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The rise and fall of Colonel Muamar Gadaffi
The rise and fall of Colonel Muamar Gadaffi
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Laggards hamkosekani ktk kila jambo, maana hata zimbabwe wapigania uhuru kama wewe wameapa kufa na Mugabe wakidhani wanaipigania zimbabwe dhidi ya ukoloni mamboleo. Hiyo ndo hasara ya inferiority complex; watu infeiror wakati wowote wanajihami mpaka wanashindwa kuona udhifu wao na ndo maana pamoja na unafiki wa AU, Wazungu wameamua kutufundisha jinsi ya kuchukua maamuzi magumu maana ile club ya matonyas (AU) ilishindwa kumshughulikia hata Gbagbo mpaka Ufaransa walipochukua hatua. Bila hivyo nakuhakikishia Gbagbo angekuwa rais pamoja na kushindwa uchaguzi kama ilivyotokea kwa kibaki na Mugabe. Badala ya kuilaumu NATO tujadili udhaifu wa AU ndo tutafanikiwa kujitambua.
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NN unatafuta balaa wewe,lol! Huyo mke wa Col. AU watakufanyia mkutano sasa hivi wa kutotambua uhusiano wenu.
Kuna uchambuzi niliusikia siku moja ..unasema hii kutumia mujahedeen aka Al qaeda ni doctrine ya Brezinski.. alifanya hivyo 1970 na sasa ni mshauri wa Obama. Connect the dots.
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Widespread racist murders in Libya at the hands of rebel forces revealed:
By Madison Ruppert
The mainstream media is already engaging in widespread damage control in an attempt to mitigate the fallout of the reality of the situation in
Libya and the withering NATO-sponsored narrative of post-Gaddafi Libya.
They are called "Gaddafi loyalists", "Sub-Saharan mercenaries" and other phrases all pointing to the unfortunate reality that every single black person is now considered by the rebels to be a mercenary hired by Gaddafi.
The Libyan rebels and those carrying water for them in the Western media are now attempting to conceal the fact that they are now committing crimes against humanity in the active targeting of innocent black Libyans.
Some call the attacks "reprisals" or "revenge" but in reality they are hateful murders carried out by the al Qaeda-affiliated, Western backed and trained rebels.
These killings are irrefutably tied to the wildly racist and wholly unfounded claims that Gaddafi hired Sub-Saharan African mercenaries to murder his own people during the uprising.
Unfortunately for the painfully ignorant rebels and their Western compatriots, this is simply not true and has never been verified in any way.
As I covered in my article about the "waves of disinformation" emanating out of Libya, even the New York Times now is forced to admit that there is no substantiation for the claims whatsoever.
The rebels have alleged that they captured these so-called mercenaries but quite conveniently they have never been able to show a single international journalist these captured fighters.
Why? It is pretty simple: there are no black mercenaries that were being used to kill Libyans. In fact, there have been no verified instances of Gaddafi ordering the targeting of peaceful civilians in Libya.
This aspect of the false narrative was debunked so long ago that it seems most of the mainstream media has dispensed with it altogether.
However, the representatives of the undemocratic, racist (notice there are no black Libyan rebel leaders, interesting, isn't it?) and thoroughly corrupt National Transitional Council continue to peddle these tired lies.
I was watching the Qatari propaganda outlet Al Jazeera earlier today and I witnessed a fascinating exchange between a homogenous panel of "experts" discussing the future of Libya and the relations with the African Union.
One member of the panel was a spokesman for the illegitimate Libyan NTC. This individual parroted every single thoroughly vetted and discredited rebel claim that they have been making since the first days of the conflict.
These included "mass rape", enormous numbers of civilians allegedly killed by Gaddafi and the hiring of Sub-Saharan mercenaries to fight the people of Libya.
Despite the fact that all of these claims have remained unsubstantiated and some have been completely discredited altogether, the moderator and a professor at Oxford University all nodded in agreement and sat silently by while the rebel spokesman continued to spew pure propaganda and lies.
I was quite disgusted by this lack of journalistic integrity on the part of Al Jazeera. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised that a station funded by the first Arab nation to drop bombs on innocent people in Libya would be propagandizing the ignorant members of their audience.
Regardless, I always seem to expect that non-Western news outlet might have a bit more integrity and honesty but I am continually disappointed.
The reality of the situation in Libya is ugly and every day that goes by it looks more like it is turning into another Iraq or Afghanistan.
The West seems to have a knack for turning people against themselves based on imaginary divisions of skin color, national origin or religious sect.
In Libya it is an especially dangerous situation because it is quite obvious by now that much of the rebel forces have been successfully convinced that black people are automatically Gaddafi mercenaries, even though this is completely untrue.
One must wonder who is directing these operations on the ground and perpetuating these myths. Could it be the many Anglo-American Special Forces troops that are admittedly on the ground in Arab disguises?
One cannot say that this is occuring with any amount of certainty, but one can say, based on historical precedent that this is likely the case. Take, for instance, in 2005 when undercover British soldiers were arrested by Iraqi police for allegedly murdering an Iraqi policeman. This is just one of many examples of similar events occurring in Iraq and elsewhere to raise tensions and destabilize the region.
While there is currently no evidence that proves foreign agents are behind inciting this racist violence, one can safely say that based on the past it would be hard to imagine that Western forces are not encouraging such actions.
The British news organization the Independent has published an article today that revealed some of the instances of this tragic race-based violence in Libya.
One man named Ahmed Bin Sabri told the Independent as he pulled back a tent flap, "Come and see. These are blacks, Africans, hired by Gaddafi, mercenaries."
Speaking of the dead bodies put on display by Bin Sabri, the Independent aptly points out, "Why had an injured man receiving treatment been executed?"
Bin Sabri merely shrugged in response and the Independent writes, "It was seemingly incomprehensible to him that anything wrong had been done."
This lack of understanding seems to be widespread among the Libyan rebels and their supporters across the world. It seems as if the rebels can do no wrong and when they are guilty of crimes against humanity they are merely advised to restrain themselves.
Why are the rebels not treated with the same hostility that Gaddafi and his forces were regarded with? Why is NATO not bombing rebels now?
If they actually had any intention of following the United Nations resolution that allows them to be there which mandates the protection of Libyan civilians, they would be attacking the rebels now.
But, of course, they are not. They will not, as the rebels have already made it clear that they will serve their Western masters that have allowed them to come to power through the establishment of a private bank and their sales of oil.
Interestingly, the Independent article still paints a somewhat biased picture of the aftermath of the "revolution" in Libya.
In Gaddafi's latest broadcast he warned that the people of Tripoli would be targeted by revolutionaries and that women would be raped in their homes. The Independent calls these "unsubstantiated, as are similar claims by his official apologist, Moussa Ibrahim."
I think that this is a little bit too early to make such generalizations. We have indeed seen that the Libyan rebels are targeting the people of Tripoli, so how exactly are these claims unsubstantiated?
In the next paragraph they claim that Gaddafi "has repeatedly unleashed appalling violence on its own people."
Actually, these claims are just as unsubstantiated as Gaddafi's, but since this is a Western media outlet one wouldn't expect them to point that out, I guess.
However, one must give them credit for pointing out that "the mounting number of deaths of men from sub-Saharan Africa at the hands of the rebels – lynchings in many cases – raises disturbing questions about the opposition administration, the Transitional National Council (TNC) taking over as Libya's government, and about western backing for it."
This is an important passage because the West has indeed openly supported the non-democratically declared Libyan government without hesitation.
Other parts of the world, on the other hand, have not been so quick to endorse the murderous band of criminals affiliated with al Qaeda that the media lovingly calls the rebels.
