LIVE Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

[Muite]

Nilidhani umekomaa kiuchambuzi lkn kumbe bado sana.
Hapa hakuna good move wala kuchelewa.
Iko hivi,
kama wangeruhusu tokea mwanzo kutumia makombora Yao kupiga ndani ya Urusi,vita isingekua kama ilivyo Leo.
Nakuhakikishia Leo hii miji ya new York, London, Paris, Bucharest n.k ingekua magofu TU,Leo hii china, north Korea,Iran na marafiki zao wangekua wanarusha makombora upande wa west na kinyume chake.Hakika hii ingekua vita ya Tatu ya Dunia,kitu ambacho west wemekua wakikiogopa sikuzote.
Hata hivyo,si tuko hapa Mimi na wewe Sasa subiri warushe hayo mabomu Yao huko Moscow ndio utakua kama Putin anatania,maana kwa Hali ya kawaida hiyo itakua ni vita rasmi Sasa kati ya Urusi na west.Je Urusi atawapigia magoti ama atawarudishia majibu stahiki?
Mimi nakuambia tusiaongee sana,tusubiri tuone.
Kumbuka hayo makombora Yao hayawezi kurushwa bila msaada wa satellite zao,maana yake wao ndio watakua wamempiga Urusi.
Je unafukiri raia wa NATO wako tayari kua wakimbizi kwa sababu ya Ukraine?
Ukraine inawapa Nini NATO Cha maana?
Tusubiri.

Tatizo ninaloliona humu JF wengi sisi ni wajuaji kuliko wanaohusika na hivyo vita vya Ukraine . Naona na wewe umeandika gazeti.. Yaani wewe unajua kuliko USA na Washirika wake. Yaani Marekani inafanya jambo fulani halafu mswahili wa Bunju unajidai unajua athari atakazozipata. Mswahili wa Tegeta kwa Ndevu anajua kuliko Pentagon na CIA.

 

[kp kipanya44]

Jaribu kutumia akili kidogo hata kama hauna,punguza mahaba na mhemko! Kwa sasa ni hapa!

The New York Times (NYT) and Washington Post reported that US President Joe Biden has authorized Ukrainian forces to use US-provided ATACMS in limited strikes against Russian and North Korean military targets within Kursk Oblast.
November 17, 2024, 4:30pm ET

Institute for the Study of War

This page collects ISW and CTP's updates on the conflict in Ukraine. In late February 2022, ISW began publishing daily synthetic products covering key events related to renewed Russian aggression against Ukraine.

www.understandingwar.org

Pole sana



🇺🇦🇷🇺 US President Joe #Biden has authorized #Ukraine to use long-range American missiles against military targets inside #Russia, a #US official told AFP on condition of anonymity, confirming media reports.

📰 The New York Times and The Washington Post, citing unnamed sources, said that the major policy shift long demanded by Ukraine was in response to North Korea deploying troops to help Moscow's war effort.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has consistently pushed for authorisation from Washington to use the powerful Army Tactical Missile System, known by its initials as ATACMS, to hit targets inside Russia.

🔴 Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned that such a green light would mean that NATO was "at war" with Russia -- a threat he has made previously when Ukraine's backers have escalated their military assistance to Kyiv.

 

[kp kipanya44]

Tatizo ninaloliona humu JF wengi sisi ni wajuaji kuliko wanaohusika na hivyo vita vya Ukraine . Naona na wewe umeandika gazeti.. Yaani wewe unajua kuliko USA na Washirika wake. Yaani Marekani inafanya jambo fulani halafu mswahili wa Bunju unajidai unajua athari atakazozipata. Mswahili wa Tegeta kwa Ndevu anajua kuliko Pentagon na CIA.

Warusi wa jamiiforum wamepagawa hawajui waandike nini 🤩😍🤩😍🤩😍

 

[Proved]

kama wangeruhusu tokea mwanzo kutumia makombora Yao kupiga ndani ya Urusi,vita isingekua kama ilivyo Leo.
Nakuhakikishia Leo hii miji ya new York, London, Paris, Bucharest n.k ingekua magofu TU,Leo hii china, north Korea,Iran na marafiki zao wangekua wanarusha makombora upande wa west na kinyume chake.Hakika hii ingekua vita ya Tatu ya Dunia,kitu ambacho west wemekua wakikiogopa sikuzote.

