Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

lee van cliff said:
😁😀😀😁😁🤣🤣🤣
Edward Snowden wameshindwa kwa sababu amekimbila sayari ya Jupiter ambako hawawezi kufika😁😀🤣🤣
Julian Assange alishindwa kusoma upepo ama alichelewa ama alishindwa kutoroka.😀😁🤣🤣
Snowden mpaka mwenyewe ajipeleke lkn huko aliko ni moto wa kuotea mbali.
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Jinsi majasusi wanavyo-operate, usikute Edward Snowden angali kwenye payroll ya CIA hadi kesho.
 
[emoji845][emoji635]🪖 SHOIGU: Ukraine has not achieved counteroffensive goals on any front;

Other statements from Sergei Shoigu:

[emoji3504]The Kiev regime, at the insistence of the West, demands that the command of the Armed Forces of #Ukraine continue to advance despite the losses

[emoji3504]Kiev attempts to compensate for military failures with terrorist shelling of civilian objects for propaganda purposes

[emoji3504]Russian Armed Forces are reducing the offensive potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine through effective strikes

[emoji3504]Russian air defense forces destroyed 158 HIMARS missiles, 25 Storm Shadow missiles, and 386 UAVs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in June;

[emoji3504]Command structures for the Moscow and Leningrad military districts are being established, weapons are being delivered, and personnel are being prepared;

[emoji3504]The A-50 airborne radars participating in the air defense system need to be upgraded for increased effectiveness. #Russia

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lee van cliff said:
Huu ujinga ambao USA amejitengenezea ndio maana sisi wapenda haki na amani tunaiunga mkono Urusi.
Kiukweli USA amejipa Kinga uchwara.huyo niliemjibu nikimjibu kama ujumbe.kua USA akifanya kosa popote duniani haguswi,lkn raia wa nchi dhaifu akifanya kosa nchi nyingine USA atatia presha akatwe na ashitakiwe ktk mahakama za kimataifa.hii haikubaliki hata kidogo.
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Utahafifu wa Fahili (Survival of the Fittest) and never the weakest (fukani), ndiyo kanuni dunia ambayo mwanadamu ameamua kujitungia, baada ya kumkataa na kumkana Muumbaji wake.

Matokeo ndiyo haya sasa.
 
kp kipanya44 said:
Ni mapema sana kusema counteroffensive imefeli.., lakini binafsi nilishindwa kuwaelewa Ukraine Pamoja na west kwa kutangaza ujio wa counteroffensive as if watatumia maroboti na mashine kuyafagia na kuwafukuza majeshi ya vamizi

Urusi pamoja na confidence na miguvu na milundo ya silaha aliyokuwa nayo mwanzoni mwa uvamizi ,bado hakudhubutu kuweka hadharani kwamba ataivamia Ukraine, badala yake alikana kabisa kwamba huo mpango Hana..,bila shaka alifanya hivi Ili kazi iwe rahis kwake, yahani amshtukze adui bila kujiandaa, ingawaje mwishowe malengo yake yaligonga mwamba,

Staki kuamini kwamba Ukraine na west Wana akili finyu kiasi Cha kutangaza ujio wa counteroffensive kama matangazo ya vifo, huenda pengine walikuwa na lengo lao nyuma ya pazia mbali na ukombozi wa ardhi iliyotwaliwa na wavamizi

Ninachoribu kukiona kwa mtazamo wangu ni kwamba,kwa kuwa hii vita Kuna watu hawataki iishe,basi walifanya Hivyo Ili urusi awekeze properties nyingi Ili kuzuia counteroffensive..,yahani urusi azidi kujikaanga kwa mafta yake kama kitimoto, lakini tusisahau kwamba Kuna watu wametenga bajeti ya kuendesha hii vita kwa takribani miaka mitano..,hii bajeti ingekuwa Haina maana kama Ukrainian counteroffensive ingeenda kwa spidi tuliyotarajia

Vinginevyo kama hayo mambo ni tofauti na mtazamo wangu hapo juu.., naweza kuwaona wote waliokuwa wakitangaza counteroffensive mithili ya matangazo ya vifo kama vilaza.., maana wamezidiwa hata akili na kp kipanya44 kutoka nanjilinji,

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Mdogo wangu kp kipanya44 Leo itakuwa umeanza kula alafu ndo ukavuta bangi,,,,
 
Nkuba25 said:
Jeshi la Russia ni jeshi lenye nguvu sana.
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Kuliko Wagner ?..mbona sasa limeshindwa kuvimaliza hivi Vita mpaka sasa ?

