Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

U.S. President Donald Trump's special envoy for Ukraine and Russia, Keith Kellogg, attended a panel discussion during the Munich Security Conference on Feb. 15 where he called for the the U.S. to implement additional sanctions on Russia's "shadow fleet," while also calling for concessions from both countries to secure a peace deal.
 
kp kipanya44 said:
Hapo kesho utasikia Trump anamwambia Putin " zungumza na zelensinky au uwekewe vikwazo uchumi wako uporomoke"
Na nyumbu wote watarudi mashimoni🤩., upepo ukivuma Tena upande wao wanajitokeza Tena,hii ndio staili ya huu Uzi🏃🏃
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Kwani mmebakiza vikwazo gani maana si mlimaliza vikwazo vya uchumi, mkasema miezi 6 tu Urusi itakuwa kama Zimbambwe.

Ebu jiongeze na wewe hata kidogo.yani mtu kawekewa vikwazo vya uchumi alafu uchumi wake ndo umezidi kukuwa baada ya kushuka.sasa unategemea utafanya nini hapo
 
Lancet- hata ukijificha chumbani inakufikia.🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
 

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BUSH BIN LADEN said:
Soon mtaelewa tunaposema EU na NATO ni mikono ya US anayotumia kuitawala dunia. Haijalishi sera na maamuzi ya USA ya mambo ya nje ina walakini na haieleweki kiasi gani mwisho wa siku EU na NATO wataitekeleza tu. Subiri uone ikiwa Trump atakutana na Putin, baada ya hapo viongozi wa magharibi mmoja mmoja wataanza kukutana na Putin hata kishingo upande kunegotiate namna ya kumaliza huu mgogoro.
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Baba Yako anapomsalimia adui Yako Kwa bashasha mbele Yako, utafanyanye?
 
kp kipanya44 said:
Hapo kesho utasikia Trump anamwambia Putin " zungumza na zelensinky au uwekewe vikwazo uchumi wako uporomoke"
Na nyumbu wote watarudi mashimoni🤩., upepo ukivuma Tena upande wao wanajitokeza Tena,hii ndio staili ya huu Uzi🏃🏃
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Mara nyingi ukiwaona wengine ni wajinga kutokana na misimamo yao au maoni Yao wewe unayeona hivyo ndo mjinga mwenyewe, heshimu maoni ya wengine .
 

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Watu wanaenda kujadili mustakabali wa nchi yako lakini wewe huusishwi kwachochote lakini utekelezaji wa maamuzi ni lazima uyatii. Alafu kuna watu hapa jukwaani wanadhani Ukraine ndio ipo vitani na Urusi. Zelensky ni aina ya viongozi wa ajabu sana kuwahi kutokea katika karne hii ya 21 tena barani Ulaya.

Nchi yake imevamiwa anapewa maelekezo asikubali makubaliano yoyote ya amani na anajitungia sheria kuwa hatakaa kwenye meza ya mazungumzo na Urusi. Leo hii ardhi yenye vito ya Donbas ipo chini ya uvamizi, waliomtuma kuichokoza Urusi wameona haiwezekani kumshinda Urusi wakaona wakubaliane na Urusi kumaliza mgogoro lakini Zelensky hajui huko Saudia watajadili nini. Mazungumzo ya simu baina ya Putin na Trump ni wazi kuwa Marekani wamefanya tathmini yao kuwa kwa namna yoyote Urusi haiwezi kushindwa kwenye uwanja wa vita, Trump hataki nchi yake ipate hasara ya kumwaga mabilioni ya dola huku Urusi inazidi kusonga mbele kwa kuteka migodi na ardhi ambayo wameona hakutakuwa na uwezekano wa kuikomboa ili wanufaike kwaa misaada na mikopo waliyoitoa kwa Ukraine. Sasa Ukraine imepoteza ardhi, watu, nchi imeharibika na kulemewa na mzigo wa madeni.
 
BUSH BIN LADEN said:
Soon mtaelewa tunaposema EU na NATO ni mikono ya US anayotumia kuitawala dunia. Haijalishi sera na maamuzi ya USA ya mambo ya nje ina walakini na haieleweki kiasi gani mwisho wa siku EU na NATO wataitekeleza tu. Subiri uone ikiwa Trump atakutana na Putin, baada ya hapo viongozi wa magharibi mmoja mmoja wataanza kukutana na Putin hata kishingo upande kunegotiate namna ya kumaliza huu mgogoro.
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Huielewi USA, huielewi EU wala humuelewi Trump. Pengine hata Putin.

Kufikiria kuwa viongozi wa EU watajadiliana na Putin baada ya Trump “kujikomba” kwa Putin ni kutoelewa kabisa itikadi na sera zinazoongoza geopolitics za Marekani, EU na Urusi ya Putin.

Mgogoro wa Putin na Zelenskyy tayari umeisha kwa Trump “kuiuza” Ukraine kwa Putin kwa raha zake. Mchezo umeisha kati ya USA, Putin na Ukraine. Period.

EU watabakia kuangalia maslahi yao wenyewe baada ya USA ya Trump kujitenga. Na Putin hawahusu labda aanze kuwatishia kwa lolote ndio wataamua jinsi ya kushughulika naye. EU sio Ukraine (iliyokuwa sehemu muhimu sana ya USSR enzi za vita baridi).
 
Negotiations bado haijawaokoa warusi.wanazidi kuchinjwa tu..,hii ni Jana tu , zaidi ya elf Moja na miasaba walilambishwa mchanga 🥱 🥱 🥱
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Russian offensive near Pokrovsk has slowed down in the past two weeks, - ISW

According to analysts, the offensive of Russian troops south and southwest of Pokrovsk has slowed down in the past two weeks. This is against the background that the Russian command may prioritize offensive operations in the spring and summer of 2025 on Kostyantynivka – the southernmost point of Ukraine's defense line in the Donetsk regio
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enzo1988 said:
kp kipanya44 upo??

15 Feb, 2025 23:43

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Ukraine not invited to Russia-US talks – Zelensky

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Kamata mwizi 🤩🤩🤩

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Success already 'feels possible' after start of collaboration with US officials, Zelensky says

President Volodymyr Zelensky said on Feb. 15 that success “already feels possible” as his administration begins working on negotiations with U.S. President Donald Trump’s team to end the war.
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enzo1988 said:
Huko wanatakiwa wakubwa tu!

15 Feb, 2025 21:01

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Putin-Trump summit expected this month – Bloomberg

US and Russian delegations will meet in Saudi Arabia next week to set the stage for an upcoming summit
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President Volodymyr Zelensky said on Feb. 15 that success “already feels possible” as his administration begins working on negotiations with U.S. President Donald Trump’s team to end the war.
 
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