Stephen Hawking's Final Book Says There's 'No Possibility' of God in Our Universe

[Kiranga]

1. 'Evil ni mabaya. Yapo mengi". Je, ni theory gani ya sayansi inayosema kuna evil?
2. 'Hata maafa ya asili kama volcano, earthquake na tsunami yanaua na kufanya uharibifu mkubwa, haya ni mabaya." Ndivyo sayansi inavyosema kwamba volcano, earthquake na tsunami..." ni mabaya? Una scientific evidence kwa vile ndiyo na wewe huwa unataka uonyeshwe?

Kwa hiyo hakuna evil? Mungu wenu mnaposema atawahukumu watu motoni, atawahukumu kwa sababu wamefanya mazuri?

 

[Magobe T]

Kwa hiyo hakuna evil? Mungu wenu mnaposema atawahukumu watu motoni, atawahukumu kwa sababu wamefanya mazuri?

Una scientific evidence of the existence of evil?

 

[Kiranga]

Una scientific evidence of the existence of evil?

The second law of thermodynamics is evil personified.

 

[Magobe T]

The second law of thermodynamics is evil personified.

"The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease over time. The total entropy can remain constant in ideal cases where the system is in a steady state (equilibrium), or is undergoing a reversible process. In all spontaneous processes, the total entropy increases and the process is irreversible. The increase in entropy accounts for the irreversibility of natural processes, and the asymmetry between future and past. Historically, the second law was an empirical finding that was accepted as an axiom of thermodynamic theory. Statistical mechanics, classical or quantum, explains the microscopic origin of the law." Second law of thermodynamics - Wikipedia
There is nowhere I see evil explained.

 

[Kiranga]

"The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease over time. The total entropy can remain constant in ideal cases where the system is in a steady state (equilibrium), or is undergoing a reversible process. In all spontaneous processes, the total entropy increases and the process is irreversible. The increase in entropy accounts for the irreversibility of natural processes, and the asymmetry between future and past. Historically, the second law was an empirical finding that was accepted as an axiom of thermodynamic theory. Statistical mechanics, classical or quantum, explains the microscopic origin of the law." Second law of thermodynamics - Wikipedia
There is nowhere I see evil explained.

Huna macho ya kuona.

The second law of thermodynamics is responsible for hunger, old age, disease, any irreversibility.

It is corrosive and degenerative, it increases disorder, it tends to chaos, it will cause your death one way or another.

If you cannot see evil in that, it is only because you are blind.

Can you prove God exists?

 

[Magobe T]

Huna macho ya kuona.

The second law of thermodynamics is responsible for hunger, old age, disease, any irreversibility.

It is corrosive and degenerative, it increases disorder, it tends to chaos, it will cause your death one way or another.

If you cannot see evil in that, it is only because you are blind.

Can you prove God exists?

Yes, I'm blind and that is why I want you to show me by evidence how it is responsible for evil (which even you haven't defined what it is except you have said evil is mabaya ya aina mbalimbali).

 

[Magobe T]

Huna macho ya kuona.

The second law of thermodynamics is responsible for hunger, old age, disease, any irreversibility.

It is corrosive and degenerative, it increases disorder, it tends to chaos, it will cause your death one way or another.

If you cannot see evil in that, it is only because you are blind.

Can you prove God exists?

Another question is why is there evil?

 

[Kiranga]

Yes, I'm blind and that is why I want you to show me by evidence how it is responsible for evil (which even you haven't defined what it is except you have said evil is mabaya ya aina mbalimbali).

Unataka nikuambie vipi? Umeuliza evil ni nini nimekwambia evil ni mabaya, kwa mifano.

Unataka nikuambieje?

Umeniomba ushahidi wa evil kisayansi nimekupa the corrosive nature of nature in the second law of thermodynamics.

Ambacho hujaelewa ni nini?

Kama hujui kusoma napo utataka nikufundishe kusoma?

Itabidi unilipe mshahara wa ualimu sasa.

 

[Kiranga]

Another question is why is there evil?

Because the world is probabilistic in a non personal way, and there is no God to ward off evil.

If there was an all knowing, all capable and all loving God, he would prevent evil from being.

The very possibility of evil to exists, shows there is no such God, the world is probabilistic, not made by a God.

 

[Magobe T]

Huna macho ya kuona.

The second law of thermodynamics is responsible for hunger, old age, disease, any irreversibility.

It is corrosive and degenerative, it increases disorder, it tends to chaos, it will cause your death one way or another.

If you cannot see evil in that, it is only because you are blind.

Can you prove God exists?

I cannot prove the existence of God using science. I can, however, do it using theology, but I understand that you don't accept theology. So, there is no need for the proof of God's existence unless you have changed your mind to accept theology. For my part, I embrace science and theology.

 

[Kiranga]

I cannot prove the existence of God using science. I can, however, do it using theology, but I understand that you don't accept theology. So, there is no need for the proof of God's existence unless you have changed your mind to accept theology. For my part, I embrace science and theology.

How do you prove the existence of God using theology?

What is theology?

How can you ensure that what you are giving as proof of the existence of God, is actual proof, and not some mumbo jumbo?

 

[Magobe T]

Unataka nikuambie vipi? Umeuliza evil ni nini nimekwambia evil ni mabaya, kwa mifano.

Unataka nikuambieje?

Umeniomba ushahidi wa evil kisayansi nimekupa the corrosive nature of nature in the second law of thermodynamics.

Ambacho hujaelewa ni nini?

Kama hujui kusoma napo utataka nikufundishe kusoma?

