Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Al assad]

Kwa hiyo mabosi wako NATO ni waongo pale waliposema Russia anaishiwa na anatumia silaha za kizamani tena zenye ufanisi kidogo.

Mkuu!Sorry NATO siyo mabosi wangu(rejea post zangu za awali)

Pia sijawahi kuamini propaganda(kama una ushahidi lete post yangu ikikubaliana ya hicho unachokisema) so siwezi jibia hilo.

Hoja hujibiwa kwa hoja na si viroja,be smart!

 

[Al assad]

Wambie wapeleke tu zikachomwe moto tena kwa remote tu ya Russia the living and real super power.

Mkuu!Jibu langu ni siraha hizi hazijapelekwa Ukraine.
Kuhusu kuchomwa si jibu langu hata hivyo hakuna siraha isiyoharibiwa vitani!

 

[jameshyela]

Mkuu!Labda umesahau kuwa Urusi anatumia siraha za kisasa kama creselet rases air defence,S-400 triumph,pantsir ad,pia anatumi meli vita huko black sea kurusha makombora,pia anatumi SU-34,SU-35,MIG-31K kurusha hypersonic misille,
Pia anatumia makombora ya masafa marefu na yakisasa kama kh-22,zircon,kh-47 dagger,karibr,iskander missiles.pia anatumia vifaru vyakisasa kama T-90,T-80,T-72,BMP-3 IFV or APC.

Kwahyo kwann mnabisha kwamba NATO hatumii vifaa vya kisasa Hapo Ukraine na vimetolewa nduki?

 

[jameshyela]

Ukiona huyu mama anakiri kuwa Urusi wanasonga mbele ujue kipigo wanachopata Ukraine ni kitakatifu

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[emoji1255]Ukrainian Deputy Defense Minister Malyar admits Russian forces actively advancing across Donetsk and Lugansk regions (ex-Ukraine).

Malyar insists Kiev’s forces can hold Russian troops back - but how long can they last against army which she states has "superiority in forces and means"?

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Kipigo kitakatifu.

 

[matunduizi]

To stop Ukrainian counteroffensive Russia deploys BAL coastal missile system to strike land targets​

 

[jameshyela]

Mkuu!Hizo siraha si ndogo ila zimepelekwa kwa kiwango kidogo.Patriots ad 3,challeger 14,leopard 100,abraham 30(not deployed till now),himars 30,
bado ni kidogo ukilinganisha na strength ya adui yake mwenye maelfu ya siraha za kila namna.

Na hizo kidogo elezea kwa kifupi kipigo kilicho zikuta hizo silaha.

 

[islander M]

Mkuu kwanza hakuna silaha za nyuklia Ukraine. Hakuna aliyetaka kuweka silaha za nyuklia Ukraine. Kinyume chake Ukraine kwa hiari yake ilikabiidhi silaha zake za nyuklia kwa Urusi. Urusi ikaahidi kuheshimu na kutetea mipaka ya Ukraine, ahadi iliyovunjwa na Putin mara nyingi.
Hadi leo NATO haikupeleka silaha za nyuklia hadi Poland, nchi za Baltiki au Romania. Wala Finland. Ukiona kinyume taja mahali na terehe.
Kinyume Urusi inatishatisha majirani.

turkey
german
italy....
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[umshana]

Sawa,vipi mkataba wa Urusi,NATO na Ukraine?

1. Unamaanisha mkataba gani? Tafadhali taja jina kamili, mwaka halafu mkataba unaowaza unahusu majadiliani vipi?

 

[umshana]

Ndio maana UN waliweka utaratibu!Mfano huko US,wangapi wanakufa kila mwaka over gun control?Kesho wengine waivamie US ili kuokoa raia wanaokufa,kuna uhalali hapo?
Wangapi wanakufa huko west bank?Hata mwandishi wa Aljazeera,raia wa marekani na palestine alipouwawa tena akiwa na jezi za Press,ilkuwaje?

Mkuu tulijadili hapa Yugoslavia na mauaji yaliyolengwa dhidi ya Waislamu wa huko.
Mfano wako wa US na vifo vya bunduki ni tofauti. Kama serikali ya Marakani ingeanzisha kampeni ya kuua tusema hao Latinos au kuvumilia mauaji ya Latinos mkononi mwa wanamigambo - basi hapa tungeweza kulinganisha.
Marekani hali ya silaha mkononi mwa watu raia ni kichaa kitupu - hata hivyo ni jambo lao la ndani.
Hata West Bank naona siasa mbaya ya kukamata ardhi ya Wapalestina na kunyima haki zao - lakini hakuna siasa ya kuwaua Waarabu au (hadi sasa) kuwafukuza. Idadi ya Waarabu chini ya utawala wa Israeli imeongezeka mwaka kwa mwaka.
Yugoslavia ilikuwa jambo tofauti sana.

