LIVE Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

LIVE Special Thread: Yanayojiri Mgogoro wa Ukraine na Urusi. Nini chanzo na hatma ya mzozo?

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Naongea kwa kukusisitiza.
Kwanza unajua lengo la Ukraine kuvamia Russia!??
Malengo yalikua matatu;
-Kukamata nuclear plant iliopo Kursk ili iwe kama leverage kipindi cha majadiliano.
-Kupunguza kasi ya mashambulizi ya Russia ndani ya Ukraine.
-Kulipunguza jeshi la Russia ndani ya Ukraine na kulivuta Kursk.

Je kuna kilichofanikiwa!??
Pia nimekuuliza Russia kwa kukiwekea ulinzi kinu cha Kursk na kuweka vizuizi mji wa Sumy ambao Ukraine ndio hutumia kupitisha misaada,unavyodhani wewe anamaanisha nini??
Hofu yetu sisi mashabiki wa Urusi ni Ukraine kuendeleza vita vyake huko Kursk, sasa unaenda mwezi wa pili malengo ya Ukraine hayajafanikiwa, lakini uvamizi huu bado umweka doa au mimi ndio nattizama vibaya mkuu
 
Hofu yetu sisi mashabiki wa Urusi ni Ukraine kuendeleza vita vyake huko Kursk, sasa unaenda mwezi wa pili malengo ya Ukraine hayajafanikiwa, lakini uvamizi huu bado umweka doa au mimi ndio nattizama vibaya mkuu
Skynews na BBC political analysts.
Walisema kuwa uvamizi wa Ukraine ndani ya Kursk ni big blunder kwasababu zifuatazo;
-Askari waliotumiwa Kursk ni most elite force wa Ukraine,hii imesababisha kuacha maeneo mengi wazi Ukraine kwa upungufu wa man power.
-Sumy kumewekewa vizuizi,inamaana Ukraine hatopata access ya kupeleka msaada wa chakula wala silaha ndani ya Kursk kusaidia askari waliomo.Inamaana askari wa Ukraine vitu walivyonavyo iwe silaha,madawa ama vyakula ndivyo walivyonavyo,vikiisha hawana pa kupata njia Russia wameifunga.

Nambie bro hapo Ukraine ana jipya tena!??
Hapo Kursk achana napo,Nazi Germany walipoteza askari wengi hapo Kursk vita ya pili ya dunia.
Tena walikua na jeshi kubwa kuliko.
 
Dah ndugu yangu,hivi wewe na Urusi nani anajua maan ya SMO?
Wao wenyewe waniita SMO,wewe unakuja kupinga.
Hebu kuwa serious basi.
Hebu tuwaachie warusi wenyewe wanaoiona hii smo kua ni smo.
wewe mwafrika mwenzangu pamoja na ujuajibwako wote huu wa masuala ya vita,ujuaji huo wewe ama walimu wako walisomea kwa warusi wachina au wengine.
Urusi ni moja ya nchi yenye vyuo vingi sana vya kijeshi na hao hao ndio sisi tunapeleka raia wetu kwenda kusoma lkn hakuna hata Mrusi mmoja utakae mkuta kwenye vyuo vyetu hutaki acha lkn huo ndio ukweli wenyewe.
Labda kwetu chuo Cha Sanaa Bagamoyo ndio unaweza ukawakuta Warusi wanajifunza Sanaa zetu.
Kwa hiyo kama Urusi wao bado wanaoiona hii smo kua ni smo tuwaachie wao.
Achana na warusi, mimi nimekuuliza wewe kama wewe, Uganda ivamie Kagera alafu sisi Tanzania tuite SMO hiyo inaingiaje akilini?
 
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Umeruka rukaaaa mwisho wa siku tumejua rangi yako na wewe.

Kumbe nawewe ni shabiki tu Bora ungebaki neutral tu.🤓

Kustahimili u-neutral katika huu Uzi ni ngumu sana hasa ukiwa unapenda kuchangia ni lazima utaonesha tu upande wako.

Lililo bora ni kuoneshe tu upande wako mapema Ili utoe ngebe huku watu tunajua wewe ni waupande upi.
NYIE MNAPENDA SANA COMMENT ZA KUWAFURAHISHA MNAYOYAPENDA. MKIONA MTU ANATOA MAONI YANAYOBEBA UPANDE USIOUPENDA MNAKASIRIKA.