Itabidi unilipe mshahara wa ualimu sasa.

Ninataka 'working definition' ili kuepuka kukimbia huku na kule. Kusema tu evil ni mabaya ya aina mbalimbali kwangu siyo definition. Mfano, kwa mifano uliyotaja mwanzo ulisema volcanic eruption, earthquake, tsunami ni evil wakati mimi sioni kama ni evil na wala definition ya volcanic eruption, earthquake au tsunami haina kitu kinachoitwa evil. Sasa ili kuondoa utata kama huu working definition inatakiwa.

 

[Magobe T]

Because the world is probabilistic in a non personal way, and there is no God to ward off evil.

If there was an all knowing, all capable and all loving God, he would prevent evil from being.

The very possibility of evil to exists, shows there is no such God, the world is probabilistic, not made by a God.

Mhu! Bila kujua hiyo evil ni nini na kuonyesha jinsi inavyopingana na uwepo wa Mungu tutakuwa tunapigana chenga tu hapa naona.

 

[Magobe T]

How do you prove the existence of God using theology?

What is theology?

How can you ensure that what you are giving as proof of the existence of God, is actual proof, and not some mumbo jumbo?

I have said, I can't prove it using science because science deals with the physical world, while God is not. So, it's useless to prove his existence using a scientific method. But I can prove his existence using other disciplines, which you don't believe and here is where the problem lies.

 

[Kiranga]

I have said, I can't prove it using science because science deals with the physical world, while God is not. So, it's useless to prove his existence using a scientific method. But I can prove his existence using other disciplines, which you don't believe and here is where the problem lies.

Science deals with the physical world?

Do you even know what science is?

 

[Magobe T]

Science deals with the physical world?

Do you even know what science is?

"Science is a systematic enterprise that builds and organises knowledge in form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe (all of space and time and their contents, including planets, stars, galaxies, and all other forms of matter and energy. While the spatial size of the entire universe is still unknown, it is possible to measure the observable universe). Modern science is typically divided into three major branches that consist of the natural sciences (biology, chemistry, and physics), which study nature in the broadest sense; the social sciences (economics, psychology, and sociology), which study individuals and societies and the formal sciences (logic, mathematics, and theoretical computer science), which study abstract concepts. There is disagreement, however, on whether the formal sciences actually constitute a science as they do not rely on empirical evidence (the information received by means of the senses, particularly by observation and documentation of patterns and behavior through experimentation. The term comes from the Greek word for experience)." Science - Wikipedia

 

[Kiranga]

"Science is a systematic enterprise that builds and organises knowledge in form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe (all of space and time and their contents, including planets, stars, galaxies, and all other forms of matter and energy. While the spatial size of the entire universe is still unknown, it is possible to measure the observable universe). Modern science is typically divided into three major branches that consist of the natural sciences (biology, chemistry, and physics), which study nature in the broadest sense; the social sciences (economics, psychology, and sociology), which study individuals and societies and the formal sciences (logic, mathematics, and theoretical computer science), which study abstract concepts. There is disagreement, however, on whether the formal sciences actually constitute a science as they do not rely on empirical evidence (the information received by means of the senses, particularly by observation and documentation of patterns and behavior through experimentation. The term comes from the Greek word for experience)." Science - Wikipedia

Wapi wamesema science deals with the physical world hapo?

 

[Magobe T]

Wapi wamesema science deals with the physical world hapo?

According to Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary of Current English: Oxford University Press, p. 869, "Physical adj. 2. of or concerning things that can be experienced through the five senses, eg touch, or sight, rather than perceived through the mind or spirit: the physical world/universe."

Hapo juu, concern yangu ilikuwa kuonyesha kuwa science is limited to the observable universe and relies on empirical evidence - that's 'information received by means of the senses, particularly by observation and documentation of patterns and behaviour through experimentation'. According to the he online Dictionary.com, 'physical' (adjective):
2. of or relating to that which is material: the physical universe, the physical sciences.
3. noting or pertaining to the properties of matter and energy other than those peculiar to living matter.
Hivyo basi, science is limited to the physical world/the material/what can be observed or experimented as opposed to the spiritual/immaterial.

Kusema 'science deals with the physical world' ningeweza kusema pia kwamba science is limited to the physical/material world - what can be observed and experimented as opposed to the spiritual/immaterial world. Lakini discussion iliyoanza siyo hii ni wewe 1) ku'define' evil 2) kuonyesha how volcanic eruption, earthquake, tsunami is evil 3) how evil is incompatible with God's existence. Bado hujaonyesha kitu hapa.

 

[MakinikiA]

USICHEZE NA MUNGU NDIO MAANA KAPIGWA GONJWA LA AJABU HUYU JAMA UKIMUANGALIA SANA ALIKUWA ANAONEKANA KAMA MAITI

 

[schlumberger]

Mungu wenu hana upendo wote, ndiyo maana mnalipua watu kwa terrorism.

Huyo si Mungu, ni ajenda ya kisiasa kutawala dunia, na imewashinda kuitimiza.

Mungu wetu ana upendo lakini uko limited. Fikiria mtu kama Stephen Hawking ambaye mpaka umauti unamfika hajatubia.

Hivyo jeuri yako hiyo nikuwa anakusubirisha! Anakupa nafasi ya kurejea.

Hiyo agenda ya terrorism ya kisiasa unaijua wewe. haina uhusiano na dini. Kama una dalili kwenye maandiko yalete.

Uislam unajivunia kuwa ndiyo "The fastest growing religion so far" And soon will overcome Christianity! Ukitaka data zipo za kutosha.