LIVE Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Mzee Ngonyani said:

Kuna msemo alisema Trump11 kuwa warus ni watu wavita kwahiyo kupambana hao nikupoteza muda.

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Alisema Russia ni war machine.

Muite said:

Kuna namna nyingine West wanataka ku deal na Russia. Kumaliza vita na amani iwepo halafu kumuaminisha Putin kuwa mambo yamekaa sawa ikiwa ni pamoja na kutembeleana. Baadae tutasikia Putin anaumwa na kuanza kuipambania Afya yake kwa muda tu na itafikia kipindi hataweza kumudu shughuli za kuendesha serikali, kazi zitafanywa na waziri mkuu. Baadae Taifa litatangaziwa kuwa jamaa Mwendo kaumaliza. Russia 🇷🇺 itaingozwa na mtawala mwingine atakayekuwa na msimamo wa wastani.

WAYAHUDI NDIO WANAOIONGOZA MAREKANI NA MYAHUDI HAJAWAHI KUSHINDWA.

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Lokole la kibaigwa linasema Yahudi hajawahi shindwa. Nebuchadnezzar, Rumi na Hitler je, na wao hawakushinda dhidi ya Muyahudi?

13 Feb, 2025 20:27

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SUMMARY YA VITA MPAKA SASA

Russia imepata yafuatayo:
1. Nchi imeongezeka kwa kuchukua sehemu ya Ukraine
2. Ameweka Heshima duniani na kwa West
3. Ukraine haitajiunga NATO

Ukraine imepata yafuatayo
1. Kapoteza Majimbo yaliyochukuliwa na Russia
2. Nchi imevunjwa vunjwa
3. Jeshi limedhoofika
4. Kakosa ujumbe wa NATO
5. Ile misaada ya Biden imegeuka kuwa deni atalipa na riba

USA wamepata yafuatayo
1. Imefanya biashara ya silaha kwa Ukraine
2. Mkopo utalipwa kwa riba
3. Maslahi ya US kwanza sio ya NATO wala EU

NATO/EU Wamepata yafuatayo
1. Misaada na media zao hazijaisaidia kitu Ukraine
2. Russia imeimarika zaidi kiuchumi na Kiuhusiano
3. Wamebaki na aibu

mito said:

Kwa huu msimamo wa US ni dhahiri Urusi yake yametimia, hivo BRICS haitaangaika tena na dollar ya marekani

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Hapana ,sidhani kama brics iliundwa kuja kupambana na USD,Bali brics iliundwa kwa malengo ya kiuchumi kama zilivyo G7,Opec,Agoa, Shanghai cooperation,EU,SADC,Ecowas n.k.
Ingawa USD itapewa upinzani ndani ya umoja huo kwa sababu fedha ni moja ya nyenzo za kiuchumi.

Hata EU nao Wana Euro.
Kwa hiyo brics nao watakua wana aina Yao ya fedha .

zebri said:

SUMMARY YA VITA MPAKA SASA

Russia imepata yafuatayo:
1. Nchi imeongezeka kwa kuchukua sehemu ya Ukraine
2. Ameweka Heshima duniani na kwa West
3. Ukraine haitajiunga NATO

Ukraine imepata yafuatayo
1. Kapoteza Majimbo yaliyochukuliwa na Russia
2. Nchi imevunjwa vunjwa
3. Jeshi limedhoofika
4. Kakosa ujumbe wa NATO
5. Ile misaada ya Biden imegeuka kuwa deni atalipa na riba

USA wamepata yafuatayo
1. Imefanya biashara ya silaha kwa Ukraine
2. Mkopo utalipwa kwa riba
3. Maslahi ya US kwanza sio ya NATO wala EU

NATO/EU Wamepata yafuatayo
1. Misaada na media zao hazijaisaidia kitu Ukraine
2. Russia imeimarika zaidi kiuchumi na Kiuhusiano
3. Wamebaki na aibu

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Hii nimeipenda sana kiongozi.

zebri said:

SUMMARY YA VITA MPAKA SASA

Russia imepata yafuatayo:
1. Nchi imeongezeka kwa kuchukua sehemu ya Ukraine
2. Ameweka Heshima duniani na kwa West
3. Ukraine haitajiunga NATO

Ukraine imepata yafuatayo
1. Kapoteza Majimbo yaliyochukuliwa na Russia
2. Nchi imevunjwa vunjwa
3. Jeshi limedhoofika
4. Kakosa ujumbe wa NATO
5. Ile misaada ya Biden imegeuka kuwa deni atalipa na riba

USA wamepata yafuatayo
1. Imefanya biashara ya silaha kwa Ukraine
2. Mkopo utalipwa kwa riba
3. Maslahi ya US kwanza sio ya NATO wala EU

NATO/EU Wamepata yafuatayo
1. Misaada na media zao hazijaisaidia kitu Ukraine
2. Russia imeimarika zaidi kiuchumi na Kiuhusiano
3. Wamebaki na aibu

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Kwani ki-rat anasemaje? Je, anakubaliana na hoja hizi?

