Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Final Boss]

Video ya Mwaka jana hii, ndio hali iliyopo sasa. Kwamba itatokea mvurugano hapo mashariki ya kati na kila mtu atasahau kila kitu kuhusu Ukraine.

 

[Mathanzua]

Read the following article very carefully,I am sure you will see the connection between the Israe-Hamas conflict and the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

UKRAINE SOLD WEAPONS USED BY HAMAS TO ATTACK ISRAEL

08 OCTOBER 2023

During the intense fighting which broke out yesterday between HAMAS and Israel, astonishing things took place. Despite the most advanced intelligence and surveillance systems in the world, Palestinians allegedly broke through into Israel -- somehow un-noticed by all the surveillance gear.

One Israeli Border Guard told me "Our systems could see if a Bird was flying-in; yet authorities would have us believe they couldn't see dozens of Palestinians on motorized para-gliders in the air? It's simply not possible. They let this happen on purpose."

Another Israeli told me "MOSSAD knows when these people, HAMAS, take a dump in the bathroom, yet we're supposed to believe MOSSAD had no idea this gigantic operation was being planned?"

Israel has the best intelligence on its neighbors of any nation on earth. Israel has lots of “assets” embedded in these various “terrorist” organizations, as well as SIGINT (including U.S. satellite data) which allows Israel to always have a finger on the pulse of these organizations.

There is no way in hell that a coordinated, major attack involving about 1,000 Hamas fighters, sea-based/ land-based/ aerial attacks could have been planned, coordinated, and executed without Israeli intelligence getting wind of it. 0% chance.

Others had similar statements of anger and disbelief. One IDF soldier who saw Palestinians use a Drone to destroy an Israeli Merkava Tank said "Where did the Palestinians get drones with armor-piercing explosives? That technology is being used in the Ukraine-Russia conflict. How did it suddenly appear here, in Israel?"

Other IDF soldiers pointed to Anti-Tank Guided Missiles (ATGM) being used against Israeli Security Forces. He said "These are weapons being seen on the Ukraine battlefields, how did they get into the Gaza Strip?"

Then, in the midst of the fighting, this video came out: HAMAS thanking Ukraine for selling them weapons to be used against Israel:


View: https://twitter.com/JoeyMannarinoUS/status/1710817995579113966?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1710817995579113966%7Ctwgr%5E63ab321c5f9343d64f2f2f00b239dfbf376ea241%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhalturnerradioshow.com%2Findex.php%2Fen%2Fnews-page%2Fworld%2Fukraine-sold-weapons-to-hamas-used-against-israel

The most raging questions had to do with alleged "electronic jamming" that was said to have taken place as the Palestinians with para-gliders flew across the border into Israel. According to numerous sources on both sides, "electronic warfare" technology was allegedly used to jam Israeli radar and other surveillance gear. Said one Israeli "Only the Russians have gear to carry out such effective jamming - how did the Palestinians get it?"

The answers all see to point to yesterday's outbreak of violence as "payback" to Israel, from Russia, over Israel's support of Ukraine, and over Israel's supplying of weapons and technology to Azerbaijan, which used it against Armenia again over the past two weeks, to seize Nagorno-Karaback and send 100,000 Armenians fleeing for their lives.

If this conclusion about Russia is correct, then one might ask, how much farther all this fighting in Israel may go? Will Israel still exist when this is over? Maybe. Maybe not.

One official with whom I spoke overnight told me "Israel is suffering from Desertification of its land; the ground water table is receding 25 meters a year and soon, there won't be enough arable land to support the continued existence of Israel. But . . . quite coincidentally . . . there is now rich, arable land, in the center of Europe, where half its population has either fled or been killed, that would suit a relocation of Israel: Ukraine. Maybe they'll all move there."

Gee. What a coincidence.

As for those asking "Why are the Palestinians so violent towards Israel?" the answer has been on maps for years, right in front of everyone's eyes. Below is the reality from the time "Israel" was created in 1949, until today. The White areas are "Israel" and the Green are "Palestinian."

The Palestinians have been systematically purged from their land, their homes, and their freedom. THAT is the root of this hatred. It's not going away.

They never show you this map on the news. That's because it provides the crucial context necessary to anyone wanting to understand the Israel/Palestine situation.

 

[MOTOCHINI]

Marekani Kwa Kujitafutia Sifa
Yaani Kaona Palestina Hawana Jeshi ndio Kajifanya kupeleka Utopolo wake Na kuhusika Moja kwa Moja Kumsaidia Israel ila Kwa DUBU Urusi Anakuwa Nyuma nyuma

 

[Sigonella Island]

Benjamin Netanyau yupo hoi Hospital]pic.twitter.com/0djXK4nGsf
something broke! He was taken to Sheba Hospital in Tel Shumer

 

[Sigonella Island]

💥 Hamas militants fire MANPADS at Israeli helicopters

 

[Sigonella Island]

Negotiations between Sergey Lavrov and the Secretary General of the Arab League, Ahmed Aboul Gheit, have started in Moscow. Lavrov noted that the acute escalation of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict showed that the current status quo is unviable.

