The rise and fall of Colonel Muamar Gadaffi

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Gaddafi amelinda heshima ya Libya kama nchi na Afrika.

Ukitaka kuelewa msikilize huyu muzee mwisho wa mahojiano anavyomwambia "mama NATO" aka musungu aoneshe some respect .

 

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Only known survivor of summary execution carried out by Gaddafi's troops says he had no links to the rebels. Evan Hill in Libya Last Modified: 25 Aug 2011 14:08 Email Print Share Feedback ​

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From inside a makeshift prison across the street from Muammar Gaddafi’s compound, Osama Mansour el-Hadi listened to the beginning of the end.
It was Tuesday, and rebels had begun to overrun the sprawling 6km-square complex, known as the Bab al-Aziziya, where Gaddafi’s palace and the homes of his innermost clique sat in a warren of offices and military bunkers.
Gunfire rang out, Hadi told Al Jazeera, and cries of “God is great!” echoed over the compound’s walls.

For many Libyans, it was a joyous moment; the most symbolic assault yet on the reviled regime that had shackled the country for more than 40 years.
But for Hadi and 25 other civilian men, held by armed Gaddafi loyalists at a rundown apartment building now serving as an warzone detention center, a horrific massacre was about to begin.
As machine gun and artillery fire engulfed at the compound across the street, the captors marched Hadi and the other men into the street at gunpoint. They were lined up with the walls of the Bab al-Aziziya behind them as the sounds of the regime’s downfall split the air.
Then Gaddafi’s gunmen opened fire, spraying a barrage of bullets into their captives’ heads, necks and chests.
Hadi collapsed into a pile of shuddering bodies, his shoulder, hand and right thigh shattered by bullets. Another prisoner escaped, Hadi said, and the murderers fled. As of Thursday, there had been no arrests or any known investigation into the grisly killing.
Hadi tells of detention

The bodies were found a day later and taken to Tripoli’s Mitiga Hospital, a facility once-reserved for Gaddafi’s military brass and high-ranking officials that now lies in rebel-controlled territory.
It was here, in a sparse and filthy hospital room, that Hadi told his story to Al Jazeera on Thursday. He was the only known survivor of the summary execution.
Elsewhere in the hospital, 15 of his fellow prisoners were laid out in the corner of the car park under a metal roof. Covered only partially by blood-stained, plastic sheets, some of the victims’ ghastly wounds were exposed. The smell was gagging.
Some men had been identified. One man, Abdelsalem, came from the town of Taghma. Others were simply marked "non-Muslim" for burial purposes.

In the hospital room, Hadi’s forehead creased with pain as he spoke. Someone had draped the tri-colour rebel flag behind his head and over his shoulders. His father, in a pristine-white jalabeya and skullcap, stood watching at his bedside.
Hadi originally comes from Badr, in the western Nafousa Mountains. Rebels there led the advance on Tripoli, but Hadi’s town was sympathetic to Gaddafi. He and his father were not. During the final push on the capital, the two left for the capital.
Hadi was arrested on August 15, five days before the uprising began in the city. He said he had been staying at a house in the Janzour district when 15 armed men came, blindfolded him and took him away. He said he was innocent and claimed to not have been part of the opposition.

Others he met in the makeshift prison had been there longer, for more than two weeks. Most, he said, claimed they were civilians, picked up off the street while walking or riding bicycles.
The guards gave their captives little food to eat, cursed at them, and doused them with urine, Hadi said.
Talk of more mass killings

Outside Hadi’s room, the packed intensive care unit testified to the ongoing clashes in Tripoli. Nearly 30 young men lay injured, awaiting treatment.

Youssef Hodiry, an orthopedic surgeon from the United Kingdom and had recently arrived from Misrata, said the hospital had few medical staff, most had run away or were too afraid to come to work.
By Thursday, Mitiga Hospital was running low on tetanus shots and immunoglobin syrums, doctors said. Representatives from the International Medical Corps had arrived to assess the situation. They photographed the bodies of the dead prisoners as well.
According to Mohammed Rashed, a general surgeon from the United Kingdom who had arrived in Tripoli from Misrata just days ago, the hospital had no forensic surgeons to examine the murdered men.