Nkuba25 said:
Kwa sababu NATO ndio waliomuingiza Ukraine kwenye hii Proxy war
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Kivipi tena ? Au kwa kumpa silaha ili ajitetee na kulinda utaifa wake?

Nkuba25 said:
Ukraine hakuwa na wala hana uwezo wa kupambana na Russia. Hii imepelekea vita kuelemea upande mmoja.
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Ila anapambana na huyo mvamizi mpaka sasa....
 
Proved said:
Kuliko Wagner ?..mbona sasa limeshindwa kuvimaliza hivi Vita mpaka sasa ?
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Mkuu Proved , siku ukiona ramani ya dunia imekuwa reviewed upya, na Ukraine haimomo 🙂 , then ujue vita hivyo sasa vimekaribia mwanzo wa awamu yake ya mwisho.

Hivi unadhani why Zelensky kahalalisha matumizi ya bange Ukraine? Sababu ni ile ile kwamba safari bado ndeefu sana kuliko mlivyotarajia. Surprise mliyopewa hamtokaa kamwe mwisahau.

Mark my words; naomba mods wanipe ulinzi wa kutosha.
 

Russian officials praise armed forces and security services for putting down Wagner rebellion​

From CNN’s Anna Chernova


Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu chairs a meeting with the leadership of the Armed Forces in Moscow, Russia, in this picture released on July 3.
Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu chairs a meeting with the leadership of the Armed Forces in Moscow, Russia, in this picture released on July 3. Russian Defence Ministry/Reuters

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu has commended the "loyalty" of the Russian Armed Forces for helping to stop an attempted rebellion by private mercenary group Wagner, as the Kremlin praised the security services for their role.

Speaking to the military on Monday, Shoigu said the rebellion was an "attempt to destabilize the situation in Russia," but that it had failed "primarily because the personnel of the Armed Forces showed loyalty to their oath and military duty.”

Russia glimpsed the threat of armed insurrection in late June, with Wagner Group mercenaries marching toward Moscow as President Vladimir Putin vowed retribution – all before a sudden deal seemed to defuse the crisis as rapidly as it had emerged.

In his first comments since the 24-hour mutiny, Shoigu added that “the provocation” had no impact on the actions of Russian troops in Ukraine, where the servicemen “courageously and selflessly continued to fulfil the tasks assigned to them.”

"I thank the (military) personnel for their dedicated service," the minister added.

The Kremlin also praised Russia's security agency for its role in putting down the attempted rebellion.

Speaking to journalists during a conference call Monday, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov commended the "effective functioning of the special services and government agencies, including the Federal Security Service (FSB)."

Peskov did not comment on the questions surrounding how and why such a mutiny could take place, but emphasized the effective fulfilment of duties by all services.

“All services, ministries, departments, special services are effectively carrying out their duties,” he said.

He added that Putin had expressed gratitude for the high level of unity and consolidation among the armed forces and special services during these “challenging days.”

The immediate risk of bloodshed appears to have dissipated, but much remains uncertain; experts warn that the rare uprising is still likely to have consequences down the line.

Putin must now navigate the aftermath of the most serious challenge to his authority since he came to power over 20 years ago, which appeared to have him on the back foot for a day and half.

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Huko ndio kunaitwa "kuvishana kilemba cha ukoka ?

