The rise and fall of Colonel Muamar Gadaffi
The rise and fall of Colonel Muamar Gadaffi
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Saif al Islam sasa anafuga mandevu!
USA looks upon Libya as fast food expecting a fast war and a quick victory, Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, the son of the Libyan leader wanted by the ICC, told RT. But the West will never get what they want, he added.
Many countries, Iran and North Korea are among them, told us it was our mistake to give up, to have stopped developing long-range missiles and to become friendly with the West. Our example means one should never trust the West and should always be on alert for them it is fine to change their mind overnight and start bombing Libya, said Saif al-Islam Gaddafi
One of our biggest mistakes was that we delayed buying new weapons, especially from Russia, and delayed building a strong army. We thought Europeans were our friends; our mistake was to be tolerant with our enemies.
Gaddafis son was charged by the International Criminal Court on June 27 for a state policy aimed at deterring by any means, including lethal force, the demonstrations of civilians against the Gaddafi regime alongside his father Muammar Gaddafi and his military intelligence chief General Abdullah al-Sanoussi. However the Libyan leaders son sees the charge differently.
They do not accuse me of policy, they accuse me of killing people, and everybody knows it. For me to be responsible for killing people was a joke. This would have happened anywhere in the world if people in the street moved towards a military site trying to steal ammunition or arms. Of course the military would prevent them! stated Saif al-Islam Gaddafi.
The son of the Libyan leader denied either he or his father had ordered the killing of protesters.
No, nobody ordered to kill them, the guards just fired, thats it. And they do not need permission to do that.
Its a fake court. Under the table they are trying to negotiate with us a deal. They say if you accept this deal, we will take care of the court. What does that mean? It means this court is controlled by those countries which are attacking us every day! It is just to put psychological and political pressure on us. Thats it. Of course, it wont work. The court is a joke here in Libya, concluded the son of the Libyan leader.
Saif al-Islam Gaddafi said the West has only one target Libya. The country is a like a piece of cake for them it is rich, it has gas, oil and money, so they must kill my father to get the cake. What they dont understand is that the fighting will not stop if my father goes. Libyans will continue fighting until one day the country will be back to the Libyans,concluded Saif al-Islam Gaddafi.
We told them You want elections? OK lets do elections. We will bring observers from Russia, from America, from the African Union, from the European Union, from the United Nations to supervise the elections. And if we win you should accept the results, if we lose congratulations. They answered no.," Saif al-Islam Gaddafi went on. "Our goal is to march to Tripoli. We have to march to Tripoli and occupy Tripoli. By force. So, you want to fight? OK, we will fight. And you will lose. And soon, because you have no chance. You have 40 ships in front of our coast, you have hundreds of airplanes, you have 17 satellites from America and France, you have everything, but you are losing every day. Why? Because the people are not with you."
The Libyans are united not just around my father as a leader but they are united around other moral values. They are fighting for their country, for their people. They know that NATO is here and is bombing not because they want to help us, or because it is so nice to us or because it is so generous towards the Libyan people, but because they have their own interest. And the rebels are with NATO not because they are pro-democracy or fighting for freedom. It has nothing to do with this. They have their own interests. They want to share the cake they want to share this country, said Saif al-Islam Gaddafi.
The son of the Libyan leader acknowledged that the West won the media war at the outset because it planned to say Gaddafi was in Venezuela, the rebels were occupying Tripoli and the regime was gone.
They seeded big chaos in the whole country. We are still now suffering from that chaos. But now the Libyans are winning. The Security Council issued its resolution against Libya because of fake media reports saying that the Libyan air force is bombing civilian districts in Tripoli and killing but go there and show me any evidence of such killings. We told everyone please, send a fact-finding mission to Libya to find out whats happened. They said no. We are going to bomb you."
Nobody will give up and raise a white flag. And the Libyans will not allow them to do that. And the fight will continue, added Saif al-Islam Gaddafi.
