Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Army General Surovikin's surprise public appearance generates more rumours about his fate

On September 4, a photo of Army General Surovikin appeared on the Internet. The photo showed Surovikin in plain clothes walking with his wife. The picture was published on Bloody Lady Telegram channel. The caption to the picture said that General Surovikin was in good health and that he was staying with his family in Moscow. The authors of the Bloody Lady Telegram channel, where the photo appeared, said that the picture was taken on September 4.

Sergei Surovikin has not made a public appearance for the last two months.

The same day, September 4, journalists asked Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu a question about Surovikin. In particular, they asked the minister what happened to Surovikin and whether an investigation was underway against him, Interfax reports.
 
Antony Blinken says Ukraine is ready for talks. Russia responds
11.09.2023 14:14
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The United States is confident that Ukraine will be ready to negotiate with Russia if Moscow makes such a proposal, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said.

Wameshaona kumshinda bear kivita ni ngumu,Bora mazungumzo.

Antony Blinken says Ukraine is ready for talks. Russia responds

Washington will support Kyiv and join the negotiations, the official added. The conflict must end on fair and sustainable terms that will reflect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, Antony Blinken said.

Hapa ndipo Putin hataki,Putin hataki zelensky aingie kwenye mazungumzo na wapambe.

However, the USA does not see believe that Moscow is interested in a diplomatic resolution of the conflict, he added.

Putin Hana shida na mazungumzo alishaweka wazi kua mazungumzo hayatahusu Crimea na donbass.pagumu hapo.

"Everyone wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken told Jonathan Karl of ABC.

"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them. Everyone wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," he also said.
Kwa kawaida mtu aliezidiwa ndio hua anataka mazungumzo.
Putin anapoonekana kutokutaka mazungumzo maanq yake anaona ametawala ktk uwanja wa vita.

Western observers: Peace talks with Russia inevitable
French politician and publicist Luc Ferry said earlier that negotiations with Russia were becoming an inevitable outcome due to the failure of the counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Kyiv's counteroffensive was unsuccessful despite multi-billion dollar military support from the West, the French publicist believes. He also supported Sarkozy's opinion who said that Ukraine was a bridge between Russia and the West.
 
lee van cliff said:
Antony Blinken says Ukraine is ready for talks. Russia responds
11.09.2023 14:14
World
The United States is confident that Ukraine will be ready to negotiate with Russia if Moscow makes such a proposal, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said.

Wameshaona kumshinda bear kivita ni ngumu,Bora mazungumzo.

Antony Blinken says Ukraine is ready for talks. Russia responds

Washington will support Kyiv and join the negotiations, the official added. The conflict must end on fair and sustainable terms that will reflect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, Antony Blinken said.

Hapa ndipo Putin hataki,Putin hataki zelensky aingie kwenye mazungumzo na wapambe.

However, the USA does not see believe that Moscow is interested in a diplomatic resolution of the conflict, he added.

Putin Hana shida na mazungumzo alishaweka wazi kua mazungumzo hayatahusu Crimea na donbass.pagumu hapo.

"Everyone wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," Blinken told Jonathan Karl of ABC.

"As to negotiations, it takes two to tango. And thus far, we see no indication that Vladimir Putin has any interest in meaningful diplomacy. If he does, I think the Ukrainians will be the first to engage, and we'll be right behind them. Everyone wants this war to end, but it has to end on just terms and on durable terms that reflect Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity," he also said.
Kwa kawaida mtu aliezidiwa ndio hua anataka mazungumzo.
Putin anapoonekana kutokutaka mazungumzo maanq yake anaona ametawala ktk uwanja wa vita.

