Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe

Kiranga · Oct 18, 2018

Kizito Dickson said:
May be I should use a simple linguistic analogy
Someone is online with profile that gives you and idea of him/her
It does not mean that this person exists or does not exists in a way that he has described himself online.But you,another person online at this time and place have access to this information only and it is your only way to understand this person who is virtual.So in making decision of whether this person exists as described you will not overlook the possibility that he does not exist as described.Therefore,whether he exists as described or not is an endless debate but the two way assertions may close the debate until at such time and place when you can confirm either without doubt.

I therefore think that I who believe that God exist am correct and you who believe that God does not exist are correct. It is therefore impossible for one argument to refute the other and itself remaining without the existence of the third person GOD to prove his own existence

It is better to therefore leave the burden of proof of his existence on Gods hand and use our feeble mind and ability to make this world a better place

You are describing a totally different thing.

Nobody disputes that the idea of God exists, which is what you are doing abracadabra about.

But that does not mean God exists.

Let's say, extending your analogy, there someone who has an online ID (some human person/s who wrote the Bible) and that someone is using an online ID of "Kiranga the Singularity", claiming that he is the shit,and his shit don't stink, in fact he shits diamonds cry Versace Eros, pee Aqua di Gio and spit jewels.

If someone, call him Skeptic says this Kiranga who shits Diamonds, cry Versace Eros and spit jewels does not exist, he is a myth, a fabrication of someone who has made up this whole story. The story is not logically consistent with observed reality.

Will Skeptic be wrong? Will it be true that this Kiranga exists and does not exist at the same time?

What kind of wishy-washy, fence sitting chameleon, flip-flopping liberal art free ranging avant--garde utopian laissez-faire school of thought is that?

KijanaHuru · Oct 18, 2018

Angalia Matukio Haya Kama Utani Kisha Malizia swali Kwa Kulijibu

Mwaka 2017 Stephen Hawking Alisema "Hakuna Mungu"
Mwaka 2018 Mungu Kasema "Hakuna Stephen Hawking"
Mwaka 2018 Kiranga Amesema "Hakuna Mungu"
Mwaka 2019 Mungu Atasema ''Hakuna ____________''😀😀😀😀
Hebu Jaza Nasafi Iliyoachwa Wazi

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Kisai · Oct 18, 2018

Kiranga said:
Hujathibitisha Mungu yupo.

Hujathibitisha roho ipo.

Hujathibitisha pepo ipo.

Kwa nini?

Kwa sababu huwezi.

Kwa nini huwezi?

Kwa sababu Mungu,roho na pepo havipo. Ni vitu vilivyotungwa na watu tu.

Kamaunabisha, thibitisha vipo.

Mimi na wewe kuhusu hili tulishamalizana kitambo sana. .... Hapo huna hoja bro.

General Mangi · Oct 19, 2018

Ushawahi shuhudia nguvu ya miujiza za mungu?

Sky Eclat said:
Watadai ni force of gravity lakini ajabu ni kuwa force hiyo haina nguvu ya kutenda miujiza

masoud mshahara · Oct 19, 2018

Kiranga said:
Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe
By Brandon Specktor, Senior Writer | October 17, 2018 04:23pm ET

Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe

In a new book that was published posthumously, Stephen Hawking, who died in March, wrote that it is impossible for God to exist in our universe.

From his desk at Cambridge University and beyond, Stephen Hawking sent his mind spiraling into the deepest depths of black holes, radiating across the endless cosmos and swirling back billions of years to witness time's first breath. He viewed creation as a scientist, and when he was called to discuss creation's biggest puzzles — Where do we come from? What is our purpose? Are we alone? — he answered as a scientist, often to the chagrin of religious critics.

In Stephen Hawking's final book "Brief Answers to Big Questions," published Tuesday (Oct. 16) by Bantam Books, the professor begins a series of 10 intergalactic essays by addressing life's oldest and most religiously fraught question of all: Is there a God? [Big Bang to Civilization: 10 Amazing Origin Events]

Hawking's answer — compiled from decades of prior interviews, essays and speeches with the help of his family, colleagues and the Steven Hawking Estate — should come as no surprise to readers who have followed his work, er, religiously.