At the end of the interview, Saif al-Islam Gaddafi said it was time for Russia to step in to play a positive role in the escalating conflict and show that it is a superpower.
Libya is a great opportunity for Russia to become a superpower. Its similar to what happened in Egypt when the Soviet Union managed to stop the French and the British. Its exactly what is happening now in Libya. And from then on the Soviet Union became a super power, because at that time it said: you stop aggression against Egypt, or we are going to bomb London and Paris. Its the same again.
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USA looks upon Libya as fast food expecting a fast war and a quick victory, Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, the son of the Libyan leader wanted by the ICC, told RT. But the West will never get what they want, he added.
Many countries, Iran and North Korea are among them, told us it was our mistake to give up, to have stopped developing long-range missiles and to become friendly with the West. Our example means one should never trust the West and should always be on alert for them it is fine to change their mind overnight and start bombing Libya, said Saif al-Islam Gaddafi
One of our biggest mistakes was that we delayed buying new weapons, especially from Russia, and delayed building a strong army. We thought Europeans were our friends; our mistake was to be tolerant with our enemies.
Gaddafis son was charged by the International Criminal Court on June 27 for a state policy aimed at deterring by any means, including lethal force, the demonstrations of civilians against the Gaddafi regime alongside his father Muammar Gaddafi and his military intelligence chief General Abdullah al-Sanoussi. However the Libyan leaders son sees the charge differently.
They do not accuse me of policy, they accuse me of killing people, and everybody knows it. For me to be responsible for killing people was a joke. This would have happened anywhere in the world if people in the street moved towards a military site trying to steal ammunition or arms. Of course the military would prevent them! stated Saif al-Islam Gaddafi.
The son of the Libyan leader denied either he or his father had ordered the killing of protesters.
No, nobody ordered to kill them, the guards just fired, thats it. And they do not need permission to do that.
Its a fake court. Under the table they are trying to negotiate with us a deal. They say if you accept this deal, we will take care of the court. What does that mean? It means this court is controlled by those countries which are attacking us every day! It is just to put psychological and political pressure on us. Thats it. Of course, it wont work. The court is a joke here in Libya, concluded the son of the Libyan leader.
Saif al-Islam Gaddafi said the West has only one target Libya. The country is a like a piece of cake for them it is rich, it has gas, oil and money, so they must kill my father to get the cake. What they dont understand is that the fighting will not stop if my father goes. Libyans will continue fighting until one day the country will be back to the Libyans,concluded Saif al-Islam Gaddafi.
We told them You want elections? OK lets do elections. We will bring observers from Russia, from America, from the African Union, from the European Union, from the United Nations to supervise the elections. And if we win you should accept the results, if we lose congratulations. They answered no.," Saif al-Islam Gaddafi went on. "Our goal is to march to Tripoli. We have to march to Tripoli and occupy Tripoli. By force. So, you want to fight? OK, we will fight. And you will lose. And soon, because you have no chance. You have 40 ships in front of our coast, you have hundreds of airplanes, you have 17 satellites from America and France, you have everything, but you are losing every day. Why? Because the people are not with you."
The Libyans are united not just around my father as a leader but they are united around other moral values. They are fighting for their country, for their people. They know that NATO is here and is bombing not because they want to help us, or because it is so nice to us or because it is so generous towards the Libyan people, but because they have their own interest. And the rebels are with NATO not because they are pro-democracy or fighting for freedom. It has nothing to do with this. They have their own interests. They want to share the cake they want to share this country, said Saif al-Islam Gaddafi.
The son of the Libyan leader acknowledged that the West won the media war at the outset because it planned to say Gaddafi was in Venezuela, the rebels were occupying Tripoli and the regime was gone.
They seeded big chaos in the whole country. We are still now suffering from that chaos. But now the Libyans are winning. The Security Council issued its resolution against Libya because of fake media reports saying that the Libyan air force is bombing civilian districts in Tripoli and killing but go there and show me any evidence of such killings. We told everyone please, send a fact-finding mission to Libya to find out whats happened. They said no. We are going to bomb you."