Nobody had conducted any autopsies, he said, adding that two of the bodies had already been taken away by relatives for a funeral.
Tripoli is these days flooded with rumours of other massacres. Locals speak of prison executions and rebel corpses found in shipping containers.
As the truth comes out, the dead men who were laid in a car park at Mitiga Hospital are hard evidence that the fall of Tripoli had not been free of war’s atrocities.
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President Barack Obama on Friday condemned as "horrific" a car bomb attack on the United Nations headquarters in the Nigerian capital Abuja that killed at least 18 people.
"An attack on Nigerian and international public servants demonstrates the bankruptcy of the ideology that led to this heinous action," Obama said in statement.
Obama condems attack on UN in Nigeria as horrific | Top News | Reuters

Auiii, ouuii!
Missiles na mabomu yanayodondoshwa na NATO na US Libya yatakuwa ni kitu gani katika Lugha ya Obama, Rais wa US?

Kuna ule msemo wa nyani haoni........
Yaani haya maneno aliyotumia Obama kuelezea tukio hii la Nigeria ni nyororo ukilinganisha na uhalifuna uharibifu wa US na NATO wanaoufanya Libya.

Isieleweke kuwa nabariki uhalifu uliofanywa Nigeria, hapana...kinachonishangaza mimi ni upindishaji wa maneno na lugha za hawa wababe wahalifu ambao pia ni majambazi.

 

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by Stephen Lendman

Trapped for days in Tripoli's Rixos Hotel, the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) arranged for the release of over 30 foreign journalists yesterday.

They're now at the Corinthia Hotel, awaiting a boat for transport to Malta, then home via Europe that can't arrive until fighting subsides. Given the chaos and violence, it could be a while.

Among them are heroic independent journalists, unable to report vital truths on the ground. For now, only their safe passage home matters, but what they witnessed firsthand will be sorely missed.

As a result, it'll be much harder to know what's ongoing. Rest assured, this writer and others will report what's known as fully and accurately as possible to keep the freedom flame for all Libyans alive.

They deserve no less in light of what NATO has in mind, including carving up the Libya corpse for profit.

In fact, scrambling for its oil began began last April when Italy's Foreign Minister Franco Frattini said energy giant ENI CEO Paolo Scaroni had talks with Transitional National Council (TNC) officials "to restart cooperation in the energy sector and get going again the collaboration with Italy in the oil sector."

In June, the Washington Post said ConocoPhillips, other US oil giants, and related companies also held talks with TNC officials. Engineering firm Quantum Reservoir Impact CEO Nansen Saleri said:

"Now you can figure out who's going to win, and the name is not Gaddafi. Certain things about the mosaic are taking shape. The Western companies are positioning themselves. Five years from now, Libyan production is going to be higher than right now and investments are going to come in." Or so he hopes.

Though accounting for only 2% of world production, Libya is Africa's most oil rich state. Moreover, its high quality is especially valued, and reports suggest vast reserves yet to be explored.

On August 22, New York Times writer Clifford Krauss headlined, "The Scramble for Access to Libya's Oil Wealth Begins," saying:

The fighting hasn't ended, "but the scramble to secure access to Libya's oil wealth has already begun."

In fact, vultures began circling months earlier, believing Libya's corpse was only a matter of time. Perhaps so. Perhaps not. Despite all the hoopla, the jury is very much out.

Nonetheless, besides ENI and ConocoPhillips, other companies wanting back in include Britain's BP, France's Total, Spain's Repsol YPF, Austria's OMV, America's Hess, Marathon, perhaps ExxonMobil, and others.

Excluded will be Russia, Brazil, and especially China on orders from Washington, calling the shots absent Gaddafi, at least for now.

Moreover, the Obama administration and NATO partners prepared a detailed plan for Libya without him, including a United Arab Emirates-supported occupation force, supplemented perhaps by UN Blue Helmets.

In other words, lost Libyan sovereignty will be replaced by paramilitary occupiers under a puppet government serving Western interests, not Libyans. The very notion should inspire continued resistance as in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere.

