Tanzania aggressively seeks Ugandan traders

[Geza Ulole]

Tafadhali alieelewa hii paragraph anielekeze.,. Maana kama sielewi hivi. Hapa TZ tutafaidika na nini? Yaani faida ni ipi kwa hili ongezeko la biashara kama watasafirishiwa mizigo bure?

Au kama nimeelewa vibaya nielekezwe.

Ina maana Bandari imeweka utaratibu wa kupeleka mizigo ICD ili kupunguzwa hussle ya waingizaji bidhaa bandarini. Fedha za kuleta mizigo bandarini ndo hizo hizo zita-cover gharama ya kutolewa Bandari ni na kupelekwa ICD. Kama Kenya wana-charge waandike maumivu...[emoji23] [emoji115]

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[Synod]

Yani the only choice left for you guys to compete with Kenya head to head is to give services for free!!! Alafu hio ndo mnaita aggressive????? Ai no! Acha ikae!!!

what abt you giving your sgr to the Chinese?[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]

Na wachina walivyo na kiburi wamekataa kuwalipa kaka na dada zenu mishahara wanalia ovyo! SGR workers in protest over delayed salaries


Bado kidogo wachina wafukuze hao wakenya ili waajiri ndugu zao wachina maana naona tayari wameanza kuajiri wafagiaji wa kichina

 

[ntita]

Ina maana Bandari imeweka utaratibu wa kupeleka mizigo ICD ili kupunguzwa huddle ya waingizaji bidhaa bandarini. Fedha za kuleta mizigo bandarini ndo hizo hizo zita-cover gharama ya kutolewa Bandari ni na kupelekwa ICD. Kama Kenya wana-charge waandike maumivu...[emoji23] [emoji115]

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Na hiyo ICD kwa ajili ya mizigo ya waganda iko umbali gan kutoka dar? Is t economical? Au ndo imefika wakati tuaminiane tu.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Na hiyo ICD kwa ajili ya mizigo ya waganda iko umbali gan kutoka dar? Is t economical? Au ndo imefika wakati tuaminiane tu.

Ipo Ruvu

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[Kafrican]

Our focus is on future. We want a 50+% Uganda CARGO share and great lakes.

Kumbuka at first mlikua na 30% share ya Uganda, iliendelea ikipunguka hadi sasa iko 3%, hio 97% yote ni Kenya ndo ulichukua, je uliskia Kenya ikifanya service za bure hata siku moja? Rwanda ambayo hata hatupakani nayo pia tunakula Sahabi moja ... Ushawai skis vya bure???"

 

[ntita]

Ipo Ruvu

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OK... Kwa hiyo gharama tutakayoingia ni kuzitoa dar mpaka Ruvu? Kama ni hivyo sio mbaya.

Nilidhani ICD iko Bukoba uko.

 

[Kafrican]

what abt you giving your sgr to the Chinese?[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]

Na wachina walivyo na kiburi wamekataa kuwalipa kaka na dada zenu mishahara wanalia ovyo! SGR workers in protest over delayed salaries


Bado kidogo wachina wafukuze hao wakenya ili waajiri ndugu zao wachina maana naona tayari wameanza kuajiri wafagiaji wa kichina
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The chinies company bado hata hawajafika, for now its bieng run by Kenya railways ndo maana unaona haijaaza kufanya kazi 100%, officially commercial operations zinaanza Dec 2017, hapo ndo KR ita sign commercial operation...

Hapo hakuna kitu tumewaachia bure, hesabu za kibiashara tumeshazipiga na Wao, naeza kukueleza kwanini imefanywa hivyo lakini sijui kama unataka kuskia ama ni kukurupukwa ndo una puruka

 

[pingli-nywee]

Kumbuka at first mlikua na 30% share ya Uganda, iliendelea ikipunguka hadi sasa iko 3%, hio 97% yote ni Kenya ndo ulichukua, je uliskia Kenya ikifanya service za bure hata siku moja? Rwanda ambayo hata hatupakani nayo pia tunakula Sahabi moja ... Ushawai skis vya bure???"

Hawajui biashara hawa, yaani Uganda ni kama kamrembo flani hivi, ninunilie hiki,na kile. Tz wanakubali tu. Hongera Ug. mmepata pa kushibia. Sijui hata sisi Kenya pia tupitishe bomba tz ili tuweze kuwanyoosha kabisa?