Take the African Union, for example. They refused to recognize the Transitional Council until the violence ceased. The aforementioned segment on Al Jazeera included the rebel spokesman excoriating the AU for their prudent "wait and see" approach.
This shouldn't be surprising as the rebels are attempting to draw together as much support as possible before the world begins to realize that their forces are committing and have committed war crimes throughout the uprising.
Tripoli is not the only city that has been marred by racist violence at the hands of rebel forces in Libya.
Amnesty International has reported that similar acts of brutality have been committed in the coastal city of Zawiyah. They have reported that black Sub-Saharan African migrant workers have been killed there just as they have throughout Libya since the uprising started.
The rebel attempts at explaining why they have been summarily executing black people who they suspect to be mercenaries are laughable at best.
When the Independent posed this question, "if the men had been killed in action, why did they have their hands tied behind their back?" A rebel fighter from Misrata named Mushab Abdullah said, "Maybe they were injured, and they had to be brought to this hospital and the handcuffs were to stop them from attacking. And then something went wrong."
The rebels are clearly lacking guidance and sound decision-making skills. Just look at the case of Ahmed Safar Warfalla, a man accused of spreading Gaddafi propaganda. He told the Independent, "They accuse me of a crime, but this is what I did" […] taking out a copy of the Koran from his pocket and pointing it to the sky. "Allah and Libya," he shouted. "They have Nato technology? This is Arab, Muslim technology. We shall not be defeated."
I was unaware that the Koran was Gaddafi propaganda but apparently even the rebel militia realized that this claim was a bit farfetched and allegedly decided to let Warfalla go free, because, "the man is mad".
To be fair, Amnesty International has also reported that pro-Gaddafi forces have killed detainees at two camps in Tripoli where 160 prisoners attempted to flee. Amnesty International says that they have "uncovered evidence" of this and that 23 prisoners were able to flee successfully.
A bunker in Muammar Gaddafi's hometown of Sirte came under fire from cruise missiles launched by RAF Tornado GR4 bombers, about which a rebel spokesman said, "Maybe the mercenaries there will run away."
Again, the rebels seem to hold on to the delusion that there is no way a single Libyan could actually support Gaddafi and thus the only people still loyal to the now-underground leader are mercenaries. This is far from the truth and has been proven as such time and time again.
Even the Washington Post admitted that some of the deaths in Tripoli do not seem like normal battlefield deaths.
They report, "not all of them looked like ordinary battlefield deaths." Speaking of the dead bodies left in the wake of the attack on Gaddafi's Bab al-Aziziyah compound in Tripoli. "Two dead men lay face down on the grass, their hands bound behind their backs with plastic cuffs."
I'm not sure how that could be anything other than a summary execution but I'm sure a rebel could come up with some legitimate explanation about how "something happened."
The Amnesty International researcher for Libya, Diana Eltahawy told the Washington Post that many of the Sub-Saharan African detainees in Zawiyah were migrant workers who were "taken at gunpoint from their homes, workplaces and the street on account of their skin color".
The Washington Post claims that the civilian leadership of the rebel forces are attempting to stop their forces from committing "revenge attacks" but this is just silly seeing as they continue unabated and have no sign of ending any time soon.
The fact that the attacks are largely based on skin color does not bode well, as it is not as if one day their skin color will change and they can go back to business as usual.
All of this racially based hatred among rebels is not going to go away on its own. The hypocritical treatment of these murders is just another point in case proving that NATO and the West have no interest in protecting civilians but instead are interested in regime change and putting stooges in power who will serve their Western masters like Gaddafi would not.
More alternative news at End the Lie
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By Madison Ruppert
The mainstream media is already engaging in widespread damage control in an attempt to mitigate the fallout of the reality of the situation in
Libya and the withering NATO-sponsored narrative of post-Gaddafi Libya.
They are called "Gaddafi loyalists", "Sub-Saharan mercenaries" and other phrases all pointing to the unfortunate reality that every single black person is now considered by the rebels to be a mercenary hired by Gaddafi.
The Libyan rebels and those carrying water for them in the Western media are now attempting to conceal the fact that they are now committing crimes against humanity in the active targeting of innocent black Libyans.
Some call the attacks "reprisals" or "revenge" but in reality they are hateful murders carried out by the al Qaeda-affiliated, Western backed and trained rebels.
These killings are irrefutably tied to the wildly racist and wholly unfounded claims that Gaddafi hired Sub-Saharan African mercenaries to murder his own people during the uprising.
Unfortunately for the painfully ignorant rebels and their Western compatriots, this is simply not true and has never been verified in any way.
As I covered in my article about the "waves of disinformation" emanating out of Libya, even the New York Times now is forced to admit that there is no substantiation for the claims whatsoever.
The rebels have alleged that they captured these so-called mercenaries but quite conveniently they have never been able to show a single international journalist these captured fighters.
Why? It is pretty simple: there are no black mercenaries that were being used to kill Libyans. In fact, there have been no verified instances of Gaddafi ordering the targeting of peaceful civilians in Libya.
This aspect of the false narrative was debunked so long ago that it seems most of the mainstream media has dispensed with it altogether.
However, the representatives of the undemocratic, racist (notice there are no black Libyan rebel leaders, interesting, isn't it?) and thoroughly corrupt National Transitional Council continue to peddle these tired lies.
I was watching the Qatari propaganda outlet Al Jazeera earlier today and I witnessed a fascinating exchange between a homogenous panel of "experts" discussing the future of Libya and the relations with the African Union.
One member of the panel was a spokesman for the illegitimate Libyan NTC. This individual parroted every single thoroughly vetted and discredited rebel claim that they have been making since the first days of the conflict.
These included "mass rape", enormous numbers of civilians allegedly killed by Gaddafi and the hiring of Sub-Saharan mercenaries to fight the people of Libya.
Despite the fact that all of these claims have remained unsubstantiated and some have been completely discredited altogether, the moderator and a professor at Oxford University all nodded in agreement and sat silently by while the rebel spokesman continued to spew pure propaganda and lies.
I was quite disgusted by this lack of journalistic integrity on the part of Al Jazeera. Then again, I shouldn't be surprised that a station funded by the first Arab nation to drop bombs on innocent people in Libya would be propagandizing the ignorant members of their audience.
Regardless, I always seem to expect that non-Western news outlet might have a bit more integrity and honesty but I am continually disappointed.
The reality of the situation in Libya is ugly and every day that goes by it looks more like it is turning into another Iraq or Afghanistan.
The West seems to have a knack for turning people against themselves based on imaginary divisions of skin color, national origin or religious sect.
In Libya it is an especially dangerous situation because it is quite obvious by now that much of the rebel forces have been successfully convinced that black people are automatically Gaddafi mercenaries, even though this is completely untrue.
One must wonder who is directing these operations on the ground and perpetuating these myths. Could it be the many Anglo-American Special Forces troops that are admittedly on the ground in Arab disguises?
One cannot say that this is occuring with any amount of certainty, but one can say, based on historical precedent that this is likely the case. Take, for instance, in 2005 when undercover British soldiers were arrested by Iraqi police for allegedly murdering an Iraqi policeman. This is just one of many examples of similar events occurring in Iraq and elsewhere to raise tensions and destabilize the region.
While there is currently no evidence that proves foreign agents are behind inciting this racist violence, one can safely say that based on the past it would be hard to imagine that Western forces are not encouraging such actions.
The British news organization the Independent has published an article today that revealed some of the instances of this tragic race-based violence in Libya.
One man named Ahmed Bin Sabri told the Independent as he pulled back a tent flap, "Come and see. These are blacks, Africans, hired by Gaddafi, mercenaries."