The Mossad-connected DEBKAfile's information can be right or wrong. That said, on August 23, it claimed "(t)housands of fighters from tribes loyal to Qaddafi are reported (to be) streaming to Sabha" in southwestern Libya where some believe Gaddafi may have fled.

"Prominent among them (are) members of his own Gaddadfa tribe," numbering about 100,000, based in Sirte on the coast between Tripoli and Benghazi.

DEBKA said UK, French, Jordanian and Qatari Special Forces "spearheaded the rebel 'killer strike' " on Tripoli and Gaddafi's Bab al-Azaziya compound. It's the first time Western and Arab troops "fought together on the same battlefield in any of the (2011) Arab revolts, and the first ever that Arab forces took part in a NATO operation."

Western elements involved included UK SAS commandos, and France's 2REP (similar to US DELTA force units) along with Jordanian Royal Special forces, "specialists in urban combat and capturing fortified installations...." Qatari special forces are also participating.

Despite other conflicting reports, DEBKA claimed Tripoli is largely under rebel control, adding "there is quite a way to go before the war is over." Based on continuing Afghanistan and Iraq hostilities, maybe longer than DEBKA or others imagine.

On the Progressive Radio News Hour (taped Thursday for Saturday airing), Law Professor Francis Boyle told listeners to expect continued conflict, as well as the danger of greater general war regionally, and perhaps beyond. He's not alone believing it, including Webster Tarpley who sees protracted civil war.

He and others also reject reports that Tripoli is largely in rebel control, saying unresolved street fighting continues.

The Big Lie Vying with Truth and Accuracy

Throughout months of conflict, an information war falsified pro-NATO/insurgent victories.

The idea, of course, is controlling the message, confusing the enemy, and making Libyans as well as populations in NATO countries believe things are going as planned, heading for victory.

In fact, conditions in Tripoli and elsewhere are chaotic. Nothing is resolved, and at issue is whether larger NATO forces will get involved if insurgents can't prevail.

So far, they've created mayhem, supplemented by heavy bombing and strafing. It's also believed that rebel forces incurred heavy casualties. Without air support, they'd have been easily routed.

On August 24, Voice of Russia broadcasting said:

"Russian agencies quote Ukrainian medical workers in (Tripoli) speaking of chaotic shooting, barricad(ing) building(s), carjacking(s) and mass looting around. Residents try to stay indoors."

"Eyewitnesses say armed gangs have ransacked the Embassy of Bulgaria and attacked the Embassy of South Korea and the residential compound of the Ambassador of Ukraine."

Fighting in Tripoli continues. As a result, "(a)nalysts believe it is too early to say that the rebels are in full control...."

So early, in fact, that major media gloating, disinformation, and managed news distort reality on the ground. Moreover, their exposed lies show nothing they report is credible.

The closest thing to truth and accuracy from The New York Times were a few admissions in Anthony Shadid's August 24 article headlined, "After Arab Revolts, Reigns of Uncertainty," saying:

"....Libya's unfinished revolution, as inspiring as it is unsettling, illustrates how perilous that change has become as it unfolds in this phase of the Arab Spring."

Fact check

A Western-instigated insurgency continues, not a revolution. Extremely violent and "unsettling," it's hardly inspiring for millions of Libyans who've suffered hugely since NATO and insurgent killers arrived.

As for the "Arab Spring," at best it hasn't bloomed, not even close, in fact, despite how inspiring it is to people throughout the region to continue struggling for rights long denied them.

Shadid did include a few kernels of truth, calling the TNC leadership "fractured and opaque." He added that enlisting "foreigners" as insurgents is "the kind of intervention that has long been toxic to the Arab world," and transitioning "to a new order (anywhere) may prove....tumultuous."

In Libya, Egypt, Bahrain, Tunisia, and elsewhere in the region, it falls short of exhibiting democratic birth pangs nowhere in sight, what Shadid neglected to mention.

Also omitted was what government spokesman Dr. Moussa Ibrahim explained - that pro-Gaddafi forces control 20 cities and other areas across the country, adding:

"(W)e will continue fighting till Gaddafi comes back to power once again in Libya. The entire leadership is in Tripoli. The lawful armed forces (army and volunteers) control the city."