Thubutuuu.......

China sio mjinga anunue ugomvi usiomuhusu.

 

[goswe]

Putin is in a weak position to challenge the US/ NATO

To challenge or to win??

 

[Proved]

To challenge or to win??

Yote ni majibu

 

[mohamedidrisa789]

Hatimaye vita imeingia rasmi kwenye jimbo la Chernihiv.warusi wameteka vijiji kazaa kwenye jimbo ilo ambalo linapakana na mji mkuu(Kiev).

 

[goswe]

Tutarajie kuanzia Sasa kuona Moscow ikichakazwa kwa makombora ya USA 🤩😍🤩😍🤩😍🤩😍

Ili mambo yawe moto inabidi russia apigie vya kutosha.
Na inabiidi iwe hvyo.

Ila...

⚡The UK has exhausted its supply of Storm Shadow missiles for Ukraine, according to The Times.

Sources within the British Ministry of Defense suggest that military leadership is unwilling to deplete reserves further, as maintaining a minimum stockpile is necessary for the country’s defense.

“The UK’s stockpile has reached a level below which military leadership is unwilling to go, as a certain amount must be kept in reserve to safeguard Britain’s own interests,” the newspaper reports

 

[Kalicho]

Ukraine imesubiri hili kwa muda mrefu....

Good move...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c789x0y91vvo.amp&ved=2ahUKEwj2pbC3j-WJAxXVcaQEHYbuM8kQr_oDKAB6BAgrEAE&usg=AOvVaw2ZB2vuxT1mZbvpRRjWb749

Good move ??? ,okay, let's wait

 

[kp kipanya44]

Germany will transfer 4,000 HX-2 Karma kamikaze drones to Ukraine. The declared range of the drones is 100 kilometers

 

[goswe]

Updated Russian nuclear doctrine

*Any aggression against Russia by a non-nuclear state, but with the support or participation of a nuclear-armed country, will be considered a joint attack. It is clear to everyone which countries we are talking about. Under certain conditions, a massive launch of enemy air power, including airplanes, missiles, and UAVs, resulting in a violation of our border, may be justification for the use of nuclear weapons.'

 

[enzo1988]

Naona unajaribu kuokoteza habari za kakufarij.

Hivi ni vyombo vikubwa vya habari kwa wamagharibi,huviamini?? Au huna akili?? Au unapenda ubishi? (sifa ya mtu mjinga),kama upo tayari tuelekezane (sifa ya watu werevu)

Washington’s decision on ATACMS is couched in terms of being limited to the defence of Ukrainian forces inside the Kursk region.

Ukraine-Russia war latest: Russia vows response if Ukraine uses US long-range missiles to hit its territory

The Kremlin warns Kyiv's use of such missiles would mark an escalation in the conflict, hours after Joe Biden gives the green light.

www.bbc.com

The weapons are intended to be used primarily in Kursk for now, a US official said. With its huge troop amassment there.The idea is to help Ukraine hold on to Kursk for as long as possible, the official said.

https://edition.cnn.com

 

[kp kipanya44]

Hivi ni vyombo vikubwa vya habari kwa wamagharibi,huviamini?? Au huna akili?? Au unapenda ubishi? (sifa ya mtu mjinga),kama upo tayari tuelekezane (sifa ya watu werevu)

Washington’s decision on ATACMS is couched in terms of being limited to the defence of Ukrainian forces inside the Kursk region.

Ukraine-Russia war latest: Russia vows response if Ukraine uses US long-range missiles to hit its territory

The Kremlin warns Kyiv's use of such missiles would mark an escalation in the conflict, hours after Joe Biden gives the green light.

www.bbc.com

The weapons are intended to be used primarily in Kursk for now, a US official said. With its huge troop amassment there.The idea is to help Ukraine hold on to Kursk for as long as possible, the official said.

https://edition.cnn.com

Uskatike sana bibie,bado naandaa moto🤩😍🤩😍🤩




🇩🇪🇺🇦 Germany is preparing to provide Ukraine with 4,000 Mini-Taurus UAVs with artificial intelligence, which makes them virtually invulnerable to Russian EW and GPS jamming, - Bild

❗️Starting in December, several hundred such drones will be delivered every month.