Credit: Frederick M. Brown/Getty Images

"I think the universe was spontaneously created out of nothing, according to the laws of science," Hawking, who died in March, wrote. "If you accept, as I do, that the laws of nature are fixed, then it doesn't take long to ask: What role is there for God?"
In life, Hawking was a vocal champion of the Big Bang theory — the idea that the universe began by exploding suddenly out of an ultradense singularity smaller than an atom. From this speck emerged all the matter, energy and empty space that the universe would ever contain, and all that raw material evolved into the cosmos we perceive today by following a strict set of scientific laws. To Hawking and many like-minded scientists, the combined laws of gravity, relativity, quantum physics and a few other rules could explain everything that ever happened or ever will happen in our known universe.
"If you like, you can say the laws are the work of God, but that is more a definition of God than a proof of his existence," Hawking wrote.

With the universe running on a scientifically guided autopilot, the only role for an all-powerful deity might be setting the initial conditions of the universe so that those laws could take shape — a divine creator who caused the Big Bang to bang, then stepped back to behold His work.

"Did God create the quantum laws that allowed the Big Bang to occur?" Hawking wrote. "I have no desire to offend anyone of faith, but I think science has a more compelling explanation than a divine creator."
Hawking's explanation begins with quantum mechanics, which explains how subatomic particles behave. In quantum studies, it's common to see subatomic particles like protons and electrons seemingly appear out of nowhere, stick around for a while and then disappear again to a completely different location. Because the universe was once the size of a subatomic particle itself, it's plausible that it behaved similarly during the Big Bang, Hawking wrote.
"The universe itself, in all its mind-boggling vastness and complexity, could simply have popped into existence without violating the known laws of nature," he wrote.

That still doesn't explain away the possibility that God created that proton-size singularity, then flipped the quantum- mechanical switch that allowed it to pop. But Hawking says science has an explanation here, too. To illustrate, he points to the physics of black holes — collapsed stars that are so dense, nothing, including light, can escape their pull.
Black holes, like the universe before the Big Bang, condense into a singularity. In this ultra-packed point of mass, gravity is so strong that it distorts time as well as light and space. Simply put, in the depths of a black hole, time does not exist.

Because the universe also began as a singularity, time itself could not have existed before the Big Bang. Hawking's answer, then, to what happened before the Big Bang is, "there was no time before the Big Bang."

"We have finally found something that doesn’t have a cause, because there was no time for a cause to exist in," Hawking wrote. "For me this means that there is no possibility of a creator, because there is no time for a creator to have existed in."

This argument will do little to persuade theistic believers, but that was never Hawking's intent. As a scientist with a near-religious devotion to understanding the cosmos, Hawking sought to "know the mind of God" by learning everything he could about the self-sufficient universe around us. While his view of the universe might render a divine creator and the laws of nature incompatible, it still leaves ample space for faith, hope, wonder and, especially, gratitude.

"We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe," Hawking concludes the first chapter of his final book, "and for that I am extremely grateful."
Originally published on Live Science.

cc James Comey

Ameongea maneno mazuri kabisa huyu kweli ni profesor

masoud mshahara · Oct 19, 2018

ngosha wa mwanza said:
Kwanza ww naona huamin km Mungu yupo?hivi ww unaupima uwezo wa Mungu hapo ulipo ni kwa neema za Mungu tu na endelea kuwaamini hao machizi wanaoona mtu alie tengeneza mti wa muembe ujue ni wakati upi uzae na upime kiasi cha sukari ktk matunda yake ni mpuuzi.Kama vitu hivi tuvitumiavo vina wangunduzi ila inapofika kwa binadam unasema hakuumbwa alitokea tu sijui na upupu wa bing bang theory aghaaaa

Namna hii mtoa mada katu hawezi kuelewa

Aqua · Oct 19, 2018

Kiranga said:
Hujathibitisha Mungu yupo.

Hujathibitisha roho ipo.

Hujathibitisha pepo ipo.

Kwa nini?

Kwa sababu huwezi.

Kwa nini huwezi?

Kwa sababu Mungu,roho na pepo havipo. Ni vitu vilivyotungwa na watu tu.

Kamaunabisha, thibitisha vipo.

Kiranga Bwana Yesu asifiwe?Mimi najua wewe ni msomim lakini naomba leo uwe mkweli.
Swali langu kwako msomi wewe ni :Je roboti ilyotengenezwa na mwanadamu inaweza kuprove kwamba kuna mwanadamu yupo?
Jibu ndiyo roboti inaweza au hapana roboti haiwezi tofauti na hapo utakuwa unadanganya.