That's a far different picture from what NATO and Western media liars claim, as well as disreputable academics like Professor Juan Cole, saying in an August 22 article:

"The Libyan Revolution has largely succeeded, and this is a moment of celebration, not only for Libyans but for a youth generation in the Arab world that has pursued a political opening across the region."

"The secret of the uprising's final days of success lay in a popular revolt in the working-class districts of the capital....so (successful, in fact) that when revolutionary brigades entered the city from the west, many encountered little or no resistance, and they walked right into the center of the capital."

The above and Cole's entire article reeks of misinformation, distortions, and ball-faced lies. It represents a shameless display of intellectual dishonesty, combined perhaps with someone who knows better on the take.

Sadly, he's not alone, highlighting Big Lie power and deep pockets backing it - major media regurgitated official discourse in place of truth and accuracy. When repeated enough, it convinces most people unwilling to check facts to believe it.

Most true perhaps is that conditions continue to be fast-moving, fluid, chaotic, violent, and far from resolved. Also true is Gaddafi remains overwhelmingly popular. In addition, Libyans revile NATO and insurgent killers they want no part of. As a result, they may wage a tougher, longer fight than expected.

Whether it's enough to prevail over NATO remains to be seen. What's clear is that most Libyans hope so.

So do others believing everyone has the right to live free from imperial domination.

Maybe the Arab Spring spirit will inspire Libyans and others in the region and elsewhere not to quit. It's their only chance.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

Also visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com and listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network Thursdays at 10AM US Central time and Saturdays and Sundays at noon. All programs are archived for easy listening.

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Libyan rebels said they were sending in special forces units in their hunt for fugitive strongman Muammar Gaddafi, whose supporters are now pinned down in pockets of resistance in the capital, Tripoli.
Rebels send in special forces to hunt for Gaddafi | Top News | Reuters

Hii kali ...we wacha tu.. Hawa "US-NATO agents" aka rebels wana special forces?
Au ni lugha ya kuzunguka yakusema sasa Askari wa NATO tayari wamo kazini Libya....tuliambiwa "no boots on the ground", No US-NATO ground troops... The mission is to protect civilians and not regime change so we were told.

 

[Askari Kanzu]

Gaddafi amelinda heshima ya Libya kama nchi na Afrika.

Ukitaka kuelewa...

Na ukitaka kuelewa zaidi hebu iangalie hii picha na utafakari kwa umakini msemo wa "Gaddafi amelinda heshima ya Libya kama nchi na Afrika." Pia fikiria kwa makini msimamo wa viongozi wa Africa kupitia AU, walivyomuunga mkono Gaddafi (na kuwasakama "rebels") kwa kuweka maslahi yao mbele, na matokeo yake kwa waafrica wengi wasio na hatia!


Hatma ya hawa vijana watatu ni kuuawa hata kama walikuwa hawana hatia. Kama AU ingemkemea Gaddafi tangu mwanzoni haya yasingetokea. Lakini AU walimwogopa Gaddafi kwa sababu alikuwa anawapa "maslahi." Na sasa AU wameumbuka. AU ni kilabu cha mafisadi. Trust me!

 

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Nani alisema mission ya Libya ni ku-protect civilians?

Msikilize Bolton.....to get rid of Gaddafi.

 

[Nonda]

Na ukitaka kuelewa zaidi hebu iangalie hii picha na utafakari kwa umakini msemo wa "Gaddafi amelinda heshima ya Libya kama nchi na Afrika." Pia fikiria kwa makini msimamo wa viongozi wa Africa kupitia AU, walivyomuunga mkono Gaddafi (na kuwasakama "rebels") kwa kuweka maslahi yao mbele, na matokeo yake kwa waafrica wengi wasio na hatia!
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Angalia post 4482.

NATO bombings ndio sababu na sio gaddafi, mkuu.

 

[Askari Kanzu]

Nani alisema mission ya Libya ni ku-protect civilians?

Msikilize Bolton.....to get rid of Gaddafi.