Speaking of the dead bodies put on display by Bin Sabri, the Independent aptly points out, "Why had an injured man receiving treatment been executed?"
Bin Sabri merely shrugged in response and the Independent writes, "It was seemingly incomprehensible to him that anything wrong had been done."
This lack of understanding seems to be widespread among the Libyan rebels and their supporters across the world. It seems as if the rebels can do no wrong and when they are guilty of crimes against humanity they are merely advised to restrain themselves.
Why are the rebels not treated with the same hostility that Gaddafi and his forces were regarded with? Why is NATO not bombing rebels now?
If they actually had any intention of following the United Nations resolution that allows them to be there which mandates the protection of Libyan civilians, they would be attacking the rebels now.
But, of course, they are not. They will not, as the rebels have already made it clear that they will serve their Western masters that have allowed them to come to power through the establishment of a private bank and their sales of oil.
Interestingly, the Independent article still paints a somewhat biased picture of the aftermath of the "revolution" in Libya.
In Gaddafi's latest broadcast he warned that the people of Tripoli would be targeted by revolutionaries and that women would be raped in their homes. The Independent calls these "unsubstantiated, as are similar claims by his official apologist, Moussa Ibrahim."
I think that this is a little bit too early to make such generalizations. We have indeed seen that the Libyan rebels are targeting the people of Tripoli, so how exactly are these claims unsubstantiated?
In the next paragraph they claim that Gaddafi "has repeatedly unleashed appalling violence on its own people."
Actually, these claims are just as unsubstantiated as Gaddafi's, but since this is a Western media outlet one wouldn't expect them to point that out, I guess.
However, one must give them credit for pointing out that "the mounting number of deaths of men from sub-Saharan Africa at the hands of the rebels – lynchings in many cases – raises disturbing questions about the opposition administration, the Transitional National Council (TNC) taking over as Libya's government, and about western backing for it."
This is an important passage because the West has indeed openly supported the non-democratically declared Libyan government without hesitation.
Other parts of the world, on the other hand, have not been so quick to endorse the murderous band of criminals affiliated with al Qaeda that the media lovingly calls the rebels.
Take the African Union, for example. They refused to recognize the Transitional Council until the violence ceased. The aforementioned segment on Al Jazeera included the rebel spokesman excoriating the AU for their prudent "wait and see" approach.
This shouldn't be surprising as the rebels are attempting to draw together as much support as possible before the world begins to realize that their forces are committing and have committed war crimes throughout the uprising.
Tripoli is not the only city that has been marred by racist violence at the hands of rebel forces in Libya.
Amnesty International has reported that similar acts of brutality have been committed in the coastal city of Zawiyah. They have reported that black Sub-Saharan African migrant workers have been killed there just as they have throughout Libya since the uprising started.
The rebel attempts at explaining why they have been summarily executing black people who they suspect to be mercenaries are laughable at best.
When the Independent posed this question, "if the men had been killed in action, why did they have their hands tied behind their back?" A rebel fighter from Misrata named Mushab Abdullah said, "Maybe they were injured, and they had to be brought to this hospital and the handcuffs were to stop them from attacking. And then something went wrong."
The rebels are clearly lacking guidance and sound decision-making skills. Just look at the case of Ahmed Safar Warfalla, a man accused of spreading Gaddafi propaganda. He told the Independent, "They accuse me of a crime, but this is what I did" […] taking out a copy of the Koran from his pocket and pointing it to the sky. "Allah and Libya," he shouted. "They have Nato technology? This is Arab, Muslim technology. We shall not be defeated."
I was unaware that the Koran was Gaddafi propaganda but apparently even the rebel militia realized that this claim was a bit farfetched and allegedly decided to let Warfalla go free, because, "the man is mad".
To be fair, Amnesty International has also reported that pro-Gaddafi forces have killed detainees at two camps in Tripoli where 160 prisoners attempted to flee. Amnesty International says that they have "uncovered evidence" of this and that 23 prisoners were able to flee successfully.
A bunker in Muammar Gaddafi's hometown of Sirte came under fire from cruise missiles launched by RAF Tornado GR4 bombers, about which a rebel spokesman said, "Maybe the mercenaries there will run away."
Again, the rebels seem to hold on to the delusion that there is no way a single Libyan could actually support Gaddafi and thus the only people still loyal to the now-underground leader are mercenaries. This is far from the truth and has been proven as such time and time again.
Even the Washington Post admitted that some of the deaths in Tripoli do not seem like normal battlefield deaths.
They report, "not all of them looked like ordinary battlefield deaths." Speaking of the dead bodies left in the wake of the attack on Gaddafi's Bab al-Aziziyah compound in Tripoli. "Two dead men lay face down on the grass, their hands bound behind their backs with plastic cuffs."
I'm not sure how that could be anything other than a summary execution but I'm sure a rebel could come up with some legitimate explanation about how "something happened."
The Amnesty International researcher for Libya, Diana Eltahawy told the Washington Post that many of the Sub-Saharan African detainees in Zawiyah were migrant workers who were "taken at gunpoint from their homes, workplaces and the street on account of their skin color".
The Washington Post claims that the civilian leadership of the rebel forces are attempting to stop their forces from committing "revenge attacks" but this is just silly seeing as they continue unabated and have no sign of ending any time soon.
The fact that the attacks are largely based on skin color does not bode well, as it is not as if one day their skin color will change and they can go back to business as usual.
All of this racially based hatred among rebels is not going to go away on its own. The hypocritical treatment of these murders is just another point in case proving that NATO and the West have no interest in protecting civilians but instead are interested in regime change and putting stooges in power who will serve their Western masters like Gaddafi would not.
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figganigga
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mimi nimeshawambia wazee wa pick up waje kufanya dolia airport ya Tanzania siku wachezaji wa aljeria watakapokuja kucheza na Taifa star lazima wakamate mtoto mmojawapo wa gadaffi.akiwakimbiwa wamuwahi nyumbani kwa membe.mia
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Libya's interim leaders have given pro-Gaddafi forces until Saturday to surrender or face military force.
Mustafa Abdul Jalil, who leads the National Transitional Council (NTC), said the ultimatum applied to loyalists of Col Muammar Gaddafi in his hometown of Sirte and in other towns.
The announcement came after Col Gaddafi's wife and three of his adult children fled to neighbouring Algeria.
Algeria has defended the move, which the NTC called an "act of aggression".
Col Gaddafi's own whereabouts are unknown - rumours have variously placed him in Sirte, in regime-controlled Bani Walid south-east of Tripoli, and in the capital itself.
The anti-Gaddafi forces are trying to overcome pockets of resistance by loyalists, and preparing to advance on Sirte.
Speaking at a news conference in Benghazi, Mr Jalil said that if there was no "peaceful indication" by Saturday that Gaddafi-loyalists intended to surrender, "we will decide this manner militarily".
"We do not wish to do so but we cannot wait longer," he said.
The NTC's military chief, Col Ahmed Omar Bani, said: "Zero hour is quickly approaching... So far we have been given no indication of a peaceful surrender."
UK Foreign Secretary William Hague welcomed the deadline, saying: "I think it's the right thing to do, to say to the forces loyal to the remnants of the Gaddafi regime: here is the opportunity to lay down your arms, to consider your situation."
Mr Hague also said the UN Sanctions Committee had agreed to its request to unfreeze 1.86bn ($1.55bn; £950m) in Libyan dinar bank notes held in the UK. He said the money would "help address urgent humanitarian needs".
Mr Jalil said he had spoken to Nato officials and that the NTC had decided no foreign troops were needed in Libya to maintain security.
"We are betting on our youths and we are certain our bet will pay off," he said.