Western observers: Peace talks with Russia inevitable
French politician and publicist Luc Ferry said earlier that negotiations with Russia were becoming an inevitable outcome due to the failure of the counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Kyiv's counteroffensive was unsuccessful despite multi-billion dollar military support from the West, the French publicist believes. He also supported Sarkozy's opinion who said that Ukraine was a bridge between Russia and the West.
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Naona unapost Ili kujifurahisha [emoji1787]

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NATO hawakomi TU,wameliwa vichwa Tena katika mikutano Yao ya Siri na WA Ukraine.
Hii ilikua ni tarehe 08 -09-2023
Tukiwaambia pro NATO kua NATO wanashiriki vita hii moja kwa moja hawakubali.lkn kama ilivyo kwa mficha maradhi.........

Russian missile strike on Krivoy Rog annihilates dozens of NATO and Ukrainian officers
08.09.2023 17:14
Incidents
On September 8, a Russian Kh-50 cruise missile struck the police department in the city of Krivoy Rog (also spelled the Ukrainian way as Kryvyi Rih). The Russian forces conducted the attack at the moment when Ukrainian security forces and NATO officers were holding a meeting there.

Russian missile strike on Krivoy Rog annihilates dozens of NATO and Ukrainian officers.

According to Turkish media, 40 people were killed and another 60 were injured as a result of the Russian attack.

"In Krivoy Rog, an administrative building, in which a meeting of Ukrainian security forces was supposedly taking place, was destroyed," news agencies said.

Russia's all-out attacks cause irreparable losses
Russia's intensified attacks on Ukraine cause irreparable losses, Oleg Soskin, adviser to former Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma said on his YouTube channel.

"Russia has been intensifying its drone and missile attacks on Ukraine lately. Their all-out attacks cause irreparable losses,” he said.

Tank ya UK nayo yaunguzwa.

The Frontline Bird Telegram channel wrote that the British-made tank was destroyed from the Kornet anti-tank missile system. The Challenger 2 was in service with the 82nd Separate Air Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

UK's newly appointed Secretary of Defence Grant Shapps confirmed the destruction of the Challenger 2 tank in the zone of the special military operation.
 
lee van cliff said:
NATO hawakomi TU,wameliwa vichwa Tena katika mikutano Yao ya Siri na WA Ukraine.
Hii ilikua ni tarehe 08 -09-2023
Tukiwaambia pro NATO kua NATO wanashiriki vita hii moja kwa moja hawakubali.lkn kama ilivyo kwa mficha maradhi.........

Russian missile strike on Krivoy Rog annihilates dozens of NATO and Ukrainian officers
08.09.2023 17:14
Incidents
On September 8, a Russian Kh-50 cruise missile struck the police department in the city of Krivoy Rog (also spelled the Ukrainian way as Kryvyi Rih). The Russian forces conducted the attack at the moment when Ukrainian security forces and NATO officers were holding a meeting there.

Russian missile strike on Krivoy Rog annihilates dozens of NATO and Ukrainian officers.

According to Turkish media, 40 people were killed and another 60 were injured as a result of the Russian attack.

"In Krivoy Rog, an administrative building, in which a meeting of Ukrainian security forces was supposedly taking place, was destroyed," news agencies said.

Russia's all-out attacks cause irreparable losses
Russia's intensified attacks on Ukraine cause irreparable losses, Oleg Soskin, adviser to former Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma said on his YouTube channel.

"Russia has been intensifying its drone and missile attacks on Ukraine lately. Their all-out attacks cause irreparable losses,” he said.

Tank ya UK nayo yaunguzwa.

The Frontline Bird Telegram channel wrote that the British-made tank was destroyed from the Kornet anti-tank missile system. The Challenger 2 was in service with the 82nd Separate Air Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

UK's newly appointed Secretary of Defence Grant Shapps confirmed the destruction of the Challenger 2 tank in the zone of the special military operation.
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Ukraine watengeneza mamia ya silaha fake ili zishambuliwe na drones Za Urusi [emoji848]
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Hundreds of Ukrainian military equipment pieces "destroyed" by Russia are fake