 

[Richard]

Tutarajie kuanzia Sasa kuona Moscow ikichakazwa kwa makombora ya USA 🤩😍🤩😍🤩😍🤩😍

Ni kweli wanaweza kupiga Moscow. Lakini hayo si mawazo ya Joe Biden. Ndo maana imeitwa limited yaani kiasi cha makombora hayo yatumike kikamilifu.

Russia walikwishasema makombora hayo yanahitaji teknolojia ya GPS na masuala mengine ni ya kitaalam si tu watu warusha kombora kienyeji.

Ndo maana Putin kama ulimsikiliza alisema ni wanajeshi wa Marekani ndo wataokuwa operators wa mitambo kwani ndo wenye ujuzi nayo.

Ndo maana yatatuka palę Kursk ambako Ukraine yazidi kupoteza territory.

Pia Marekani wataka wamsaidie Zelenskyy akikomboa Kursk awe na sauti kwenye mazungumzo ya kusitisha vita.

Pia hiyo ni mtihani kwani pale Kursk inasemwa kuna vikosi vya Korea Kaskazini.

Hii pia ( ya vikosi vya NK) yaweza kuwa ni propaganda ya NATO na Marekani ili kupata sababu ya kutumia hizo silaha.

Pengine hata majeshi ya NK hayapo hapo Kurks.

Tutumie uwezo wetu kubaini maneno ya hawa jamaa la sivyo mtu hujikuta umelishwa matango pori mengi na hao war mongers.

 

[Simon10]

Naona watu wana mixed feeling kuhusu hili la long range, kuruhusiwa ni kitu kingine
na kuwa na hizo silaha ni kitu kingine.
Nilikuwa najiuliza kwanini last week. Russia alikuwa anarusha makombora all over Ukraine hadi covert intelligence post ya Ufaransa ikapigwa missile kumbe ishu ilikuwa hii.
Amepewa ruhusu, ishu sasa ni kupewa hizo silaha zenyewe, sababu zilizokuwepo nyingi zimekula kiberiti kwenye warehou.

kitendo cha Urusi kushambulia energy facility hasa zenye link na military ammo depot pamoja na njia nyingi za kusafirisha hasa railway kutokea Lviv na Odessa port ni ku disrupt logistic and supply chain.

Nadhani wakati west wanataka kupunguza kasi ya Urusi na counter offensive ya kursk kabla ya Jan 6, Urusi nae anataka kuongeza maeneo zaidi kabla ya hiyo tarehe na either kuikomboa kursk yote au wanajesh waliopo hapo na merceneries kuwa hostage.
Kuna siku 30, za fierce crush na missile exchange ngoja tuone

 

[Lee Van free]

Hayo makombora yataichakaza hata Kremlin na Putin hakuna kitu atafanya

Ninachokiona Sasa ni kwamba Putin atahamishia makazi yake underground huko

Unadhani Putin Hana makombora ya kuwafanya Marais wote wa NATO kuishi mapangoni?
Tena hii ni mbaya zaidi kuliko mnavyofikiri,maana Urusi akiwa peke yake atqjua kua wao Wana Nia ya kimuangamiza hivyo majibu yake ni kwamba Bora tuangamie wote.

 

[Lee Van free]

Tatizo ninaloliona humu JF wengi sisi ni wajuaji kuliko wanaohusika na hivyo vita vya Ukraine . Naona na wewe umeandika gazeti.. Yaani wewe unajua kuliko USA na Washirika wake. Yaani Marekani inafanya jambo fulani halafu mswahili wa Bunju unajidai unajua athari atakazozipata. Mswahili wa Tegeta kwa Ndevu anajua kuliko Pentagon na CIA.