But Mr Jalil warned that Col Gaddafi was "not finished yet".
"The danger that is threatening the revolution and the Libyan people still exists. Gaddafi has support and partisans" inside and outside Libya, he said.
Another military commander on the NTC, Col Hisham Buhagiar, told Reuters news agency that 50,000 people were now thought to have been killed since the start of the uprising six months ago.
Nato 'committed'The anti-Gaddafi forces made an attempt to reach Sirte last week but were fought back by loyalist troops. On Monday, fighters coming from Benghazi in the east captured the small town of Nofilia, on the road to Sirte.
The BBC's Jon Leyne in Benghazi says the anti-Gaddafi forces have mainly been negotiating with tribal leaders both in Sirte and the other two main remaining Gaddafi strongholds of Bani Walid and Sabha, deep in the Sahara desert region.
SOURCE: BBCNEWS
Mustafa Abdul Jalil, who leads the National Transitional Council (NTC), said the ultimatum applied to loyalists of Col Muammar Gaddafi in his hometown of Sirte and in other towns.
The announcement came after Col Gaddafi's wife and three of his adult children fled to neighbouring Algeria.
Algeria has defended the move, which the NTC called an "act of aggression".
Col Gaddafi's own whereabouts are unknown - rumours have variously placed him in Sirte, in regime-controlled Bani Walid south-east of Tripoli, and in the capital itself.
The anti-Gaddafi forces are trying to overcome pockets of resistance by loyalists, and preparing to advance on Sirte.
Speaking at a news conference in Benghazi, Mr Jalil said that if there was no "peaceful indication" by Saturday that Gaddafi-loyalists intended to surrender, "we will decide this manner militarily".
"We do not wish to do so but we cannot wait longer," he said.
The NTC's military chief, Col Ahmed Omar Bani, said: "Zero hour is quickly approaching... So far we have been given no indication of a peaceful surrender."
UK Foreign Secretary William Hague welcomed the deadline, saying: "I think it's the right thing to do, to say to the forces loyal to the remnants of the Gaddafi regime: here is the opportunity to lay down your arms, to consider your situation."
Mr Hague also said the UN Sanctions Committee had agreed to its request to unfreeze 1.86bn ($1.55bn; £950m) in Libyan dinar bank notes held in the UK. He said the money would "help address urgent humanitarian needs".
Mr Jalil said he had spoken to Nato officials and that the NTC had decided no foreign troops were needed in Libya to maintain security.
"We are betting on our youths and we are certain our bet will pay off," he said.
But Mr Jalil warned that Col Gaddafi was "not finished yet".
"The danger that is threatening the revolution and the Libyan people still exists. Gaddafi has support and partisans" inside and outside Libya, he said.
Another military commander on the NTC, Col Hisham Buhagiar, told Reuters news agency that 50,000 people were now thought to have been killed since the start of the uprising six months ago.
Nato 'committed'The anti-Gaddafi forces made an attempt to reach Sirte last week but were fought back by loyalist troops. On Monday, fighters coming from Benghazi in the east captured the small town of Nofilia, on the road to Sirte.
The BBC's Jon Leyne in Benghazi says the anti-Gaddafi forces have mainly been negotiating with tribal leaders both in Sirte and the other two main remaining Gaddafi strongholds of Bani Walid and Sabha, deep in the Sahara desert region.
SOURCE: BBCNEWS
Askari Kanzu
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ICC warrant against Khamis?
Meanwhile, Khamis Gaddafi, another of Gaddafi's sons, whose military unit is accused of killing dozens of detainees in Tripoli, may be placed on the international war crimes court's most-wanted list, the prosecutor told the Reuters news agency on Monday.
The Hague-based International Criminal Court [ICC] has already approved warrants for the arrest of Gaddafi, his son Saif al-Islam, and Libyan intelligence chief Abdullah al-Senussi on charges of crimes against humanity.
Luis Moreno-Ocampo, the ICC prosecutor, said he may also apply for an arrest warrant for Khamis, after Human Rights Watch said members of the Khamis Brigade, a force commanded by him, appeared to have carried out summary executions of detainees whose bodies were found in a warehouse in Tripoli.
"We know Khamis should also be prosecuted because he was the commander of the brigade that was more active on some of the crimes," Moreno-Ocampo said.
Moreno-Ocampo said a UN Human Rights Council commission would conduct further investigations on the ground in Libya soon and that he would base his decisions on the results.
Al Jazeera
Last Modified: 30 Aug 2011 21:39
Meanwhile, Khamis Gaddafi, another of Gaddafi's sons, whose military unit is accused of killing dozens of detainees in Tripoli, may be placed on the international war crimes court's most-wanted list, the prosecutor told the Reuters news agency on Monday.
The Hague-based International Criminal Court [ICC] has already approved warrants for the arrest of Gaddafi, his son Saif al-Islam, and Libyan intelligence chief Abdullah al-Senussi on charges of crimes against humanity.
Luis Moreno-Ocampo, the ICC prosecutor, said he may also apply for an arrest warrant for Khamis, after Human Rights Watch said members of the Khamis Brigade, a force commanded by him, appeared to have carried out summary executions of detainees whose bodies were found in a warehouse in Tripoli.
"We know Khamis should also be prosecuted because he was the commander of the brigade that was more active on some of the crimes," Moreno-Ocampo said.
Moreno-Ocampo said a UN Human Rights Council commission would conduct further investigations on the ground in Libya soon and that he would base his decisions on the results.
Al Jazeera
Last Modified: 30 Aug 2011 21:39
nngu007
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[h=1]Gaddafi's girl executioner: Nisreen, 19, admits shooting 11 rebel prisoners, now she is shackled to hospital bed awaiting justice[/h]By RICHARD PENDLEBURY and VANESSA ALLEN
Last updated at 6:42 PM on 29th August 2011
First you see her large brown eyes and rosebud lips, framed by a pink headscarf. Then you notice that her bruised feet are secured by manacles to the foot of her bed.
Nisreen Mansour al Forgani is a pretty 19-year-old. She was also a serial killer for Colonel Muammar Gaddafi.
Yesterday, in a heavily guarded room at the Matiga military hospital in Tripoli, she admitted to the Mail that she had executed as many as 11 suspected rebel prisoners in the days leading up to the fall of the Libyan capital last week. Shot at point-blank range, in cold blood.
Shackled: Nisreen Mansour al Forgani lies in a hospital bed after admitting executing as many as 11 rebel prisoners
Under guard: Nisreen claims she was forced to kill people for Gaddafi after being sexually assaulted by his commanders
Tears: Nisreen eventually escaped by jumping from the window of the second-floor room where she carried out the killings
I killed the first one, then they would bring another one up to the room, Nisreen said. He would see the body on the floor and look shocked. Then I would shoot him too. I did it from about a metre away.
One of thousands of girls and young women recruited by Gaddafis all-female militias, Nisreen is now a prisoner of the rebels and in fear of her life. Yet despite her killings, it is impossible not to feel pity for her.
Nisreen claims and her doctors and even some of the rebel fighters believe her that she had to shoot under great duress. She also says that she was sexually abused by senior military figures, one of whom was the commander of the elite Tripoli brigade tasked with protecting Gaddafi himself. I told them [the rebels] what I did, she said. They are angry. I do not know what will happen to me now.
So how did this slight young woman, who used to live with her mother in Tripoli and enjoy dance music, come to have so much blood on her hands?
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Her parents split up when she was a child, and Nisreen did not like her fathers new wife so she went to live with her mother.
One of her mothers friends, a woman called Fatma al Dreby, was the leader of the female branch of Gaddafis Popular Guards militia and this, it seems, was the fateful factor.