HAYA TUFANYE RUSSIA ANAZO HIZO NUCLEAR ZA KUIZAMISHA UK YOTE
 
Dah! hata wewe pia ni mbogo unaejitia mjuaji kama wabongo wengine.
hapa umeongea mambo mengi sana ambayo wewe umeonesha unayajua, kua,IPO siku nukes zote za Urusi zitapigwa,wewe umeyaona haya hivyo unaamini kabisa Urusi hawajayaona haya.
Ingawa najua umeongea mawazo Yako TU.
Kwamba wewe umejua lakini wa Russia wasijue.
Hii bongo Kila mtu ni mjuaji aisee.
Mkosoaji na mkosolewa wote wajuaji.
Mmmmh!! Wewe kweli sio yule mchekeshaji anayeitwa SIDE
 
Skynews na BBC political analysts.
Walisema kuwa uvamizi wa Ukraine ndani ya Kursk ni big blunder kwasababu zifuatazo;
-Askari waliotumiwa Kursk ni most elite force wa Ukraine,hii imesababisha kuacha maeneo mengi wazi Ukraine kwa upungufu wa man power.
-Sumy kumizuiliwa,inamaana Ukraine hatopata access ya kupeleka msaada wa chakula wala silaha ndani ya Kursk kusaidia askari waliomo.Inamaana askari wa Ukraine vitu walivyonvyo iwe silaha,madawa ama vyakula ndivyo walivyonavyo,vikiisha hawana pa kupata njia Russia wameifunga.

Nambie bro hapo Ukraine ana jipya tena!??
Hapo Kursk achana napo,Nazi Germany walipoteza askari wengi hapo Kursk vita ya pili ya dunia.
Tena walikua na jeshi kubwa kuliko.
Wachana na WW2 ambapo USSR ilipewa misaada na marekani, kwanza USSR ilipoteza wanajeshi wengi kuliko walioshindwa vita, tuongelee vita ya Leo ambapo urusi ipo peke ake, nimekuelewa sana mkuu wangu ila ngoja tuone Putin atafanya nini kuhusu uvamizi huu wa Ukraine
 
Achana na warusi, mimi nimekuuliza wewe kama wewe, Uganda ivamie Kagera alafu sisi Tanzania tuite SMO hiyo inaingiaje akilini?
Unajua unachokosea ni kuzifananisha mgogoro uliokua wa Tanzania na Uganda ukifananisha mgogoro wa Urusi na Ukraine hivi ni vitu viwili tofauti.

Tanzania tuliita vita kwa sababu ya malengo yetu yalikua kwenda kumtoa adui kwenye mipaka yetu(Kagera)
Kwetu sisi haikua smo kulingana na ukubwa wa mgogoro wenyewe ukilinganisha na uwezo wetu na uwezo wa adui.
Tanzania tulikua tunaingia vitani na nchi yenye uwezo kama sisi kijeshi na kiuchumi.

Urusi yeye aniita SMO kutokana na malengo yake na jinsi anavyojiona uwezo wake ukilinganisha na nchi anayoenda kukabiliana nayo.
Kumbuka Ukraine Ile kabla NATO hawajingilia.
Urusi Malengo yake alishayasema ni demilitarization na denazification.
Ndani yake ni kuwakomboa wananchi wa Donbas waliokua wakiteswa na serikali ya Ukraine

Wakati Ukraine kwa upande wake yeye aniita vita.
 
Unajua unachokosea ni kuzifananisha mgogoro uliokua wa Tanzania na Uganda ukifananisha mgogoro wa Urusi na Ukraine hivi ni vitu viwili tofauti.

Tanzania tuliita vita kwa sababu ya malengo yetu yalikua kwenda kumtoa adui kwenye mipaka yetu(Kagera)
Kwetu sisi haikua smo kulingana na ukubwa wa mgogoro wenyewe ukilinganisha na uwezo wetu na uwezo wa adui.
Tanzania tulikua tunaingia vitani na nchi yenye uwezo kama sisi kijeshi na kiuchumi.

Urusi yeye aniita SMO kutokana na malengo yake na jinsi anavyojiona uwezo wake ukilinganisha na nchi anayoenda kukabiliana nayo.
Kumbuka Ukraine Ile kabla NATO hawajingilia.
Urusi Malengo yake alishayasema ni demilitarization na denazification.
Ndani yake ni kuwakomboa wananchi wa Donbas waliokua wakiteswa na serikali ya Ukraine

Wakati Ukraine kwa upande wake yeye aniita vita.
Kwahyo kule Kursk bado ni SMO sio
 
Haaahaaa!! Eti UK inaweza futika na kuzamishwa. WABONGO HEBU ACHENI UJUAJI. Yaani wewe unajua kuliko Muingereza mwenyewe. Kama ingekuwa hivyo unafikiri UK angesubutu kuichokoza Russia. Kimsingi hayo mataifa makubwa ya Magharibi yameshafanya tathimini na wanajua Russia anapigika tu na wanachofanya ni hatua kwa hatua kwa kuitumia Ukraine. IPO SIKU DUNIA ITASHANGAZWA ITAKAPOSIKIA NUCLEAR PLANS ZOTE ZA RUSSIA ZIMEPIPIGWA ILI MADHARA YABAKI KWAO HUKOHUKO.

PIA KWENYE HII DUNIA MWENYE JEURI YA KUTAMBIA NUCLEAR NI MAREKANI TU MAANA NI YEYE TU AMBAYE ALIIFANYIA KAZI . WENGINE WANAWEZA KUSEMA WANA NUCLEAR LAKINI KUMBE NI TUI LA TATU LA NAZI
Mkuu kwa komenti hii naomba nimtetee mdau uliekua unamjibu kwa hoja yake ya uwezo wa Urusi kuifuta UK katika uso wa Dunia.
Naamini hata yeye sio maneno yake,nadhani ni kutokana na kusoma kutoka makala mbalimbali ambazo zinaelezea uwezo huo wa makombora ya Urusi yawezayo kuzifuta nchi Kam UK France na mji kama Texas.
Sasa kama wao walitudangaya sisi sio kosa letu.
Tumesoma maandiko Yao.