Naona na wewe ni walewale TU wa kuamini Kila kinachosemwa na USA na west ni sahihi.
Yaani wewe na wenzako humu mnaonaga kama baada ya Mungu basi anaefuata ni USA.
Ni mambo mangapi USA amedanganya mbele ya media? Na Dunia nzima inashuhidia?
Mfano Iraq Ina silaha za maangamizi.
Sasa Leo hii kama kawaida yenu pro NATO hua mna sherehe za mda mfupi sana,mlisherehekea Juveline,mkasherehekea Himers, Abraham, challenger, leopard,F-16 na Sasa mnasherehekea ruhusa ya kushambulia ndani ya Urusi.
Kwa hiyo Urusi akipigwa ndani basi atakua anaokota mabaki ya makombora na kwenda kutupa jalalani sio?
Urusi hatakua na uwezo wa kujibu?
Sasa Mimi nimemjibu huyo mtu wako kulingana na maelezo ya Urusi kama wakimshambulia ndani.
Urusi anasema itapelekea ww3.

Sasa wewe Mmarekani wa kishumundu unabishana na Urusi?
Sababu anazotoa Urusi ni kwamba hayo makombora hayawezi kulenga shabaha bila satellite za nchi yalikotoka Sasa unafikiri Urusi atakaa kimya?
Ndugu yangu sio Kila jambo likisemwa na USA linakosa majibu.

 

[Muite]

Naona na wewe ni walewale TU wa kuamini Kila kinachosemwa na USA na west ni sahihi.
Yaani wewe na wenzako humu mnaonaga kama baada ya Mungu basi anaefuata ni USA.
Ni mambo mangapi USA amedanganya mbele ya media? Na Dunia nzima inashuhidia?
Mfano Iraq Ina silaha za maangamizi.
Sasa Leo hii kama kawaida yenu pro NATO hua mna sherehe za mda mfupi sana,mlisherehekea Juveline,mkasherehekea Himers, Abraham, challenger, leopard,F-16 na Sasa mnasherehekea ruhusa ya kushambulia ndani ya Urusi.
Kwa hiyo Urusi akipigwa ndani basi atakua anaokota mabaki ya makombora na kwenda kutupa jalalani sio?
Urusi hatakua na uwezo wa kujibu?
Sasa Mimi nimemjibu huyo mtu wako kulingana na maelezo ya Urusi kama wakimshambulia ndani.
Urusi anasema itapelekea ww3.

Sasa wewe Mmarekani wa kishumundu unabishana na Urusi?
Sababu anazotoa Urusi ni kwamba hayo makombora hayawezi kulenga shabaha bila satellite za nchi yalikotoka Sasa unafikiri Urusi atakaa kimya?
Ndugu yangu sio Kila jambo likisemwa na USA linakosa majibu.

Muda una thamani sana kwetu sisi wengine. Sijasoma kwasababu ninajua gazeti refu hivyo lina uzito wa gunia la Pamba

 

[goswe]

Uskatike sana bibie,bado naandaa moto🤩😍🤩😍🤩




🇩🇪🇺🇦 Germany is preparing to provide Ukraine with 4,000 Mini-Taurus UAVs with artificial intelligence, which makes them virtually invulnerable to Russian EW and GPS jamming, - Bild

❗️Starting in December, several hundred such drones will be delivered every month.

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Gamechanger

 

[goswe]

Naona watu wana mixed feeling kuhusu hili la long range, kuruhusiwa ni kitu kingine
na kuwa na hizo silaha ni kitu kingine.
Nilikuwa najiuliza kwanini last week. Russia alikuwa anarusha makombora all over Ukraine hadi covert intelligence post ya Ufaransa ikapigwa missile kumbe ishu ilikuwa hii.
Amepewa ruhusu, ishu sasa ni kupewa hizo silaha zenyewe, sababu zilizokuwepo nyingi zimekula kiberiti kwenye warehou.

kitendo cha Urusi kushambulia energy facility hasa zenye link na military ammo depot pamoja na njia nyingi za kusafirisha hasa railway kutokea Lviv na Odessa port ni ku disrupt logistic and supply chain.

Nadhani wakati west wanataka kupunguza kasi ya Urusi na counter offensive ya kursk kabla ya Jan 6, Urusi nae anataka kuongeza maeneo zaidi kabla ya hiyo tarehe na either kuikomboa kursk yote au wanajesh waliopo hapo na merceneries kuwa hostage.
Kuna siku 30, za fierce crush na missile exchange ngoja tuone

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