Last year, Nisreen left college intending to look after her mother, who was sick with cancer. Instead, Fatma recruited her for the Popular Guards.
The family protested, but Fatma would not be swayed. Nisreen was young and pretty just the type they wanted. There were about 1,000 girls from all over Libya, Nisreen recalled of their training camp in Tripoli. I was there with a girl called Faten, whom I knew from college.
'They told me if I didn't kill, it would be me who died': Nisreen, centre, with her female militia
The recruits were instructed in the use of firearms, and Nisreen was trained as a sniper.
By the start of the uprising in February, the two girls were being housed by the militia in a mobile home near Tripoli airport. Their duties mainly involved manning checkpoints around the city.
Their unit was based at the HQ of 77 Brigade, next door to Gaddafis Bab Al-Azizya residential complex, but Nisreen says she saw the dictator only once, when his convoy swept past her checkpoint.
Fatma was a zealous supporter of the regime, says Nisreen. She told me that if my mother said something against Gaddafi that I should immediately kill her. If I said anything about the leader that she did not like I would be beaten and locked in my room. She also told us that if the rebels came, they would rape us.
It was a shameless piece of manipulation from the militia leader who, according to Nisreen, pimped her female recruits for the sexual gratification of her senior male colleagues.
Fatma had an office at the 77 Brigade base and there was a room with a bed next door. One day, she summoned me and put me in that room by myself. Mansour Dau, who was the commander of 77 Brigade, then came in and shut the door.
He raped her.
After it was over Fatma told me not to tell anyone, not even my parents, says Nisreen.
Every time Mansour came to the HQ he was given another girl by Fatma. She was given presents in return.
Nisreen said she was later raped by Mansours son Ibrahim, also an officer in the brigade, as well as another military relative of the commander, called Noury Saad.
It happened to many girls she knew. And as the Gaddafi regime began to crumble, the abuses increased.
Bleak: The military building where Nisreen was repeatedly raped and forced to carry executions
Tragically, her friend Faten was killed in bizarre and brutal circumstances as the rebels closed in on Tripoli in the past month.
The two girls were on a checkpoint near the Bab Al-Azizya complex when Colonel Gaddafis son and heir, Saif Al-Islam, arrived with an entourage. Saif was wearing a bulletproof vest, helmet and aviator sunglasses, Nisreen recalls. Faten went to have a closer look, and Saifs bodyguard shot her in the head. She had simply got too close.
The spiral of horror gathered pace. There is a saying in Libya: Cut my throat but do not get a girl to shoot me in the back. One suspects that the deployment of Nisreen as an executioner of traitors was meant as a final insult to the condemned.
Nisreen explains that she was taken to a building in the Bosleem district of Tripoli, put in a room and armed with an AK 47 rifle. There, a black woman soldier in a blue uniform kept guard and prevented her from escaping.
The rebel prisoners were tied up and kept under a tree outside, she says. Then one by one they were brought up to the room. There were three Gaddafi volunteers with guns also in the room.
They told me that if I didnt kill the prisoners then they would kill me.
She begins to cry. Some of the prisoners looked like they had already been beaten. Others were beaten up in front of me in the room. They did not speak. I do not remember their faces ... most of them were about the same age as me.
She wipes her eyes and stares at a weeping wound on her elbow.
Shelled: Part of the building was destroyed during the violence which has rocked Libya for six months
I tried not to kill them ... I turned and shot without looking. But if I hesitated, one of the soldiers would flick off the safety catch of his own rifle and point it at me.
I killed ten, perhaps 11, over three days, she says, slowly and almost disbelievingly, counting the murders on her fingers. I dont know what they had done.
She wails: I never harmed anyone before the uprising began. I used to have a normal life.
Nisreen eventually escaped by jumping from the window of the second-floor room where she carried out the killings. Despite being injured in the fall and then hit by a reversing pick-up truck, she managed to limp out of the compound.
I was found by some anti-Gaddafi people who took me to a mosque where I was given water, she said. Then I was brought here.
Two fighters are on guard outside her door at the hospital. We are here to protect her as much as to prevent her escaping, one says.
A woman in a white coat, presumably a doctor, enters the room. She begins to talk seriously to Nisreen, who bursts into tears. In fact, the woman is a volunteer medical orderly who has come to give the girl sniper a piece of her mind.
How could your conscience let you kill all these people, just for Gaddafi? she exclaims.
Nisreen is a victim too. Her brother told me that the family tried to get her out of the 77 Brigade base, but were threatened by the soldiers.
All the girls in the Popular Guards were raped. The men sexually assault the female recruits and then train them in weapons.
Dr Rabia Gajum, a Libyan child psychologist
She leaves the room and a rebel fighter, no older than Nisreen and with a rifle slung over his shoulder, replaces her. He leans on the end of the bed and addresses the girl.
Do you pray? the fighter asks her. I used to, she whispers.
What time of day did you kill them?
In the mornings.
Her tears begin to roll again. He turns to us and asks: If a girl killed 11 people in your country, what would you do?
The scene has become an unpleasant freak show.
We ask her if any of her family know she is here or whats happened to her. No, she replies. She gives us the phone numbers of relatives still in Tripoli. We call them and, finally, her stepmother answers.
Regime: Nisreen says she had to shoot under great duress and was abused by those acting in Gaddafi's name
I am at the Matiga hospital, Nisreen pleads with her. Please, please come and get me. She winces and struggles against her ankle restraints.
Keep quiet about it all. Dont tell them anything, we hear the woman at the end of the line telling her stepdaughter.
The rebel fighter shrugs with disgust. There were many girls who did things like this, he says.
Eventually the stepmother and Nisreens brother turn up. But they stay only briefly and do not seem surprised to see the armed guard on the teenagers door.
Nisreen is being looked after by Dr Rabia Gajum, a Libyan child psychologist who has volunteered to work at the Matiga hospital. She voices immense sympathy for the teenager.
Nisreen is a victim too, she says. Her brother told me that the family tried to get her out of the 77 Brigade base, but were threatened by the soldiers.
All the girls in the Popular Guards were raped. The men sexually assault the female recruits and then train them in weapons. We have had four women in here as patients, all trained as snipers like Nisreen.
We give them medical treatment. After that it is a matter for the new government about what to do with them. She added: Nisreen has pelvic injuries and severe bruising. She needs long bed-rest and psychological counselling.
What we shall tell her parents I dont know. Her mother is receiving treatment for throat cancer in Tunisia. Her father is sick and in a wheelchair and has no idea what has happened. It would be too much of a shock for him.
Rebel fighters: Rebels visit the hospital where Nisreen is staying and ask her how she could kill for Gaddafi
However much Nisreen has blurred her account through shame, fear or a desire to explain her actions, she appears to personify the corruption and brutalisation Libya has experienced under Gaddafi.
Personal documents that we found at the 77 Brigade barracks prove she was there and underpin much of the detail she gave us.
But the only evidence of the atrocities in which she took part come from her own lips, for the district of Bosleem is still not yet secured by the rebels.
Her eyes were beautiful but completely blank, whether from shock, painkillers or both. But at least she is alive.
Across the city, the hospital in the Abu Salim district was a place of horror this weekend. Scores of corpses abandoned after the fighting around the Bab Al-Azizya complex were decaying in the sun.
A pick-up truck appeared, loaded with dozens of gas masks and rubber boots, looted from a police station.
Wearing a respirator was the only way one could bear to walk among the dead.
Next to slippery, bloated and fly-infested bodies lying on trolleys by the entrance lay a litter of the deads ID cards.
Two of them revealed that 21-year-old Mahaamat Cherif, from Chad, and Saidou Massatchi, 31, from Niger, would not be going home.