Pure_sapiens · Oct 19, 2018

Read btn the lines. Utaelewa hoja yangu

Kiranga said:
Unaelewa ukianza kwa kusema hakuna mji/ mjengo usio na mjenzi, umesema kwamba hakuna Mungu?

G.Jacob · Oct 19, 2018

Hahaa Kiranga bwana kweli una kiranga mana unashadadia tamko la mtu mmoja tena la kihisia kuukataa uwepo wa mungu
mambo ya kiroho ama kiimani hayana ubayana wake zaidi ya hisia za kuamini au kutoamini tu basi

Kiranga · Oct 19, 2018

The Greater Man said:
wewe mjamaaa Kila
siku unakimbilia huko tu.
sasa mwenzako chamoto anakipata

Hujaeleweka.

Mjamaa unayemuongelea ni nani?

Aanakimbilia wapi?

Kwa nini?

Mwenzako ni nani?

Chamoto anakipata kivipi?

Unathibitishaje?

Kiranga · Oct 19, 2018

forumyangu said:
Read btn the lines. Utaelewa hoja yangu

Hujajibu swali nilolokuuliza.

Unaelewa kwamba ukisema hakuna nyumba isiyo na mjenzi unasema hakuna Mungu?

kauga JR · Oct 19, 2018

Ni mtu aliyepotea.

Kiranga · Oct 19, 2018

G.Jacob said:
Hahaa Kiranga bwana kweli una kiranga mana unashadadia tamko la mtu mmoja tena la kihisia kuukataa uwepo wa mungu
mambo ya kiroho ama kiimani hayana ubayana wake zaidi ya hisia za kuamini au kutoamini tu basi

Hili si tamko la mtu mmoja, watu wamesema habari hizi malefu na maelfu ya miaka. Sasa hivi , nitakuwa naweka vitabu sana tu watu wasome kama wanaweza.

Soma hiki kitabu kizuri sana, kina mazungumzo yote, ya kutetea uwepo wa Mungu na ya kupinga uwepo wa Mungu.

Kinaitwa "Philosophy of Religion, An Aanthology".

Nilipokisoma hiki kitabu mwanzo mpaka mwisho, nikiwa na miaka 19, ndipo nilipoanza kujua kwamba habari za kuwepo Mungu ni za kutungwa na watu tu.

Mambo yasiyopo hayathibitishiki na ndipo hapo utaambiwa ni ya kiroho au imani tu.

Relativity ya Aalbert Einstein ilikuwa ni imani tu ambayo Einstein alikuwa nayo kutokana na mahesabu na thought experiments.

Sir Aarthur Eddington akaihakiki imani hii kwa majaribio mwaka 1919, ikaonekana imesimama katika ukweli.

Leo hii GPS, satellite mpaka hii internet tunayotumia vinatumia Relativity ya Einstein, si imani tu tena, imethibitishwa kuwa ukweli kwa vitendo.

Sasa huyo Mungu mbona miaka nenda miaka rudi hathibitishwi kuwapo?

Unajua kwa nini?

Kwa sababu hayupo.

Soma wasomi wanavyobishana hapa kwenye kitabu, kama unaweza.

Kiranga · Oct 19, 2018

The Greater Man said:
una hoja za kitoto sana
sema na bahat mbaya una amini ni za kweli

Hujazijibu.

Bora ungeshindwa kuzijibu za kikubwa tungeweza kusema zimekushinda kimo.

Lakini kushindwa kujibu hoja za kitoto ni jambo la aibu sana.

Kiranga · Oct 19, 2018

Travic said:
Kiranga nilidhani tutaendelea hapa maana ulihoji kituko mzee wangu!

Mazee kunradhi sana leo nilitingwa kuna hela kubwa nilikuwa naifanyia kazi, nimefanikisha.

Kwa hivyo usione kama uzi nimeususa, nilikuwa najenga taifa, hahahaha.

Sasa nimepata wasaa napitia kusoma majibu na nukuu, na tunazosemezana nazijibu zote.

Sina hulka wala wajihi wa kukimbia mjadala. Kiranga hajaogopa challenge tangu udogo, na hatarajii kuanza mchezo huo ukubwani.

Aaligyata Zurri hapa na hesabu zake za division by zero, mpaka akaomba msamaha nilivyomuonesha alipochemka.