Aliyefanya juhudi kuzima uasi wa Wagner ni Rais Lukashenko wa Belarus, hawa wanaosifiwa sasa wamefanya yapi ?
 
kp kipanya44 said:
Ni mapema sana kusema counteroffensive imefeli.., lakini binafsi nilishindwa kuwaelewa Ukraine Pamoja na west kwa kutangaza ujio wa counteroffensive as if watatumia maroboti na mashine kuyafagia na kuwafukuza majeshi ya vamizi

Urusi pamoja na confidence na miguvu na milundo ya silaha aliyokuwa nayo mwanzoni mwa uvamizi ,bado hakudhubutu kuweka hadharani kwamba ataivamia Ukraine, badala yake alikana kabisa kwamba huo mpango Hana..,bila shaka alifanya hivi Ili kazi iwe rahis kwake, yahani amshtukze adui bila kujiandaa, ingawaje mwishowe malengo yake yaligonga mwamba,

Staki kuamini kwamba Ukraine na west Wana akili finyu kiasi Cha kutangaza ujio wa counteroffensive kama matangazo ya vifo, huenda pengine walikuwa na lengo lao nyuma ya pazia mbali na ukombozi wa ardhi iliyotwaliwa na wavamizi

Ninachoribu kukiona kwa mtazamo wangu ni kwamba,kwa kuwa hii vita Kuna watu hawataki iishe,basi walifanya Hivyo Ili urusi awekeze properties nyingi Ili kuzuia counteroffensive..,yahani urusi azidi kujikaanga kwa mafta yake kama kitimoto, lakini tusisahau kwamba Kuna watu wametenga bajeti ya kuendesha hii vita kwa takribani miaka mitano..,hii bajeti ingekuwa Haina maana kama Ukrainian counteroffensive ingeenda kwa spidi tuliyotarajia

Vinginevyo kama hayo mambo ni tofauti na mtazamo wangu hapo juu.., naweza kuwaona wote waliokuwa wakitangaza counteroffensive mithili ya matangazo ya vifo kama vilaza.., maana wamezidiwa hata akili na kp kipanya44 kutoka nanjilinji,

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Daaaaah kumbe ukiacha mambo ya leo tumechinja wangapi, kichwa yako huwa inafikiri vzr tuu
 
Muuza Viat said:
TZ si kibom bali viongoz wetu ni wapiga vibom


Fatilia ziara zote za mkuu wa nchi anapoenda ktk nchi zilizotuzid kipato lazima apige vibom


Na hata bajeti yetu haitegemei kwa kiwango chote mapato tunayoingiza lazima tupige vibom
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Nchi imegeuzwa kama kahaba wa kimboka ...ndiyo tatizo la kuongozwa na wapumbavu
 
kp kipanya44 said:
Staki kuamini kwamba Ukraine na west Wana akili finyu kiasi Cha kutangaza ujio wa counteroffensive kama matangazo ya vifo, huenda pengine walikuwa na lengo lao nyuma ya pazia mbali na ukombozi wa ardhi iliyotwaliwa na wavamizi

Ninachoribu kukiona kwa mtazamo wangu ni kwamba,kwa kuwa hii vita Kuna watu hawataki iishe,basi walifanya Hivyo Ili urusi awekeze properties nyingi Ili kuzuia counteroffensive..,yahani urusi azidi kujikaanga kwa mafta yake kama kitimoto, lakini tusisahau kwamba Kuna watu wametenga bajeti ya kuendesha hii vita kwa takribani miaka mitano..,hii bajeti ingekuwa Haina maana kama Ukrainian counteroffensive ingeenda kwa spidi tuliyotarajia

Vinginevyo kama hayo mambo ni tofauti na mtazamo wangu hapo juu.., naweza kuwaona wote waliokuwa wakitangaza counteroffensive mithili ya matangazo ya vifo kama vilaza.., maana wamezidiwa hata akili na kp kipanya44 kutoka nanjilinji
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Mkuu kp kipanya44,

Habari za ndani kabisa nilizonazo kutoka Washngton na Kiev ni kwamba counteroffensive haijafanyika kabisa.
 
[emoji298]Ukraine's counteroffensive against Russian troops is difficult due to landmines and other obstacles, but Ukrainian troops are right to proceed cautiously, says Admiral Rob Bauer, Chairman of the NATO Military Committee

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[emoji298]In occupied Oleshky, Kherson region, only holders of Russian passports can receive hepatitis vaccine and 10,000 rubles. Oleshky mayor tells Ukrinform about the situation in the city.[emoji298]



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