WhO THE HelL iS BoLTOn?

 

[Askari Kanzu]

Angalia post 4482.

NATO bombings ndio sababu na sio gaddafi, mkuu.

And that's why you'll always get it wrong, in my opinion!

 

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Three cheers for the author and Daudi Mchambuzi,this is very different from what we hear and read,thought provoking to say the least.

 

[GAZETI]

Aaah! Hayo mambo ni madogo tu kwa Ngeleja akiamua, anaweza kuwa na mahekalu makubwa kuliko hayo akitaka. Usicheze na mawaziri wa TZ.

 

[Moseley]

WhO THE HelL iS BoLTOn?

Who the Hell are you??

 

[Askari Kanzu]

Who the Hell is you??

What's wrong with you? I am Askari Kanzu. Now, whO tHe heLL R U?

 

[MkamaP]

Kipigo ambacho REBEL na NATO walichokipata kutoka kwa Gadafi hawatakaa wakisahahu, NATO imezikwa Tripoli kwisha kazi kabisa nata waandishi wa bbc sijui nao wametoroka tripoli maana hakuna tena live kuripoti. Angalia wanakuja na propaganda mpya ya soft transistion of power. hah ha ha ha ha

Tripoli, Libya (CNN) -- Rebel fighters say they are in control of most of Libya's capital, though the months-long war appeared far from over Saturday.
As rebels worked to extend their reach, Moammar Gadhafi's forces battled back from a number of loyalist strongholds in Libya.
The fighting followed warnings by the United Nations and its diplomatic partners that widespread shortages of food, water, fuel and medical supplies could further destabilize the region.
"All agreed that the crisis in Libya has entered a new and decisive phase," U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said, following conversations Friday with the heads of the African Union, the League of Arab States and others.
"All agreed, as well, on the importance of a smooth transition."