Kunya na kufa ni mapungufu.

1. Kunya ni kutoa waste products. Katika engineering, waste product ni alama ya inefficiency. Tunakunya kwa sababu miili yetu inashindwa kutumia chakula chote tunachokula, kinasagwa, kingine tunakunya. Uchafu wa mavi pia unasababisha hatari nyingi sana za magonjwa. Watu wamekufa kwa miaka na miaka kwa wadudu wanaotokana na uchafu wa mavi. Huyo Mungu gani mkatili atupe mimavi tunatembea nayo tumboni, tunahitaji kunya kunya kila mara, tunapata magonjwa ya uchafu kutoka kwenye mavi. Ukiangalia habari ya kunya unasema kama kuna engineer ka engineer mfumo wa mtu, kama hana uwezo wote tutaelewa alifanya alichoweza, lakini haiwezekani mfumo huu uwe umeumbwa na akili yenye uwezo wote, ujuzi wote na upendo wote.

Tungekuwa tumeumbwa na Mungu tusingekunya in such a wasteful way, tusingekunya uchafu unaosababisha magonjwa hivyo.

Ni kama vile unasema Mungu katengeneza gari linalotumia mafuta na kutoa moshi, kwa nini hakuumba ambalo halitumii mafuta wala kutoa moshi?

2. Kifo ni kitu kibaya, kinatenganisha wapendanao. Baba na Mama, wazazi na mtoto, kaka na dada. Humu wengi tumepitia machungu ya kufiwa.

Story za dini jinsi kifo kilivyotokea zinaonesha kifo ni mapungufu katika upendo wa Mungu. Ni kama vile baba ambaye alitakiwa kumlinda mtoto wake mchanga anayetambaa asigongwe na gari barabarani, akamuachia mtoto yule mchanga awezekwenda barabarani na kugongwa na gari.

Sasa huyu Mungu mjuzi wa yote, mwenye uwezo wote na upendo wote, kwa nini kaumba ulimwengu ambao kifo kinawezekana wakati aliweza kuumba ulimwengu ambao kifo hakiwezekani? Huyu Mungu mbona katukatili hivi?

Yupo kweli huyu? Au ni hadithi tu?

Kiranga · Oct 19, 2018

kibol said:
I think am interested brother, given the fact that i have been following your comments and post here at Jf since 2009, i can dare say you are one among prominent figures that has reshape my way of thinking and observing the universe, thanks a lot brother Kiranga

Tunajengana ndugu yangu.

Mimi si mjuzi sana, ila ni msemaji sana.

Kuna wajuzi hao wameamua kukaa kimya.

Ma Profesa na Madaktari, Wanasheria na Makasisi wakubwa.

Wamesoma falsafa na dini, udaktari na sheria, unajimu na fizikia.

Wako kimya tu.

Wengine wanasoma tu wanaondoka, wanaona kujadili hapa ni ... aaah

Kiranga · Oct 19, 2018

Mwanyasi said:
Neither did I find a point from you

It's a singularity, you have neither the requisite wattage nor the mathematical tools.

Kiranga · Oct 19, 2018

Aqua said:
Kiranga do you know where the boundaries of the universe are located?Can science provide the answer to this question?
Assumptions,Assumptions with little truth may seem as truth to someone without the knowledge of God and that is how science is to those who do not believe there is God.They think science is the solution to their problem,am no saying scientists are completely wrong,they have just a piece of the whole knowledge unfortunately those who believe there is no God they think scientists have it all.
Kiranga mpokee Yesu leo,hizi elimu za duniania si mbaya kuzijua ila kama zitakufanya useme hakuna Mungu ni bora ungebaki kijijini kwenu unalima na kufuga ng'ombe.

Hata kama Science si solution, hilo halimaanishi automatically kwa sababu science si solution, Mungu yupo.

Inawezekana Science si solution kwa sababu Mungu hayupo.

Angekuwepo angeweza kutupa Science yenye majibu yote kwa pamoja, kwa upendo wake.

Ila kwa sababu Mungu hayupo, inabidi tuhangaike wenyewe kutafuta majibu kwa njia ndefu na ngumu.

Ushawahi kufikiri hivyo?