Unlike Nisreen, they cannot even try to explain why they fought for Gaddafi.
Injured: Tripoli's hospitals are filling up with the wounded, like thirteen-year-old Msalem Bashir, whose father keeps vigil at the Cental Hospital
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2031197/Gaddafis-girl-executioner-Nisreen-19-admits-shooting-11-rebel-prisoners.html#ixzz1WYKSWBb
Last updated at 6:42 PM on 29th August 2011
First you see her large brown eyes and rosebud lips, framed by a pink headscarf. Then you notice that her bruised feet are secured by manacles to the foot of her bed.
Nisreen Mansour al Forgani is a pretty 19-year-old. She was also a serial killer for Colonel Muammar Gaddafi.
Yesterday, in a heavily guarded room at the Matiga military hospital in Tripoli, she admitted to the Mail that she had executed as many as 11 suspected rebel prisoners in the days leading up to the fall of the Libyan capital last week. Shot at point-blank range, in cold blood.
I killed the first one, then they would bring another one up to the room, Nisreen said. He would see the body on the floor and look shocked. Then I would shoot him too. I did it from about a metre away.
One of thousands of girls and young women recruited by Gaddafis all-female militias, Nisreen is now a prisoner of the rebels and in fear of her life. Yet despite her killings, it is impossible not to feel pity for her.
Nisreen claims and her doctors and even some of the rebel fighters believe her that she had to shoot under great duress. She also says that she was sexually abused by senior military figures, one of whom was the commander of the elite Tripoli brigade tasked with protecting Gaddafi himself. I told them [the rebels] what I did, she said. They are angry. I do not know what will happen to me now.
So how did this slight young woman, who used to live with her mother in Tripoli and enjoy dance music, come to have so much blood on her hands?
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Her parents split up when she was a child, and Nisreen did not like her fathers new wife so she went to live with her mother.
One of her mothers friends, a woman called Fatma al Dreby, was the leader of the female branch of Gaddafis Popular Guards militia and this, it seems, was the fateful factor.
Last year, Nisreen left college intending to look after her mother, who was sick with cancer. Instead, Fatma recruited her for the Popular Guards.
The family protested, but Fatma would not be swayed. Nisreen was young and pretty just the type they wanted. There were about 1,000 girls from all over Libya, Nisreen recalled of their training camp in Tripoli. I was there with a girl called Faten, whom I knew from college.
The recruits were instructed in the use of firearms, and Nisreen was trained as a sniper.
By the start of the uprising in February, the two girls were being housed by the militia in a mobile home near Tripoli airport. Their duties mainly involved manning checkpoints around the city.
Their unit was based at the HQ of 77 Brigade, next door to Gaddafis Bab Al-Azizya residential complex, but Nisreen says she saw the dictator only once, when his convoy swept past her checkpoint.
Fatma was a zealous supporter of the regime, says Nisreen. She told me that if my mother said something against Gaddafi that I should immediately kill her. If I said anything about the leader that she did not like I would be beaten and locked in my room. She also told us that if the rebels came, they would rape us.
It was a shameless piece of manipulation from the militia leader who, according to Nisreen, pimped her female recruits for the sexual gratification of her senior male colleagues.
Fatma had an office at the 77 Brigade base and there was a room with a bed next door. One day, she summoned me and put me in that room by myself. Mansour Dau, who was the commander of 77 Brigade, then came in and shut the door.
He raped her.
After it was over Fatma told me not to tell anyone, not even my parents, says Nisreen.
Every time Mansour came to the HQ he was given another girl by Fatma. She was given presents in return.
Nisreen said she was later raped by Mansours son Ibrahim, also an officer in the brigade, as well as another military relative of the commander, called Noury Saad.
It happened to many girls she knew. And as the Gaddafi regime began to crumble, the abuses increased.
Tragically, her friend Faten was killed in bizarre and brutal circumstances as the rebels closed in on Tripoli in the past month.
The two girls were on a checkpoint near the Bab Al-Azizya complex when Colonel Gaddafis son and heir, Saif Al-Islam, arrived with an entourage. Saif was wearing a bulletproof vest, helmet and aviator sunglasses, Nisreen recalls. Faten went to have a closer look, and Saifs bodyguard shot her in the head. She had simply got too close.
The spiral of horror gathered pace. There is a saying in Libya: Cut my throat but do not get a girl to shoot me in the back. One suspects that the deployment of Nisreen as an executioner of traitors was meant as a final insult to the condemned.
Nisreen explains that she was taken to a building in the Bosleem district of Tripoli, put in a room and armed with an AK 47 rifle. There, a black woman soldier in a blue uniform kept guard and prevented her from escaping.
The rebel prisoners were tied up and kept under a tree outside, she says. Then one by one they were brought up to the room. There were three Gaddafi volunteers with guns also in the room.
They told me that if I didnt kill the prisoners then they would kill me.
She begins to cry. Some of the prisoners looked like they had already been beaten. Others were beaten up in front of me in the room. They did not speak. I do not remember their faces ... most of them were about the same age as me.
She wipes her eyes and stares at a weeping wound on her elbow.
I tried not to kill them ... I turned and shot without looking. But if I hesitated, one of the soldiers would flick off the safety catch of his own rifle and point it at me.
I killed ten, perhaps 11, over three days, she says, slowly and almost disbelievingly, counting the murders on her fingers. I dont know what they had done.
She wails: I never harmed anyone before the uprising began. I used to have a normal life.
Nisreen eventually escaped by jumping from the window of the second-floor room where she carried out the killings. Despite being injured in the fall and then hit by a reversing pick-up truck, she managed to limp out of the compound.
I was found by some anti-Gaddafi people who took me to a mosque where I was given water, she said. Then I was brought here.
Two fighters are on guard outside her door at the hospital. We are here to protect her as much as to prevent her escaping, one says.
A woman in a white coat, presumably a doctor, enters the room. She begins to talk seriously to Nisreen, who bursts into tears. In fact, the woman is a volunteer medical orderly who has come to give the girl sniper a piece of her mind.
How could your conscience let you kill all these people, just for Gaddafi? she exclaims.
Nisreen is a victim too. Her brother told me that the family tried to get her out of the 77 Brigade base, but were threatened by the soldiers.
All the girls in the Popular Guards were raped. The men sexually assault the female recruits and then train them in weapons.
Dr Rabia Gajum, a Libyan child psychologist
She leaves the room and a rebel fighter, no older than Nisreen and with a rifle slung over his shoulder, replaces her. He leans on the end of the bed and addresses the girl.
Do you pray? the fighter asks her. I used to, she whispers.
What time of day did you kill them?
In the mornings.
Her tears begin to roll again. He turns to us and asks: If a girl killed 11 people in your country, what would you do?
The scene has become an unpleasant freak show.
We ask her if any of her family know she is here or whats happened to her. No, she replies. She gives us the phone numbers of relatives still in Tripoli. We call them and, finally, her stepmother answers.
I am at the Matiga hospital, Nisreen pleads with her. Please, please come and get me. She winces and struggles against her ankle restraints.
Keep quiet about it all. Dont tell them anything, we hear the woman at the end of the line telling her stepdaughter.
The rebel fighter shrugs with disgust. There were many girls who did things like this, he says.
Eventually the stepmother and Nisreens brother turn up. But they stay only briefly and do not seem surprised to see the armed guard on the teenagers door.
Nisreen is being looked after by Dr Rabia Gajum, a Libyan child psychologist who has volunteered to work at the Matiga hospital. She voices immense sympathy for the teenager.
Nisreen is a victim too, she says. Her brother told me that the family tried to get her out of the 77 Brigade base, but were threatened by the soldiers.