 

[Synod]

The chinies company bado hata hawajafika, for now its bieng run by Kenya railways ndo maana unaona haijaaza kufanya kazi 100%, officially commercial operations zinaanza Dec 2017, hapo ndo KR ita sign commercial operation...

Hapo hakuna kitu tumewaachia bure, hesabu za kibiashara tumeshazipiga na Wao, naeza kukueleza kwanini imefanywa hivyo lakini sijui kama unataka kuskia ama ni kukurupukwa ndo una puruka

Huwa sikirupuki I know the facts! Na kama unajua kuwa kuna hesabu zinafanyika basi ujue na sisi tuna hesabu zetu with the Ethiopians!

Tz haifanyi sana biashara na Ethiopia, so ili kuwavutia sio mbaya kuwapa motivation kwa kuzingatia kuwa sababu za kijiografia hazitupendelei sana!

Just like what we did with the oil pipeline.

 

[Synod]

Kumbuka at first mlikua na 30% share ya Uganda, iliendelea ikipunguka hadi sasa iko 3%, hio 97% yote ni Kenya ndo ulichukua, je uliskia Kenya ikifanya service za bure hata siku moja? Rwanda ambayo hata hatupakani nayo pia tunakula Sahabi moja ... Ushawai skis vya bure???"

Hapo kuna sababu za kijiografia ambazo huwezi kuziepuka kirahisi!

Lakini kama unakumbuka hizo cargo zilishuka zaidi kutokana kodi iliyowekwa 2015 lakini hiyo kodi imeondolewa tena! Share itaongezeka nina uhakika! Kikao cha wafanyabiashara wa uganda walivyokuja dar wakakaa na TPA, na kile cha mawaziri wa tz na ug walichokaa kagera kitakuwa na positive impact!

Kama mlifikiri hatujui biashara basi kaeni msome mchezo!

 

[Kafrican]

uache upumbavu na wivu kwa kila barrel of oil Tanzania is to get 12€ plus a chance to be partly owner of that pipeline. Jaribu kujua if there will be 216000 barrels transported every day then unawashwa na nn? Hebu peleke ujinga huko kwenu..may be u should tell us how much will SGR bring per day with a loan of over $7 bln taken by GoK from China? And try to mention one business in Kenya that has daily earnings of over $11 mln!

Hamna kitu, making stuff up, anyway, hizo ni pesa za transit ambazo sits pigwa hesabu kulingana na international standards....

Shida ni mliwspatia kila kith bure,
How many families will have to abandon their homes where they buried their grandparents' parents?, how many trees will have to be cut down to give way to the pipeline? And who would finance the planting of new trees somewhere else to balance out the ones that were cut down? What would be the financial cost in terms of interfering with wildlife- remember the pipeline will be heated, its very long and wide, that heat will probably be significant enough to be felt in the nearby surroundings, ..... Someone has to account and calculate all of that abd put a figure on it $$$$$ , And since the Oil is Uganda's, pipeline Totals , but the land is yours, clean terrains, safe lands --- obviously they should pay you a big compensation for all that, then after the construction is done you then start talking about transtit fees

 

[Kafrican]

Hapo kuna sababu za kijiografia ambazo huwezi kuziepuka kirahisi!

Lakini kama unakumbuka hizo cargo zilishuka zaidi kutokana kodi iliyowekwa 2015 lakini hiyo kodi imeondolewa tena! Share itaongezeka nina uhakika! Kikao cha wafanyabiashara wa uganda walivyokuja dar wakakaa na TPA, na kile cha mawaziri wa tz na ug walichokaa kagera kitakuwa na positive impact!

Kama mlifikiri hatujui biashara basi kaeni msome mchezo!

Kutoa huduma za bure mnaita 'Agressive marketing'
Mkifanya mikutano alafu baadaye mnaamua kupeana bure ndo wateja waje alafu baadae unaita 'poaitive impact!'

 

[Geza Ulole]

Hamna kitu, making stuff up, anyway, hizo ni pesa za transit ambazo sits pigwa hesabu kulingana na international standards....