Nobody will give up and raise a white flag. And the Libyans will not allow them to do that. And the fight will continue, added Saif al-Islam Gaddafi.
At the end of the interview, Saif al-Islam Gaddafi said it was time for Russia to step in to play a positive role in the escalating conflict and show that it is a superpower.
Libya is a great opportunity for Russia to become a superpower. Its similar to what happened in Egypt when the Soviet Union managed to stop the French and the British. Its exactly what is happening now in Libya. And from then on the Soviet Union became a super power, because at that time it said: you stop aggression against Egypt, or we are going to bomb London and Paris. Its the same again.
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According to a source close to the enquiry, he had wanted to challenge the president on France's intervention in Libya
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Huge Rally In Tripoli As Gaddafi Warns Europe
Libya, Video: Gaddafi Warns Forces Could Strike In Europe As Huge Crowds Gather In Tripoli | World News | Sky News
Libya, Video: Gaddafi Warns Forces Could Strike In Europe As Huge Crowds Gather In Tripoli | World News | Sky News
Wapinzani wa Serikali ya Kanal Gadaffi wamekiri kuwa wako katika mazungumzo na serikali ya Ufaransa ili kupewa silaha zaidi kuweza kumuondoa Gadaffi Madarakani.
Pamoja na kwamba Serikali ya Ufaransa haijakiri kuwepo kwa mazungumzo hayo, ila imekiri kuwadondoshea silaha wapizania hao silaha kwa parachuti mwanzoni mwa wiki. ambayo imezua msuguano kiasi kwani Waziri wa mambo ya nje wa Urusi Sergei ameomba maelezo zaidi toka Serikali ya Ufaransa kwa kitendo hicho habari zaidi soma hapo chini
Libyan rebel fighters flash the victory sign as they drive on June 11, 2011 in Ajdabiya, south west of Benghazi.
Misrata, Libya (CNN) -- The French government is in talks with Libyan rebels about supplying them with weapons and ammunition, a Libyan opposition military spokesman in Misrata said late Thursday.
The French government has not confirmed the claim, which follows an acknowledgement earlier this week that its military has previously dropped light weaponry to rebels elsewhere.
Ibrahim Baitalmal, the spokesman for Misrata's Military Council, said that if the French agreed to help in Misrata, anti-Gadhafi forces there would receive much needed supplies to fight against Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's forces.
Misrata is surrounded on three sides by Gadhafi's forces, which are much better armed. The city's only outlet is by sea.
Gadhafi has been under enormous international pressure to step down following a months-long uprising by rebels, emboldened by popular movements across the Middle East, trying to bring an end to his 42-year rule.
The U.N. Security Council approved a resolution in March authorizing force by whatever means necessary, with the exception of a ground invasion, to protect civilians. NATO began bombing military targets a short time later.
Libyan state TV reported Friday that NATO had attacked targets in the city of Gharyan, south of the capital, Tripoli.
It also reported that pro-Gadhafi forces had bombed an opposition building in Tobruk, in the far east of the country.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov demanded an explanation from Paris Thursday over its parachuting-in of arms to Libyan rebels -- which was first revealed in a French media report Wednesday -- Russian news agency Itar-Tass reported.
Lavrov said that if confirmed, France's action was in violation of the U.N.resolution.
But speaking in Moscow Friday, French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe said his country's NATO partners and the U.N. Security Council had been told about France's decision to drop weapons for the Libyan opposition.
"We are exactly within the framework of resolutions 1970 and 1973... all means can be used to help civilian populations to protect themselves," he said.
"It's within that framework that we reacted. We informed our NATO partners and the Security Council."
French Ministry of Defense spokesman Colonel Thierry Burkhard confirmed Wednesday that its military had dropped food, medical products and light weaponry by parachute to Libyans in Djebel Nefoussa.
"It became clear that people there were defenseless and very much threatened by Gadhafi's forces," he said. "The weapons were given for self defense because of the security situation."