All the girls in the Popular Guards were raped. The men sexually assault the female recruits and then train them in weapons. We have had four women in here as patients, all trained as snipers like Nisreen.
We give them medical treatment. After that it is a matter for the new government about what to do with them. She added: Nisreen has pelvic injuries and severe bruising. She needs long bed-rest and psychological counselling.
What we shall tell her parents I dont know. Her mother is receiving treatment for throat cancer in Tunisia. Her father is sick and in a wheelchair and has no idea what has happened. It would be too much of a shock for him.
However much Nisreen has blurred her account through shame, fear or a desire to explain her actions, she appears to personify the corruption and brutalisation Libya has experienced under Gaddafi.
Personal documents that we found at the 77 Brigade barracks prove she was there and underpin much of the detail she gave us.
But the only evidence of the atrocities in which she took part come from her own lips, for the district of Bosleem is still not yet secured by the rebels.
Her eyes were beautiful but completely blank, whether from shock, painkillers or both. But at least she is alive.
Across the city, the hospital in the Abu Salim district was a place of horror this weekend. Scores of corpses abandoned after the fighting around the Bab Al-Azizya complex were decaying in the sun.
A pick-up truck appeared, loaded with dozens of gas masks and rubber boots, looted from a police station.
Wearing a respirator was the only way one could bear to walk among the dead.
Next to slippery, bloated and fly-infested bodies lying on trolleys by the entrance lay a litter of the deads ID cards.
Two of them revealed that 21-year-old Mahaamat Cherif, from Chad, and Saidou Massatchi, 31, from Niger, would not be going home.
Unlike Nisreen, they cannot even try to explain why they fought for Gaddafi.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2031197/Gaddafis-girl-executioner-Nisreen-19-admits-shooting-11-rebel-prisoners.html#ixzz1WYKSWBb
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Tarishi hauawi. Habari ndio hio!
Gaddafi's son 'ready to surrender'
Rebel military leader of Tripoli says Gaddafi's son al Saddi called him two hours ago and asked if he can surrender.
Last Modified: 30 Aug 2011 21:39
The rebel military leader of Tripoli, Abdelhakim Belhaj, has said that one of Gaddafi's son al Saddi called him two hours ago and asked if he can surrender.
Al Jazzera's James Bays, reporting from Tripoli said: We asked him [Abdelhakim Belhaj] about the military situation, remaining members of the Gaddafi family, and he said that he believes one of Gaddafi's sons, al Saddi, is preparing to surrender.
"According to Belhaj, Saddi doesn't want to leave Libya, he wants to talk to the national council and negotiate his surrender. He thinks he knows the whereabouts of Saddi Gaddafi from the phone call. Also says he believes some senior figures of the government are now ready to surrender, such as the former prime minister.
"Belhaj made a point of saying that any of those who do surrender will be treated properly, and court cases will be held to international norms. Belhaj thought that Muammar Gaddafi is less likely to surrender, but would be treated fairly if he did. He would be held in custody with proper human rights. The rest of the family are taking temporary refuge in Algeria before they go to some third country.
Al Jazeera
Warning: Rebels have misinformed before!
Gaddafi's son 'ready to surrender'
Rebel military leader of Tripoli says Gaddafi's son al Saddi called him two hours ago and asked if he can surrender.
Last Modified: 30 Aug 2011 21:39
The rebel military leader of Tripoli, Abdelhakim Belhaj, has said that one of Gaddafi's son al Saddi called him two hours ago and asked if he can surrender.
Al Jazzera's James Bays, reporting from Tripoli said: We asked him [Abdelhakim Belhaj] about the military situation, remaining members of the Gaddafi family, and he said that he believes one of Gaddafi's sons, al Saddi, is preparing to surrender.
"According to Belhaj, Saddi doesn't want to leave Libya, he wants to talk to the national council and negotiate his surrender. He thinks he knows the whereabouts of Saddi Gaddafi from the phone call. Also says he believes some senior figures of the government are now ready to surrender, such as the former prime minister.
"Belhaj made a point of saying that any of those who do surrender will be treated properly, and court cases will be held to international norms. Belhaj thought that Muammar Gaddafi is less likely to surrender, but would be treated fairly if he did. He would be held in custody with proper human rights. The rest of the family are taking temporary refuge in Algeria before they go to some third country.
Al Jazeera
Warning: Rebels have misinformed before!
Huyu Abdelhakim Belhaj kulingana na link hii hapa chini ni kuwa ni marehemu au amefufuka tena? Kama Khamis Gaddafi?
Au kuna watu wenye majina yanayofanana? na vyeo pia? Kuna picha ya huyo kamanda na ubavuni kuna maiti, au ndio photoshop,!!???
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wakawaokote na kuwapa porojo hizo vibaraka wenzao.
Damu ya Gadaffi sio ya kujisalimisha.
Mjomba Askari Kanzu kama unakumbuka Udey na Qusey walivyouawa basi taraji na hawa nao watakufa mithiri ya mashujaa wale wenzao....
Damu ya Gadaffi sio ya kujisalimisha.
Mjomba Askari Kanzu kama unakumbuka Udey na Qusey walivyouawa basi taraji na hawa nao watakufa mithiri ya mashujaa wale wenzao....
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mbwa koko hao hawana mamlaka ya kumuwekea Deadline kiongozi wa Libya.
Hao wasubiri kuburuzwa na hao waliowatia utambi....
Hao wasubiri kuburuzwa na hao waliowatia utambi....
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A week after rebels broke into Col. Muammar el-Qaddafis former stronghold, much of its territory remains divided into fiefs, each controlled by quasi-independent brigades representing different geographic areas of the country. And the spray paint they use to mark their territory tells the story of a looming leadership crisis in the capital, Tripoli.
Full article and Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/31/world/africa/31tripoli.html
Hapa naona NATO and United States have won the war..while powerless Africans looking around helpless! Bob Marley kwenye Top Ranking aliimba
They don't want us to unite 'Cause all they want us to do is Keep on fussing and fighting They don't want to see us come together All they want us to do is Keep on killing one anotherNa kwenye 'Zimbabwe,' aliwahi sema
To divide and rule could only tear us apart;
In everyman chest, mm - there beats a heart.
Ingawa kuna usemi usemao mwenye nguvu mpishe..lakini ni unafiki kuendelea kucheka na hawa jamaa..wakimaliza Libya watakuja hadi nyumbani kwako, hadi chooni na kutafuta chupi yako...
Gadafi kama binadamu na kiongozi yeyote alifanya mazuri na mabaya lakini NATO na USA hawawezi kupima uzito wa mazuri na mabaya. Wangeacha walibya wenyewe wapime na kuamua...na hata kama wakitaka wampige mawe..ni wao wenyewe..
Hawa Rebels ni mbwa koko..bila NATO na USA hamna kitu..
Full article and Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/31/world/africa/31tripoli.html
Hapa naona NATO and United States have won the war..while powerless Africans looking around helpless! Bob Marley kwenye Top Ranking aliimba
They don't want us to unite 'Cause all they want us to do is Keep on fussing and fighting They don't want to see us come together All they want us to do is Keep on killing one anotherNa kwenye 'Zimbabwe,' aliwahi sema
To divide and rule could only tear us apart;
In everyman chest, mm - there beats a heart.
Ingawa kuna usemi usemao mwenye nguvu mpishe..lakini ni unafiki kuendelea kucheka na hawa jamaa..wakimaliza Libya watakuja hadi nyumbani kwako, hadi chooni na kutafuta chupi yako...
Gadafi kama binadamu na kiongozi yeyote alifanya mazuri na mabaya lakini NATO na USA hawawezi kupima uzito wa mazuri na mabaya. Wangeacha walibya wenyewe wapime na kuamua...na hata kama wakitaka wampige mawe..ni wao wenyewe..