Kama kombora moja TU la Satan 2 linaweza kuifuta ufaransa na sehemu ya jiji la Texas,je UK inahitaji kupigwa kwa makombora mangapi?
Tunahisi Urusi anayo zaidi ya 100


The Economic Times

Satan 2: Russia unveils deadly nuclear missile that can wipe out an area the size of Texas and France


The missile has been designed with stealth technology, means that it can be fired at a target without being detected by enemy radars.
By Shaurya Karanbir Gurung, ET Online
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Last Updated: Oct 26, 2016, 07:02:00 PM IST34
NEW DELHI: Russia has unveiled the first image of its beast of a nuclear missile called the RS-28 Sarmat, also known as Satan-2.

It is Russia’s new super-heavy thermonuclear-armed intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), which can wipe out parts of the earth the size of Texas and France, according to Russia’s Zvezda TV channel. The missile is capable of targeting major cities of the UK and other European nations. It has an estimated range of 10,000 kilometres.

The Sarmat is set to replace the RS-36, a family of ICBMs and space launch vehicles that entered service in the 1970s, according to Sputnik. The replacement will happen by 2020, according to Russia Today. The multi warhead missile is expected to carry up to 10 heavy warheads or 16 lighter ones or a combination of both. It will also have counter-measures to overpower enemy missile defences
 
Kwahyo kule Kursk bado ni SMO sio
Dah!
unapenda sana ligi za kishule ya sekondari.
Sasa Mimi nakuambia uvamizi wa kursk ni sehemu ya SMO.
Kwa sababu smo ndio umepelekea Ukraine kujibu kwa kuvamia kursk.
Hao wavamizi wanapigwa Kila siku na watashindwa TU.
Tatizo lenu nyinyi mnataka waondolewa Kwa siku moja Kwa wao Ukraine ni wajinga?
Unaambiwa waliondoa wanajeshi Bora kutoka ndani ya Ukraine kuja kursk kwa hiyo wanajua mbinu za kukabilaina na majeshi ya Urusi.

Unaona wanavyoiandika wenyewe?

MILITARY OPERATION IN UKRAINE
11 SEP, 14:08

Ukraine’s army loses over 350 troops in Kursk area over past day — Russia’s top brass

in the Kursk area, the enemy has lost over 12,200
 
The ministry noted that over the period of combat operations in the Kursk area, the enemy has lost over 12,200 personnel, 96 tanks, 42 infantry fighting vehicles
MOSCOW, September 11. /TASS/. The Ukrainian armed forces have lost over 350 servicemen and 13 armored vehicles, including three tanks, in the borderline Kursk area over the past 24 hours, the Russian Defense Ministry reported on Wednesday.

"Over the past 24 hours, the Ukrainian army’s losses amounted to over 350 personnel and 13 armored vehicles, including three tanks, three armored personnel carriers, seven armored combat vehicles, as well as an artillery gun, two multiple rocket launch systems and 19 motor vehicles," the ministry said in a statement.

The ministry added that over the period of combat operations in the Kursk area, the enemy has lost over 12,200 personnel, 96 tanks, 42 infantry fighting vehicles, 77 armored personnel carriers, 656 armored combat vehicles, 401 motor vehicles, 90 artillery guns, 26 multiple launch rocket systems, including seven HIMARS rocket launchers and five M270 MLRS, eight surface-to-air missile systems, two transporter-loader vehicles, 22 electronic warfare stations and seven counter-battery radar stations, two air-defense radar systems, eight engineering vehicles, among them two obstacle-clearing vehicles and one UR-77 mine-clearing vehicle.
 
11 SEP, 11:27
Rada admits Ukrainian army struggles in Kursk Region

On September 11, Major General Apty Alaudinov, commander of the Akhmat special forces commando unit, reported that the Russian army had liberated several settlements in the Kursk Region

MOSCOW, September 11. /TASS/. The situation in Russia's Kursk Region is challenging for the Ukrainian armed forces, Verkhovna Rada member Alexey Goncharenko (listed as terrorist and extremist in Russia) has recognized.

"The situation is tense," he wrote on his Telegram channel, commenting on the developments in the Kursk Region.

On September 11, Major General Apty Alaudinov, commander of the Akhmat special forces commando unit, reported that the Russian army had liberated several settlements in the Kursk Region. Additionally, security services informed TASS that Ukrainian troops did not retrieve either wounded or deceased soldiers during the recent battles in the region. Earlier, Ukrainian armed forces Commander-in-Chief Alexander Syrsky admitted that by attacking the Kursk area Kiev wanted to divert significant forces of the Russian army from the Krasnoarmeysk (Ukrainian name is Pokrovsk) direction, but the attempt failed.
 
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