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Ban said the transition from Gadhafi's rule must be based on inclusiveness, reconciliation and national unity.
"All agreed that, if the Libyan authorities request, we should be prepared to help develop police capacity, bearing in mind that the country is awash with small arms," Ban said.
The rebel's leadership, the National Transitional Council, has called on the U.N. Security Council to order the release of billions of dollars frozen by the United States and others at the onset of the war.
Though the National Transitional Council has been recognized by 57 countries and the United Nations as the legitimate representative of the Libyan people, the African Union failed to follow suit during a meeting Friday. It also has opposed the release of Libyan funds to the rebel leadership, saying there was no one in charge of the country.
The African Union's Peace and Security Council issued a communiqué that urged the "formation of an inclusive transitional government."
Gadhafi, who served as chairman of the organization in 2009, has strong ties to some of its members, including Algeria and Chad. There has been speculation that should Gadhafi flee Libya, one of the two countries would accept him.
Gadhafi has not been seen since rebels advanced on the Libyan capital last week, though he has taken to radio airwaves and urged loyalists to fight. The transitional council has placed a $1.4 million bounty on Gadhafi's head to whoever brings him in or kills him.
"Right now, as I've been saying the past few days, right now there is no evidence to indicate that Gadhafi has left Libya," Josh Earnest, President Obama's principal deputy press secretary, told reporters Friday.
It is unclear who is directing Gadhafi's forces, who have been battling back at a number of loyalist strongholds.
In Gadhafi's hometown of Sirte, NATO warplanes bombed a headquarters bunker, the UK Defence Ministry said. Tornado aircraft fired a salvo of precision-guided missiles into the city, which is east of the Libyan capital on the central coast, it said.
Clashes also were reported along Libya's western border, where rebels took control of the main border crossing between the two countries, according to Tunisian state-run media.
In the heart of the capital, rebels began exploring a vast network of tunnels that run underneath Gadhafi's Bab al-Aziziya compound -- the scene of heavy fighting in recent days.
Inside the tunnels, rebels discovered a golf cart believed to be used to navigate the thick-walled hallways, which they believe lead from the compound to the fiercely contested airport, said CNN's Sara Sidner, who joined the rebels to explore the underground network.
A former U.S. airbase converted by Gadhafi into a military airport also was opened up by the rebels in Tripoli, revealing long lines of helicopters and dust-laden jets once worth millions of dollars apiece rusting on the tarmac.
Rebels tore down a statue at the airport of a fist clenching a fighter jet, which was erected by Gadhafi after American fighters struck the leader's Tripoli compound in retaliation for sponsoring terrorism strikes against U.S. citizens.
Rebels fought to retain control of the Tripoli International Airport, which has been shelled repeatedly in recent days by loyalists entrenched in a village to the east.
A 17-year-old rebel said he hates war but feels forced to fight until the war ends. At that point, "I'm going to see my mother. I'm going to see my family," said Louis al-Zinatni. "I'm going to remove this gun from my hands. It's not for me."
The war's toll was evident at one Tripoli hospital where dozens of bodies lay abandoned, said CNN's Nic Robertson, who toured the hospital with rebels.
One man was overwhelmed with joy to discover his son among the wounded inside the hospital. But his joy was tempered by the fact that the son's wound -- a bullet to the chest -- could still prove fatal, Robertson said.
The continued fighting came amid mounting evidence of revenge killings by rebels and loyalists.
Amnesty International said Friday it had gathered accounts from survivors of abuse in Zawiya by pro-Gadhafi soldiers and rebel forces.
Amnesty said it also uncovered evidence that pro-Gadhafi forces killed detainees at two military camps in Tripoli on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Escaped detainees said loyalist forces had used grenades and gunfire on scores of prisoners at one camp, while guards at the other camp fatally shot five detainees.
"Loyalist forces in Libya must immediately stop such killings of captives, and both sides must commit to ensuring no harm comes to prisoners in their custody," Amnesty International said.
The International Criminal Court has issued an arrest warrant for Gadhafi alleging crimes against humanity.
Meanwhile, the United Nations Education, Scientific and Cultural Organization warned antiquities dealers and others to be on the look out for Libyan artifacts that may be looted during the unrest.
"Experience shows that there is a serious danger of destruction during times of social upheaval," Irina Bokova, UNESCO's director-general, said.
"Careless dealers who buy these objects and fragments are in fact inciting more looting. It is, therefore, crucial that the international antiquities market be particularly wary of objects from Libya in the present circumstances."
CNN's Nic Robertson, Dan Rivers, Sara Sidner, Arwa Damon, Raja Razek, Chelsea J. Carter and Pam Benson contributed to this report.

 

[Moseley]

What's wrong with you? I am Askari Kanzu. Now, whO tHe heLL R U?

I am just a Tanzanian against Neo-Colonization... That is the hell I am..

I don't support Gaddafi, he made a mistake for not implementing democracy in his country, and this has been used as a pretext to intervene Libya.. But he is really a good leader and he has done a lot of great things.. I mentioned before and you rubbished the facts about him. He is not a dictator in the way westerners claim. We are being brainwashed by the western media and now we are servants of western media.. We are just like robots, we assimilate whatever western says.. What a shame!!!..

Why NATO/UN didn't backup the African roadmap??

Let us take a simple logic.. Even if Rebels have support from Libyans, Ghaddafi also have a lot of supporters in Libya, regardless of whatever you name him.. Why didn't NATO facilitate the dialogue between the two sides?? Since febuary 2011, no any fact finding mission that was sent into the ground in Libya to investigate the claim that Ghaddafi is bombing demonstrators in the Streets.. Why NATO is using media lies to intervene Libya?? Why UN didn't backup AU in solving the problem peacefully?? Libyan officials challenged NATO/UN. They told them that if they want Ghaddafi to step down, let the Libyans vote for him, whether to step down or continue with his position but UN/NATO responded with bombs!!

Why UN/NATO are violating the international laws by intervening the sovereign country without being challenged?? Is this Libyan-rebel's revolution or NATO's revolution??!! Is there any law which mandate UN/NATO to execute a regime change??

What about the demonstration of Ghaddafi supporters in Tripoli, Sirte, Zlintan,Sabha and other cities??