Hawa Rebels ni mbwa koko..bila NATO na USA hamna kitu..
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Libya's interim leadership has rejected the idea of deploying any kind of international military force, the UN envoy to the country has said.
Ian Martin said the UN had considered the deployment of military observers.
Earlier, the chairman of the National Transitional Council (NTC) said the country did not need outside help to maintain security
BBC
Ian Martin said the UN had considered the deployment of military observers.
Earlier, the chairman of the National Transitional Council (NTC) said the country did not need outside help to maintain security
BBC
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A senior National Transitional Council official in Libya has told Al Jazeera that Saadi Gaddafi, the third son of deposed leader Muammar Gaddafi, is willing to give himself up.
Abdelhakim Belhaj, the NTC's military leader in Tripoli, said on Wednesday that Saddi called him and asked if he can surrender.
In an exclusive interview, Belhaj said the revolutionaries know for sure where some of the regime leaders are, including unconfirmed reports on where Gaddafi is.
"Gaddafi is now fleeing - and we have a good idea where he is," Ali Tarhouni, a senior NTC minister said earlier, without elaborating. "We don't have any doubt that we will catch him."
There has been speculation that Gaddafi is seeking refuge in Sirte or one of the other remaining regime strongholds, among them the towns of Bani Walid or Sabha.
Al Jazeera's James Bays, reporting from Tripoli said: "We asked him [Belhaj] about the military situation, remaining members of the Gaddafi family, and he said that he believes one of Gaddafi's sons, Saadi, is preparing to surrender.
"According to Belhaj, Saddi doesn't want to leave Libya, he wants to talk to the national council and negotiate his surrender. He thinks he knows the whereabouts of Saddi Gaddafi from the phone call. Also says he believes some senior figures of the government are now ready to surrender, such as the former prime minister.
"Belhaj made a point of saying that any of those who do surrender will be treated properly, and court cases will be held to international norms. Belhaj thought that Muammar Gaddafi is less likely to surrender, but would be treated fairly if he did. He would be held in custody with proper human rights."
Gaddafi family members flee
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Authorities there confirmed on Tuesday that Gaddafi's second wife Safia, his daughter Aisha, and his sons Muhammad and Hannibal were in Algeria and had been granted permission to enter based on "humanitarian grounds".
According to AFP news agency, Aisha gave birth to a girl while in Algeria.
Mahmoud Shammam, information minister in Libya's rebel government, told the Associated Press news agency that he considered Algeria's harbouring of Hannibal an act of aggression.
"I cannot confirm it, but I can comment that, especially for Hannibal, if he fled to Algiers and the Algerian authorities allowed him to do that, we'll consider this as an aggressive act against the Libyan people's wish," he said.
In all, Gaddafi has eight biological children, a daughter and seven sons.
Meanwhile, Khamis Gaddafi, another of Gaddafi's sons, whose military unit is accused of killing dozens of detainees in Tripoli, may be placed on the international war crimes court's most-wanted list, the prosecutor told the Reuters news agency on Monday.
The Hague-based International Criminal Court [ICC] has already approved warrants for the arrest of Gaddafi, his son Saif al-Islam, and Libyan intelligence chief Abdullah al-Senussi on charges of crimes against humanity.
Luis Moreno-Ocampo, the ICC prosecutor, said he may also apply for an arrest warrant for Khamis, after Human Rights Watch said members of the Khamis Brigade, a force commanded by him, appeared to have carried out summary executions of detainees whose bodies were found in a warehouse in Tripoli.
"We know Khamis should also be prosecuted because he was the commander of the brigade that was more active on some of the crimes," Moreno-Ocampo said.
Moreno-Ocampo said a UN Human Rights Council commission would conduct further investigations on the ground in Libya soon and that he would base his decisions on the results.
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Forces loyal to deposed Libyan ruler Muammar Gaddafi, holed up in the city of Sirte, have been given a four-day deadline to surrender or face military action.
Mustafa Abdel Jalil, chairman of the rebels' National Transitional Council, said on Tuesday that forces loyal to Gaddafi, including those in the town of Sirte, have until Saturday to surrender or face a military assault.
"By Saturday, if there are no peaceful indications for implementing this we will decide this manner militarily," he said. "We do not wish to do so but we cannot wait longer."
Libyan rebel fighters have been massing outside Gaddafi's hometown of Sirte, preparing for an assault against his loyalists if negotiations with tribal elders fail to peacefully transfer control of the town over to the new government.
Fighters were organising their units to advance towards Sirte from both Ras Lanuf and Bin Jawad in the east and from Tripoli and Misrata to the west.
"We will move further, but we will not enter Sirte now because it is not secured so far - there are ongoing
negotiations between tribe elders in Sirte and rebel leaders and we are receiving orders from our field
commanders and we are waiting for their commands," rebel fighter Taleb al-Karaty told the Reuters news agency.
Ultimate push
Al Jazeera's Andrew Simmons, reporting from town of Kubris Isdada about 100km west of Sirte, said Libyan fighters faced artillery fire in the town of Alvishka when they pushed forward towards the Gaddafi hometown.
"After a small engagement they retreated, as forces loyal to Gaddafi had put up human shields around them," he said.
The Al Jazeera correspondent said, "Right now the fighters are engaged in scouting, probing and intelligence gathering in preparations for the ultimate push."
"There is a large unseen army with many tanks having been deployed in the desert and a whole range of armoury positioned around," he said.
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"Electricity and water supply has been cut, as a result the humanitarian situation in Sirte and surrounding towns is bad."
Senior rebel commanders said they estimated that they would come up against about 1,000 pro-Gaddafi soldiers if negotiations for the town's surrender fail.
In Sirte, forces loyal to Gaddafi urged people to fight or be killed, complicating efforts to arrange a peaceful surrender of the city, according to NTC officials.
Three days ago a message from Gaddafi was broadcast in Sirte, urging people to fight to save themselves.
While the deposed leader's whereabouts are still unknown, the city is a strategic and symbolic prize for Libya's rebel government as it tightens its grip on the vast North African country.
Another Al Jazeera correspondent Hoda Abdul Hamid, reporting from village of Nawfaliya about 130km east of Sirte, said "I think there is a hope of a peaceful solution but realistically everybody says there won't be any. It will be another battle."
"Since this morning, there is a steady stream of tanks moving towards Sirte.
"Despite the negotiations for peaceful solution, several brigades have been massing to south of Sirte in anticipation of the final attack."
Gaddafi family members flee
The surrender deadline came after reports that some members of Gaddafi's family had fled the country and gone to Algeria.
Authorities there confirmed on Tuesday that Gaddafi's second wife Safia, his daughter Aisha, and his sons Muhammad and Hannibal were in Algeria and had been granted permission to enter based on "humanitarian grounds".
According to AFP news agency, Aisha gave birth to a girl while in Algeria.
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Mahmoud Shammam, information minister in Libya's rebel government, told the Associated Press news agency that he considered Algeria's harbouring of Hannibal an act of aggression.
"I cannot confirm it, but I can comment that, especially for Hannibal, if he fled to Algiers and the Algerian authorities allowed him to do that, we'll consider this as an aggressive act against the Libyan people's wish," he said.
Meanwhile, in a big financial boost to the NTC, the UN agreed on Tuesday to unfreeze about $1.55bn worth of Libyan currency held in the UK, which can be used for humanitarian needs and to pay salaries of key public sector workers.
The Libyan Dinar notes were frozen by Britain after the UN Security Council imposed sanctions on toppled leader Muammar Gaddafi's regime in March.
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