maana mlisema anatumia tanks za enzi za usoviet na mlisema Hana silaha hebu zitaje tuone ukali wake ukilinganisha na zile NATO na US.

 

[TUJITEGEMEE]

city of Bakhmut

Leo ndiyo umekubali Artyomovsk umechuliwa? Pole

 

[Cash Generating Unit]

Unaweza kututajia hapa silaha Kali hizo za Russia? Maana mlisema anatumia tanks za enzi za usoviet na mlisema Hana silaha hebu zitaje tuone ukali wake ukilinganisha na zile NATO na US.

Akijibi ni-nitag maana nimemuuliza hilo swali hajajibu mpaka sasa.

 

[Proved]

Britain brings in laws to keep sanctions against Russia until compensation paid to Ukraine​

The UK has introduced legislation that will allow it to keep sanctions against Russia in place until Moscow pays compensation to Ukraine.

"As Ukraine continues to defend itself against Russia's invasion, the terrible impacts of Putin's war are clear. Ukraine's reconstruction needs are – and will be – immense," Foreign Secretary James Cleverly said.

"Through our new measures today, we’re strengthening the UK's sanctions approach, affirming that the UK is prepared to use sanctions to ensure Russia pays to repair the country it has so recklessly attacked," he added.
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Huyu Supa-pawa wa mchongo hachomoki safari hii, kabanwa mbavu pande zote.
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...d-putin-12541713?postid=6071717#liveblog-body

 

[Intuition]

Britain brings in laws to keep sanctions against Russia until compensation paid to Ukraine​

The UK has introduced legislation that will allow it to keep sanctions against Russia in place until Moscow pays compensation to Ukraine.

"As Ukraine continues to defend itself against Russia's invasion, the terrible impacts of Putin's war are clear. Ukraine's reconstruction needs are – and will be – immense," Foreign Secretary James Cleverly said.

"Through our new measures today, we’re strengthening the UK's sanctions approach, affirming that the UK is prepared to use sanctions to ensure Russia pays to repair the country it has so recklessly attacked," he added.
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Huyu Supa-pawa wa mchongo hachomoki safari hii, kabanwa mbavu pande zote.
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...d-putin-12541713?postid=6071717#liveblog-body

UK hana impact...aweke sanctions milele..tena anasaidia wezi wa Russia-Oligarch...wasiibe hizo hela na kupeleka UK-Ndo maana hata Putin alisema hawaonei huruma waliozuiliwa pesa zao hasahasa UK...badala ya kuzirudisha ndani- wao wanapeleka nje...hii ni loss kwa matajiri wa Urusi lkn ni advantage kwa Serikali ya Urusi na Putin mwenyewe...

 

[passioner255]

Britain brings in laws to keep sanctions against Russia until compensation paid to Ukraine​

The UK has introduced legislation that will allow it to keep sanctions against Russia in place until Moscow pays compensation to Ukraine.

"As Ukraine continues to defend itself against Russia's invasion, the terrible impacts of Putin's war are clear. Ukraine's reconstruction needs are – and will be – immense," Foreign Secretary James Cleverly said.

"Through our new measures today, we’re strengthening the UK's sanctions approach, affirming that the UK is prepared to use sanctions to ensure Russia pays to repair the country it has so recklessly attacked," he added.
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Huyu Supa-pawa wa mchongo hachomoki safari hii, kabanwa mbavu pande zote.
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...d-putin-12541713?postid=6071717#liveblog-body

Ni kichaa tu anayeweza kufikiri urusi anaweza kuzuiwa na NATO nzima

 

[Proved]

Putin amewakaribisha mpeleke F-16 ukraine!Ila kaweka wazi iwapo zitatumika kwenye combat halafu zinarudi base nje ya Ukraine basi zitachomewa huko huko!

Kama wanachama wa NATO wataamua kuzipeleka, zitaenda tu.
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Lockheed Martin 'ready to train Ukrainian pilots'​

Lockheed Martin has said it stands ready to help Ukrainian pilots fly and maintain its F-16 fighter jets.

The US defence manufacturer said that if NATO states agree to send its planes to help the country against Russian aggression, it will assist Kyiv's forces.

The Financial Times cited Lockheed Martin's chief operating officer Frank St John as making the statement.

Lockheed Martin makes numerous jets, including the F-16 Fighting Falcon, F-35 Lightning II and C130J Super Hercules.
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Matokeo ya hii counter offensive ambayo mpaka sasa ni mazuri, japo huenda matokeo yakachukua muda.

T14 Armata

 

[Proved]

Ni kichaa tu anayeweza kufikiri urusi anaweza kuzuiwa na NATO nzima

NATO ni kubwa sana kuzuia Urusi, ni sawa na kuua mbu kwa kutumia rungu, labda useme Ukraine.

 

[Mzee Ngonyani]

The Russians are becoming ingenious': Ukrainian officers see invaders making progress
From the province of Donetsk to Zaporizhzhia, soldiers and officers are drawing lessons from the start of the counter-offensive and its modest gains, while waiting for the launch of large-scale assaults.

By Rémy Ourdan(Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia (Ukraine) special correspondent)

 

[G4rpolitics]

Mkuu!si kwamba watu wanajari neutrality yangu,hapana!isipokuwa naweka wazi public watu wawe aware kuwa hata michango yangu haifungamani au hichagizwi na upande fulani,hiyo ndio nia haswa!
Mkuu nakosoa hoja yeyote kutoka kwa yeyote ninapoona inafaa!