Russian forces have destroyed several hundreds of exact replicas of advanced American and European military developments, produced by the Ukrainian Metinvest company.
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Na warusi walivyo mazombi watazishukia mithili ya fisi wanavyogombania mizoga[emoji1787]

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Marekani ukae kwa kutulia unahagnaika nn mbona NATO mpo wengi Sana vikwazo vya nn?
Kim Jong-Un has arrived in Russia — Kremlin spokesman Peskov The Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has confirmed that North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has arrived in Russia following an invitation from President Vladimir Putin.
 
jameshyela said:
Marekani ukae kwa kutulia unahagnaika nn mbona NATO mpo wengi Sana vikwazo vya nn?
Kim Jong-Un has arrived in Russia — Kremlin spokesman Peskov The Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has confirmed that North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has arrived in Russia following an invitation from President Vladimir Putin.
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US is Satanic.
 
Hii ni Jana tu, zaidi ya mia tano walichinjwa 🥱🥱🥱
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Ukrainian Navy explained the importance of Boyko's towers, liberated yesterday by the Ukrainian Intelligence unit.

[emoji838] The DIU said that they had managed to regain control of oil production platforms off the coast of Crimea in the Black Sea. The towers were seized back in 2015 and then towed closer to Crimea. Russia used them, among other things, for military purposes.

[emoji838] The control over the towers is not only important for Ukraine in general, but also for strengthening the protection of the coast in the Odesa region. Moreover, the DIU dismantled Russian equipment used by the occupiers to monitor the situation in the Black Sea.

[emoji838] "This allows us to leave them without relevant information, they will not be able to respond in time or plan anything in our waters. Therefore, it is of great importance for the Odesa region in the first place. This is a security issue," said a spokesman for the Ukrainian Navy.

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kp kipanya44 said:
Ukrainian Navy explained the importance of Boyko's towers, liberated yesterday by the Ukrainian Intelligence unit.

[emoji838] The DIU said that they had managed to regain control of oil production platforms off the coast of Crimea in the Black Sea. The towers were seized back in 2015 and then towed closer to Crimea. Russia used them, among other things, for military purposes.

[emoji838] The control over the towers is not only important for Ukraine in general, but also for strengthening the protection of the coast in the Odesa region. Moreover, the DIU dismantled Russian equipment used by the occupiers to monitor the situation in the Black Sea.

[emoji838] "This allows us to leave them without relevant information, they will not be able to respond in time or plan anything in our waters. Therefore, it is of great importance for the Odesa region in the first place. This is a security issue," said a spokesman for the Ukrainian Navy.

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Kifupi Ukraine ni linchi likubwa sana mfano Tanzania imevamiwa na mvamizi kateka DSM,moro,tanga,mtwara ataweza kuwa na jeshi la kulinda maeneo yote kwa nguvu inayotakiwa ukipata jipya piga mstari ila jua Ukraine sio ndogo kama choo
 
jameshyela said:
Marekani ukae kwa kutulia unahagnaika nn mbona NATO mpo wengi Sana vikwazo vya nn?
Kim Jong-Un has arrived in Russia — Kremlin spokesman Peskov The Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has confirmed that North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has arrived in Russia following an invitation from President Vladimir Putin.
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SMO ya Urusi imezifungulia na kuzitoa vifungozi nchi zilizokua zimehukumiwa vifungo.
Ilianza kutoka Iran,Sasa Noko.

USA hua Ina wivu wa "kishetani" sana.

Imeumia sana kwa mwamba wa NOKO kitinga Moscow,na inaumia sana kwa Noko kua na mahusiano Moscow .

Utasikia inaionya NOKO kwa kile inakiita eti isiisaidie Urusi kwa silaha.
Wala isishirikiane na Urusi kwa namna yoyoye Ile.

Sasa kichekesho kinakuja.

Wakati Urusi ikizionya nchi zilizokua soviet zikajitenga zisijiunge na NATO,utasikia Mzee wa wivu anaisema Urusi kua,Urusi isizichagulie nchi zilizokua soviet marafiki.kichekesho hiki.