Shida ni mliwspatia kila kith bure,
How many families will have to abandon their homes where they buried their grandparents' parents?, how many trees will have to be cut down to give way to the pipeline? And who would finance the planting of new trees somewhere else to balance out the ones that were cut down? What would be the financial cost in terms of interfering with wildlife- remember the pipeline will be heated, its very long and wide, that heat will probably be significant enough to be felt in the nearby surroundings, ..... Someone has to account and calculate all of that abd put a figure on it $$$$$ , And since the Oil is Uganda's, pipeline Totals , but the land is yours, clean terrains, safe lands --- obviously they should pay you a big compensation for all that, then after the construction is done you then start talking about transtit fees

You wanted $14 per barrel for Hoima-Lamu where no port exists n u lost! Compensation has been given out n Museveni himself asked for our gas n Tanzania to be a partly owner. Tanzania has taken her stake in the refinery built in Uganda Hoima. And lastly, Uganda has asked Kenya to join the pipeline i.e. build a pipeline from Lokichar to Hoima.

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[Kafrican]

You wanted $14 per barrel for Hoima-Lamu where no port exists n u lost! Compensation has been given out n Museveni himself asked for our gas n Tanzania to be a partly owner.

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And even when we lost the deal, and we went up and down trying everything to win back the deal, at no point did we offers them anything for free!!!! As a last option we told them we were willing to change the route to Mombasa port which already exists and that would lower the initial capital required to construct the pipeline, but we never offered free things on a billions dollar project of such magnitude,

 

[ntita]

And even when we lost the deal, and we went up and down trying everything to win back the deal, at no point did we offers them anything for free!!!! As a last option we told them we were willing to change the route to Mombasa port which already exists and that would lower the initial capital required to construct the pipeline, but we never offered free things on a billions dollar project of such magnitude,

Kwa kweli hata Mimi kutoatoa free siungi sana mkono... Ila kama hesabu zilipigwa vizuri ikaonekana tunafaidika... Sio mbaya! Ila Kwenye biashara hutakiwi kabisa kua cheap. Ikiwa cheap watu wanakuchukulia poa.

 

[Synod]

Kutoa huduma za bure mnaita 'Agressive marketing'
Mkifanya mikutano alafu baadaye mnaamua kupeana bure ndo wateja waje alafu baadae unaita 'poaitive impact!'

Hakuna cha bure hapa buda! Hii naona imewaingia kweli kweli!

Naona speed ya LDC inawanyima usingizi kabisa sa hz! Ujue hakuna kitu kinakuja out of the blue! Lazima kianze na initiative! Na hatujakuambia kiwa kikao ni positive impact, ila nimesema vitaleta positive impact!

Na kwa taarifa kama hujui, soko la uganda hatulitegemei sana kwenye plan yetu! Ndo maana hata ukiona taarifa za TPA zinasema tunataka kuongeza share ua UG ifike 10% basi!

 

[Geza Ulole]

And even when we lost the deal, and we went up and down trying everything to win back the deal, at no point did we offers them anything for free!!!! As a last option we told them we were willing to change the route to Mombasa port which already exists and that would lower the initial capital required to construct the pipeline, but we never offered free things on a billions dollar project of such magnitude,

Wacha wivu wa kike if 12€ per barrel is free how about 14€ per barrel? The cost of construction r lower in Tanzania a reason Uganda choose a longer route to Tanga. I repeat a gas pipeline from Mtwara is to be extended to Kampala from Dar n same concessions r to be rewarded to TPDC. Whether u went back to renegotiate or no, the bottom line is Hoima-Tanga pipeline is to stay n a matter of fact U/C while urs is still on media.

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[Geza Ulole]

Hakuna cha bure hapa buda! Hii naona imewaingia kweli kweli!

Naona speed ya LDC inawanyima usingizi kabisa sa hz! Ujue hakuna kitu kinakuja out of the blue! Lazima kianze na initiative! Na hatujakuambia kiwa kikao ni positive impact, ila nimesema vitaleta positive impact!

Na kwa taarifa kama hujui, soko la uganda hatulitegemei sana kwenye plan yetu! Ndo maana hata ukiona taarifa za TPA zinasema tunataka kuongeza share ua UG ifike 10% basi!

Itagonga 50% ile port Uganda wanajenga na juhudi hizi za SGR

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[Synod]

Itagonga 50% ile port Uganda wanajenga na juhudi hizi za SGR

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Yeah nimefuatilia ni kweli, ile report nimeona ilikuwa kabla ya dar port expansion project

 

[Synod]

The chinies company bado hata hawajafika, for now its bieng run by Kenya railways ndo maana unaona haijaaza kufanya kazi 100%,

Are u sure hawajafika? How would you say abt this statement?