 

[Sigonella Island]

It is reported that 10 million pieces of 120- and 150-mm shells and other ammunition were transported from the DPRK to Russia.

Western satellite images show unprecedented growth in rail travel between North Korea and Russia.

Is this something bad?

t.me/vicktop55/17537

 

[pyongyang]

Kwakua macho yote yamehamia huko gaza kwa mda,Urusi anatakiwa atumie upenyo wahiki kichoendelea huko gaza kustrike vyakutosha pale ukraine mpaka waombe poo...otherwise uelekeo wa hii vita utakuja kujulikana baada ya uchaguzi wa marekani ujao...ila kwasasa hakuna jipya lolote litakalotokea bado sioni upandae unaoelekea kuishiwa pumzi

 

[Jackal]

Ukraine hii sio poa mnachomfanya supapawa mpaka anawaza kutumia nyuklia 🤔
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Recent updates as of 08.10👇

 

[kp kipanya44]

Ukraine hii sio poa mnachomfanya supapawa mpaka anawaza kutumia nyuklia [emoji848]
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Recent updates as of 08.10[emoji116]
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Ngoja wachakazwe tu hakuna namna [emoji848]

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[kp kipanya44]

Benjamin Netanyau yupo hoi Hospital]pic.twitter.com/0djXK4nGsf
something broke! He was taken to Sheba Hospital in Tel Shumer

Nilifikiri propaganda ni kwenye vita ya urusi na Ukraine tu ,kumbe hata huku??

Nyie jamaa siwawezi kwa kweli![emoji28]

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[Galip Veryl]

Ukitazama Kwa hicho la tatu hivi vikundi vya kipalestina ni kama wanafanya kazi na marekani na Israel Kwa namna moja au nyingine nasema hivi Kwa sababu,

Ukifatilia Kwa umakini toka mwaka 1947 taifa la Israel linaundwa limekuwa linaongeza maeneo ya mipaka yake ya nchi kila siku, lakini ukiangalia njia ambayo anaongeza maeneo ni Ile Ile, (tofauti ni Ile tu vita ya mwaka 1967 ambayo waarabu waliungana) yaani kuna kikundi cha kipalestina kinaanza kushambulia Israel halafu muisrael anajibu Kwa kipigo kikali na kuua raia wengi na kuchukua maeneo mapya Kwa lengo kama kuweka buffer zone lakini mwisho wa siku Israel analifanya ni ardhi yake,
Sasa huwenda marekani na Israel wanataka kumega eneo jingine ndani ya Palestina sasa wanatafuta sababu ya kuchukua eneo hilo,
Nasema hivi sababu sioni mafanikio watakayoyapata Palestina baada ya kushambulia Israel Jana, matokeo yake yatakuja kutokea mauaji makubwa Kwa Palestinian na sidhani kama wanaweza kuwazuia waisrael kwenye battlefield, labda kama wanasapoti ya waarabu lakini kinyume na hapo naona kuna damu nyingi za wapalestina zinaenda kumwagika Kwa kisingizio cha Israel inajibu mapigo au inajilinda,

Kitu pekee ninachojiuliza kama hiki kikundi kinajua nini kitafata Kwa kuishambulia Israel kwanini wanaanzisha ugomvi ambao wanajua kabisa watashindwa????

Hapa ndipo napata hisia kuwa kwenye vikundi vya wanamgambi wa kiPalestina kuna mamluki wa Israel na marekani,

Labda kuna kitu sikielewi naomba mnifahamishe

Mh!

Kibaya kwenye dunia yetu ya leo every truth is twisted. Kila ukweli unao ujua kuna namna flani umepindishwa. Kinachopishana ni namna gani na kwa kiasi kipi ukweli huo umepindishwa.

Unalowaza linaweza kua kweli lakini ukiangalia map ya sasa kwa kutizama eneo alipo Palestine ukilinganisha na eneo alipo Israel doesn't make sense at all. Kwamba Israel mwenyewe ajiita the Invincible akubali kujiumbua kua ni weak kiasi hicho kwa kutaka tu kijieneo kilichobaki hapo Palestine. (last section below)

Kuhusu Hamas kuamua kuingia All in kwenye mapigano dhidi ya Israel, lel say ni kweli wamepangwa na Israel wenyewe lakini the Motive behind haijalishi the outcome ni kwamba Palestine wamekuwa stretched to the Maximum kiasi kwamba wanaona hawana cha kupoteza.

Hii hali inayowakumba kwa sasa ni kama ilivyokua Donbass ndani ya miaka 8 toka 2014 hadi 2022. Kila siku watu wanakufa Palestine, lakini Media hazisemi chochote. Wanavunjiwa majengo yao na mambo mengine ya ajab ila the so called International Community wamekaa kimya. Leo wameamua kujitafuta unaona wanajivua ukondoo wao na kujieka wazi kua wamesimama wapi.

