Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Galip Veryl]

“It’s a trap, they’re cutting up our passports and sending us to the front”.

American volunteer complains of mistreatment by Ukrainian forces - those he came to fight for - and claims losses suffered by foreign volunteers are being understated by Ukrainian authorities

"Ni mtego, wanakata pasipoti zetu na kutupeleka mbele".

Mmarekani aliyejitolea analalamika kudhulumiwa na vikosi vya Ukraine - wale aliokuja kuwapigania - na anadai hasara walizopata walofika wageni wa kujitolea zinapuuzwa na mamlaka ya Ukraine.


Waswahili uku sie tupo na tweets na media za mlengwa mmoja zikitwambia "Wanashinda" Mrusi kachakaa... Hatujiulizi wala yule "Ghost of Kyiv" yu wapi sasa... Hatujiulizi huyu "Deadliest Sniper" walomtangaza kwa mbwembwe alipopoteza uhai wake walikaa kimya...

 

[CARDLESS]

Labda kwa sababu huko iko bahari pande zote mbili?
Na hakuna jirani kubwa yenye silaha za nyuklia aliyewahi kuvamia nchi nyingi?
Unaonaje?

Lengo la NATO ni kuicontrol URUSI, na adui namba moja wa NATO ni URUSI, na adui namba moja wa URUSI ni NATO.
Huu mzozo hauwezi isha mpaka siku NATO ikivunjika.

 

[T14 Armata]

We unadhani kwann MAREKANI asiungane na wenzake wa AMERIKA YA KUSINI na KASKAZINI kuunda UMOJA wao wa KUJIHAMI??

Marekani anatafuta wenye hela, yuko na Canada jirani yake wa Kaskazini ila hayuko na majirani wa Kusini. Mexico ilivamiwa na Marekani wakapigana sana mwishowe wakasaini mkataba kuachia 55% ya ardhi yao! Majimbo ya California, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah na Colorado maeneo yao yalikuwa ni sehemu ya Mexico. Ndio maana Zimmermann alituma Telegram kuwaambia Mexico waivamie Marekani wakati Ujerumani inapigana na Waingereza uko Ulaya ili WW1 ikiisha Mexico ichukue majimbo yake. Kama Ufaransa ilivyoungana na Uingereza kupigana na Ujerumani ili irudishe majimbo yake ya Alsace na Lorraine yaliyotekwa mwishoni mwa 1800s.

Mataifa makubwa ni weziwezi. Inabidi wawe na nguvu sawa sio mmoja ana nguvu sana kiasi anatuvamia sisi tunchi tudogo

 

[RTI]

Pro Putin mnajua kuwa Uwanja wa ndege wa Kherson imerejeshwa na Ukraine [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Russia ni Simba wa kuchora

Huwe una leta ushahidi sio kuongea tu.

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[CARDLESS]

Pro Putin mnajua kuwa Uwanja wa ndege wa Kherson imerejeshwa na Ukraine [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Russia ni Simba wa kuchora

Mkuu bora ubakie FB

 

[permanides]

Mkuu siraha hazizuii uonevu,
Siraha haipigani vita ila watu ndo wanapigana vita na watu ndo wakuzuia uonevu.

Ukiwa na siraha za hatari ila vionguzi wa hovyo Ni sawa na jeshi la Simba linaloongozwa na kondoo.
Urusi anajipigia huko sababu NATO hamna kiongozi, US kaonekana sio real super power yaana Nchi inavamiwa halafu wakusaidia anakaa pembeni wanakimbilia vikwazo vya kipuuzi.


Hiyo vita ikiisha Urusi akashinda US hatakuwa Superpower Tena na vikwazo vitakuwa vimeondoka automatically.

Sababu za US kusita kuishambulia North Korea ni kutokana na North Korea kuwa na nukes. Hata Ukraine angekuwa na zile nukes Putin asingeingia kirahisi hivi.