Lkni nchi nyingine mfano Iran na Noko zikichagua kua na irafiki na Urusi Mzee wa wivu USA anaanza kutokwa povu.

Kibaya zaidi nchi hizo USA alishazitenga,Sasa ziende wapi?

Ukweli ni kwamba USA ni taifa lenye wivu wa kishetani.

Cha ajabu kabisa ni kwamba USA ana umoja wake wa kijeshi yaani NATO lkn hataki kabisa Urusi awe na washirika wake kijeshi.mfano
Anawahamasisha wapambe wake Dunia nzima wapeleke silaha Ukraine,lkn hataki kabisa kusikia nchi yoyote duniani ikifikiria TU kuipa silaha Urusi.wakati ki ukweli Urusi haihitaji msaada wa silaha kutoka kwa yoyote yule.

(Ingawa ki ukweli inaweza kua Urusi ikapungukiwa na akiba ya risasi kubwa na mdogo,baada ya kutumia kwa mda mrefu kutokana na kua wapinzani wake wanachangishana silaha Kila siku ili kumfanya Urusi aishiwe na akiba yake ya risasi kubwa na ndogo (missile).lakini haimaanishi kua Urusi Haina silaha zenye uwezo.)
 
Dah Ukraine inapewa misaada jamani.

Ukraine imesaidiwa na nchi,makampini na watu binafsi.lkn wameshindwa kuidhibiti might Russia.

Musk kachoka aisee.
Hataki Tena.


Musk responds to Ukraine ‘treason’ claims
Elon Musk participates in a Paris technology conference in June. © Getty Images / Chesnot
American tech billionaire Elon Musk has responded to criticism over his refusal to help enable a Ukrainian drone attack on Russian naval forces in Crimea by pointing out that he’s a citizen of the US and isn’t obliged to fight for Kiev.

“I am a citizen of the United States and have only that passport,” Musk said on Monday in a post on his X (formerly Twitter) social media platform. “No matter what happens, I will fight for and die in America.” He added that in light of the fact that the US Congress hasn’t declared war on Russia, “if anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such. Please tell them that very clearly.
 
relis said:
Kifupi Ukraine ni linchi likubwa sana mfano Tanzania imevamiwa na mvamizi kateka DSM,moro,tanga,mtwara ataweza kuwa na jeshi la kulinda maeneo yote kwa nguvu inayotakiwa ukipata jipya piga mstari ila sio ndogo kama choo
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Ujiulizi kwa nini Ukraine anaweza kumanage na kupata nguvu ya kudeploy offensive troops sehemu zote zilizotekwa na wavamizi? Akikuwasha atakutia kisha atakusugua plus air defense system,Sasa iweje ukimbize mkund?

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lee van cliff said:
SMO ya Urusi imezifungulia na kuzitoa vifungozi nchi zilizokua zimehukumiwa vifungo.
Ilianza kutoka Iran,Sasa Noko.

USA hua Ina wivu wa "kishetani" sana.

Imeumia sana kwa mwamba wa NOKO kitinga Moscow,na inaumia sana kwa Noko kua na mahusiano Moscow .

Utasikia inaionya NOKO kwa kile inakiita eti isiisaidie Urusi kwa silaha.
Wala isishirikiane na Urusi kwa namna yoyoye Ile.

Sasa kichekesho kinakuja.

Wakati Urusi ikizionya nchi zilizokua soviet zikajitenga zisijiunge na NATO,utasikia Mzee wa wivu anaisema Urusi kua,Urusi isizichagulie nchi zilizokua soviet marafiki.kichekesho hiki.

Lkni nchi nyingine mfano Iran na Noko zikichagua kua na irafiki na Urusi Mzee wa wivu USA anaanza kutokwa povu.

Kibaya zaidi nchi hizo USA alishazitenga,Sasa ziende wapi?