 

[umshana]

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german
italy....
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Asante sana lwa kuthibitisha yale niliyoandika.
"Hadi leo NATO haikupeleka silaha za nyuklia hadi Poland, nchi za Baltiki au Romania. Wala Finland. Ukiona kinyume taja mahali na tarehe."
Ujerumani, Italia na uturuki silaha hizo zilikaa tangu siku za vita baridi. Wakati ule kwa sababu silaha za Kirusi zilikaa Ujerumani, Chekoslovakia, na kadhalika. Bado ziko mkoa wa Kaliningrad.

 

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U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced on June 19 that China had renewed promises not to send arms to Russia to fight in Ukraine, CNN reported from Blinken's visit to Beijing.

Although China has assured the U.S. it will not provide lethal aid to Russia, Blinken voiced concern at the actions of private Chinese firms.

Learn more: Blinken: China renewed promise not to send weapons to Russia

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[emoji298]Ukraine’s Digital Transformation Ministry is working on a resolution that will allow companies to obtain licenses for the production of UAV ammunition.


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[Kokolo]

Mkuu!Labda umesahau kuwa Urusi anatumia siraha za kisasa kama creselet rases air defence,S-400 triumph,pantsir ad,pia anatumi meli vita huko black sea kurusha makombora,pia anatumi SU-34,SU-35,MIG-31K kurusha hypersonic misille,
Pia anatumia makombora ya masafa marefu na yakisasa kama kh-22,zircon,kh-47 dagger,karibr,iskander missiles.pia anatumia vifaru vyakisasa kama T-90,T-80,T-72,BMP-3 IFV or APC.

Muda mzuri wa kutest hizo siraha.

 

[Bome-e]

Mkuu tulijadili hapa Yugoslavia na mauaji yaliyolengwa dhidi ya Waislamu wa huko.
Mfano wako wa US na vifo vya bunduki ni tofauti. Kama serikali ya Marakani ingeanzisha kampeni ya kuua tusema hao Latinos au kuvumilia mauaji ya Latinos mkononi mwa wanamigambo - basi hapa tungeweza kulinganisha.
Marekani hali ya silaha mkononi mwa watu raia ni kichaa kitupu - hata hivyo ni jambo lao la ndani.
Hata West Bank naona siasa mbaya ya kukamata ardhi ya Wapalestina na kunyima haki zao - lakini hakuna siasa ya kuwaua Waarabu au (hadi sasa) kuwafukuza. Idadi ya Waarabu chini ya utawala wa Israeli imeongezeka mwaka kwa mwaka.
Yugoslavia ilikuwa jambo tofauti sana.

Sasa wewe unaleta hisia wakati mimi nakwambia uvamizi wa NATO ulikuwa illegal under international law!Kama sheria hazifai zibafilishwe na sio kuwa abused na mataifa yenye nguvu!
US ni mshenzi haswaa!

Katharine Teresa Gun (née Harwood;[1] born 1974) is a British linguist who worked as a translator for the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ).[2] In 2003, she leaked top-secret information to The Observer concerning a request by the United States for compromising intelligence on diplomats from member states of the 2003 United Nations Security Council, who were due to vote on a second UN resolution on the prospective 2003 invasion of Iraq.[3]

 

[Kokolo]

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Mbona yeye anapeleka siraha Ukraine jinga kabisa

 

[jameshyela]

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced on June 19 that China had renewed promises not to send arms to Russia to fight in Ukraine, CNN reported from Blinken's visit to Beijing.

Although China has assured the U.S. it will not provide lethal aid to Russia, Blinken voiced concern at the actions of private Chinese firms.

Learn more: Blinken: China renewed promise not to send weapons to Russia

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Ameenda kuomba yaani nakazia hakuna Nchi yenye uoga hapa duniani Kama US Sasa anazani China angemjibu nn? Kwa majibu hayo tusubiri arudi kwanza halafu utasikia China inasema hatutaki kupangiwa nn tufanye.

 

[jameshyela]

Kipigo kwa silaha za LGBTQ
"Russian forces wipe out two Ukrainian artillery ammo depots near Zaporozhye city - Russian Politics & Diplomacy - TASS" Russian forces wipe out two Ukrainian artillery ammo depots near Zaporozhye city

 

[jameshyela]

Emirates President Mohammed bin Zayed during his tour with his Russian counterpart at the St. Petersburg Economic Forum: "We faced pressure from the West, but decided to cooperate with Russia."

 

[umshana]

Je,Russia angetazama jinsi hao Nazi wanavyoua watu huko Donbas!

Kama sheria za kimataifa zina kasoro basi zibadilishwe!Invasion of Yugoslav,Iraq etc was illegal under international law!

Mkuu hakuna dalili kwamba Nazi walilenga kuua watu wa Donbass. Sehemu kubwa ya Donbass ilikuwa chini ya mamlaka ya Ukraine hadi 2022. Hakuna dalili kwamba waliau raia wao.
Kwa bahati mbaya watu raia elfu 3000 hivi waliuawa kutokana na mapigano kati ya pande zote mbili kwenye maeneo ya Donbass.