 

[Mwanamkiwi]

Lengo la NATO ni kuicontrol URUSI, na adui namba moja wa NATO ni URUSI, na adui namba moja wa URUSI ni NATO.
Huu mzozo hauwezi isha mpaka siku NATO ikivunjika.

Je unashindwa kujibu? Unakimbia kuleta mapya kila safari. Unasemaje kuhusu orodha ya nchi zilizovamiwa na Urusi na makoloni yake?

 

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

Sputnik V ndio chanjo ya kwanza ya COVID-19 kutolewa sasa wanasemaje kuna technical difficulties kwenye evaluation. Vikwazo gani vinazuia evaluation ya mambo muhimu ya afya

Magari yanagongana.

 

[T14 Armata]

Pro Putin mnajua kuwa Uwanja wa ndege wa Kherson imerejeshwa na Ukraine [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Russia ni Simba wa kuchora

Hivi zile zilizoshambulia pale ni rockets au artillery. Nimeona picha kwa Maxar na Planet Lab kuna madhara mengi yametokea hasa kwenye helicopters. Huu uwanja mara ya pili Ukraine wanaushambulia. Wao wenyewe waliondoka haraka Urusi ilipovamia na kutaka kuuchukua mapema iutumie kiasi waliacha silaha zao nyingi.

Ila Ukraine somehow wana professionalism zile training za NATO nilizokuwa nadharau miaka iliyopita naona hazikuwa bure

 

[CARDLESS]

Marekani anatafuta wenye hela, yuko na Canada jirani yake wa Kaskazini ila hayuko na majirani wa Kusini. Mexico ilivamiwa na Marekani wakapigana sana mwishowe wakasaini mkataba kuachia 55% ya ardhi yao! Majimbo ya California, New Mexico, Nevada, Utah na Colorado maeneo yao yalikuwa ni sehemu ya Mexico. Ndio maana Zimmermann alituma Telegram kuwaambia Mexico waivamie Marekani wakati Ujerumani inapigana na Waingereza uko Ulaya ili WW1 ikiisha Mexico ichukue majimbo yake. Kama Ufaransa ilivyoungana na Uingereza kupigana na Ujerumani ili irudishe majimbo yake ya Alsace na Lorraine yaliyotekwa mwishoni mwa 1800s.

Mataifa makubwa ni weziwezi. Inabidi wawe na nguvu sawa sio mmoja ana nguvu sana kiasi anatuvamia sisi tunchi tudogo

Yes na hapo ndipo mzozo ulipo, USA yeye amepora maeneo mengi lkn kwakuwa ana nguvu inaonekana kawaida. Ufaransa hadi leo anatawala maeneo mengi nje ya mipaka yake kama hapo MAYOTTE nk.
Huu mzozo natamani sana izaliwe block nyingine mpya kabisa yaan URUSI, CHINA, INDIA nk dhidi ya NATO.
Kama hakutakuwa na Block nyingine amini nakwambia ukoloni unakuja kujirudia upya.

 

[NAWATAFUNA]

Wao hawana?

Hawana.

 

[Nazi Ignition]

Sababu za US kusita kuishambulia North Korea ni kutokana na North Korea kuwa na nukes. Hata Ukraine angekuwa na zile nukes Putin asingeingia kirahisi hivi.

Boss unafikili kila Nchi ikiwa na nukes haitatokea vita Tena Duniani?

Vita zitaendelea kupiganwa bila kujali hizo Nikes uwepo wake.

 

[CARDLESS]

Je unashindwa kujibu? Unakimbia kuleta mapya kila safari. Unasemaje kuhusu orodha ya nchi zilizovamiwa na Urusi na makoloni yake?

Zama za mawe hizo mzee, Czechslovakia unayoisema ilikuwa ndani ya USSR.
Vita unazozitaja wewe ni katika kuijenga USSR na ukumbuke USSR imevunjika rasmi 1990s.
Unaenda WIKIPEDIA unakusanya vitu hata huelewi mzee.