Speaking at a news conference Thursday, Libyan Prime Minister Baghdadi al-Mahmoudi said rebel forces were receiving arms from France but were not trained in their use.
He said it was reckless of France to take such action, saying it went "against all of the proclaimed aims of NATO's intervention in Libya."
CNN's Ben Wedeman contributed to this report.
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Source: Libya rebels claim talks with France over weapons supply - CNN.com
Pamoja na kwamba Serikali ya Ufaransa haijakiri kuwepo kwa mazungumzo hayo, ila imekiri kuwadondoshea silaha wapizania hao silaha kwa parachuti mwanzoni mwa wiki. ambayo imezua msuguano kiasi kwani Waziri wa mambo ya nje wa Urusi Sergei ameomba maelezo zaidi toka Serikali ya Ufaransa kwa kitendo hicho habari zaidi soma hapo chini
Libya rebels claim talks with France over weapons supply
Libyan rebel fighters flash the victory sign as they drive on June 11, 2011 in Ajdabiya, south west of Benghazi.
Misrata, Libya (CNN) -- The French government is in talks with Libyan rebels about supplying them with weapons and ammunition, a Libyan opposition military spokesman in Misrata said late Thursday.
The French government has not confirmed the claim, which follows an acknowledgement earlier this week that its military has previously dropped light weaponry to rebels elsewhere.
Ibrahim Baitalmal, the spokesman for Misrata's Military Council, said that if the French agreed to help in Misrata, anti-Gadhafi forces there would receive much needed supplies to fight against Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's forces.
Misrata is surrounded on three sides by Gadhafi's forces, which are much better armed. The city's only outlet is by sea.
Gadhafi has been under enormous international pressure to step down following a months-long uprising by rebels, emboldened by popular movements across the Middle East, trying to bring an end to his 42-year rule.
The U.N. Security Council approved a resolution in March authorizing force by whatever means necessary, with the exception of a ground invasion, to protect civilians. NATO began bombing military targets a short time later.
Libyan state TV reported Friday that NATO had attacked targets in the city of Gharyan, south of the capital, Tripoli.
It also reported that pro-Gadhafi forces had bombed an opposition building in Tobruk, in the far east of the country.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov demanded an explanation from Paris Thursday over its parachuting-in of arms to Libyan rebels -- which was first revealed in a French media report Wednesday -- Russian news agency Itar-Tass reported.
Lavrov said that if confirmed, France's action was in violation of the U.N.resolution.
But speaking in Moscow Friday, French Foreign Minister Alain Juppe said his country's NATO partners and the U.N. Security Council had been told about France's decision to drop weapons for the Libyan opposition.
"We are exactly within the framework of resolutions 1970 and 1973... all means can be used to help civilian populations to protect themselves," he said.
"It's within that framework that we reacted. We informed our NATO partners and the Security Council."
French Ministry of Defense spokesman Colonel Thierry Burkhard confirmed Wednesday that its military had dropped food, medical products and light weaponry by parachute to Libyans in Djebel Nefoussa.
"It became clear that people there were defenseless and very much threatened by Gadhafi's forces," he said. "The weapons were given for self defense because of the security situation."
Speaking at a news conference Thursday, Libyan Prime Minister Baghdadi al-Mahmoudi said rebel forces were receiving arms from France but were not trained in their use.
He said it was reckless of France to take such action, saying it went "against all of the proclaimed aims of NATO's intervention in Libya."
CNN's Ben Wedeman contributed to this report.
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Africa will not execute Gaddafi warrant: Summit
Saturday, July 2, 2011
Malabo, Jul 2: African nations will not execute an International Criminal Council arrest warrant issued for Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, an African Union summit decided. The summit in Equatorial Guinea said the warrant issued last week "seriously complicates" efforts to find a peaceful solution to the conflict between Gaddafi's forces and Libyan rebels.