Kiranga · Oct 19, 2018

KijanaHuru said:
Angalia Matukio Haya Kama Utani Kisha Malizia swali Kwa Kulijibu

Mwaka 2017 Stephen Hawking Alisema "Hakuna Mungu"
Mwaka 2018 Mungu Kasema "Hakuna Stephen Hawking"
Mwaka 2018 Kiranga Amesema "Hakuna Mungu"
Mwaka 2019 Mungu Atasema ''Hakuna ____________''😀😀😀😀
Hebu Jaza Nasafi Iliyoachwa Wazi

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You can't kill me, I was born dead- Big L "Put It On"

Put It On
Big L

Aiyyo, you betta flee hobbes, or get your head flown three blocks
L keep rapper's hearts pumpin' like Reeboks
And every year I gain clout and my name sprouts
Some brothers'd still be large if the crack never came out
I got the wild style, always been a foul child
My guns go poom-poom, and yo' guns go pow-pow
I'm known to have a hottie open, I keep the shottie smokin'
Front and get half the bones in your body broken
And when it comes to gettin' nookie I'm not a rookie
I got girls that make that chick Toni Braxton look like whoopie
I run with sturdy clicks I'm never hittin' dirty chicks
Got thirty-five bodies, buddy don't make it thirty-six
Step to this you're good as gone, word is bond
I leave mics torn when I put it on

So put it on Big L, put it on
C'mon put it on, and on, and onnn
C'mon put it on Big L, put it on
C'mon put it on represent put it on, c'mon!

Nobody can take nuttin' from Big L but a loss chief
The last punk who fronted got a mouth full of false teeth
I'm known to gas a hottie and blast the shottie
Got more cash than Gotti (you don't know? ) you betta ask somebody
Big L is a crazy brother, and I'm a lady lover
A smooth kid that'll run up in your baby mother
I push a slick Benz, I'm known to hit skinz
And get endz and commit sins with sick friends
'Cause I'm a money getter, also a honey hitter
You think you nice as me? ha ha, youse a funny nigga
I flows, so one of my shoes, wouldn't be clever to miss
I'm leavin' competitors pissed
To tell you the truth, it gets no better than this
I'm catchin' wreck to the break of dawn
And it's on, yo it's a must that I put it on
Yeah, so put it on Big L, put it on

C'mon put it on, big fella put it on and on
Put it on Big L, put it on represent
Put it on, c'mon put it on..

Some boys see me gun nozzle and take a we fi joke
Boy you gwan dead before you see me gun smoke
See me gun nozzle and take me fi joke
You gwan dead, from army you provoked

I drink moet not beck's beer, I stay dressed in slick gear
Peace to my homies in the gangsta lean, I see you when I get there
And it's a fact I keep a gat in my arm reach
I charm freaks and bomb geeks from here to palm beach
I'm puttin' rappers in the wheelchair, Big L is the villain
You still fear, cause I be hangin' it hard and my shit is for real here
If you battle l you picked the wrong head
I smash mics like cornbread, you can't kill me I was born dead
And I'm known to pull steel trigs and kill pigs
I run with I'll kids and real nigs who peel wigs
My rap's steady slammin', I keep a heavy cannon
It's a new sheriff in town, and it ain't Reggie Hammond
Peace to my peoples, the children of the corn
Cause we put it on, adios, ghost I'm gone

So put it on Big L, put it on
C'mon put it on, big fella put it on and on
Big L, you gotta put it on and on
Put it on Big L, put it on and on
Word up, knahmsayin?
My man Big L, runnin things for the nine-four
And nine-oh-s, you know what I mean?
It's the Kid Capri, in full flair
And we gon' put it on a little somethin' like this
Big L, c'mon
Lord Finesse he be puttin' it on
My man buckwild he be puttin' it on and on
My man Fat Joe he be puttin' it on
Showbiz and A.G. yeah they be puttin' it on and on
I can't forget diamond he be puttin' it on
The whole d.i.t.c.yeah they be puttin' it on and on
And of course Kid Capri yeah I be puttin' it on
The whole N.Y.C.yeah we be puttin' it on and on
And I'm out
Songwriters: Anthony Best / Lamont Coleman
Put It On lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group

Kiranga · Oct 19, 2018

Zurri said:
Mimi na wewe kuhusu hili tulishamalizana kitambo sana. .... Hapo huna hoja bro.

Hatujamalizana.

Umekimbia kujibu.

Huwezi kusema tulishamalizana wewe mwenyewe tu kama hatujakubaliana kwamba tulishamalizana, unalazimisha.

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