Ukweli ni kwamba USA ni taifa lenye wivu wa kishetani.

Cha ajabu kabisa ni kwamba USA ana umoja wake wa kijeshi yaani NATO lkn hataki kabisa Urusi awe na washirika wake kijeshi.mfano
Anawahamasisha wapambe wake Dunia nzima wapeleke silaha Ukraine,lkn hataki kabisa kusikia nchi yoyote duniani ikifikiria TU kuipa silaha Urusi.wakati ki ukweli Urusi haihitaji msaada wa silaha kutoka kwa yoyote yule.

(Ingawa ki ukweli inaweza kua Urusi ikapungukiwa na akiba ya risasi kubwa na mdogo,baada ya kutumia kwa mda mrefu kutokana na kua wapinzani wake wanachangishana silaha Kila siku ili kumfanya Urusi aishiwe na akiba yake ya risasi kubwa na ndogo (missile).lakini haimaanishi kua Urusi Haina silaha zenye uwezo.)
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Mkuu hicho kioperation hakiwezi kumalizia silaha hapo Russia. FUTA kabisa Hilo wazo. Hicho ni sawa sawa na kioperation Cha Fields force unit, hapo mbagala mission Cha kuwafukunyua panya road.

Mzee ivi unaujua uadui wa west?, Yaani huyo Putin usimchukulie Ibrahim traole.

Russia imewatia kidole west, wanahaha. Sababu hawana Cha kufanya na kikaonekana.

Usije kushangaa mkutano unaofata BRICS+, North Korea inaomba uanachama.
 
kp kipanya44 said:
Ujiulizi kwa nini Ukraine anaweza kumanage na kupata nguvu ya kudeploy offensive troops sehemu zote zilizotekwa na wavamizi? Akikuwasha atakutia kisha atakusugua plus air defense system,Sasa iweje ukimbize mkund?

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Sasa kama kafanya full mobilization kwanini asipeleke soldiers all over front
 
Huk Luk said:
Unavuta Picha, In three Months of the so called "well planned and calculated counter- offensive" watu wamejongea Kilomita 1 mbele. Wastani wa Mita 12 kwa siku ndani ya miezi mitatu.... Ili tuiweke sawa wameweza kujongea umbali huu urefu wa basi Moja la Yutong kwa siku 🤣.

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Tukae chini tuhesabu "Intelligent Agencies" walio nyuma ya hii wanayoita "counter-offensive", Silaha zilizo tumika, wanajeshi waliopotea. Kisha tuyaangalie mafanikio walio yapata. Je ujongefu wa Kilomita moja ambao tena hawana uhakika wa kuushikilia any longer ulihitaji roho zote hizo walizopoteza?

Why fight the fights you already know you can't win from the beginning? Hata kwa logic tu ya kawaida. NATO coalition wanaogopa vita ya moja kwa moja na Russia, Visingizio ni vingi ila kimoja wapo ni kua "Itakua ni vita ambayo haina mshindi"... Sasa kama muungano wa nchi 33 na Mashost wa pembeni wanaona kupigana na Russia hakutakua na Ushindi kwanini watarajie ushindi kwa Ukraine? Is Ukraine better than all of NATO members combined?

Imefika hatua makaburi yamekua mengi kuliko idadi ya wapiganaji, Imefika hatua kwa kijana kua Raia wa Ukraine ni either ukafie fronts au kuishi kilema. Hawaitwi kwenye maamuzi ila wanafuatwa kokote waliko kutekeleza maamuzi ya wala Cocaine hapo Kyiv. Mda huo huo upande wa pili wanakwambia hawajafanya chochote serious kitu Ukraine hadi mda huu.
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Mpaka jana Putin kasema Ukraine imeshapoteza askari 71,000 kwenye counteroffensive yao, sijui kufikia mwisho wa mwaka itakuwaje kama wameanza kusajiri vipofu na wasio na viganja vya mikono kwa Sasa ha, ha ,ha ...!
 
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