An assembly of the summit decided that "AU member states shall not cooperate in the execution of the arrest warrant," according to a text of the decisions.
The warrant "seriously complicates the efforts aimed at finding a negotiated political settlement to the crisis in Libya, which will also address, in a mutually reinforcing way, issues related to impunity and reconciliation," it said.
The 53-nation African Union took a similar stance against an ICC warrant for Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir in 2009 on charges of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity in Darfur.
The ICC on June 27 issued warrants for Gaddafi, his son Seif al-Islam, and the head of Libyan intelligence, Abdullah al-Senussi, for atrocities committed in a bloody uprising that began mid-February.
The summit that opened outside the capital Malabo yesterday also agreed on a roadmap out of the Libyan conflict, in which five African leaders are mediating.
AFP
Saturday, July 2, 2011
Malabo, Jul 2: African nations will not execute an International Criminal Council arrest warrant issued for Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, an African Union summit decided. The summit in Equatorial Guinea said the warrant issued last week "seriously complicates" efforts to find a peaceful solution to the conflict between Gaddafi's forces and Libyan rebels.
An assembly of the summit decided that "AU member states shall not cooperate in the execution of the arrest warrant," according to a text of the decisions.
The warrant "seriously complicates the efforts aimed at finding a negotiated political settlement to the crisis in Libya, which will also address, in a mutually reinforcing way, issues related to impunity and reconciliation," it said.
The 53-nation African Union took a similar stance against an ICC warrant for Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir in 2009 on charges of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity in Darfur.
The ICC on June 27 issued warrants for Gaddafi, his son Seif al-Islam, and the head of Libyan intelligence, Abdullah al-Senussi, for atrocities committed in a bloody uprising that began mid-February.
The summit that opened outside the capital Malabo yesterday also agreed on a roadmap out of the Libyan conflict, in which five African leaders are mediating.
AFP
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LIBYA KUANZA KUELEKEZA MASHAMBULIZI ULAYA MAGHARIBI ili kuwafunza ADABU!
02 July,2011,06:52
Muammar Gaddafi has threatened to attack the West in revenge for NATO's bombings. Meanwhile, the African Union has refused to recognize the arrest warrant issued for the Colonel by the International Criminal Court.
The threats were announced on Friday through loudspeakers at one of Tripoli's squares, where supporters of Colonel Gaddafi had gathered. The demonstration was one of the biggest yet in support of Gaddafi.
"If you do not stop your military actions and do not leave the Libyan people in peace, it will be a catastrophe for you,"warned the Libyan leader. "We are able to penetrate into Europe like locusts, like bees to respond the aggressors with their own methods."
"These people [Libyans] will bring the battle into Europe and then your homes, offices and families will become the lawful targets," said Gaddafi in his recorded audio message also broadcasted by state TV.
He also advised his political enemies to "apologize to the Libyan people and leave the country," stating that "NATO air strikes have failed and the game is over."
Only two hours after the demonstration, NATO carried out another air strike, dropping several bombs near Gaddafi's compound.
On March 17, 2011, the United Nations Security Council adopted the Resolution 1973 imposing a no-fly zone over Libya, authorizing all necessary means to protect civilians and civilian-populated areas, except for a "foreign occupation force."
On March 19, 2011, a multi-state coalition started an air campaign on Libya with the US, UK, France, Canada, Italy, Belgium, Denmark, Norway, Qatar and Spain as major participants. The effort was initially largely led by France and the UK, with command shared with the US.
On March 31 NATO took full control over the operation, set to be completed by June 27, but on June 1, NATO extended it for 90 more days – until the end of September.
Also on Friday, the member countries of the African Union decided not to execute the Gaddafi's arrest warrant, as they believe it will "seriously impede" all efforts aimed at a peace settlement to the Libyan conflict. The statement was made at the African Union summit.