Unakumbuka issue ya Bendera ya Palestine na Slogan za #FreePalestine? Zilikua zinapewa Hype kama hii ya sasa ya #IStandWithIsrael? Jibu ni jeupe kwamba Happana. Why? Kwasabab tuna nchi moja ishajipa jukum la kuamua nani yuko sawa na nani hayuko sawa kulingana na Interest zao.

Same situation iliyotokea hapo Ukraine na Russia.

Sasa em jiulize, wanamgambo wa Hamas wwnaopigana hapo nasikia ni kama 1000 hivi, ila US katuma Meli yake kubwa ya kivita na mengineyo kuelekea Israel. Unajiuliza ili iweje? Lengo lake haswa nini?

Issue ni Hamas vs Israel force ila washaanza kujadili namna ya kuilipua Iran, how comes na kwanini?

Mwisho wa siku ukweli unabaki kua nadharia tu, maana ni vitu ambavyo hatuna proofs navyi zaidi ya hizi taarifa tunazosikia hapa na kule.

Ukraine is done now, leo wako Middle east kesho kutwa utawasikia wapo Asia wanaendelea na harakati zao. Utafikiri waliwekeana mkataba wa damu za watu na Viumbe wasio julikana.

Anyway kila anaekaribia kukata upepo hua anatapa tapa. A dying empire naona bado ina mengi ya ku'offer in term of uvunjifu wa aman kila kona ya dunia hii.

 

[Sigonella Island]

[emoji1193][emoji1131]Iraqi Resistance group Kataib Sayed al-Shuhada statement:

“Palestine is not Ukraine. If America intervenes directly in the events taking place there to stabilize the crumbling entity, all American presence in the region will become legitimate targets for the Resistance."

[emoji837] @DDGeopoltics

 

[Sigonella Island]

Nilifikiri propaganda ni kwenye vita ya urusi na Ukraine tu ,kumbe hata huku??

Nyie jamaa siwawezi kwa kweli![emoji28]

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Anapigwa drip za togwa

 

[Mahesabu]

Kuna wachambuzi fulani wanadai huu mgogoro wa Israil na palestina umeanzishwa kwa dhumuni la kugeuza upepo wa vita ya ukraine na mrussi.

Wanadai wamagharibi wanatafuta njia ya kunyamazisha mgogoro ule, wachambuzi wale hawaamini ya kwamba intelijensia ya Israel na wasaidizi wake wameshindwa kung'amua mipango ya HAMAS

Ngoja tuone huenda hawapo sahihi au wapo sahihi.

Mimi ni miongoni mwao.....!
japo mimi naenda mbele kidogo kusema .... SASA SULUHISHO LA MGOGORO WA UKRAINE ITAPATIKANA kwa haraka baada ya kuzuka hili a Mashariki ya kati

 

[jameshyela]

Ukraine hii sio poa mnachomfanya supapawa mpaka anawaza kutumia nyuklia [emoji848]
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Umeelewa maana ya neno Approximate?

 

[matunduizi]

Mabomu ya IAF yanaangusha na kugeuza Ghorofa kuwa kifusi, ila mabomu ya Urusi Ukraine yanatoboa tu ghorofa au yanalijeruhi ila linabaki limesimama.

Sijaelewa hapa.

 

[Sigonella Island]

Mabomu ya IAF yanaangusha na kugeuza Ghorofa kuwa kifusi, ila mabomu ya Urusi Ukraine yanatoboa tu ghorofa au yanalijeruhi ila linabaki limesimama.

Sijaelewa hapa.

Urusi anapigana vita kwa akili nyingi na kitaalam sana kuangamiza

 

[Jackal]

Ukraine wapeleka maafa kwa warusi waliovamia vinu vya nyuklia huko Zaporizhzhia🤔
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Special Operations Forces inflict heavy losses on Russians on Zaporizhzhia front

The Special Operations Forces destroyed several artillery systems, multiple-launch rocket systems, special equipment, vehicles and a means of radio-electronic warfare, and killed Russian personnel in a week on the Zaporizhzhia front.

www.pravda.com.ua

 

[lee Vladimir cleef]

Marekani Kwa Kujitafutia Sifa
Yaani Kaona Palestina Hawana Jeshi ndio Kajifanya kupeleka Utopolo wake Na kuhusika Moja kwa Moja Kumsaidia Israel ila Kwa DUBU Urusi Anakuwa Nyuma nyuma

Amijidai kupeleka meli kwa wapalestina,lkn Kwa Mzee kiduku TU alisanda,ataweza kwa Urusi?
Ndio maana watu husema hizo aircraft carriers ninkwa ajili ya nchi ndogondogo kama irq,Libya na wapalestina,lkn sio kwa Dubu.