Acha uongo unakosoa upa de wa Urusi, yaani hata haijifichi kujua upande wako!

 

[Al assad]

Taja Nchi ya NATO ambayo haijapeleka silaha Ukraine mbona unazunguka?

Mkuu!Zipo,kuna Hungary,Austria kuna Bulgaria,Romania,Luxenbourg nk.
Hata hivyo misaada waliyopeleka ni asilimia ndogo ya actual strength yao!

 

[Al assad]

Taja silaha kubwa kubwa ambazo NATO wanazo hazijaenda Ukraine.

Mkuu!Liko wazi kuwa ukraine hajapokea siraha za hatari kama;

Aviations-apache,suber cobra,F-22,F-35,F-16,B 52H,REAPER,PREDATOR DRONE,

Misille,atacm,long range ballistic missile and cruise missile(

ADs kama AEGIS ASHORE,THAAD nk

Naval assets-battle ship,frigates,destroyer nk.
Hizi ni baadhi tu ila kuna nyingi(nimejibu roughly na typically kulingana na swali lako)

 

[Al assad]

Unataka kusema leopard battle tanks Ni ndogo? Challenger, na abram Ni ndogo je MiG 29 Ni ndogo? Himars Ni ndogo? Unataka kuaminisha JF kuwa hata patriotic Ni silaha ndogo? Haupo serious Kama vipi jitoe kwenye huu Uzi.

Mkuu!Hizo siraha si ndogo ila zimepelekwa kwa kiwango kidogo.Patriots ad 3,challeger 14,leopard 100,abraham 30(not deployed till now),himars 30,
bado ni kidogo ukilinganisha na strength ya adui yake mwenye maelfu ya siraha za kila namna.

 

[Al assad]

Unaweza kututajia hapa silaha Kali hizo za Russia? Maana mlisema anatumia tanks za enzi za usoviet na mlisema Hana silaha hebu zitaje tuone ukali wake ukilinganisha na zile NATO na US.

Mkuu!Labda umesahau kuwa Urusi anatumia siraha za kisasa kama creselet rases air defence,S-400 triumph,pantsir ad,pia anatumi meli vita huko black sea kurusha makombora,pia anatumi SU-34,SU-35,MIG-31K kurusha hypersonic misille,
Pia anatumia makombora ya masafa marefu na yakisasa kama kh-22,zircon,kh-47 dagger,karibr,iskander missiles.pia anatumia vifaru vyakisasa kama T-90,T-80,T-72,BMP-3 IFV or APC.

 

[PD_Magumba]

Mkuu!Liko wazi kuwa ukraine hajapokea siraha za hatari kama;

Aviations-apache,suber cobra,F-22,F-35,F-16,B 52H,REAPER,PREDATOR DRONE,

Misille,atacm,long range ballistic missile and cruise missile(

ADs kama AEGIS ASHORE,THAAD nk

Naval assets-battle ship,frigates,destroyer nk.
Hizi ni baadhi tu ila kuna nyingi(nimejibu roughly na typically kulingana na swali lako)

Wambie wapeleke tu zikachomwe moto tena kwa remote tu ya Russia the living and real super power.

 

[PD_Magumba]

Mkuu!Labda umesahau kuwa Urusi anatumia siraha za kisasa kama creselet rases air defence,S-400 triumph,pantsir ad,pia anatumi meli vita huko black sea kurusha makombora,pia anatumi SU-34,SU-35,MIG-31K kurusha hypersonic misille,
Pia anatumia makombora ya masafa marefu na yakisasa kama kh-22,zircon,kh-47 dagger,karibr,iskander missiles.pia anatumia vifaru vyakisasa kama T-90,T-80,T-72,BMP-3 IFV or APC.

Kwa hiyo mabosi wako NATO ni waongo pale waliposema Russia anaishiwa na anatumia silaha za kizamani tena zenye ufanisi kidogo.

 

[Al assad]

Nimeeleza nadharia mbalimbali zilojitokeza baada ya kamanda wa majeshi ya Ukraine kukumbwa na madhila ya mashambulizi ya Russia.

Fuatilia uzuri kinoandikwa.

Mkuu!labda hujanielewa,mwanze ilisemekana Zelensky kampoteza baada ya kutofautiana katika namna ya kuendesha vita(hapa kabla ya mashambulizi ya Urusi)

Pili tukaambiwa kashambuliwa huko bhakmut na mwenzie skyisky(wote waliuawa) lakini skyisky ikabainika yupo anaendelea na kazi.

Tatu tukaambiwa kauwawa na makombora ya urusi huko KYIV,

Nne tukaambiwa kauwawa na mizinga ya urusi huko Kherson(baadae ikasemekana amejeruhiwa) ila akapost twitter yupo ofisini kwake akimyesha vidole viwili,
Tano Putin anasema yupo abroad anatibiwa!

Anyway kama ni nadharia basi sawa zinaweza kuwepo but hakuna uhakika.

 

[manning]

Ukiona huyu mama anakiri kuwa Urusi wanasonga mbele ujue kipigo wanachopata Ukraine ni kitakatifu

🇺🇦Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Malyar admits Russian forces actively advancing across Donetsk and Lugansk regions (ex-Ukraine).

Malyar insists Kiev’s forces can hold Russian troops back - but how long can they last against army which she states has "superiority in forces and means"?

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