"The African Union acknowledges the arrest warrant will seriously hamper the efforts to find a political and diplomatic solution of the Libyan crises and to bring to peace all the sides involved taking into consideration all the mutual interests. The whole world admits ICC [the International Criminal Court] always intervenes at a moment that is not convenient, to put oil on the fire," Russia's RIA Novosti news agency quotes African Union Commission chairman Jean Ping as saying.
Earlier this week, on June 27, the International Criminal Court in The Hague issued an arrest warrant for Muammar Gaddafi, charging the Libyan leader with committing crimes against humanity and using arms against participants of anti-government rallies.
Gaddafi threatens to switch war to NATO
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Muammar Gaddafi, the Libyan leader, has threatened retaliation against Europe - warning of stinging attacks like "locusts and bees".
Gaddafi said that Europe could face a "catastrophe" unless NATO ceases operations in his country.
He also urged supporters to retrieve weapons that France says it has supplied in rebel-held areas.
Al Jazeera's Sue Turton reports from Misurata, where the rebels say they're in desperate need of more foreign military assistance.
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Muammar Gaddafi, the Libyan leader, has threatened retaliation against Europe - warning of stinging attacks like "locusts and bees".
Gaddafi said that Europe could face a "catastrophe" unless NATO ceases operations in his country.
He also urged supporters to retrieve weapons that France says it has supplied in rebel-held areas.
Al Jazeera's Sue Turton reports from Misurata, where the rebels say they're in desperate need of more foreign military assistance.
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Libyan opposition welcome AU plan
Sat Jul 2, 2011 6:10PM
Libyan revolutionary forces have welcomed a peace proposal brokered by the African Union, saying it will ease the departure of Muammar Gaddafi and his regime.
Anti-Gaddafi forces say they understand from the offer that Gaddafi should not be in any way involved in the country's future leadership.
"We understood that the spirit of the document is that Gaddafi will not have a role to play in the future of Libya," Reuters quoted revolutionary representative as saying.
Earlier on Friday, AU leaders at the summit in Guinea offered to host immediate talks between the two sides on a ceasefire and a process of transition towards a democratic state.
However, the 53-nation union has left open the question of Gaddafi's future role in the country. Officials with the Gaddafi regime have yet to publicly react to the plan.
Political experts say it is a fragile accord that presents no solid solution to the ongoing conflict.
Meanwhile, Gaddafi forces have been shelling the revolutionary-held coastal town of Misratah. This while, NATO bombs have reportedly caused casualties in the central region of al-Jufrah.
Scores of civilians have been killed in Libya since US-led forces launched aerial and sea attacks on the North African country.
Revolutionary forces want an end to Gaddafi's decades-long rule
NADHANI KIDOGO COMRED GADDAF ameanza kuwanyoosha....
PressTV - Libyan opposition welcome AU plan
Libyan rebels on Saturday welcomed a peace proposal by the African Union, saying they interpreted it as meaning Muammar Gaddafi should play no further role in the country's leadership.
RPT-Libyan rebels say AU peace plan means Gaddafi exit | News by Country | Reuters
AU Summit Endorses Libya Peace Map, Demands Air Strikes Halt | Africa | English
RPT-Libyan rebels say AU peace plan means Gaddafi exit | News by Country | Reuters
AU Summit Endorses Libya Peace Map, Demands Air Strikes Halt | Africa | English
African Union commission chairman Jean Ping said in an opening speech that the AU favors an inclusive transitional period that would lead to democratic elections.
Ping stressed the inevitability of political reforms in Libya and called the aspirations of the Libyan people "legitimate." He said the international community needed to agree on a way forward.
The statement calling for a transition toward elections is the strongest Libya-related statement to come out of the AU since the Libya crisis began, and could be seen as a strong rebuke to a leader who has long been well regarded by the continental body.
Although U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon had indicated on Thursday that he expected the rebels to be part of the talks, Mustafa Gheriani, a spokesman for the opposition rebels, said he has heard nothing about the meetings.