Are the colonizers now so concerned of African civilians????? NO!! They are after wealth, Revenge, aggression and re-colonisation!!!!!!! Gaddafi is a threat to western countries.. His plan to unit Africa in order to have African Monetary Fund, African Army, Exchange of oil using Gold is a really threat to the western countries..

If you are supporting NATO aggression, Is either you don't know the truth about Libya, or you are just a western stooge!!

 

[MkamaP]

Sahizi tuna Jacob Zuma, bila Zuma wale jamaa wangekubali kuwatambua rebel.

 

[Gamba la Nyoka]

i am just a tanzanian against neo-colonization... That is the hell i am..

I don't support gaddafi, he made a mistake for not implementing democracy in his country, and this has been used as a pretext to intervene libya.. But he is really a good leader and he has done a lot of great things.. I mentioned before and you rubbished the facts about him. He is not a dictator in the way westerners claim, we are being brainwashed by the media and now we are servants of western media.. We are just like robots, we assimilate whatever western says.. What a shame!!!..

Why nato/un didn't backup the african roadmap??

Let us take a simple logic.. Even if rebels have support from libyans, ghaddafi also have a lot of supporters in libya, regardless of whatever you name him.. Why didn't nato facilitate the dialogue between the two sides?? Since febuary 2011, no any fact finding mission that was sent into the ground in libya to investigate the claim that ghaddafi is bombing demonstrators in the streets.. Why nato is using media lies to intervene libya?? Why un didn't backup au in solving the problem peacefully?? Libyan officials challenged nato/un, they told them that if they want ghaddafi to step down, let the libyans vote for him, whether to step down or to continue with his position but un/nato responded with bombs!!

What about the demonstration of ghaddafi supporters in tripoli, sirte, zlintan,sabha and other cities??

The colonizers are now so concerned for african civilians????? No!! They are after wealth, revenge, aggression and re-colonisation!!!!!!! Gaddafi is a threat to western countries.. His plan to unit africa in order to have african monetary fund, african army, exchange of oil using gold is a really threat to the western countries..

If you are supporting nato aggression, is either you don't know the truth about libya, or you are the western stooge!!

i concur with you!. You have nailed it man!, kuna watu humu ndani hawaelewi the big picture, wamekalia mara ooh! Democracy, mara ooh dictator!, hata kama angekuwa si gadafi lakini mtu anayehatarisha maslahi ya west, wangemchomoa tu!, gadafi alitaka kudeal na west kama "equal partners" na siyo "puppet" lakini west hawataki kabisa kusikia kitu cha namna hiyo, sasa wamemsukia zengwe. Na hao waasi wa benghazi sasa wameiweka nchi yao katika ukoloni tena.

 

[Askari Kanzu]

I am just a Tanzanian against Neo-Colonization... That is the hell I am..

It is strange that you bestow upon yourself the anti neo-colonialist title while you solemnly laud the African Union, AU, which in my opinion is but a collection of anachronistic and retrogressive politicians who are responsible for the current African malaise! It is largely those African leaders in AU that are responsible for the current wave of neo-colonialism that is sweeping across the continent!

Let me put it this way: I am more of an anti neo-colonialist than you are!

 

[Moseley]

It is strange that you bestow upon yourself the anti neo-colonialist title while you solemnly laud the African Union, AU, which in my opinion is but a collection of anachronistic and retrogressive politicians who are responsible for the current African malaise! It is largely those African leaders in AU that are responsible for the current wave of neo-colonialism that is sweeping across the continent!

Let me put it this way: I am more of an anti neo-colonialist than you are!

Ni kweli kwenye kundi la mamba hata kenge wamo.. Ila naona Unajichanganya...

So, kwa maana hiyo UN/NATO ndo watatusaidia kuondoa ukoloni mambo leo na kuijaza media na ujinga tunaouona, kuwaibia wananchi wa Libya na kuwatisha independent Journalists???? Naomba ujibu previous post yangu vizuri ili niangalie kama majibu yako yatakua na substance ili nami niwaunge mkono waasi !!

Ndo kwa mara ya kwanza naona mtu anapinga Ukoloni mambo leo, wakati huohuo anaunga mkono NATO, western Imperialism na violation za International laws!!