 

[permanides]

“It’s a trap, they’re cutting up our passports and sending us to the front”.

American volunteer complains of mistreatment by Ukrainian forces - those he came to fight for - and claims losses suffered by foreign volunteers are being understated by Ukrainian authorities

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"Ni mtego, wanakata pasipoti zetu na kutupeleka mbele".

Mmarekani aliyejitolea analalamika kudhulumiwa na vikosi vya Ukraine - wale aliokuja kuwapigania - na anadai hasara walizopata walofika wageni wa kujitolea zinapuuzwa na mamlaka ya Ukraine.


Waswahili uku sie tupo na tweets na media za mlengwa mmoja zikitwambia "Wanashinda" Mrusi kachakaa... Hatujiulizi wala yule "Ghost of Kyiv" yu wapi sasa... Hatujiulizi huyu "Deadliest Sniper" walomtangaza kwa mbwembwe alipopoteza uhai wake walikaa kimya...

This is a common propaganda during war times. Without verification it's hard to believe on its verasity. Usually the opposite sides will issue information indicating the other side has bitten more than it can chew but on the ground it might be something different.

 

[Omary - Msamalia]

Huwe una leta ushahidi sio kuongea tu.

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Naleta ushahidi

 

[Galip Veryl]

This is a common propaganda during war times. Without verification it's hard to believe on its verasity. Usually the opposite sides will issue information indicating the other side has bitten more than it can chew but on the ground it might be something different.

Na hizo n propaganda si ndio?

 

[permanides]

Lengo la NATO ni kuicontrol URUSI, na adui namba moja wa NATO ni URUSI, na adui namba moja wa URUSI ni NATO.
Huu mzozo hauwezi isha mpaka siku NATO ikivunjika.

NATO haivunjiki, tena kutokana na aggression ya Mrusi NATO members wanaboresha mifumo yao ulinzi lakini pia ambao hawakuwa wanachama wa NATO kwa sasa wanakabiliwa na mtihani mgumu, wabakie neutral na siku wakipishana na Kremlin wakubali kupewa mashartiat au watafute usalama ndani ya NATO. Kuna members wapo ndani ya NATO hawana mchango wa maana kivita, ila wapo kwenye strategic position ya kupambana kwa ukaribu na maadui wa NATO.

 

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

The International Court of Justice has ruled that Russia must stop its military operation in Ukraine, RIA Novosti reported.
Galip SV Liwagu

 

[Omary - Msamalia]

Hivi zile zilizoshambulia pale ni rockets au artillery. Nimeona picha kwa Maxar na Planet Lab kuna madhara mengi yametokea hasa kwenye helicopters. Huu uwanja mara ya pili Ukraine wanaushambulia. Wao wenyewe waliondoka haraka Urusi ilipovamia na kutaka kuuchukua mapema iutumie kiasi waliacha silaha zao nyingi.

Ila Ukraine somehow wana professionalism zile training za NATO nilizokuwa nadharau miaka iliyopita naona hazikuwa bure

Ukrainians are very strategically...

Nadhani itakuwa ni makombora ya mbali cause Kuna video naangalia namna nitaishare, zaidi ya Helicopters 10 nimeona zimeanguka au kutelekezwa na magari mengi tu, Pia aliye record ni Askari wa Ukraine kumaanisha wameshachukua Umiliki wake.

Nadhani kadri muda unavozidi kwenda Russia anachoka kijeshi atatamani sana makubaliano wakati Ukraine anapata moto wa mapambano.

Hivi vikwazo na hii vita itafanya Russia wajiulize mara mbili juu ya uwezo kulingana na Wamagharibi.

 

[NYUNDO YA MOTO]

The Russian Foreign Ministry said that the blocking of the BBC News website is only the beginning of Russia's response to the information war unleashed by the West.
Galip SV Liwagu