Nation & World | Libya says it's ready to implement a 'road map' | Seattle Times Newspaper
Ping stressed the inevitability of political reforms in Libya and called the aspirations of the Libyan people "legitimate." He said the international community needed to agree on a way forward.
The statement calling for a transition toward elections is the strongest Libya-related statement to come out of the AU since the Libya crisis began, and could be seen as a strong rebuke to a leader who has long been well regarded by the continental body.
Although U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon had indicated on Thursday that he expected the rebels to be part of the talks, Mustafa Gheriani, a spokesman for the opposition rebels, said he has heard nothing about the meetings.
Nation & World | Libya says it's ready to implement a 'road map' | Seattle Times Newspaper
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Rebels: Gadhafi Can Stay in Libya If He Quits
Sunday, 03 Jul 2011 11:17 AM
BENGHAZI, Libya, July 3 (Reuters) - Moammar Gadhafi is welcome to live out his retirement inside Libya as long as he gives up all power, Libya's rebel chief told Reuters on Sunday in the clearest concession the rebels have so far offered.
Gadhafi has fiercely resisted all international calls for him to go and vowed to fight to the end, but members of his inner circle have given indications they are ready to negotiate with the rebels, including on the Libyan leader's future.
Gadhafi is still holding on to power, five months into a rebellion against his 41-year rule and despite a NATO bombardment and an International Criminal Court arrest warrant for crimes against humanity.
"As a peaceful solution, we offered that he can resign and order his soldiers to withdraw from their barracks and positions, and then he can decide either to stay in Libya or abroad," rebel leader Mustafa Abdel Jalil said in an interview.
"If he desires to stay in Libya, we will determine the place and it will be under international supervision. And there will be international supervision of all his movements," said Jalil, who heads the rebels' National Transitional Council.
Speaking to Reuters in his eastern Libyan stronghold of Benghazi, Abdel Jalil, Gadhafi's former justice minister, said he made the proposal about a month ago through the United Nations but had yet to receive any response from Tripoli.
He said one suggestion was that Gadhafi could spend his retirement under guard in a military barracks.
Newsmax.com
Sunday, 03 Jul 2011 11:17 AM
BENGHAZI, Libya, July 3 (Reuters) - Moammar Gadhafi is welcome to live out his retirement inside Libya as long as he gives up all power, Libya's rebel chief told Reuters on Sunday in the clearest concession the rebels have so far offered.
Gadhafi has fiercely resisted all international calls for him to go and vowed to fight to the end, but members of his inner circle have given indications they are ready to negotiate with the rebels, including on the Libyan leader's future.
Gadhafi is still holding on to power, five months into a rebellion against his 41-year rule and despite a NATO bombardment and an International Criminal Court arrest warrant for crimes against humanity.
"As a peaceful solution, we offered that he can resign and order his soldiers to withdraw from their barracks and positions, and then he can decide either to stay in Libya or abroad," rebel leader Mustafa Abdel Jalil said in an interview.
"If he desires to stay in Libya, we will determine the place and it will be under international supervision. And there will be international supervision of all his movements," said Jalil, who heads the rebels' National Transitional Council.
Speaking to Reuters in his eastern Libyan stronghold of Benghazi, Abdel Jalil, Gadhafi's former justice minister, said he made the proposal about a month ago through the United Nations but had yet to receive any response from Tripoli.
He said one suggestion was that Gadhafi could spend his retirement under guard in a military barracks.
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Rebel council rules out Gaddafi staying in Libya
However, on Monday the council issued a statement by Abdel Jalil saying: "I would like to confirm that there is absolutely no current or future possibility for Gaddafi to remain in Libya ... There is no escape clause for Gaddafi -- he must be removed from power and face justice."
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Gaddafi would go in exchange for security: Russian report
Tue Jul 5, 2011 7:55am GMT
MOSCOW (Reuters) - A Russian newspaper said on Tuesday that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was willing to give up power in exchange for security guarantees, citing a high-level Russian official.