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Trump ana mikwara kweli kweli

Drifter said:

Hakuna fundisho hapo. Ukweli hupanda ngazi. Nani yuko sahihi itajulikana muda si mrefu. Just a matter of time.

Halafu Marekani sio ile ile siku zote. Inadhibitiwa na demokrasia. Trump sio Rais wa kudumu.

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Hii democrasi umeona wapi imebadilisha chocho hapao marekani

Proved said:

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Trump ana mikwara kweli kweli

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Hii ni january, tuko february.
U.S, lazima atake kumaliza vita haraka angalau sehemu yoye ya madini muhimu isiondoke
maana kama Urusi akivuka mto dnipro itakuwa total lost kwao.
America hayuko pale kwa Ukraine au kutetea raia bali ni interest

zebri said:

SUMMARY YA VITA MPAKA SASA

Russia imepata yafuatayo:
1. Nchi imeongezeka kwa kuchukua sehemu ya Ukraine
2. Ameweka Heshima duniani na kwa West
3. Ukraine haitajiunga NATO

Ukraine imepata yafuatayo
1. Kapoteza Majimbo yaliyochukuliwa na Russia
2. Nchi imevunjwa vunjwa
3. Jeshi limedhoofika
4. Kakosa ujumbe wa NATO
5. Ile misaada ya Biden imegeuka kuwa deni atalipa na riba

USA wamepata yafuatayo
1. Imefanya biashara ya silaha kwa Ukraine
2. Mkopo utalipwa kwa riba
3. Maslahi ya US kwanza sio ya NATO wala EU

NATO/EU Wamepata yafuatayo
1. Misaada na media zao hazijaisaidia kitu Ukraine
2. Russia imeimarika zaidi kiuchumi na Kiuhusiano
3. Wamebaki na aibu

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Vita hivi vya Russia na Ukraine imejaa
Upenzi ushabiki na kuamini
Pro Russia na Pro America
Kila moja na upenzi wake anaamini wamepata mafanikio
Wasiio upande wao ni losers
Trump kawaunga pro Russia kumpenda sio pro America
Bali hatamsaidia Ukraine hivyo atashindwa Russia ataibuka kidedea
Nilivyo wafatiria Wa America hawatabiriki hugeuka wakati wowote mradi maslahi yawe upande wao

Simon10 said:

Tanzania bila Dar (Bandari, Iring & Ruvuma (Kilimo), Geita na Arudha (Madini), tutakuwa kwenye hali gani

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Unaijua Israel? Nitajie utajili wa madini na maliasili nyingine walizobazo

🚨🇺🇸 JD VANCE WARNS PUTIN: ‘SANCTIONS OR MILITARY ACTION’ IF UKRAINE WAR CONTINUES

@JDVance issued a stark warning to Putin, stating that the U.S. will escalate economic sanctions and potentially deploy military force if Russia refuses to negotiate an end to the Ukraine war.

VP Vance:

“There are economic tools of leverage, there are of course military tools of leverage,”

Vance made it clear that all options, including troop deployment, are on the table if Moscow doesn’t act in good faith.

With the war nearing three years, Washington appears ready to tighten the screws on Putin.

Source: NY Post

U.S. President Donald Trump's special envoy for Ukraine and Russia, Keith Kellogg, said in an interview with Fox News on Feb. 13 that "formalizing Ukraine’s territorial losses" in a potential peace deal "will not equate to recognizing them."

kp kipanya44 said:

U.S. President Donald Trump's special envoy for Ukraine and Russia, Keith Kellogg, said in an interview with Fox News on Feb. 13 that "formalizing Ukraine’s territorial losses" in a potential peace deal "will not equate to recognizing them."

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Hatutambui kwamba tumepoteza ardhi ya Ukreni, ila tunarasimisha upotevu huo. What a joke!

Ni sawa na mtu akunyang'anye gari lako, halafu unampatia na kadi yako ya gari, ukimsihi eti yaishe!

enzo1988 said:

13 Feb, 2025 20:27

Biden’s NATO promise to Ukraine provoked conflict – Trump

US President Donald Trump has blamed the conflict on his predecessor Joe Biden’s support for Ukraine’s bid to join the bloc

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BREAKING:

🇺🇲🇷🇺 US Vice President JD Vance warned Putin that if he does not accept a deal, the US will take "military actions" towards Russia and deploy troops to Ukraine - WSJ

Vice President JD Vance said Thursday that the U.S. would hit Moscow with sanctions and potentially military action if Russian President Vladimir Putin won’t agree to a peace deal with Ukraine that guarantees Kyiv’s long-term independence.

Vance said the option of sending U.S. troops to Ukraine if Moscow failed to negotiate in good faith remained “on the table

“There are economic tools of leverage, there are of course military tools of leverage” the U.S. could use against Putin, Vance said.

kp kipanya44 said:

US Vice President JD Vance warned Putin that if he does not accept a deal, the US will take "military actions" towards Russia and deploy troops to Ukraine - WSJ

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Macron: 'Peace that is a capitulation' in Ukraine would be 'bad news' for all​

Issued on: 14/02/2025 - 02:45

kp kipanya44 said:

Vice President JD Vance said Thursday that :

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kp kipanya44 said:

“There are economic tools of leverage

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