The report in the respected daily Kommersant, which did not identify its source, came a day after the search for ways to end the war in Libya dominated Russia's talks with NATO chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen and South African President Jacob Zuma.
"The colonel (Gaddafi) is sending signals that he is prepared to relinquish power in exchange for security guarantees," Kommersant quoted what it called a high-level source in the Russian leadership as saying.
The source said in the report that other nations, potentially including France, were willing to provide those guarantees.
The Kommersant report also said Gaddafi wanted his son Saif al-Islam to be permitted to run in elections if he steps down, a condition the rebels might not accept.
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Reports of Gaddafi's resignation untrue - Libyan govt spokesman
The Libyan government has not been negotiating about Muammar Gaddafi's future, specifically, his stepping down and seeking a safe refuge, Reuters quotes a Libyan government spokesman Moussa Ibrahim as saying on Tuesday. He stressed that the talks were about "a ceasefire, humanitarian aid, and the start of a dialogue between Libyans, and a transition period to achieve the political change that will be decided by Libyans." Earlier, the Kommersant newspaper quoted a source claiming that Gaddafi was ready to resign if his personal inviolability were guaranteed.
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The Libyan government has not been negotiating about Muammar Gaddafi's future, specifically, his stepping down and seeking a safe refuge, Reuters quotes a Libyan government spokesman Moussa Ibrahim as saying on Tuesday. He stressed that the talks were about "a ceasefire, humanitarian aid, and the start of a dialogue between Libyans, and a transition period to achieve the political change that will be decided by Libyans." Earlier, the Kommersant newspaper quoted a source claiming that Gaddafi was ready to resign if his personal inviolability were guaranteed.
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NATO WANAZIDI KUAIBISHWA NA COMRED GADDAF
Published: 05 July, 2011, 03:01
Edited: 05 July, 2011, 09:15
Tripoli says its forces have intercepted two boats from Qatar carrying a cache of weapons for rebel forces. Libya is under a UN arms embargo, but France has admitted to supplying weapons to rebels.
The load reportedly intercepted on Monday is said to have included about a hundred Belgian-made assault rifles, along with thousands of rounds of ammunition.
Arms-trafficking expert Brian Johnson-Thomas told RT that the supply of weapons by France is more likely to lead to more human rights abuses than to help protect civilians.
"All guns start off being legal, but when they get diverted they go God knows where," Brian Johnson-Thomas explained. "And of course with a gun you are in a position to commit various human rights abuses."
The Security Council arms-trafficking expert pointed out that supplying weapons to either side in the Libyan conflict is a measure banned by the UN Security Council.
France has been among the main powers behind the NATO-led air campaign, which is officially aimed at protecting civilians from assaults by Gaddafi's forces. However, many view a change of regime in Libya as the main reason for the alliance's involvement there. France's latest move has invoked extensive criticism from Russia and the African Union, while China has indirectly objected to it.
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Published: 05 July, 2011, 03:01
Edited: 05 July, 2011, 09:15
Tripoli says its forces have intercepted two boats from Qatar carrying a cache of weapons for rebel forces. Libya is under a UN arms embargo, but France has admitted to supplying weapons to rebels.
The load reportedly intercepted on Monday is said to have included about a hundred Belgian-made assault rifles, along with thousands of rounds of ammunition.
Arms-trafficking expert Brian Johnson-Thomas told RT that the supply of weapons by France is more likely to lead to more human rights abuses than to help protect civilians.
"All guns start off being legal, but when they get diverted they go God knows where," Brian Johnson-Thomas explained. "And of course with a gun you are in a position to commit various human rights abuses."
The Security Council arms-trafficking expert pointed out that supplying weapons to either side in the Libyan conflict is a measure banned by the UN Security Council.
France has been among the main powers behind the NATO-led air campaign, which is officially aimed at protecting civilians from assaults by Gaddafi's forces. However, many view a change of regime in Libya as the main reason for the alliance's involvement there. France's latest move has invoked extensive criticism from Russia and the African Union, while China has indirectly objected to it.
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